RE: backspace in Oracle.
No doubt Novell at the time was more stable than NT at the time. But some of these stories, which can start off as My Novell box seems more stable than that NT 3.51 SP 1 box mutate into internet apocrypha faster than you can spell telephone. Before you know it, it's a heartlung machine, coded in assembler, running on a Novell beta release cross compiled to the Kaypro, which has been up, even through tornadoes, for 22 years. Meanwhile, the NT box crashed on boot up, then corrupted the disk, sold the house, and slept with my wife. I always ask for details. Two reasons. The first is to take a litmus test for veracity. The other is (assuming veracity) to learn something about how to make systems stable. shrug || -Original Message- || From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 5:48 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: backspace in Oracle. || || || that would be if the stupid (HELP) data janitor remembers to do || VREPAIR once every other month or so. sometime the stupid data || janitor forgets and only does it once a year (with no other || downtime). || || in other words, except for occasional/normal piddly maintenance || (which is not otherwise required to keep the system up), netware3x || will not typically experience the same thing as the (supposedly) || infamous NT reboots. || || ??? || || ep || || On 30 May 2001, at 13:10, Mohan, Ross wrote: || || Date sent: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:10:37 -0800 || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || I am all for NLMs, DLMs, and MM. || || But, if you let me bounce most any NT box || once a month for, say, a DEFRAG, I'll be || able to keep it up for one helluva long || time too. || || Ross NMN Mohan || || || -Original Message- || || From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 4:03 PM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || Subject: RE: backspace in Oracle. || || ... || || || Only reason for downtime is running VREPAIR (rough || equivalent of || || scandisk) about once every other month, and also when || the startup || || files need maintenance (usually related to changed || parameters on || || .nlms loaded, versoin upgrades, etc) and a bounce is || required. also || || we recently had to put in a new UPS battery, which || required a down. || || ... || || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Eric D. Pierce || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: backspace in Oracle.
I have built Novell boxes that have 2100+ days of uptime :) Now that is stability that I have yet to see even unix have. Granted it is only Novell 3.12. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 8:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to Microsoft for an examination (must be something wrong with it). Regards, Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I don't think he should be removed from the list. I sure appreciate that Walt! I've heard there are other operating systems out there besides Linux and Solaris. Is this true? A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day stability test. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: backspace in Oracle.
There isn't any known bug under NT. But there are many memory leaks and poor drivers, that tend to lead to early rebooting. In my experience. I think the worst problem with NT is not the os but the drivers, even though Even though I hate NT, for the money, it works well. But if you try to get i to do too much, then you are asking for trouble. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 11:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yeah, funny isn't it? I had my Sparc Station 5 up for just a few days short of a year once. During that time I added/delete/built many different pieces of open source software and ran 2 oracle databases. It crashed due to a Solaris bug that hits sometime after 248 days of uptime. Who knows, maybe there's a bug like that on NT, but how will anyone ever find out? Jared On Sunday 27 May 2001 19:30, Peter McLarty wrote: Apparently this quirky behaviour comes from running one and one only application on a system. I have heard rumours of this occurring on other sites when the use a server for a single task. So any rumours you have heard about its capability as a multitasking OS and being able to pass the 30 day test now they would be interesting. Hell one of our Domain controller can't handle being a print server Peter -Original Message- Bruce (CALBBAY) Sent: Monday, 28 May 2001 10:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to Microsoft for an examination (must be something wrong with it). Regards, Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I don't think he should be removed from the list. I sure appreciate that Walt! I've heard there are other operating systems out there besides Linux and Solaris. Is this true? A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day stability test. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: backspace in Oracle.
Uptime yes... BUT was there anything running on them as complex as a database? Just joking. I have used Novell in the past ver 2.something and it served the purpose very well. At my current work location we use 4.12 and it is okay at best. Upgrading to 5.1 this year before we install a financial package that won't run on Novell with an Oracle database.(Novell and Oracle fell out of bed). ROR mª¿ªm -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: backspace in Oracle.
