RE: an article comparing Oracle to other databases
Well, there are plenty of objective detailed comparisons on www.oracle.com! :)) Pete Controlling developers is like herding cats. Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that! Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -Original Message- Boivin, Patrice J Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 3:04 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/32200.html I have yet to see an objective, detailed comparison of Oracle, DB2 and SQL Server. From a technical (i.e. what can it do) as well as from an organisational (i.e. how is it to manage) point of view. Even 3rd party think tanks seem to walk on egg shells when evaluating software from major vendors, possibly to avoid alienating any of them. Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Pete Sharman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases
And since we all know that memory accesses are ~14k times faster than disk, these benchmarks just drive the point home. Of course you talk about raw memory access vs. raw disk access here... When you have several memory protection and disk caching mechanisms these figures will change.. Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases
Perhaps you missed the sarcasm in my response. On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 03:14, Tanel Poder wrote: And since we all know that memory accesses are ~14k times faster than disk, these benchmarks just drive the point home. Of course you talk about raw memory access vs. raw disk access here... When you have several memory protection and disk caching mechanisms these figures will change.. Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases
Well, all of those benchmarks could be summarized in a single sentence: Oracle is the best, ite missa est. On 11/28/2003 12:19:25 PM, Jared Still wrote: Perhaps you missed the sarcasm in my response. On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 03:14, Tanel Poder wrote: And since we all know that memory accesses are ~14k times faster than disk, these benchmarks just drive the point home. Of course you talk about raw memory access vs. raw disk access here... When you have several memory protection and disk caching mechanisms these figures will change.. Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Wang Trading LLC and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: an article comparing Oracle to other databases
Patrice - By technical, do you mean a feature comparison or a performance comparison. You might want to research the eWeek benchmark for the three a couple of years ago. They made extensive efforts to produce an objective performance analysis, but even at that they had another article later about the things they had overlooked. These are really complex, sophisticated products that are used in really complex, sophisticated ways at a wide variety of sites, so I think it is very difficult to say anything that applies to many situations. On a perverse note, it is interesting to note that almost every deficiency can be viewed from a different perspective. SQL Server has a reputation for costing less, which means many corporations view it as cheap. Oracle has a reputation of being harder to manage, which may mean that Oracle DBA salaries are a little higher. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 10:04 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/32200.html I have yet to see an objective, detailed comparison of Oracle, DB2 and SQL Server. From a technical (i.e. what can it do) as well as from an organisational (i.e. how is it to manage) point of view. Even 3rd party think tanks seem to walk on egg shells when evaluating software from major vendors, possibly to avoid alienating any of them. Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases
where do they get these 'speed' indicators from? the article says that ibm is faster than oracle? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:04 AM http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/32200.html I have yet to see an objective, detailed comparison of Oracle, DB2 and SQL Server. From a technical (i.e. what can it do) as well as from an organisational (i.e. how is it to manage) point of view. Even 3rd party think tanks seem to walk on egg shells when evaluating software from major vendors, possibly to avoid alienating any of them. Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases
So is MySQL, supposedly. These things are usually very subjective, and rarely objective. Jared On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 08:49, Ryan wrote: where do they get these 'speed' indicators from? the article says that ibm is faster than oracle? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:04 AM http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/32200.html I have yet to see an objective, detailed comparison of Oracle, DB2 and SQL Server. From a technical (i.e. what can it do) as well as from an organisational (i.e. how is it to manage) point of view. Even 3rd party think tanks seem to walk on egg shells when evaluating software from major vendors, possibly to avoid alienating any of them. Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases
i keep hearing that mysql is fast, but have never seen one benchmark. people just assume its true. In what sense? what conditions? Around 400 BC Aristotle stated that heavy objects fall faster than light objects. It wasnt until the 15th century that someone actually tried to test it... they just assumed it was true. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 1:24 PM So is MySQL, supposedly. These things are usually very subjective, and rarely objective. Jared On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 08:49, Ryan wrote: where do they get these 'speed' indicators from? the article says that ibm is faster than oracle? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:04 AM http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/32200.html I have yet to see an objective, detailed comparison of Oracle, DB2 and SQL Server. From a technical (i.e. what can it do) as well as from an organisational (i.e. how is it to manage) point of view. Even 3rd party think tanks seem to walk on egg shells when evaluating software from major vendors, possibly to avoid alienating any of them. Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases
Speed is relative. In the early 20th century Henry Ford built a fast car. It had an ~1100 cubic inch engine, and would go over 100 MPH. No seatbelts, no roll cage, open gearing ( oil and grease everywhere), no roof, and nearly useless brakes. You could go fast, but would you want to? Jared On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 12:04, Ryan wrote: i keep hearing that mysql is fast, but have never seen one benchmark. people just assume its true. In what sense? what conditions? Around 400 BC Aristotle stated that heavy objects fall faster than light objects. It wasnt until the 15th century that someone actually tried to test it... they just assumed it was true. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 1:24 PM So is MySQL, supposedly. These things are usually very subjective, and rarely objective. Jared On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 08:49, Ryan wrote: where do they get these 'speed' indicators from? the article says that ibm is faster than oracle? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:04 AM http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/32200.html I have yet to see an objective, detailed comparison of Oracle, DB2 and SQL Server. From a technical (i.e. what can it do) as well as from an organisational (i.e. how is it to manage) point of view. Even 3rd party think tanks seem to walk on egg shells when evaluating software from major vendors, possibly to avoid alienating any of them. Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for
Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases
Jared, It is no longer MySQL the hot product. You have 9,000 times faster than Oracle http://www.prevayler.org/wiki.jsp?topic=ScalabilityTestResults got there from a link on Fabian Pascal's site. You can guess he is unimpressed ;-) ... You can get any answer indeed. Just ask the question which matches the answer you want. Stephane Faroult Jared Still wrote: So is MySQL, supposedly. These things are usually very subjective, and rarely objective. Jared On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 08:49, Ryan wrote: where do they get these 'speed' indicators from? the article says that ibm is faster than oracle? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:04 AM http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/32200.html I have yet to see an objective, detailed comparison of Oracle, DB2 and SQL Server. From a technical (i.e. what can it do) as well as from an organisational (i.e. how is it to manage) point of view. Even 3rd party think tanks seem to walk on egg shells when evaluating software from major vendors, possibly to avoid alienating any of them. Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: an article comparing Oracle to other databases
I tried MySQL at home... there don't seem to be any user-friendly tools for it. I like user-friendly. grin I am curious about SleepyCat as a replacement for Access, could I use that with OpenOffice I wonder. Patrice. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 4:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L i keep hearing that mysql is fast, but have never seen one benchmark. people just assume its true. In what sense? what conditions? Around 400 BC Aristotle stated that heavy objects fall faster than light objects. It wasnt until the 15th century that someone actually tried to test it... they just assumed it was true. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 1:24 PM So is MySQL, supposedly. These things are usually very subjective, and rarely objective. Jared On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 08:49, Ryan wrote: where do they get these 'speed' indicators from? the article says that ibm is faster than oracle? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:04 AM http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/32200.html I have yet to see an objective, detailed comparison of Oracle, DB2 and SQL Server. From a technical (i.e. what can it do) as well as from an organisational (i.e. how is it to manage) point of view. Even 3rd party think tanks seem to walk on egg shells when evaluating software from major vendors, possibly to avoid alienating any of them. Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases
Yes, I saw that when it first appeared on /. Seems some bright programmers are trying to dispense with databases altogether. Keep it in memory and write it to disk occasionally for backup. And since we all know that memory accesses are ~14k times faster than disk, these benchmarks just drive the point home. On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 12:39, Stephane Faroult wrote: Jared, It is no longer MySQL the hot product. You have 9,000 times faster than Oracle http://www.prevayler.org/wiki.jsp?topic=ScalabilityTestResults got there from a link on Fabian Pascal's site. You can guess he is unimpressed ;-) ... You can get any answer indeed. Just ask the question which matches the answer you want. Stephane Faroult Jared Still wrote: So is MySQL, supposedly. These things are usually very subjective, and rarely objective. Jared On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 08:49, Ryan wrote: where do they get these 'speed' indicators from? the article says that ibm is faster than oracle? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:04 AM http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/32200.html I have yet to see an objective, detailed comparison of Oracle, DB2 and SQL Server. From a technical (i.e. what can it do) as well as from an organisational (i.e. how is it to manage) point of view. Even 3rd party think tanks seem to walk on egg shells when evaluating software from major vendors, possibly to avoid alienating any of them. Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
