RE: cannot allocate new log -- Problem Solved

2003-06-04 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Naula - Don't worry about it. You've given me something to look for the next
time. I'd rather learn from someone else's problems. :-)

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hi All,

Sorry I feel *really* stupid about this but here goes.

The database was picking up the wrong init.ora (the one it was picking up
had the archiving parameter set to false)
I've deleted all the old versions of the init.ora so this should n't happen
again.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions - the next time I'll use v$parameter
rather than the init.ora to verify the settings.

N.


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:-Subject: RE: cannot allocate new log
:-
:-
:-Check the disk capacity for the archive log destination.
:-
:-Bonnie Finke
:-
:-
:-
:--Original Message-
:-Cullen
:-Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:20 AM
:-To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
:-
:-
:-
:-Hi All,
:-
:-I keep getting a cannot allocate new log in the alert log.
:-This freezes the
:-entire application and I am unable to connect to oracle in
:-order to do a
:-statspack snap shot.
:-
:-This is an upgrade to Version 8.1.7.4 set up on a WK2000
:-(NEW) Server with 2
:-gigs of memory.
:-
:-We are writing to 3 separate disks
:-
:-Our DE drives are RAID 0+1. The log files (including
:-application logs) are
:-written to these drives
:-The F drive is raid 5 - this is where our data resides. (No
:-logs are written
:-to the F drive)
:-
:-Currently we have 4 groups of redo log files
:-
:- group 1  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_11.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_12.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 2  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_21.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_22.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 3  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_31.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_32.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 4  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_41.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_42.log')
:-size  20M reuse
:-
:-and we archive to e:\oracle\arc\gda
:-
:-These are our log settings from the init.ora
:-log_buffer  = 131072
:-log_checkpoint_interval = 1
:-log_checkpoint_timeout  = 0
:-
:-I have the performance monitor running the whole time and
:-when this happens
:-the CPU, DISK QUE LENGTH all look normal.
:-I have read the archive files regarding this error but
:-thought that the
:-above set-up was sufficient.
:-Can anybody *please* give me some idea of what other areas I
:-should be
:-looking at in order to prevent the error from occurring.
:-Would writing smaller files help? Disk space is not an issue.
:-
:-Thanks - all advice appreciated,
:-
:-N.
:-(developer/part-time DBA)
:-
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RE: cannot allocate new log -- Problem Solved

2003-06-04 Thread Naveen Nahata
Having multiple tnsnames.ora, and multiple init.ora always create
unanticipated problems.

 -Original Message-
 From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:05 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: cannot allocate new log -- Problem Solved
 
 
 Naula - Don't worry about it. You've given me something to 
 look for the next
 time. I'd rather learn from someone else's problems. :-)
 
 Dennis Williams
 DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 5:25 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 Sorry I feel *really* stupid about this but here goes.
 
 The database was picking up the wrong init.ora (the one it 
 was picking up
 had the archiving parameter set to false)
 I've deleted all the old versions of the init.ora so this 
 should n't happen
 again.
 
 Thanks for all the help and suggestions - the next time I'll 
 use v$parameter
 rather than the init.ora to verify the settings.
 
 N.
 
 
 :--Original Message-
 :-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bonnie
 :-Finke
 :-Sent: 02 June 2003 20:15
 :-To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 :-Subject: RE: cannot allocate new log
 :-
 :-
 :-Check the disk capacity for the archive log destination.
 :-
 :-Bonnie Finke
 :-
 :-
 :-
 :--Original Message-
 :-Cullen
 :-Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:20 AM
 :-To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 :-
 :-
 :-
 :-Hi All,
 :-
 :-I keep getting a cannot allocate new log in the alert log.
 :-This freezes the
 :-entire application and I am unable to connect to oracle in
 :-order to do a
 :-statspack snap shot.
 :-
 :-This is an upgrade to Version 8.1.7.4 set up on a WK2000
 :-(NEW) Server with 2
 :-gigs of memory.
 :-
 :-We are writing to 3 separate disks
 :-
 :-Our DE drives are RAID 0+1. The log files (including
 :-application logs) are
 :-written to these drives
 :-The F drive is raid 5 - this is where our data resides. (No
 :-logs are written
 :-to the F drive)
 :-
 :-Currently we have 4 groups of redo log files
 :-
 :- group 1  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_11.log',
 :-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_12.log')
 :-size  20M reuse,
 :- group 2  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_21.log',
 :-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_22.log')
 :-size  20M reuse,
 :- group 3  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_31.log',
 :-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_32.log')
 :-size  20M reuse,
 :- group 4  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_41.log',
 :-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_42.log')
 :-size  20M reuse
 :-
 :-and we archive to e:\oracle\arc\gda
 :-
 :-These are our log settings from the init.ora
 :-log_buffer  = 131072
 :-log_checkpoint_interval = 1
 :-log_checkpoint_timeout  = 0
 :-
 :-I have the performance monitor running the whole time and
 :-when this happens
 :-the CPU, DISK QUE LENGTH all look normal.
 :-I have read the archive files regarding this error but
 :-thought that the
 :-above set-up was sufficient.
 :-Can anybody *please* give me some idea of what other areas I
 :-should be
 :-looking at in order to prevent the error from occurring.
 :-Would writing smaller files help? Disk space is not an issue.
 :-
 :-Thanks - all advice appreciated,
 :-
 :-N.
 :-(developer/part-time DBA)
 :-
 :-___
 :-Nuala Cullen
 :-Catlogic
 :-30 Park Gate
 :-Milton Park
 :-Abingdon
 :-Oxfordshire
 :-OX14 4SH
 :-
 :-Phone: +44 (0) 1235 838151
 :-Fax:+44 (0) 1235 838160
 :-Direct Line: +44 (0) 1235 838147
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RE: cannot allocate new log

2003-06-03 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Nuala, 

Are you running your database in archive log mode?  

Type ARCHIVE LOG LIST at the Sql*Plus command line to find out.

What error message are you getting?  What is in your alert log?

Lisa Koivu
Oracle Database Monkey
Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA  33063
Office: 954-935-4117  
Fax:954-935-3639
Cell:954-683-4459



-Original Message-
Cullen
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Hi All,

I keep getting a cannot allocate new log in the alert log. This freezes the
entire application and I am unable to connect to oracle in order to do a
statspack snap shot.

This is an upgrade to Version 8.1.7.4 set up on a WK2000 (NEW) Server with 2
gigs of memory.

We are writing to 3 separate disks

Our DE drives are RAID 0+1. The log files (including application logs) are
written to these drives
The F drive is raid 5 - this is where our data resides. (No logs are written
to the F drive)

Currently we have 4 groups of redo log files

 group 1  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_11.log',
   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_12.log')size  20M reuse,
 group 2  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_21.log',
   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_22.log')size  20M reuse,
 group 3  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_31.log',
   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_32.log')size  20M reuse,
 group 4  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_41.log',
   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_42.log')size  20M reuse

and we archive to e:\oracle\arc\gda

These are our log settings from the init.ora
log_buffer  = 131072 
log_checkpoint_interval = 1
log_checkpoint_timeout  = 0

I have the performance monitor running the whole time and when this happens
the CPU, DISK QUE LENGTH all look normal.
I have read the archive files regarding this error but thought that the
above set-up was sufficient.
Can anybody *please* give me some idea of what other areas I should be
looking at in order to prevent the error from occurring.
Would writing smaller files help? Disk space is not an issue.