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:01:22AM -0800, Christopher Spence wrote: I have built Novell boxes that have 2100+ days of uptime :) Now that is stability that I have yet to see even unix have. Granted it is only Novell 3.12. Novell uptime: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/5/18265.html === Ray Stell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (540) 231-4109 KE4TJC28^D -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ray Stell INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: backspace in Oracle.
Ya, but I can keep a NT box for a long time to, if I don't touch it. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:01 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have built Novell boxes that have 2100+ days of uptime :) Now that is stability that I have yet to see even unix have. Granted it is only Novell 3.12. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 8:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to Microsoft for an examination (must be something wrong with it). Regards, Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I don't think he should be removed from the list. I sure appreciate that Walt! I've heard there are other operating systems out there besides Linux and Solaris. Is this true? A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day stability test. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: backspace in Oracle.
Six years? No downtime in any way? That would be...uh.unusual. I am sure the details are fascinating...do tell. || -Original Message- || From: Christopher Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:01 AM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: backspace in Oracle. || || || I have built Novell boxes that have 2100+ days of uptime :) || || Now that is stability that I have yet to see even unix have. || Granted it is only Novell 3.12. || || || Walking on water and developing software from a || specification are easy if || both are frozen. || || Christopher R. Spence || Oracle DBA || Fuelspot || || || || -Original Message- || [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 8:10 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Jared, || || I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. || || Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to Microsoft for an || examination (must be something wrong with it). || || Regards, || Bruce || || -Original Message- || Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: || Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I || don't think he || should || be removed from the list. || || I sure appreciate that Walt! || || I've heard there are other operating systems out there || besides Linux and || Solaris. Is this true? || || A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have || something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day || stability test. || || Jared || || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Jared Still || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Christopher Spence || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: backspace in Oracle.
Hey, NT could be up for 2100+ days, I mean, by the time you get there it won't even be able to play solitaire, but it will be up. -Original Message- Spence Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:01 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have built Novell boxes that have 2100+ days of uptime :) Now that is stability that I have yet to see even unix have. Granted it is only Novell 3.12. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 8:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to Microsoft for an examination (must be something wrong with it). Regards, Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I don't think he should be removed from the list. I sure appreciate that Walt! I've heard there are other operating systems out there besides Linux and Solaris. Is this true? A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day stability test. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: backspace in Oracle.
Kim, Did you hear the one about the NT box that ran for SEVEN YEARS, playing solitaire? Yea, me neither, but it's a good story, just like the Novell one. :) || -Original Message- || From: Kimberly Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:36 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: backspace in Oracle. || || || Ya, but I can keep a NT box for a long time to, if I don't touch it. || || || -Original Message- || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:01 AM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || I have built Novell boxes that have 2100+ days of uptime :) || || Now that is stability that I have yet to see even unix have. || Granted it is only Novell 3.12. || || || Walking on water and developing software from a || specification are easy if || both are frozen. || || Christopher R. Spence || Oracle DBA || Fuelspot || || || || -Original Message- || [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 8:10 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Jared, || || I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. || || Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to Microsoft for an || examination (must be something wrong with it). || || Regards, || Bruce || || -Original Message- || Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: || Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I || don't think he || should || be removed from the list. || || I sure appreciate that Walt! || || I've heard there are other operating systems out there || besides Linux and || Solaris. Is this true? || || A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have || something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day || stability test. || || Jared || || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Jared Still || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Christopher Spence || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Kimberly Smith || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
RE: backspace in Oracle.
