RE: _spin_count Revealed

2002-09-19 Thread Cary Millsap

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Rich
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I doubt the _counter_corriolis_effect parameter would do much:

http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadCoriolis.html

:)

Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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 -Original Message-
 From: Grant Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 7:18 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: _spin_count Revealed
 
 
 You're forgetting about the _counter_corriolis_effect 
 parameter, introduced
 in 9i.  If you set this to true, then you need to flip you're 
 setting for
 _spin_count.  I've also found it useful to buy hard drives 
 with synchromesh
 to make gear changes smoother :-)
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RE: _spin_count Revealed

2002-09-18 Thread Jesse, Rich

I doubt the _counter_corriolis_effect parameter would do much:

http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadCoriolis.html

:)

Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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 -Original Message-
 From: Grant Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 7:18 PM
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 Subject: RE: _spin_count Revealed
 
 
 You're forgetting about the _counter_corriolis_effect 
 parameter, introduced
 in 9i.  If you set this to true, then you need to flip you're 
 setting for
 _spin_count.  I've also found it useful to buy hard drives 
 with synchromesh
 to make gear changes smoother :-)
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Re: _spin_count Revealed

2002-09-18 Thread Tim Gorman

Such a drag to detract from a good story using facts...

...which is how the whole discussion got started...

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 I doubt the _counter_corriolis_effect parameter would do much:

 http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadCoriolis.html

 :)

 Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI
USA


  -Original Message-
  From: Grant Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 7:18 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RE: _spin_count Revealed
 
 
  You're forgetting about the _counter_corriolis_effect
  parameter, introduced
  in 9i.  If you set this to true, then you need to flip you're
  setting for
  _spin_count.  I've also found it useful to buy hard drives
  with synchromesh
  to make gear changes smoother :-)
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RE: _spin_count Revealed

2002-09-18 Thread Jesse, Rich

All I'm saying is that the parameter wouldn't have nearly as much effect as
the _centripedal_acceleration parameter, which as we all know keeps the bits
from flying off of HDs, especially the 15K spin.  I believe it's
undocumented now, since setting it to false caused corruption from bit
loss.

(how's that?)

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 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 12:38 PM
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 Subject: Re: _spin_count Revealed
 
 
 Such a drag to detract from a good story using facts...
 
 ...which is how the whole discussion got started...
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:18 AM
 
 
  I doubt the _counter_corriolis_effect parameter would do much:
 
  http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadCoriolis.html
 
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RE: _spin_count Revealed

2002-09-18 Thread Inka Bezdziecka

Well ... 
although you are  correct, you forgot to mention that there is a hidden  table sys. 
fence$, leftover from the archaic time, which (table, not time) has a column drift#  
(Boolean) and one row. Default value is FALSE  and unless changed manually to TRUE, 
the_centripedal_acceleration parameter works only up to 1K spin. 

In addition one has to 
alter session set nls_territory= western 
before updating fence$.

inka

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All I'm saying is that the parameter wouldn't have nearly as much effect as
the _centripedal_acceleration parameter, which as we all know keeps the bits
from flying off of HDs, especially the 15K spin.  I believe it's
undocumented now, since setting it to false caused corruption from bit
loss.

(how's that?)

Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 12:38 PM
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 Subject: Re: _spin_count Revealed
 
 
 Such a drag to detract from a good story using facts...
 
 ...which is how the whole discussion got started...
 
 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:18 AM
 
 
  I doubt the _counter_corriolis_effect parameter would do much:
 
  http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadCoriolis.html
 
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RE: _spin_count Revealed

2002-09-17 Thread Grant Allen

Fink, Dan[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 I have learned that my information was incorrect. A negative value for
 spin count is not to be used for reversing transactions. It is to be used
 for those systems in the southern hemisphere to insure that the disks spin
 counter-clockwise.
  
 I sincerely apologize for this mistake and hope the list will forgive me.
  
 Dan
 
Dan,

You're forgetting about the _counter_corriolis_effect parameter, introduced
in 9i.  If you set this to true, then you need to flip you're setting for
_spin_count.  I've also found it useful to buy hard drives with synchromesh
to make gear changes smoother :-)

Ciao
Fuzzy
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