RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-05-16 Thread Rao, Maheswara

I also monitored the processes and found that alert.log file is constantly
accessed at least by one Oracle process during a period of one hour
continuous monitoring.

Hence, my conclusions:

1. By removing alert.log, the space would not be reclaimed by the disk on
Unix machines immediately until you bounce the db.
2. Perhaps, on rare occasions, the space is reclaimed by the disk without
bouncing the db.  But this, in my opinion, is a rarity.

Thanks,

Rao

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I tried the 'alien' weapon - fuser - against the alert.log file.  There
are 18 oracle processes accessing it.  A simple rm will delete the file
handle but apparently not actually release the space without bouncing the
database.

Lesson learned. And, that's my limit for today.


Pete Barnett
Oracle Database Administrator
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On Tue, 15 May 2001, Rajaram wrote:

 Look like this message did not get thru.. sending again. Pl. Ignore if
 repeat


 1. Space occupied by alert.log is freed once you delete the file.

 2. You may not see an immediate reclamation of free space. Try to do sync
(
 In solaris) and notice the free space.  Also, try more than one method of
 free space checking - Using du, bdf, sam or sysadmin tools.



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 From: Rao, Maheswara [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:50 PM
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 Subject:  RE: cdump, bdump, udump

 Terry,

 I tested this again now.  I removed alert.log and then checked disk usage.
 It did not release the disk space.  Then I bounced the db.  Now, the disk
 space is released.

 Environment: Solaris 7, 64 bit. Oracle 817.

 Rao

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 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:36 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

 On Solaris 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7, as well as AIX we have removed the alert.log
 and
 space has immediately become free.  (Not true with the listener.log
 however).

 Terry

 Rao, Maheswara wrote:

  Ron,
 
  You would not be able free the disk space even if alert.log is deleted.
 For
  example, if alert.log file size is 500 MB size and then you delete the
  alert.log, still you would not be able to get a disk free space of 500
 MB.
  This space would be released once you bounce the database.
 
  The above scenario is similar even if you copy alert.log to a different
  location and then delete the rows.
 
  The above scenario applies to Solaris environment.  I do not know what
  happens in NT environment.
 
  Rao
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:39 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
  Team,
  Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with
 the
  database up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and
 writes
  to a non existant file that you can't see. The proper method of
 reducing
  the file size is to copy the file to a backup location, and edit the
  original and delete rows from the file. OR if you do not need to keep
the
  original log for analysis you could copu /dev/null  alert.log.
  Just a house keeping note.
  ROR ma?am
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
  Sinardy,
 
  First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle
  documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM
  emails, and some flaming as well.
 
  Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written
 to
  every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the
  database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown
 and
  startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database
  (failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp
  segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as
 well,
  I'm not going to list every one.
 
  Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process
 --
  anything generated by smon, pmon, etc
 
  Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes
 
  Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in
 the
  bdump directory.
 
  Rachel
 
  From: Sinardy Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: cdump, bdump, udump
  Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:40:27 -0800
  
  Hi all,
  
  When those logs will created ?
  
  Thank you
  
  Sinardy
  
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2001 9:41 AM
  To: LazyDBA mailing list
  
  
  Hi DBAs and SAs,
  
  I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
  What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
  directory
 cdump,
 bdump and
 udump
  for ?
  


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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-05-15 Thread Rao, Maheswara

Ron,

You would not be able free the disk space even if alert.log is deleted. For
example, if alert.log file size is 500 MB size and then you delete the
alert.log, still you would not be able to get a disk free space of 500 MB.
This space would be released once you bounce the database.

The above scenario is similar even if you copy alert.log to a different
location and then delete the rows.

The above scenario applies to Solaris environment.  I do not know what
happens in NT environment.

Rao

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-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Team,
Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with the
database up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and writes
to a non existant file that you can't see. The proper method of reducing
the file size is to copy the file to a backup location, and edit the
original and delete rows from the file. OR if you do not need to keep the
original log for analysis you could copu /dev/null  alert.log.
Just a house keeping note.
ROR mª¿ªm

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
Sinardy,

First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle
documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM
emails, and some flaming as well.

Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written to
every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the
database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown and
startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database
(failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp
segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as well,
I'm not going to list every one.

Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process --
anything generated by smon, pmon, etc

Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes

Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in the
bdump directory.


Rachel

From: Sinardy Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: cdump, bdump, udump
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:40:27 -0800

Hi all,

When those logs will created ?

Thank you

Sinardy


-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2001 9:41 AM
To: LazyDBA mailing list


Hi DBAs and SAs,

I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
directory
   cdump,
   bdump and
   udump
for ?


Thank you for your time

Sinardy




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Re: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-05-15 Thread Terry Ball

On Solaris 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7, as well as AIX we have removed the alert.log and
space has immediately become free.  (Not true with the listener.log however).