Oh come on Ross, it wasn't running solitaire for seven years, it would have been brought to it's knees in a month if solitaire was open! -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:26 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Kim, Did you hear the one about the NT box that ran for SEVEN YEARS, playing solitaire? Yea, me neither, but it's a good story, just like the Novell one. :) || -Original Message- || From: Kimberly Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:36 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: backspace in Oracle. || || || Ya, but I can keep a NT box for a long time to, if I don't touch it. || || || -Original Message- || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:01 AM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || I have built Novell boxes that have 2100+ days of uptime :) || || Now that is stability that I have yet to see even unix have. || Granted it is only Novell 3.12. || || || Walking on water and developing software from a || specification are easy if || both are frozen. || || Christopher R. Spence || Oracle DBA || Fuelspot || || || || -Original Message- || [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 8:10 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Jared, || || I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. || || Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to Microsoft for an || examination (must be something wrong with it). || || Regards, || Bruce || || -Original Message- || Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: || Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I || don't think he || should || be removed from the list. || || I sure appreciate that Walt! || || I've heard there are other operating systems out there || besides Linux and || Solaris. Is this true? || || A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have || something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day || stability test. || || Jared || || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Jared Still || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Christopher Spence || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Kimberly Smith || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross
RE: backspace in Oracle.
I personally vouch for the machine running Novell for 6 years, I built it. It was taken down about 3 months ago. It happened to be a server use to store drivers and os builds to zap down to machines as they are being built at PC manufacture. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:26 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Kim, Did you hear the one about the NT box that ran for SEVEN YEARS, playing solitaire? Yea, me neither, but it's a good story, just like the Novell one. :) || -Original Message- || From: Kimberly Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:36 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: backspace in Oracle. || || || Ya, but I can keep a NT box for a long time to, if I don't touch it. || || || -Original Message- || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:01 AM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || I have built Novell boxes that have 2100+ days of uptime :) || || Now that is stability that I have yet to see even unix have. || Granted it is only Novell 3.12. || || || Walking on water and developing software from a || specification are easy if || both are frozen. || || Christopher R. Spence || Oracle DBA || Fuelspot || || || || -Original Message- || [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 8:10 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Jared, || || I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. || || Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to Microsoft for an || examination (must be something wrong with it). || || Regards, || Bruce || || -Original Message- || Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: || Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I || don't think he || should || be removed from the list. || || I sure appreciate that Walt! || || I've heard there are other operating systems out there || besides Linux and || Solaris. Is this true? || || A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have || something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day || stability test. || || Jared || || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Jared Still || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Christopher Spence || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Kimberly Smith || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru
RE: backspace in Oracle.
I am all for NLMs, DLMs, and MM. But, if you let me bounce most any NT box once a month for, say, a DEFRAG, I'll be able to keep it up for one helluva long time too. Ross NMN Mohan || -Original Message- || From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 4:03 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: backspace in Oracle. || || || Netware 3.12 (or 3.2, which is basically 3.12 with Y2K patches) is || amazingly robust/stable. We still have one running a (unsupported) || legacy Oracle 7.3 app with 66mhz 486/DOS clients w/ 8Mb RAM!!! || (SQL*Net v2 lite). || || Only reason for downtime is running VREPAIR (rough equivalent of || scandisk) about once every other month, and also when the startup || files need maintenance (usually related to changed parameters on || .nlms loaded, versoin upgrades, etc) and a bounce is required. also || we recently had to put in a new UPS battery, which required a down. || || It is amazing how good (well engineered) no frills || software can be. || unfortunately the .NLM ended up being sort of the Pinto of the || NOS industry. the fall of Novell is one of the great sad stories of || the industry. corruption of marketing mentality. || || -- || || On 30 May 2001, at 6:56, Mohan, Ross wrote: || || Date sent: Wed, 30 May 2001 06:56:48 -0800 || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Six years? No downtime in any way? That would be...uh.unusual. || || I am sure the details are fascinating...do tell. || || || -Original Message- || || From: Christopher Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:01 AM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || Subject: RE: backspace in Oracle. || || || || || || I have built Novell boxes that have 2100+ days of uptime :) || || || || Now that is stability that I have yet to see even unix have. || || Granted it is only Novell 3.12. || || || ... || || || -- || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || -- || Author: Eric D. Pierce || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || Mailing Lists || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may || also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). || -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: backspace in Oracle.