Thanks - all advice appreciated,

N.
(developer/part-time DBA)

___
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Catlogic
30 Park Gate
Milton Park
Abingdon
Oxfordshire
OX14 4SH

Phone: +44 (0) 1235 838151
Fax:+44 (0) 1235 838160  
Direct Line: +44 (0) 1235 838147
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RE: cannot allocate new log

2003-06-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Nuala - You didn't include your error number, so the following are some
guesses: Is your database in archivelogmode? Check the path to the archive
logs and make sure that drive hasn't filled. For the logs themselves, check
the paths and permissions.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Hi All,

I keep getting a cannot allocate new log in the alert log. This freezes the
entire application and I am unable to connect to oracle in order to do a
statspack snap shot.

This is an upgrade to Version 8.1.7.4 set up on a WK2000 (NEW) Server with 2
gigs of memory.

We are writing to 3 separate disks

Our DE drives are RAID 0+1. The log files (including application logs) are
written to these drives
The F drive is raid 5 - this is where our data resides. (No logs are written
to the F drive)

Currently we have 4 groups of redo log files

 group 1  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_11.log',
   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_12.log')size  20M reuse,
 group 2  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_21.log',
   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_22.log')size  20M reuse,
 group 3  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_31.log',
   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_32.log')size  20M reuse,
 group 4  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_41.log',
   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_42.log')size  20M reuse

and we archive to e:\oracle\arc\gda

These are our log settings from the init.ora
log_buffer  = 131072 
log_checkpoint_interval = 1
log_checkpoint_timeout  = 0

I have the performance monitor running the whole time and when this happens
the CPU, DISK QUE LENGTH all look normal.
I have read the archive files regarding this error but thought that the
above set-up was sufficient.
Can anybody *please* give me some idea of what other areas I should be
looking at in order to prevent the error from occurring.
Would writing smaller files help? Disk space is not an issue.

Thanks - all advice appreciated,

N.
(developer/part-time DBA)

___
Nuala Cullen
Catlogic
30 Park Gate
Milton Park
Abingdon
Oxfordshire
OX14 4SH

Phone: +44 (0) 1235 838151
Fax:+44 (0) 1235 838160  
Direct Line: +44 (0) 1235 838147
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RE: cannot allocate new log

2003-06-03 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Nuala,

20M for log files might be too small.  look in the alert log file and see
how often logs are switching.  it could be that all four sets of logs are
full, and you are waiting for the archiver process to clear a log for you.
the database will hang until this process completes.

log switches should not be occurring more often than 20-30 minutes at the
most.  some people set their systems up for much longer intervals by
creating much larger log files.  I personally like them no sooner than an
hour apart.

good luck.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Hi All,

I keep getting a cannot allocate new log in the alert log. This freezes the
entire application and I am unable to connect to oracle in order to do a
statspack snap shot.

This is an upgrade to Version 8.1.7.4 set up on a WK2000 (NEW) Server with 2
gigs of memory.

We are writing to 3 separate disks

Our DE drives are RAID 0+1. The log files (including application logs) are
written to these drives
The F drive is raid 5 - this is where our data resides. (No logs are written
to the F drive)

Currently we have 4 groups of redo log files

 group 1  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_11.log',
   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_12.log')size  20M reuse,
 group 2  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_21.log',
   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_22.log')size  20M reuse,
 group 3  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_31.log',
   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_32.log')size  20M reuse,
 group 4  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_41.log',
   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_42.log')size  20M reuse

and we archive to e:\oracle\arc\gda

These are our log settings from the init.ora
log_buffer  = 131072 
log_checkpoint_interval = 1
log_checkpoint_timeout  = 0

I have the performance monitor running the whole time and when this happens
the CPU, DISK QUE LENGTH all look normal.
I have read the archive files regarding this error but thought that the
above set-up was sufficient.
Can anybody *please* give me some idea of what other areas I should be
looking at in order to prevent the error from occurring.
Would writing smaller files help? Disk space is not an issue.

Thanks - all advice appreciated,

N.
(developer/part-time DBA)

___
Nuala Cullen
Catlogic
30 Park Gate
Milton Park
Abingdon
Oxfordshire
OX14 4SH

Phone: +44 (0) 1235 838151
Fax:+44 (0) 1235 838160  
Direct Line: +44 (0) 1235 838147
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RE: cannot allocate new log

2003-06-03 Thread Nuala Cullen

Hi Denis,

Thanks for the quick reply,

We're not getting an oracle error no: This is the message in the alert log
Mon Jun 02 08:19:19 2003
Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 711
All online logs needed archiving
  Current log# 2 seq# 710 mem# 0: D:\ORACLE\ORADATA\GDA\GDA_21.LOG
  Current log# 2 seq# 710 mem# 1: E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\GDA\GDA_22.LOG

The event log has a similar message.

Our database is in archivelogmode 
log_archive_start   = True

Space is not an issue on the drive - there's at least 10 gigs free.
Disk access and write permissions are ok as it seems to write some of the
logs but then stops!
I checked this by doing an alter system switch logfile - to force a write -
which was successful.

Any other suggestions are appreciated,

N.

:--Original Message-
:-From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:-Sent: 02 June 2003 15:37
:-To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
:-Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
:-Subject: RE: cannot allocate new log
:-
:-
:-Nuala - You didn't include your error number, so the 
:-following are some
:-guesses: Is your database in archivelogmode? Check the path 
:-to the archive
:-logs and make sure that drive hasn't filled. For the logs 
:-themselves, check
:-the paths and permissions.
:-
:-Dennis Williams
:-DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
:-Lifetouch, Inc.
:-[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
:-
:-
:--Original Message-
:-From: Nuala Cullen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:-Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:20 AM
:-To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
:-Subject: cannot allocate new log
:-
:-
:-
:-Hi All,
:-
:-I keep getting a cannot allocate new log in the alert log. 
:-This freezes the
:-entire application and I am unable to connect to oracle in 
:-order to do a
:-statspack snap shot.
:-
:-This is an upgrade to Version 8.1.7.4 set up on a WK2000 
:-(NEW) Server with 2
:-gigs of memory.
:-
:-We are writing to 3 separate disks
:-
:-Our DE drives are RAID 0+1. The log files (including 
:-application logs) are
:-written to these drives
:-The F drive is raid 5 - this is where our data resides. (No 
:-logs are written
:-to the F drive)
:-
:-Currently we have 4 groups of redo log files
:-
:- group 1  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_11.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_12.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 2  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_21.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_22.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 3  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_31.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_32.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 4  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_41.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_42.log')
:-size  20M reuse
:-
:-and we archive to e:\oracle\arc\gda
:-
:-These are our log settings from the init.ora
:-log_buffer  = 131072 
:-log_checkpoint_interval = 1
:-log_checkpoint_timeout  = 0
:-
:-I have the performance monitor running the whole time and 
:-when this happens
:-the CPU, DISK QUE LENGTH all look normal.
:-I have read the archive files regarding this error but 
:-thought that the
:-above set-up was sufficient.
:-Can anybody *please* give me some idea of what other areas I 
:-should be
:-looking at in order to prevent the error from occurring.
:-Would writing smaller files help? Disk space is not an issue.
:-
:-Thanks - all advice appreciated,
:-
:-N.
:-(developer/part-time DBA)
:-
:-___
:-Nuala Cullen
:-Catlogic 
:-30 Park Gate 
:-Milton Park
:-Abingdon
:-Oxfordshire
:-OX14 4SH
:-
:-Phone: +44 (0) 1235 838151
:-Fax:+44 (0) 1235 838160  
:-Direct Line: +44 (0) 1235 838147
:-___
:-
:-
:-
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RE: cannot allocate new log

2003-06-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Nuala
   Running off to a meeting, and Metalink seems to be down. I did a Google
search and found this link which seems to somewhat touch on your issue:
http://www.geocities.com/oraperf/redo/arch_tuning.html
From your message, I infer that the database just hangs for awhile, then
corrects itself? Are there a lot of updates at that time?