Terry

Rao, Maheswara wrote:

 Ron,

 You would not be able free the disk space even if alert.log is deleted. For
 example, if alert.log file size is 500 MB size and then you delete the
 alert.log, still you would not be able to get a disk free space of 500 MB.
 This space would be released once you bounce the database.

 The above scenario is similar even if you copy alert.log to a different
 location and then delete the rows.

 The above scenario applies to Solaris environment.  I do not know what
 happens in NT environment.

 Rao

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:39 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

 Team,
 Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with the
 database up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and writes
 to a non existant file that you can't see. The proper method of reducing
 the file size is to copy the file to a backup location, and edit the
 original and delete rows from the file. OR if you do not need to keep the
 original log for analysis you could copu /dev/null  alert.log.
 Just a house keeping note.
 ROR mª¿ªm

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
 Sinardy,

 First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle
 documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM
 emails, and some flaming as well.

 Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written to
 every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the
 database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown and
 startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database
 (failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp
 segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as well,
 I'm not going to list every one.

 Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process --
 anything generated by smon, pmon, etc

 Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes

 Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in the
 bdump directory.

 Rachel

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 Subject: RE: cdump, bdump, udump
 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:40:27 -0800
 
 Hi all,
 
 When those logs will created ?
 
 Thank you
 
 Sinardy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2001 9:41 AM
 To: LazyDBA mailing list
 
 
 Hi DBAs and SAs,
 
 I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
 What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
 directory
cdump,
bdump and
udump
 for ?
 
 
 Thank you for your time
 
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Re: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-05-15 Thread Peter Barnett

The space is freed when the process accessing the file ends.  In the case 
of the alert.log, it is accessed infrequently.  The listener.log is 
constantly being updated on an active database and may not release as 
quickly.

There are Unix commands which will show the pid accessing each file, 
including those supposedly deleted, but it has been a long time since I 
was a sys admin.  Maybe one of the listers has the command. 


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On Tue, 15 May 2001, Terry Ball wrote:

 On Solaris 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7, as well as AIX we have removed the alert.log and
 space has immediately become free.  (Not true with the listener.log however).
 
 Terry
 
 Rao, Maheswara wrote:
 
  Ron,
 
  You would not be able free the disk space even if alert.log is deleted. For
  example, if alert.log file size is 500 MB size and then you delete the
  alert.log, still you would not be able to get a disk free space of 500 MB.
  This space would be released once you bounce the database.
 
  The above scenario is similar even if you copy alert.log to a different
  location and then delete the rows.
 
  The above scenario applies to Solaris environment.  I do not know what
  happens in NT environment.
 
  Rao
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:39 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
  Team,
  Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with the
  database up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and writes
  to a non existant file that you can't see. The proper method of reducing
  the file size is to copy the file to a backup location, and edit the
  original and delete rows from the file. OR if you do not need to keep the
  original log for analysis you could copu /dev/null  alert.log.
  Just a house keeping note.
  ROR mª¿ªm
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
  Sinardy,
 
  First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle
  documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM
  emails, and some flaming as well.
 
  Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written to
  every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the
  database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown and
  startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database
  (failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp
  segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as well,
  I'm not going to list every one.
 
  Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process --
  anything generated by smon, pmon, etc
 
  Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes
 
  Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in the
  bdump directory.
 
  Rachel
 
  From: Sinardy Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: cdump, bdump, udump
  Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:40:27 -0800
  
  Hi all,
  
  When those logs will created ?
  
  Thank you
  
  Sinardy
  
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2001 9:41 AM
  To: LazyDBA mailing list
  
  
  Hi DBAs and SAs,
  
  I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
  What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
  directory
 cdump,
 bdump and
 udump
  for ?
  
  
  Thank you for your time
  
  Sinardy
  
  
  
  
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Re: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-05-15 Thread Jared Still

On Tuesday 15 May 2001 11:36, Thater, William wrote:
 On Tue, 15 May 2001,Peter Barnett scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

 -There are Unix commands which will show the pid accessing each file,
 -including those supposedly deleted, but it has been a long time since I
 -was a sys admin.  Maybe one of the listers has the command.

 Man fuser

That sounds supiciously like some type of alien equipment issued as
standard equipment to Earth bound ships.  ;)

Jared
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Re: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-05-15 Thread Terry Ball

Do you have frequest writes to your alert log?  If you try to remove will it is
being written to, it will not release the space.  We tend to remove our logs
during periods of low acitivity, so the file is not likely to be being written
to.  So we have not seen the space not released.

Terry

Rao, Maheswara wrote:

 Terry,

 I tested this again now.  I removed alert.log and then checked disk usage.
 It did not release the disk space.  Then I bounced the db.  Now, the disk
 space is released.