It kept trying to win. It couldn't || -Original Message- || From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 4:31 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: backspace in Oracle. || || || Oh come on Ross, it wasn't running solitaire for seven || years, it would || have been brought to it's knees in a month if solitaire was open! || || -Original Message- || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:26 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Kim, || || Did you hear the one about the NT box || that ran for SEVEN YEARS, playing solitaire? || || Yea, me neither, but it's a good story, just || like the Novell one. || || :) || || || || -Original Message- || || From: Kimberly Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:36 PM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || Subject: RE: backspace in Oracle. || || || || || || Ya, but I can keep a NT box for a long time to, if I || don't touch it. || || || || || || -Original Message- || || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:01 AM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || || || || I have built Novell boxes that have 2100+ days of uptime :) || || || || Now that is stability that I have yet to see even unix have. || || Granted it is only Novell 3.12. || || || || || || Walking on water and developing software from a || || specification are easy if || || both are frozen. || || || || Christopher R. Spence || || Oracle DBA || || Fuelspot || || || || || || || || -Original Message- || || [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 8:10 PM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || || || || Jared, || || || || I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. || || || || Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to || Microsoft for an || || examination (must be something wrong with it). || || || || Regards, || || Bruce || || || || -Original Message- || || Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || || || || On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: || || Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I || || don't think he || || should || || be removed from the list. || || || || I sure appreciate that Walt! || || || || I've heard there are other operating systems out there || || besides Linux and || || Solaris. Is this true? || || || || A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that || claims to have || || something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day || || stability test. || || || || Jared || || || || || || -- || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || -- || || Author: Jared Still || || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || (858) 538-5051 || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || Mailing Lists || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || 'ListGuru') and in || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || from). You may || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || -- || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || -- || || Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) || || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || (858) 538-5051 || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || Mailing Lists || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || 'ListGuru') and in || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || from). You may || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || -- || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || -- || || Author: Christopher Spence || || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || (858) 538-5051 || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || Mailing Lists || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || 'ListGuru') and in || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || from). You may || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || -- || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http
RE: backspace in Oracle.
compaq Pentium 133Mhz 128Mb, 6 raid disks if I remember correctly. two disk failures over the life of the box if memory serves correct. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 5:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Now *that's* details. So, what was the OS version? Hardware? avg/peak user load? Let me get this right: there was ZERO DOWNTIME in six years? my o my || -Original Message- || From: Christopher Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 4:47 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: backspace in Oracle. || || || I personally vouch for the machine running Novell for 6 || years, I built it. || It was taken down about 3 months ago. It happened to be a || server use to || store drivers and os builds to zap down to machines as they || are being built || at PC manufacture. || || Walking on water and developing software from a || specification are easy if || both are frozen. || || Christopher R. Spence || Oracle DBA || Fuelspot || || || || -Original Message- || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:26 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Kim, || || Did you hear the one about the NT box || that ran for SEVEN YEARS, playing solitaire? || || Yea, me neither, but it's a good story, just || like the Novell one. || || :) || || || || -Original Message- || || From: Kimberly Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:36 PM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || Subject: RE: backspace in Oracle. || || || || || || Ya, but I can keep a NT box for a long time to, if I || don't touch it. || || || || || || -Original Message- || || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:01 AM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || || || || I have built Novell boxes that have 2100+ days of uptime :) || || || || Now that is stability that I have yet to see even unix have. || || Granted it is only Novell 3.12. || || || || || || Walking on water and developing software from a || || specification are easy if || || both are frozen. || || || || Christopher R. Spence || || Oracle DBA || || Fuelspot || || || || || || || || -Original Message- || || [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 8:10 PM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || || || || Jared, || || || || I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. || || || || Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to || Microsoft for an || || examination (must be something wrong with it). || || || || Regards, || || Bruce || || || || -Original Message- || || Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || || || || On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: || || Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I || || don't think he || || should || || be removed from the list. || || || || I sure appreciate that Walt! || || || || I've heard there are other operating systems out there || || besides Linux and || || Solaris. Is this true? || || || || A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that || claims to have || || something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day || || stability test. || || || || Jared || || || || || || -- || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || -- || || Author: Jared Still || || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || (858) 538-5051 || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || Mailing Lists || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || 'ListGuru') and in || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || from). You may || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || -- || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || -- || || Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) || || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || (858) 538-5051 || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || Mailing Lists || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || 'ListGuru') and in || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || from). You may || || also send the HELP command for other information (like
RE: backspace in Oracle.