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:27 AM
To: DENNIS WILLIAMS; Multiple ORACLE-L (E-mail)



Hi Denis,

Thanks for the quick reply,

We're not getting an oracle error no: This is the message in the alert log
Mon Jun 02 08:19:19 2003
Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 711
All online logs needed archiving
  Current log# 2 seq# 710 mem# 0: D:\ORACLE\ORADATA\GDA\GDA_21.LOG
  Current log# 2 seq# 710 mem# 1: E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\GDA\GDA_22.LOG

The event log has a similar message.

Our database is in archivelogmode
log_archive_start   = True

Space is not an issue on the drive - there's at least 10 gigs free.
Disk access and write permissions are ok as it seems to write some of the
logs but then stops!
I checked this by doing an alter system switch logfile - to force a write -
which was successful.

Any other suggestions are appreciated,

N.

:--Original Message-
:-From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:-Sent: 02 June 2003 15:37
:-To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
:-Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
:-Subject: RE: cannot allocate new log
:-
:-
:-Nuala - You didn't include your error number, so the
:-following are some
:-guesses: Is your database in archivelogmode? Check the path
:-to the archive
:-logs and make sure that drive hasn't filled. For the logs
:-themselves, check
:-the paths and permissions.
:-
:-Dennis Williams
:-DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
:-Lifetouch, Inc.
:-[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:-
:-
:--Original Message-
:-From: Nuala Cullen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:-Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:20 AM
:-To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
:-Subject: cannot allocate new log
:-
:-
:-
:-Hi All,
:-
:-I keep getting a cannot allocate new log in the alert log.
:-This freezes the
:-entire application and I am unable to connect to oracle in
:-order to do a
:-statspack snap shot.
:-
:-This is an upgrade to Version 8.1.7.4 set up on a WK2000
:-(NEW) Server with 2
:-gigs of memory.
:-
:-We are writing to 3 separate disks
:-
:-Our DE drives are RAID 0+1. The log files (including
:-application logs) are
:-written to these drives
:-The F drive is raid 5 - this is where our data resides. (No
:-logs are written
:-to the F drive)
:-
:-Currently we have 4 groups of redo log files
:-
:- group 1  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_11.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_12.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 2  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_21.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_22.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 3  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_31.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_32.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 4  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_41.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_42.log')
:-size  20M reuse
:-
:-and we archive to e:\oracle\arc\gda
:-
:-These are our log settings from the init.ora
:-log_buffer  = 131072
:-log_checkpoint_interval = 1
:-log_checkpoint_timeout  = 0
:-
:-I have the performance monitor running the whole time and
:-when this happens
:-the CPU, DISK QUE LENGTH all look normal.
:-I have read the archive files regarding this error but
:-thought that the
:-above set-up was sufficient.
:-Can anybody *please* give me some idea of what other areas I
:-should be
:-looking at in order to prevent the error from occurring.
:-Would writing smaller files help? Disk space is not an issue.
:-
:-Thanks - all advice appreciated,
:-
:-N.
:-(developer/part-time DBA)
:-
:-___
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:-Catlogic
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RE: cannot allocate new log

2003-06-03 Thread Scott Stefick

Nuala,

It looks like the DB is waiting for you to manually archive the
logs. Like Lisa suggested, could you do an archive log list from
the sqlplus prompt and post the results? There are two steps in
setting up archiving. You have to set the proper parameters in the
init.ora file, and then bring the db up in mount mode to start the
archiver before you open the database.  

-Scott





At 08:24 AM 6/2/03 -0800, you wrote:

Hi Denis,

Thanks for the quick reply,

We're not getting an oracle error no: This is the message in the alert
log
Mon Jun 02 08:19:19 2003
Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 711
All online logs needed archiving
 Current log# 2 seq# 710 mem# 0:
D:\ORACLE\ORADATA\GDA\GDA_21.LOG
 Current log# 2 seq# 710 mem# 1:
E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\GDA\GDA_22.LOG

The event log has a similar message.

Our database is in archivelogmode 
log_archive_start = True

Space is not an issue on the drive - there's at least 10 gigs free.
Disk access and write permissions are ok as it seems to write some of
the
logs but then stops!
I checked this by doing an alter system switch logfile - to force a write
-
which was successful.

Any other suggestions are appreciated,

N.

:--Original Message-
:-From: DENNIS WILLIAMS
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
:-Sent: 02 June 2003 15:37
:-To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
:-Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
:-Subject: RE: cannot allocate new log
:-
:-
:-Nuala - You didn't include your error number, so the 
:-following are some
:-guesses: Is your database in archivelogmode? Check the path 
:-to the archive
:-logs and make sure that drive hasn't filled. For the logs 
:-themselves, check
:-the paths and permissions.
:-
:-Dennis Williams
:-DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
:-Lifetouch, Inc.
:-[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
:-
:-
:--Original Message-
:-From: Nuala Cullen
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
:-Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:20 AM
:-To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
:-Subject: cannot allocate new log
:-
:-
:-
:-Hi All,
:-
:-I keep getting a cannot allocate new log in the alert log. 
:-This freezes the
:-entire application and I am unable to connect to oracle in 
:-order to do a
:-statspack snap shot.
:-
:-This is an upgrade to Version 8.1.7.4 set up on a WK2000 
:-(NEW) Server with 2
:-gigs of memory.
:-
:-We are writing to 3 separate disks
:-
:-Our DE drives are RAID 0+1. The log files (including 
:-application logs) are
:-written to these drives
:-The F drive is raid 5 - this is where our data resides. (No 
:-logs are written
:-to the F drive)
:-
:-Currently we have 4 groups of redo log files
:-
:- group 1
('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_11.log',
:-
'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_12.log') 
:-size 20M reuse,
:- group 2
('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_21.log',
:-
'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_22.log') 
:-size 20M reuse,
:- group 3
('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_31.log',
:-
'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_32.log') 
:-size 20M reuse,
:- group 4
('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_41.log',
:-
'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_42.log') 
:-size 20M reuse
:-
:-and we archive to e:\oracle\arc\gda
:-
:-These are our log settings from the init.ora
:-log_buffer
= 131072 
:-log_checkpoint_interval
= 1
:-log_checkpoint_timeout
= 0
:-
:-I have the performance monitor running the whole time and 
:-when this happens
:-the CPU, DISK QUE LENGTH all look normal.
:-I have read the archive files regarding this error but 
:-thought that the
:-above set-up was sufficient.
:-Can anybody *please* give me some idea of what other areas I 
:-should be
:-looking at in order to prevent the error from occurring.
:-Would writing smaller files help? Disk space is not an issue.
:-
:-Thanks - all advice appreciated,
:-
:-N.
:-(developer/part-time DBA)
:-
:-___
:-Nuala Cullen
:-Catlogic
:-30 Park
Gate
:-Milton Park
:-Abingdon
:-Oxfordshire
:-OX14 4SH
:-
:-Phone: +44 (0) 1235
838151
:-Fax:
+44 (0) 1235 838160 
:-Direct Line: +44 (0) 1235 838147
:-___
:-
:-
:-


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RE: cannot allocate new log

2003-06-03 Thread Igor Neyman
Try to add some more RedoLog groups.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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-Original Message-
Cullen
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:25 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi Denis,

Thanks for the quick reply,

We're not getting an oracle error no: This is the message in the alert
log
Mon Jun 02 08:19:19 2003
Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 711
All online logs needed archiving
  Current log# 2 seq# 710 mem# 0: D:\ORACLE\ORADATA\GDA\GDA_21.LOG
  Current log# 2 seq# 710 mem# 1: E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\GDA\GDA_22.LOG

The event log has a similar message.