 Environment: Solaris 7, 64 bit. Oracle 817.

 Rao

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:36 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

 On Solaris 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7, as well as AIX we have removed the alert.log
 and
 space has immediately become free.  (Not true with the listener.log
 however).

 Terry

 Rao, Maheswara wrote:

  Ron,
 
  You would not be able free the disk space even if alert.log is deleted.
 For
  example, if alert.log file size is 500 MB size and then you delete the
  alert.log, still you would not be able to get a disk free space of 500 MB.
  This space would be released once you bounce the database.
 
  The above scenario is similar even if you copy alert.log to a different
  location and then delete the rows.
 
  The above scenario applies to Solaris environment.  I do not know what
  happens in NT environment.
 
  Rao
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:39 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
  Team,
  Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with
 the
  database up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and
 writes
  to a non existant file that you can't see. The proper method of reducing
  the file size is to copy the file to a backup location, and edit the
  original and delete rows from the file. OR if you do not need to keep the
  original log for analysis you could copu /dev/null  alert.log.
  Just a house keeping note.
  ROR mª¿ªm
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
  Sinardy,
 
  First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle
  documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM
  emails, and some flaming as well.
 
  Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written
 to
  every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the
  database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown and
  startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database
  (failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp
  segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as
 well,
  I'm not going to list every one.
 
  Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process --
  anything generated by smon, pmon, etc
 
  Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes
 
  Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in
 the
  bdump directory.
 
  Rachel
 
  From: Sinardy Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: cdump, bdump, udump
  Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:40:27 -0800
  
  Hi all,
  
  When those logs will created ?
  
  Thank you
  
  Sinardy
  
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2001 9:41 AM
  To: LazyDBA mailing list
  
  
  Hi DBAs and SAs,
  
  I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
  What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
  directory
 cdump,
 bdump and
 udump
  for ?
  
  
  Thank you for your time
  
  Sinardy
  
  
  
  
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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-05-15 Thread Rajaram


1. Space occupied by alert.log is freed once you delete the file.

2. You may not see an immediate reclamation of free space. Try to do sync ( 
In solaris) and notice the free space.  Also, try more than one method of 
free space checking - Using du, bdf, sam or sysadmin tools.



-Original Message-
From:   Rao, Maheswara [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:50 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:RE: cdump, bdump, udump

Terry,

I tested this again now.  I removed alert.log and then checked disk usage.
It did not release the disk space.  Then I bounced the db.  Now, the disk
space is released.

Environment: Solaris 7, 64 bit. Oracle 817.

Rao

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:36 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

On Solaris 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7, as well as AIX we have removed the alert.log
and
space has immediately become free.  (Not true with the listener.log
however).

Terry

Rao, Maheswara wrote:

 Ron,

 You would not be able free the disk space even if alert.log is deleted.
For
 example, if alert.log file size is 500 MB size and then you delete the
 alert.log, still you would not be able to get a disk free space of 500 
MB.
 This space would be released once you bounce the database.

 The above scenario is similar even if you copy alert.log to a different
 location and then delete the rows.

 The above scenario applies to Solaris environment.  I do not know what
 happens in NT environment.

 Rao

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:39 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

 Team,
 Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with
the
 database up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and
writes
 to a non existant file that you can't see. The proper method of 
reducing
 the file size is to copy the file to a backup location, and edit the
 original and delete rows from the file. OR if you do not need to keep the
 original log for analysis you could copu /dev/null  alert.log.
 Just a house keeping note.
 ROR ma?am

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
 Sinardy,

 First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle
 documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM
 emails, and some flaming as well.

 Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written
to
 every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the
 database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown 
and
 startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database
 (failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp
 segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as
well,
 I'm not going to list every one.

 Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process 
--
 anything generated by smon, pmon, etc

 Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes

 Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in
the
 bdump directory.

 Rachel

 From: Sinardy Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: cdump, bdump, udump
 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:40:27 -0800
 
 Hi all,
 
 When those logs will created ?
 
 Thank you
 
 Sinardy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2001 9:41 AM
 To: LazyDBA mailing list
 
 
 Hi DBAs and SAs,
 
 I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
 What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
 directory
cdump,
bdump and
udump
 for ?
 


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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-05-15 Thread Rao, Maheswara

OK.  I would test this.  scheduled a cron to run in the night to remove
alert.log (of course after copying!!).

Rao

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Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:55 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Do you have frequest writes to your alert log?  If you try to remove will it
is
being written to, it will not release the space.  We tend to remove our logs
during periods of low acitivity, so the file is not likely to be being
written
to.  So we have not seen the space not released.

Terry

Rao, Maheswara wrote:

 Terry,

 I tested this again now.  I removed alert.log and then checked disk usage.
 It did not release the disk space.  Then I bounced the db.  Now, the disk
 space is released.