One thing for sure... it was not in CA !! Or was it ? - Kirti -Original Message- From: Mohan, Ross [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 4:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: backspace in Oracle. Now *that's* details. So, what was the OS version? Hardware? avg/peak user load? Let me get this right: there was ZERO DOWNTIME in six years? my o my || -Original Message- || From: Christopher Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 4:47 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: backspace in Oracle. || || || I personally vouch for the machine running Novell for 6 || years, I built it. || It was taken down about 3 months ago. It happened to be a || server use to || store drivers and os builds to zap down to machines as they || are being built || at PC manufacture. || || Walking on water and developing software from a || specification are easy if || both are frozen. || || Christopher R. Spence || Oracle DBA || Fuelspot || || || || -Original Message- || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:26 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || Kim, || || Did you hear the one about the NT box || that ran for SEVEN YEARS, playing solitaire? || || Yea, me neither, but it's a good story, just || like the Novell one. || || :) || || || || -Original Message- || || From: Kimberly Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:36 PM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || Subject: RE: backspace in Oracle. || || || || || || Ya, but I can keep a NT box for a long time to, if I || don't touch it. || || || || || || -Original Message- || || Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:01 AM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || || || || I have built Novell boxes that have 2100+ days of uptime :) || || || || Now that is stability that I have yet to see even unix have. || || Granted it is only Novell 3.12. || || || || || || Walking on water and developing software from a || || specification are easy if || || both are frozen. || || || || Christopher R. Spence || || Oracle DBA || || Fuelspot || || || || || || || || -Original Message- || || [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 8:10 PM || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || || || || Jared, || || || || I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. || || || || Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to || Microsoft for an || || examination (must be something wrong with it). || || || || Regards, || || Bruce || || || || -Original Message- || || Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 || || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || || || || || || On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: || || Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I || || don't think he || || should || || be removed from the list. || || || || I sure appreciate that Walt! || || || || I've heard there are other operating systems out there || || besides Linux and || || Solaris. Is this true? || || || || A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that || claims to have || || something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day || || stability test. || || || || Jared || || || || || || -- || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || -- || || Author: Jared Still || || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || (858) 538-5051 || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || Mailing Lists || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || 'ListGuru') and in || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || from). You may || || also send the HELP command for other information (like || subscribing). || || -- || || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com || || -- || || Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) || || INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || || || Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: || (858) 538-5051 || || San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / || || Mailing Lists || || || || || To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message || || to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of || 'ListGuru') and in || || the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L || || (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed || from). You may || || also send
RE: backspace in Oracle.
Jared, I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to Microsoft for an examination (must be something wrong with it). Regards, Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I don't think he should be removed from the list. I sure appreciate that Walt! I've heard there are other operating systems out there besides Linux and Solaris. Is this true? A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day stability test. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: backspace in Oracle.
Apparently this quirky behaviour comes from running one and one only application on a system. I have heard rumours of this occurring on other sites when the use a server for a single task. So any rumours you have heard about its capability as a multitasking OS and being able to pass the 30 day test now they would be interesting. Hell one of our Domain controller can't handle being a print server Peter -Original Message- Bruce (CALBBAY) Sent: Monday, 28 May 2001 10:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to Microsoft for an examination (must be something wrong with it). Regards, Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I don't think he should be removed from the list. I sure appreciate that Walt! I've heard there are other operating systems out there besides Linux and Solaris. Is this true? A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day stability test. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Peter McLarty INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: backspace in Oracle.