Our database is in archivelogmode 
log_archive_start   = True

Space is not an issue on the drive - there's at least 10 gigs free.
Disk access and write permissions are ok as it seems to write some of
the
logs but then stops!
I checked this by doing an alter system switch logfile - to force a
write -
which was successful.

Any other suggestions are appreciated,

N.

:--Original Message-
:-From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:-Sent: 02 June 2003 15:37
:-To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
:-Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
:-Subject: RE: cannot allocate new log
:-
:-
:-Nuala - You didn't include your error number, so the 
:-following are some
:-guesses: Is your database in archivelogmode? Check the path 
:-to the archive
:-logs and make sure that drive hasn't filled. For the logs 
:-themselves, check
:-the paths and permissions.
:-
:-Dennis Williams
:-DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
:-Lifetouch, Inc.
:-[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
:-
:-
:--Original Message-
:-From: Nuala Cullen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:-Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:20 AM
:-To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
:-Subject: cannot allocate new log
:-
:-
:-
:-Hi All,
:-
:-I keep getting a cannot allocate new log in the alert log. 
:-This freezes the
:-entire application and I am unable to connect to oracle in 
:-order to do a
:-statspack snap shot.
:-
:-This is an upgrade to Version 8.1.7.4 set up on a WK2000 
:-(NEW) Server with 2
:-gigs of memory.
:-
:-We are writing to 3 separate disks
:-
:-Our DE drives are RAID 0+1. The log files (including 
:-application logs) are
:-written to these drives
:-The F drive is raid 5 - this is where our data resides. (No 
:-logs are written
:-to the F drive)
:-
:-Currently we have 4 groups of redo log files
:-
:- group 1  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_11.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_12.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 2  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_21.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_22.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 3  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_31.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_32.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 4  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_41.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_42.log')
:-size  20M reuse
:-
:-and we archive to e:\oracle\arc\gda
:-
:-These are our log settings from the init.ora
:-log_buffer  = 131072 
:-log_checkpoint_interval = 1
:-log_checkpoint_timeout  = 0
:-
:-I have the performance monitor running the whole time and 
:-when this happens
:-the CPU, DISK QUE LENGTH all look normal.
:-I have read the archive files regarding this error but 
:-thought that the
:-above set-up was sufficient.
:-Can anybody *please* give me some idea of what other areas I 
:-should be
:-looking at in order to prevent the error from occurring.
:-Would writing smaller files help? Disk space is not an issue.
:-
:-Thanks - all advice appreciated,
:-
:-N.
:-(developer/part-time DBA)
:-
:-___
:-Nuala Cullen
:-Catlogic 
:-30 Park Gate 
:-Milton Park
:-Abingdon
:-Oxfordshire
:-OX14 4SH
:-
:-Phone: +44 (0) 1235 838151
:-Fax:+44 (0) 1235 838160  
:-Direct Line: +44 (0) 1235 838147
:-___
:-
:-
:-


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RE: cannot allocate new log

2003-06-03 Thread M Rafiq
Yoiur logfile size is too small to handle peaktime DML activities.

Possible solutions:

First track that job resulting in so much archiving. Check through v$sqlarea 
with active sessions resuling in DMA.
Increase size of your logfiles and meantime also try to add more   
group/members. For specifics see Oracle DBA manual.

Regards
Rafiq


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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:24:50 -0800
Hi Denis,

Thanks for the quick reply,

We're not getting an oracle error no: This is the message in the alert log
Mon Jun 02 08:19:19 2003
Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 711
All online logs needed archiving
  Current log# 2 seq# 710 mem# 0: D:\ORACLE\ORADATA\GDA\GDA_21.LOG
  Current log# 2 seq# 710 mem# 1: E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\GDA\GDA_22.LOG
The event log has a similar message.

Our database is in archivelogmode
log_archive_start   = True
Space is not an issue on the drive - there's at least 10 gigs free.
Disk access and write permissions are ok as it seems to write some of the
logs but then stops!
I checked this by doing an alter system switch logfile - to force a write -
which was successful.
Any other suggestions are appreciated,

N.

:--Original Message-
:-From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:-Sent: 02 June 2003 15:37
:-To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
:-Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
:-Subject: RE: cannot allocate new log
:-
:-
:-Nuala - You didn't include your error number, so the
:-following are some
:-guesses: Is your database in archivelogmode? Check the path
:-to the archive
:-logs and make sure that drive hasn't filled. For the logs
:-themselves, check
:-the paths and permissions.
:-
:-Dennis Williams
:-DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
:-Lifetouch, Inc.
:-[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:-
:-
:--Original Message-
:-From: Nuala Cullen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:-Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:20 AM
:-To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
:-Subject: cannot allocate new log
:-
:-
:-
:-Hi All,
:-
:-I keep getting a cannot allocate new log in the alert log.
:-This freezes the
:-entire application and I am unable to connect to oracle in
:-order to do a
:-statspack snap shot.
:-
:-This is an upgrade to Version 8.1.7.4 set up on a WK2000
:-(NEW) Server with 2
:-gigs of memory.
:-
:-We are writing to 3 separate disks
:-
:-Our DE drives are RAID 0+1. The log files (including
:-application logs) are
:-written to these drives
:-The F drive is raid 5 - this is where our data resides. (No
:-logs are written
:-to the F drive)
:-
:-Currently we have 4 groups of redo log files
:-
:- group 1  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_11.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_12.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 2  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_21.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_22.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 3  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_31.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_32.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 4  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_41.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_42.log')
:-size  20M reuse
:-
:-and we archive to e:\oracle\arc\gda
:-
:-These are our log settings from the init.ora
:-log_buffer  = 131072
:-log_checkpoint_interval = 1
:-log_checkpoint_timeout  = 0
:-
:-I have the performance monitor running the whole time and
:-when this happens
:-the CPU, DISK QUE LENGTH all look normal.
:-I have read the archive files regarding this error but
:-thought that the
:-above set-up was sufficient.
:-Can anybody *please* give me some idea of what other areas I
:-should be
:-looking at in order to prevent the error from occurring.
:-Would writing smaller files help? Disk space is not an issue.
:-
:-Thanks - all advice appreciated,
:-
:-N.
:-(developer/part-time DBA)
:-
:-___
:-Nuala Cullen
:-Catlogic
:-30 Park Gate
:-Milton Park
:-Abingdon
:-Oxfordshire
:-OX14 4SH
:-
:-Phone: +44 (0) 1235 838151
:-Fax:+44 (0) 1235 838160
:-Direct Line: +44 (0) 1235 838147
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:-
:-
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RE: cannot allocate new log

2003-06-03 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
I am siding with Scott and would double-check that automatic archiving is 
on. Also, what are your log_archive_dest settings? If you are using 
log_archive_dest_n make sure you add the reopen = nn attribute.

At 08:49 AM 6/2/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Nuala,

It looks like the DB is waiting for you to manually archive the 
logs.  Like Lisa suggested, could you do an archive log list from the 
sqlplus prompt and post the results?  There are two steps in setting up 
archiving.  You have to set the proper parameters in the init.ora file, 
and then bring the db up in mount mode to start the archiver before you 
open the database.

-Scott
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RE: cannot allocate new log -- Problem Solved

2003-06-03 Thread Nuala Cullen

Hi All,

Sorry I feel *really* stupid about this but here goes.

The database was picking up the wrong init.ora (the one it was picking up
had the archiving parameter set to false)
I've deleted all the old versions of the init.ora so this should n't happen
again.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions - the next time I'll use v$parameter
rather than the init.ora to verify the settings.

N.