Isolated case like this have been reported, but seem to be more of an exception to the norm. I've worked on some NT boxes in the past, and they were nothing but trouble. Jared On Sunday 27 May 2001 17:10, Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) wrote: Jared, I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to Microsoft for an examination (must be something wrong with it). Regards, Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I don't think he should be removed from the list. I sure appreciate that Walt! I've heard there are other operating systems out there besides Linux and Solaris. Is this true? A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day stability test. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: backspace in Oracle.
Yeah, funny isn't it? I had my Sparc Station 5 up for just a few days short of a year once. During that time I added/delete/built many different pieces of open source software and ran 2 oracle databases. It crashed due to a Solaris bug that hits sometime after 248 days of uptime. Who knows, maybe there's a bug like that on NT, but how will anyone ever find out? Jared On Sunday 27 May 2001 19:30, Peter McLarty wrote: Apparently this quirky behaviour comes from running one and one only application on a system. I have heard rumours of this occurring on other sites when the use a server for a single task. So any rumours you have heard about its capability as a multitasking OS and being able to pass the 30 day test now they would be interesting. Hell one of our Domain controller can't handle being a print server Peter -Original Message- Bruce (CALBBAY) Sent: Monday, 28 May 2001 10:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to Microsoft for an examination (must be something wrong with it). Regards, Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I don't think he should be removed from the list. I sure appreciate that Walt! I've heard there are other operating systems out there besides Linux and Solaris. Is this true? A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day stability test. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: backspace in Oracle.
Jared, After searching on Oracle's website it does not mention the 248 bug as existing on NT. I searched for information on it because I will be there in around a week :-). (See my other thread for a slowdown that occurred on the weekend - possibly related to Oracle instance uptime of 100 days.) Peter is right - this server only runs Oracle (in addition to server management software). Though it also serves out forms and the Oracle runtime. Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Monday, 28 May 2001 1:11 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yeah, funny isn't it? I had my Sparc Station 5 up for just a few days short of a year once. During that time I added/delete/built many different pieces of open source software and ran 2 oracle databases. It crashed due to a Solaris bug that hits sometime after 248 days of uptime. Who knows, maybe there's a bug like that on NT, but how will anyone ever find out? Jared On Sunday 27 May 2001 19:30, Peter McLarty wrote: Apparently this quirky behaviour comes from running one and one only application on a system. I have heard rumours of this occurring on other sites when the use a server for a single task. So any rumours you have heard about its capability as a multitasking OS and being able to pass the 30 day test now they would be interesting. Hell one of our Domain controller can't handle being a print server Peter -Original Message- Bruce (CALBBAY) Sent: Monday, 28 May 2001 10:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to Microsoft for an examination (must be something wrong with it). Regards, Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I don't think he should be removed from the list. I sure appreciate that Walt! I've heard there are other operating systems out there besides Linux and Solaris. Is this true? A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day stability test. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: backspace in Oracle.
If you are in any way responsible for that uptime, you better put it on your resume. Jared On Sunday 27 May 2001 21:30, Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) wrote: Jared, After searching on Oracle's website it does not mention the 248 bug as existing on NT. I searched for information on it because I will be there in around a week :-). (See my other thread for a slowdown that occurred on the weekend - possibly related to Oracle instance uptime of 100 days.) Peter is right - this server only runs Oracle (in addition to server management software). Though it also serves out forms and the Oracle runtime. Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Monday, 28 May 2001 1:11 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yeah, funny isn't it? I had my Sparc Station 5 up for just a few days short of a year once. During that time I added/delete/built many different pieces of open source software and ran 2 oracle databases. It crashed due to a Solaris bug that hits sometime after 248 days of uptime. Who knows, maybe there's a bug like that on NT, but how will anyone ever find out? Jared On Sunday 27 May 2001 19:30, Peter McLarty wrote: Apparently this quirky behaviour comes from running one and one only application on a system. I have heard rumours of this occurring on other sites when the use a server for a single task. So any rumours you have heard about its capability as a multitasking OS and being able to pass the 30 day test now they would be interesting. Hell one of our Domain controller can't handle being a print server Peter -Original Message- Bruce (CALBBAY) Sent: Monday, 28 May 2001 10:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to Microsoft for an examination (must be something wrong with it). Regards, Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I don't think he should be removed from the list. I sure appreciate that Walt! I've heard there are other operating systems out there besides Linux and Solaris. Is this true? A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day stability test. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: backspace in Oracle.