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:-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bonnie
:-Finke
:-Sent: 02 June 2003 20:15
:-To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
:-Subject: RE: cannot allocate new log
:-
:-
:-Check the disk capacity for the archive log destination.
:-
:-Bonnie Finke
:-
:-
:-
:--Original Message-
:-Cullen
:-Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:20 AM
:-To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
:-
:-
:-
:-Hi All,
:-
:-I keep getting a cannot allocate new log in the alert log.
:-This freezes the
:-entire application and I am unable to connect to oracle in
:-order to do a
:-statspack snap shot.
:-
:-This is an upgrade to Version 8.1.7.4 set up on a WK2000
:-(NEW) Server with 2
:-gigs of memory.
:-
:-We are writing to 3 separate disks
:-
:-Our DE drives are RAID 0+1. The log files (including
:-application logs) are
:-written to these drives
:-The F drive is raid 5 - this is where our data resides. (No
:-logs are written
:-to the F drive)
:-
:-Currently we have 4 groups of redo log files
:-
:- group 1  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_11.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_12.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 2  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_21.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_22.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 3  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_31.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_32.log')
:-size  20M reuse,
:- group 4  ('d:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_41.log',
:-   'e:\oracle\oradata\gda\gda_42.log')
:-size  20M reuse
:-
:-and we archive to e:\oracle\arc\gda
:-
:-These are our log settings from the init.ora
:-log_buffer  = 131072
:-log_checkpoint_interval = 1
:-log_checkpoint_timeout  = 0
:-
:-I have the performance monitor running the whole time and
:-when this happens
:-the CPU, DISK QUE LENGTH all look normal.
:-I have read the archive files regarding this error but
:-thought that the
:-above set-up was sufficient.
:-Can anybody *please* give me some idea of what other areas I
:-should be
:-looking at in order to prevent the error from occurring.
:-Would writing smaller files help? Disk space is not an issue.
:-
:-Thanks - all advice appreciated,
:-
:-N.
:-(developer/part-time DBA)
:-
:-___
:-Nuala Cullen
:-Catlogic
:-30 Park Gate
:-Milton Park
:-Abingdon
:-Oxfordshire
:-OX14 4SH
:-
:-Phone: +44 (0) 1235 838151
:-Fax:+44 (0) 1235 838160
:-Direct Line: +44 (0) 1235 838147
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RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-04 Thread Fermin Bernaus Berraondo

Dennis,

This is our actual distribution:

Datafiles belonging to data in a separate disk, name it /baandata
Datafiles belonging to index in a separate disk, name it /baanindex

And 3 redolog files, two of them in another two separate disks, and the third 
one located in the same device as the data files (/baandata).

All of them are mirrored disks.

Your comment makes sense, but if keeping datafiles and one of the redolog 
files in the same device should affect performance, then I wonder why the cannot 
allocate new log, checkpoint not complete message is affecting to the 3 redolog files 
and not only to the one located in that datafile device.

I did not think on this. Anyway I have no more disks in which I can split the 
redologs...

I can not wait for your comments!

Regards,

Fermin.

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De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de DENNIS
WILLIAMS
Enviado el: jueves, 03 de abril de 2003 17:04
Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Asunto: RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete


Fermin - Connor's reply sparked an idea. By any chance do you have your redo
logs on the same device as your data files? 

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Basically as the message suggests the redo cannot be
recycled until the checkpoint has completed flushing
out the cache.  

A *workaround* is to add redo log (size or number) but
its really a heads-up about your I/O subsystem not
being up to keep up under stress.

hth
connor

 --- Fermin Bernaus Berraondo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  
   I think I am having problems with my redologs.
 Under normal circumstances no errors arise, but if I
 do a massive import of data as I was doing last
 night, this is what alertSID.log shows from time to
 time:
 
 Wed Apr  2 23:29:52 2003
 Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 557295
   Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
 /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
 Wed Apr  2 23:31:11 2003
 Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 557296
 Checkpoint not complete
   Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
 /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
 Wed Apr  2 23:31:50 2003
 
   In that exact time, everything freezes and the
 database is dead until a new redolog can be used.
 
   I have 3 redologs 50 Mb each. I've read that the
 error is because too much data is trying to get into
 the redologs and all of them are full, Oracle does
 not have the time to reuse a redolog and has to wait
 until the redolog is ready to be reused. 
 
   So the solution seems to make these redolog files
 bigger or to create new ones. What are the side
 effects of one or the other? will performance under
 normal work be penalised?
 
 ..
 Fermín Bernaus Berraondo
 Dpto. de Informática
 SAMMIC, S.A.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-04 Thread Fermin Bernaus Berraondo


No problem with the archive log management scripts, I back up archived log 
files daily, no matter how many of them we have.

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De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de Reardon,
Bruce (CALBBAY)
Enviado el: viernes, 04 de abril de 2003 3:28
Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Asunto: RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete


There are some other effects I can think of.

Up to you if these are important / significant to your users.

If you make them bigger and you have a standby database then the standby might end up 
being further behind production (unless you have a script to workaround this) and also 
in this case you may then not get the files transferring successfully (depends on your 
network etc).

Also, if you make them bigger and you have a loss of all redo logs (hopefully unlikely 
if they are mirrored on mirrored disks) then you will lose more data as it will be a 
longer period of time since the last archive log was created.

And what about your archive log management scripts - do they keep x days worth of 
files (in which case the volume of archive log on disk will not change) or do they 
keep y files - in this case the volume of disks would increase unless the script(s) 
are altered.

Regards,
Bruce Reardon

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Correct.

The only potential disadvantage is that recovery will take longer when
bringing up the database after a crash.


Jay Miller

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I dissagree, they will be bigger but there will be less of them. If
the amount of processed data does not change, I do not think changing the
size of the redolog files should affect the total amount fo bytes to be
backeup up

Thanks for the recommendation anyway ;)

Cheers,

Fermin.

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Asunto: AW: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete


Hi

I would suggest to increase the redo log size. Doesn't effect you during
daily operation, but prevents the database from hanging during nightly
batches. No side effects I can think of (except for the fact that, of
course, it will take you longer to backup the archived logs since the files
are bigger, duh ;).

Good luck
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Betreff: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete



I think I am having problems with my redologs. Under normal
circumstances no errors arise, but if I do a massive import of data as I was
doing last night, this is what alertSID.log shows from time to time:

Wed Apr  2 23:29:52 2003
Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 557295
  Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0: /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
Wed Apr  2 23:31:11 2003
Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 557296
Checkpoint not complete
  Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0: /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
Wed Apr  2 23:31:50 2003

In that exact time, everything freezes and the database is dead
until a new redolog can be used.

I have 3 redologs 50 Mb each. I've read that the error is because
too much data is trying to get into the redologs and all of them are full,
Oracle does not have the time to reuse a redolog and has to wait until the
redolog is ready to be reused. 

So the solution seems to make these redolog files bigger or to
create new ones. What are the side effects of one or the other? will
performance under normal work be penalised

RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-04 Thread Connor McDonald
Its not really a particular redo log that is the
issue.  You've used up redo's (say) 1, 2, 3 and you
want to cycle around to 1 but the checkpoint that
would free up  redo 1 is not yet finished.

Thus its not a single redo log that is the problem -
the IO rate of the checkpoint is not sufficient quick
to avoid the redo cycling around...If one of your
redo's is on common datafile disk, this could
contribute to this

hth
connor

 --- Fermin Bernaus Berraondo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  
   Dennis,
 
   This is our actual distribution:
 
   Datafiles belonging to data in a separate disk,
 name it /baandata
   Datafiles belonging to index in a separate disk,
 name it /baanindex
 
   And 3 redolog files, two of them in another two
 separate disks, and the third one located in the
 same device as the data files (/baandata).
 
   All of them are mirrored disks.
 