Bruce, It's a generic bug (bug 1084273, note 118228.1) that appears to affect only Unix operating systems, most notably Solaris. I suspect that the NT architecture is different enough that it's not affected by this bug. Hopefully you'll have this figured out before another 100 days goes by, but I'd start gathering some bstat/estat or statspack reports now to use as a baseline for comparison. HTH, -- Anita --- Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jared, After searching on Oracle's website it does not mention the 248 bug as existing on NT. I searched for information on it because I will be there in around a week :-). (See my other thread for a slowdown that occurred on the weekend - possibly related to Oracle instance uptime of 100 days.) Peter is right - this server only runs Oracle (in addition to server management software). Though it also serves out forms and the Oracle runtime. Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Monday, 28 May 2001 1:11 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yeah, funny isn't it? I had my Sparc Station 5 up for just a few days short of a year once. During that time I added/delete/built many different pieces of open source software and ran 2 oracle databases. It crashed due to a Solaris bug that hits sometime after 248 days of uptime. Who knows, maybe there's a bug like that on NT, but how will anyone ever find out? Jared On Sunday 27 May 2001 19:30, Peter McLarty wrote: Apparently this quirky behaviour comes from running one and one only application on a system. I have heard rumours of this occurring on other sites when the use a server for a single task. So any rumours you have heard about its capability as a multitasking OS and being able to pass the 30 day test now they would be interesting. Hell one of our Domain controller can't handle being a print server Peter -Original Message- Bruce (CALBBAY) Sent: Monday, 28 May 2001 10:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, I have an NT 4 server up for 242 days. Someone where I work suggested it should be sent to Microsoft for an examination (must be something wrong with it). Regards, Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2001 12:16 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I don't think he should be removed from the list. I sure appreciate that Walt! I've heard there are other operating systems out there besides Linux and Solaris. Is this true? A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day stability test. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com --
Re: backspace in Oracle.
This message uses a character set that is not supported by the Internet Service. To view the original message content, open the attached message. If the text doesn't display correctly, save the attachment to disk, and then open it using a viewer that can display the original character set. message.txt Received: from corpws7-163.telergycorp.com ([10.10.7.163]) by tgcpmail01.telergycorp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id LTZQ0H1P; Fri, 25 May 2001 12:18:08 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 12:19:10 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) To: Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Fri, 25 May 2001,Ron Rogers scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -List, - I have created a test server using Linux 7.1 and Oracle 8.1.7.3 and it w= orks great. The major problem I am having is I am NOT a typist and make e= rrors at the SQL prompt. What do I set or define in the glogin to allow bac= kspace to work as a backspace in Oracle? It has been a while since I had th= e privilege of UNIX ( in any flavor) - Any info would be appreciated. -Thanks, -ROR m=AA=BF=AAm - - depends on your keyboard but in general: stty erase what ever your backspace key returns -- Bill Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, You gotta run like there's nobody watching, It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. ~~ From=20C:\*.* to shining C:\*.*
Re: backspace in Oracle.
stty erase ^H The ^H is your backspace key. Ron Rogers wrote: List, I have created a test server using Linux 7.1 and Oracle 8.1.7.3 and it works great. The major problem I am having is I am NOT a typist and make errors at the SQL prompt. What do I set or define in the glogin to allow backspace to work as a backspace in Oracle? It has been a while since I had the privilege of UNIX ( in any flavor) Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, ROR mª¿ªm -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Scott Canaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (716) 475-7886 Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it - Tom Lehrer -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Scott Canaan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: backspace in Oracle.
You'll have to define it in your profile using prompt stty erase press backspace key (without the and ) it is not something that can be set in glogin.sql. HTH Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art ! *1 This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you. *1 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jamadagni, Rajendra INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: backspace in Oracle.
Try the command stty erase press backspace key to set 'erase' to the appropriate key sequence for your term type before starting sqlplus session (or use SQL!stty erase backspace key from within SQL). HTH, - Kirti Deshpande Verizon Information Services http://www.superpages.com -Original Message- From: Ron Rogers [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 12:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: backspace in Oracle. List, I have created a test server using Linux 7.1 and Oracle 8.1.7.3 and it works great. The major problem I am having is I am NOT a typist and make errors at the SQL prompt. What do I set or define in the glogin to allow backspace to work as a backspace in Oracle? It has been a while since I had the privilege of UNIX ( in any flavor) Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, ROR mª¿ªm -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Deshpande, Kirti INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: backspace in Oracle.
Jared, Is that something specific to Linux? The other way (without the CTRL-V) works fine on HP-UX and AIX. - Kirti -Original Message- From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:26 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: backspace in Oracle. Ron, I see that you have received a number of emails suggesting that you use 'stty erase backspace'. Unfortunately, that is not quite correct. I have experienced the same problem on both of my Linux boxes, and have found that even though the backspace is set correctly at the unix command line, it does not work corrrectly in SQL*Plus. I've found this to be true with other software as well. Here's the workaround: Get the shell to take your backspace key literally, and then it will work. This is done by pressing , then pressing backspace. e.g. stty erase CTRL-V backspace. All should be fine now, both at the command line and in SQL*Plus. Not sure why this is, and haven't taken the time to figure it out. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Deshpande, Kirti INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: backspace in Oracle.
Ron, I see that you have received a number of emails suggesting that you use 'stty erase backspace'. Unfortunately, that is not quite correct. I have experienced the same problem on both of my Linux boxes, and have found that even though the backspace is set correctly at the unix command line, it does not work corrrectly in SQL*Plus. I've found this to be true with other software as well. Here's the workaround: Get the shell to take your backspace key literally, and then it will work. This is done by pressing CTRL-V , then pressing backspace. e.g. stty erase CTRL-V backspace. All should be fine now, both at the command line and in SQL*Plus. Not sure why this is, and haven't taken the time to figure it out. Jared On Friday 25 May 2001 10:01, Ron Rogers wrote: List, I have created a test server using Linux 7.1 and Oracle 8.1.7.3 and it works great. The major problem I am having is I am NOT a typist and make errors at the SQL prompt. What do I set or define in the glogin to allow backspace to work as a backspace in Oracle? It has been a while since I had the privilege of UNIX ( in any flavor) Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, ROR mª¿ªm -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: backspace in Oracle.
On Friday 25 May 2001 13:05, Deshpande, Kirti wrote: Jared, Is that something specific to Linux? The other way (without the CTRL-V) works fine on HP-UX and AIX. - Kirti Apparently so. I've two different brands/versions of linux, and I have to do this in both. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: backspace in Oracle.
Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I don't think he should be removed from the list. We're working on Linux (Red Hat and SUSE) and Solaris here, and we have this problem only on Linux. I've heard there are other operating systems out there besides Linux and Solaris. Is this true? --Walt Weaver Bozeman, Montana, USA -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 5/25/2001 5:24 PM On Friday 25 May 2001 13:05, Deshpande, Kirti wrote: Jared, Is that something specific to Linux? The other way (without the CTRL-V) works fine on HP-UX and AIX. - Kirti Apparently so. I've two different brands/versions of linux, and I have to do this in both. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Weaver, Walt INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: backspace in Oracle.
On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I don't think he should be removed from the list. I sure appreciate that Walt! I've heard there are other operating systems out there besides Linux and Solaris. Is this true? A nasty rumor. There's an upstart startup in WA that claims to have something akin to an OS, but it keeps failing the 30 day stability test. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