   Your comment makes sense, but if keeping datafiles
 and one of the redolog files in the same device
 should affect performance, then I wonder why the
 cannot allocate new log, checkpoint not complete
 message is affecting to the 3 redolog files and not
 only to the one located in that datafile device.
 
   I did not think on this. Anyway I have no more
 disks in which I can split the redologs...
 
   I can not wait for your comments!
 
   Regards,
 
 Fermin.
 
 -Mensaje original-
 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 nombre de DENNIS
 WILLIAMS
 Enviado el: jueves, 03 de abril de 2003 17:04
 Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Asunto: RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not
 complete
 
 
 Fermin - Connor's reply sparked an idea. By any
 chance do you have your redo
 logs on the same device as your data files? 
 
 Dennis Williams
 DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:04 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Basically as the message suggests the redo cannot be
 recycled until the checkpoint has completed flushing
 out the cache.  
 
 A *workaround* is to add redo log (size or number)
 but
 its really a heads-up about your I/O subsystem not
 being up to keep up under stress.
 
 hth
 connor
 
  --- Fermin Bernaus Berraondo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:  
  I think I am having problems with my redologs.
  Under normal circumstances no errors arise, but if
 I
  do a massive import of data as I was doing last
  night, this is what alertSID.log shows from time
 to
  time:
  
  Wed Apr  2 23:29:52 2003
  Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 557295
Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
  /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
  Wed Apr  2 23:31:11 2003
  Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 557296
  Checkpoint not complete
Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
  /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
  Wed Apr  2 23:31:50 2003
  
  In that exact time, everything freezes and the
  database is dead until a new redolog can be used.
  
  I have 3 redologs 50 Mb each. I've read that the
  error is because too much data is trying to get
 into
  the redologs and all of them are full, Oracle does
  not have the time to reuse a redolog and has to
 wait
  until the redolog is ready to be reused. 
  
  So the solution seems to make these redolog files
  bigger or to create new ones. What are the side
  effects of one or the other? will performance
 under
  normal work be penalised?
  
  ..
  Fermín Bernaus Berraondo
  Dpto. de Informática
  SAMMIC, S.A.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.sammic.com
  Telf. +34 - 943 157 331
  Fax +34 - 943 151 276
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RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-04 Thread Fermin Bernaus Berraondo

So do you think the following distribution will contribute to a better 
performance:

data datafiles - device a
index datafiles - device b
redolog1 - device c
redolog2 - device d
redolog3 - device c

instead of:

data datafiles - device a
index datafiles - device b
redolog1 - device c
redolog2 - device d
redolog3 - device a

Because I only have 5 devices available.



-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de Connor
McDonald
Enviado el: viernes, 04 de abril de 2003 11:49
Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Asunto: RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete


Its not really a particular redo log that is the
issue.  You've used up redo's (say) 1, 2, 3 and you
want to cycle around to 1 but the checkpoint that
would free up  redo 1 is not yet finished.

Thus its not a single redo log that is the problem -
the IO rate of the checkpoint is not sufficient quick
to avoid the redo cycling around...If one of your
redo's is on common datafile disk, this could
contribute to this

hth
connor

 --- Fermin Bernaus Berraondo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  
   Dennis,
 
   This is our actual distribution:
 
   Datafiles belonging to data in a separate disk,
 name it /baandata
   Datafiles belonging to index in a separate disk,
 name it /baanindex
 
   And 3 redolog files, two of them in another two
 separate disks, and the third one located in the
 same device as the data files (/baandata).
 
   All of them are mirrored disks.
 
   Your comment makes sense, but if keeping datafiles
 and one of the redolog files in the same device
 should affect performance, then I wonder why the
 cannot allocate new log, checkpoint not complete
 message is affecting to the 3 redolog files and not
 only to the one located in that datafile device.
 
   I did not think on this. Anyway I have no more
 disks in which I can split the redologs...
 
   I can not wait for your comments!
 
   Regards,
 
 Fermin.
 
 -Mensaje original-
 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 nombre de DENNIS
 WILLIAMS
 Enviado el: jueves, 03 de abril de 2003 17:04
 Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Asunto: RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not
 complete
 
 
 Fermin - Connor's reply sparked an idea. By any
 chance do you have your redo
 logs on the same device as your data files? 
 
 Dennis Williams
 DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:04 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Basically as the message suggests the redo cannot be
 recycled until the checkpoint has completed flushing
 out the cache.  
 
 A *workaround* is to add redo log (size or number)
 but
 its really a heads-up about your I/O subsystem not
 being up to keep up under stress.
 
 hth
 connor
 
  --- Fermin Bernaus Berraondo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:  
  I think I am having problems with my redologs.
  Under normal circumstances no errors arise, but if
 I
  do a massive import of data as I was doing last
  night, this is what alertSID.log shows from time
 to
  time:
  
  Wed Apr  2 23:29:52 2003
  Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 557295
Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
  /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
  Wed Apr  2 23:31:11 2003
  Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 557296
  Checkpoint not complete
Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
  /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
  Wed Apr  2 23:31:50 2003
  
  In that exact time, everything freezes and the
  database is dead until a new redolog can be used.
  
  I have 3 redologs 50 Mb each. I've read that the
  error is because too much data is trying to get
 into
  the redologs and all of them are full, Oracle does
  not have the time to reuse a redolog and has to
 wait
  until the redolog is ready to be reused. 
  
  So the solution seems to make these redolog files
  bigger or to create new ones. What are the side
  effects of one or the other? will performance
 under
  normal work be penalised?
  
  ..
  Fermín Bernaus Berraondo
  Dpto. de Informática
  SAMMIC, S.A.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.sammic.com
  Telf. +34 - 943 157 331
  Fax +34 - 943 151 276
  ..
  
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RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-04 Thread Cary Millsap
Fermin,

The checkpoint incomplete message is a statement that your DBWR is not
keeping up with the pace of redo generation. You can try to paint over the
problem by adding redo log files. This works when you create enough redo
log file space that your peak redo generation event concludes before your
system needs to reuse an online redo log file.

The real root cause of this problem is that your DBWR is unable to keep up.
Often, this occurs because DBWR has to compete with high I/O loads to your
database files. Probably the most common cause of that high I/O load is one
or more nasty SQL queries hammering on the device(s).
 

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Berraondo
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 1:19 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Dennis,

This is our actual distribution:

Datafiles belonging to data in a separate disk, name it /baandata
Datafiles belonging to index in a separate disk, name it /baanindex

And 3 redolog files, two of them in another two separate disks, and
the third one located in the same device as the data files (/baandata).

All of them are mirrored disks.

Your comment makes sense, but if keeping datafiles and one of the
redolog files in the same device should affect performance, then I wonder
why the cannot allocate new log, checkpoint not complete message is
affecting to the 3 redolog files and not only to the one located in that
datafile device.

I did not think on this. Anyway I have no more disks in which I can
split the redologs...

I can not wait for your comments!

Regards,

Fermin.

-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de DENNIS
WILLIAMS
Enviado el: jueves, 03 de abril de 2003 17:04
Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Asunto: RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete


Fermin - Connor's reply sparked an idea. By any chance do you have your redo
logs on the same device as your data files? 

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:04 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Basically as the message suggests the redo cannot be
recycled until the checkpoint has completed flushing
out the cache.  

A *workaround* is to add redo log (size or number) but
its really a heads-up about your I/O subsystem not
being up to keep up under stress.

hth
connor

 --- Fermin Bernaus Berraondo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  
   I think I am having problems with my redologs.
 Under normal circumstances no errors arise, but if I
 do a massive import of data as I was doing last
 night, this is what alertSID.log shows from time to
 time:
 
 Wed Apr  2 23:29:52 2003
 Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 557295
   Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
 /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
 Wed Apr  2 23:31:11 2003
 Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 557296
 Checkpoint not complete
   Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
 /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
 Wed Apr  2 23:31:50 2003
 
   In that exact time, everything freezes and the
 database is dead until a new redolog can be used.
 
   I have 3 redologs 50 Mb each. I've read that the
 error is because too much data is trying to get into
 the redologs and all of them are full, Oracle does
 not have the time to reuse a redolog and has to wait
 until the redolog is ready to be reused. 
 
   So the solution seems to make these redolog files
 bigger or to create new ones. What are the side
 effects of one or the other? will performance under
 normal work be penalised?
 
 ..
 Fermín Bernaus Berraondo
 Dpto. de Informática
 SAMMIC, S.A.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.sammic.com
 Telf. +34 - 943 157 331
 Fax +34 - 943 151 276
 ..
 
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RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-04 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Fermin
   I would definitely go for your second configuration. I don't think there
is a problem with several redo logs on the same device, since Oracle is only
writing to one log at a time. Actually, if I could devote two devices to
redo logs, I would mirror the redo logs. You can easily recover from the
loss of a data file, but not easily from the loss of an online redo log. And
while we're on the subject, mirror your control files as well.
   The problem I've experienced with placing redo logs on the same device is
data files is that when your database experiences a really large number of
transactions, Oracle is trying desperately to write changed data blocks to
disk at the same time it is trying to write redo data. At some point, Oracle
can't service new transactions until something completes. From the outside
you experience this as a freeze. In this situation I find it very handy to
submit a STATSPACK snapshot, or run a query that will reveal the system wait
events. 
   You've received a lot of excellent advice on this subject from some
really excellent people (and so-so advice from me). I would highly recommend
that you print all the replies and study them to understand what these
people are really saying.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 4:14 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



So do you think the following distribution will contribute to a
better performance:

data datafiles - device a
index datafiles - device b
redolog1 - device c
redolog2 - device d
redolog3 - device c

instead of:

data datafiles - device a
index datafiles - device b
redolog1 - device c
redolog2 - device d
redolog3 - device a

Because I only have 5 devices available.



-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de Connor
McDonald
Enviado el: viernes, 04 de abril de 2003 11:49
Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Asunto: RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete


Its not really a particular redo log that is the
issue.  You've used up redo's (say) 1, 2, 3 and you
want to cycle around to 1 but the checkpoint that
would free up  redo 1 is not yet finished.

Thus its not a single redo log that is the problem -
the IO rate of the checkpoint is not sufficient quick
to avoid the redo cycling around...If one of your
redo's is on common datafile disk, this could
contribute to this

hth
connor

 --- Fermin Bernaus Berraondo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  
   Dennis,
 
   This is our actual distribution:
 
   Datafiles belonging to data in a separate disk,
 name it /baandata
   Datafiles belonging to index in a separate disk,
 name it /baanindex
 
   And 3 redolog files, two of them in another two
 separate disks, and the third one located in the
 same device as the data files (/baandata).
 
   All of them are mirrored disks.
 
   Your comment makes sense, but if keeping datafiles
 and one of the redolog files in the same device
 should affect performance, then I wonder why the
 cannot allocate new log, checkpoint not complete
 message is affecting to the 3 redolog files and not
 only to the one located in that datafile device.
 
   I did not think on this. Anyway I have no more
 disks in which I can split the redologs...
 
   I can not wait for your comments!
 
   Regards,
 
 Fermin.
 
 -Mensaje original-
 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 nombre de DENNIS
 WILLIAMS
 Enviado el: jueves, 03 de abril de 2003 17:04
 Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Asunto: RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not
 complete
 
 
 Fermin - Connor's reply sparked an idea. By any
 chance do you have your redo
 logs on the same device as your data files? 
 
 Dennis Williams
 DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:04 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Basically as the message suggests the redo cannot be
 recycled until the checkpoint has completed flushing
 out the cache.  
 
 A *workaround* is to add redo log (size or number)
 but
 its really a heads-up about your I/O subsystem not
 being up to keep up under stress.
 
 hth
 connor
 
  --- Fermin Bernaus Berraondo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:  
  I think I am having problems with my redologs.
  Under normal circumstances no errors arise, but if
 I
  do a massive import of data as I was doing last
  night, this is what alertSID.log shows from time
 to
  time:
  
  Wed Apr  2 23:29:52 2003
  Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 557295
Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
  /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
  Wed Apr  2 23:31:11 2003
  Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 557296
  Checkpoint not complete
Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
  /baandata/oradata/baan

Re: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-03 Thread Connor McDonald
Basically as the message suggests the redo cannot be
recycled until the checkpoint has completed flushing
out the cache.  

A *workaround* is to add redo log (size or number) but
its really a heads-up about your I/O subsystem not
being up to keep up under stress.

hth
connor

 --- Fermin Bernaus Berraondo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  
   I think I am having problems with my redologs.
 Under normal circumstances no errors arise, but if I
 do a massive import of data as I was doing last
 night, this is what alertSID.log shows from time to
 time:
 
 Wed Apr  2 23:29:52 2003
 Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 557295
   Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
 /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
 Wed Apr  2 23:31:11 2003
 Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 557296
 Checkpoint not complete
   Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
 /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
 Wed Apr  2 23:31:50 2003
 
   In that exact time, everything freezes and the
 database is dead until a new redolog can be used.
 
   I have 3 redologs 50 Mb each. I've read that the
 error is because too much data is trying to get into
 the redologs and all of them are full, Oracle does
 not have the time to reuse a redolog and has to wait
 until the redolog is ready to be reused. 
 
   So the solution seems to make these redolog files
 bigger or to create new ones. What are the side
 effects of one or the other? will performance under
 normal work be penalised?
 
 ..
 Fermín Bernaus Berraondo
 Dpto. de Informática
 SAMMIC, S.A.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-03 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Fermin - Connor's reply sparked an idea. By any chance do you have your redo
logs on the same device as your data files? 

Dennis Williams
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Basically as the message suggests the redo cannot be
recycled until the checkpoint has completed flushing
out the cache.  

A *workaround* is to add redo log (size or number) but
its really a heads-up about your I/O subsystem not
being up to keep up under stress.

hth
connor

 --- Fermin Bernaus Berraondo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  
   I think I am having problems with my redologs.
 Under normal circumstances no errors arise, but if I
 do a massive import of data as I was doing last
 night, this is what alertSID.log shows from time to
 time:
 
 Wed Apr  2 23:29:52 2003
 Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 557295
   Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
 /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
 Wed Apr  2 23:31:11 2003
 Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 557296
 Checkpoint not complete
   Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
 /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
 Wed Apr  2 23:31:50 2003
 
   In that exact time, everything freezes and the
 database is dead until a new redolog can be used.
 
   I have 3 redologs 50 Mb each. I've read that the
 error is because too much data is trying to get into
 the redologs and all of them are full, Oracle does
 not have the time to reuse a redolog and has to wait
 until the redolog is ready to be reused. 
 
   So the solution seems to make these redolog files
 bigger or to create new ones. What are the side
 effects of one or the other? will performance under
 normal work be penalised?
 
 ..
 Fermín Bernaus Berraondo
 Dpto. de Informática
 SAMMIC, S.A.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.sammic.com
 Telf. +34 - 943 157 331
 Fax +34 - 943 151 276
 ..
 
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RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-03 Thread Fermin Bernaus Berraondo

I dissagree, they will be bigger but there will be less of them. If the amount 
of processed data does not change, I do not think changing the size of the redolog 
files should affect the total amount fo bytes to be backeup up

Thanks for the recommendation anyway ;)

Cheers,

Fermin.

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Asunto: AW: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete


Hi

I would suggest to increase the redo log size. Doesn't effect you during
daily operation, but prevents the database from hanging during nightly
batches. No side effects I can think of (except for the fact that, of
course, it will take you longer to backup the archived logs since the files
are bigger, duh ;).

Good luck
Stefan

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I think I am having problems with my redologs. Under normal
circumstances no errors arise, but if I do a massive import of data as I was
doing last night, this is what alertSID.log shows from time to time:

Wed Apr  2 23:29:52 2003
Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 557295
  Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0: /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
Wed Apr  2 23:31:11 2003
Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 557296
Checkpoint not complete
  Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0: /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
Wed Apr  2 23:31:50 2003

In that exact time, everything freezes and the database is dead
until a new redolog can be used.

I have 3 redologs 50 Mb each. I've read that the error is because
too much data is trying to get into the redologs and all of them are full,
Oracle does not have the time to reuse a redolog and has to wait until the
redolog is ready to be reused. 

So the solution seems to make these redolog files bigger or to
create new ones. What are the side effects of one or the other? will
performance under normal work be penalised?

..
Fermín Bernaus Berraondo
Dpto. de Informática
SAMMIC, S.A.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Telf. +34 - 943 157 331
Fax +34 - 943 151 276
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RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-03 Thread JayMiller
Correct.

The only potential disadvantage is that recovery will take longer when
bringing up the database after a crash.


Jay Miller

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I dissagree, they will be bigger but there will be less of them. If
the amount of processed data does not change, I do not think changing the
size of the redolog files should affect the total amount fo bytes to be
backeup up

Thanks for the recommendation anyway ;)

Cheers,

Fermin.

-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de Stefan Jahnke
Enviado el: jueves, 03 de abril de 2003 15:44
Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Asunto: AW: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete


Hi

I would suggest to increase the redo log size. Doesn't effect you during
daily operation, but prevents the database from hanging during nightly
batches. No side effects I can think of (except for the fact that, of
course, it will take you longer to backup the archived logs since the files
are bigger, duh ;).

Good luck
Stefan

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I think I am having problems with my redologs. Under normal
circumstances no errors arise, but if I do a massive import of data as I was
doing last night, this is what alertSID.log shows from time to time:

Wed Apr  2 23:29:52 2003
Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 557295
  Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0: /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
Wed Apr  2 23:31:11 2003
Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 557296
Checkpoint not complete
  Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0: /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
Wed Apr  2 23:31:50 2003

In that exact time, everything freezes and the database is dead
until a new redolog can be used.

I have 3 redologs 50 Mb each. I've read that the error is because
too much data is trying to get into the redologs and all of them are full,
Oracle does not have the time to reuse a redolog and has to wait until the
redolog is ready to be reused. 

So the solution seems to make these redolog files bigger or to
create new ones. What are the side effects of one or the other? will
performance under normal work be penalised?

..
Fermín Bernaus Berraondo
Dpto. de Informática
SAMMIC, S.A.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-03 Thread Connor McDonald
Not necessarily depending on how you've set
log_checkpoint_... or the new parameters related to
bounded recovery time.

hth
connor

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Correct.
 
 The only potential disadvantage is that recovery
 will take longer when
 bringing up the database after a crash.
 
 
 Jay Miller
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:39 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
   I dissagree, they will be bigger but there will be
 less of them. If
 the amount of processed data does not change, I do
 not think changing the
 size of the redolog files should affect the total
 amount fo bytes to be
 backeup up
 
   Thanks for the recommendation anyway ;)
 
   Cheers,
 
 Fermin.
 
 -Mensaje original-
 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 nombre de Stefan Jahnke
 Enviado el: jueves, 03 de abril de 2003 15:44
 Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Asunto: AW: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not
 complete
 
 
 Hi
 
 I would suggest to increase the redo log size.
 Doesn't effect you during
 daily operation, but prevents the database from
 hanging during nightly
 batches. No side effects I can think of (except for
 the fact that, of
 course, it will take you longer to backup the
 archived logs since the files
 are bigger, duh ;).
 
 Good luck
 Stefan
 
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 complete
 
 
 
   I think I am having problems with my redologs.
 Under normal
 circumstances no errors arise, but if I do a massive
 import of data as I was
 doing last night, this is what alertSID.log shows
 from time to time:
 
 Wed Apr  2 23:29:52 2003
 Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 557295
   Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
 /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
 Wed Apr  2 23:31:11 2003
 Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 557296
 Checkpoint not complete
   Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0:
 /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
 Wed Apr  2 23:31:50 2003
 
   In that exact time, everything freezes and the
 database is dead
 until a new redolog can be used.
 
   I have 3 redologs 50 Mb each. I've read that the
 error is because
 too much data is trying to get into the redologs and
 all of them are full,
 Oracle does not have the time to reuse a redolog and
 has to wait until the
 redolog is ready to be reused. 
 
   So the solution seems to make these redolog files
 bigger or to
 create new ones. What are the side effects of one or
 the other? will
 performance under normal work be penalised?
 
 ..
 Fermín Bernaus Berraondo
 Dpto. de Informática
 SAMMIC, S.A.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.sammic.com
 Telf. +34 - 943 157 331
 Fax +34 - 943 151 276
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RE: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete

2003-04-03 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)
There are some other effects I can think of.

Up to you if these are important / significant to your users.

If you make them bigger and you have a standby database then the standby might end up 
being further behind production (unless you have a script to workaround this) and also 
in this case you may then not get the files transferring successfully (depends on your 
network etc).

Also, if you make them bigger and you have a loss of all redo logs (hopefully unlikely 
if they are mirrored on mirrored disks) then you will lose more data as it will be a 
longer period of time since the last archive log was created.

And what about your archive log management scripts - do they keep x days worth of 
files (in which case the volume of archive log on disk will not change) or do they 
keep y files - in this case the volume of disks would increase unless the script(s) 
are altered.

Regards,
Bruce Reardon

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Correct.

The only potential disadvantage is that recovery will take longer when
bringing up the database after a crash.


Jay Miller

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Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



I dissagree, they will be bigger but there will be less of them. If
the amount of processed data does not change, I do not think changing the
size of the redolog files should affect the total amount fo bytes to be
backeup up

Thanks for the recommendation anyway ;)

Cheers,

Fermin.

-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de Stefan Jahnke
Enviado el: jueves, 03 de abril de 2003 15:44
Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Asunto: AW: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete


Hi

I would suggest to increase the redo log size. Doesn't effect you during
daily operation, but prevents the database from hanging during nightly
batches. No side effects I can think of (except for the fact that, of
course, it will take you longer to backup the archived logs since the files
are bigger, duh ;).

Good luck
Stefan

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Von: Fermin Bernaus Berraondo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. April 2003 10:04
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Betreff: Cannot allocate new log - checkpoint not complete



I think I am having problems with my redologs. Under normal
circumstances no errors arise, but if I do a massive import of data as I was
doing last night, this is what alertSID.log shows from time to time:

Wed Apr  2 23:29:52 2003
Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 557295
  Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0: /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
Wed Apr  2 23:31:11 2003
Thread 1 cannot allocate new log, sequence 557296
Checkpoint not complete
  Current log# 3 seq# 557295 mem# 0: /baandata/oradata/baan/redobaan03.log
Wed Apr  2 23:31:50 2003

In that exact time, everything freezes and the database is dead
until a new redolog can be used.

I have 3 redologs 50 Mb each. I've read that the error is because
too much data is trying to get into the redologs and all of them are full,
Oracle does not have the time to reuse a redolog and has to wait until the
redolog is ready to be reused. 

So the solution seems to make these redolog files bigger or to
create new ones. What are the side effects of one or the other? will
performance under normal work be penalised?

..
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