 Environment: Solaris 7, 64 bit. Oracle 817.

 Rao

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:36 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

 On Solaris 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7, as well as AIX we have removed the alert.log
 and
 space has immediately become free.  (Not true with the listener.log
 however).

 Terry

 Rao, Maheswara wrote:

  Ron,
 
  You would not be able free the disk space even if alert.log is deleted.
 For
  example, if alert.log file size is 500 MB size and then you delete the
  alert.log, still you would not be able to get a disk free space of 500
MB.
  This space would be released once you bounce the database.
 
  The above scenario is similar even if you copy alert.log to a different
  location and then delete the rows.
 
  The above scenario applies to Solaris environment.  I do not know what
  happens in NT environment.
 
  Rao
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:39 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
  Team,
  Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with
 the
  database up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and
 writes
  to a non existant file that you can't see. The proper method of
reducing
  the file size is to copy the file to a backup location, and edit the
  original and delete rows from the file. OR if you do not need to keep
the
  original log for analysis you could copu /dev/null  alert.log.
  Just a house keeping note.
  ROR mª¿ªm
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
  Sinardy,
 
  First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle
  documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM
  emails, and some flaming as well.
 
  Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written
 to
  every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the
  database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown
and
  startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database
  (failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp
  segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as
 well,
  I'm not going to list every one.
 
  Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process
--
  anything generated by smon, pmon, etc
 
  Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes
 
  Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in
 the
  bdump directory.
 
  Rachel
 
  From: Sinardy Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: cdump, bdump, udump
  Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:40:27 -0800
  
  Hi all,
  
  When those logs will created ?
  
  Thank you
  
  Sinardy
  
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2001 9:41 AM
  To: LazyDBA mailing list
  
  
  Hi DBAs and SAs,
  
  I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
  What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
  directory
 cdump,
 bdump and
 udump
  for ?
  
  
  Thank you for your time
  
  Sinardy
  
  
  
  
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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-05-15 Thread Vadim Gorbounov

Rao, I didnt follow this thread from the beginnig, but if you primary task
is to release disk space, try
echo  alert.log (or cat /dev/null  listener.log) instead of rm. 
HTH
Vadim Gorbounov
Oracle DBA


-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:50 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Terry,

I tested this again now.  I removed alert.log and then checked disk usage.
It did not release the disk space.  Then I bounced the db.  Now, the disk
space is released.

Environment: Solaris 7, 64 bit. Oracle 817.

Rao

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:36 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

On Solaris 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7, as well as AIX we have removed the alert.log
and
space has immediately become free.  (Not true with the listener.log
however).

Terry

Rao, Maheswara wrote:

 Ron,

 You would not be able free the disk space even if alert.log is deleted.
For
 example, if alert.log file size is 500 MB size and then you delete the
 alert.log, still you would not be able to get a disk free space of 500 MB.
 This space would be released once you bounce the database.

 The above scenario is similar even if you copy alert.log to a different
 location and then delete the rows.

 The above scenario applies to Solaris environment.  I do not know what
 happens in NT environment.

 Rao

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:39 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

 Team,
 Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with
the
 database up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and
writes
 to a non existant file that you can't see. The proper method of reducing
 the file size is to copy the file to a backup location, and edit the
 original and delete rows from the file. OR if you do not need to keep the
 original log for analysis you could copu /dev/null  alert.log.
 Just a house keeping note.
 ROR mª¿ªm

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
 Sinardy,

 First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle
 documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM
 emails, and some flaming as well.

 Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written
to
 every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the
 database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown and
 startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database
 (failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp
 segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as
well,
 I'm not going to list every one.

 Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process --
 anything generated by smon, pmon, etc

 Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes

 Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in
the
 bdump directory.

 Rachel

 From: Sinardy Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: cdump, bdump, udump
 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:40:27 -0800
 
 Hi all,
 
 When those logs will created ?
 
 Thank you
 
 Sinardy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2001 9:41 AM
 To: LazyDBA mailing list
 
 
 Hi DBAs and SAs,
 
 I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
 What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
 directory
cdump,
bdump and
udump
 for ?
 
 
 Thank you for your time
 
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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-05-15 Thread Rajaram

Look like this message did not get thru.. sending again. Pl. Ignore if 
repeat


1. Space occupied by alert.log is freed once you delete the file.

2. You may not see an immediate reclamation of free space. Try to do sync ( 
In solaris) and notice the free space.  Also, try more than one method of 
free space checking - Using du, bdf, sam or sysadmin tools.



-Original Message-
From:   Rao, Maheswara [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:50 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:RE: cdump, bdump, udump

Terry,

I tested this again now.  I removed alert.log and then checked disk usage.
It did not release the disk space.  Then I bounced the db.  Now, the disk
space is released.

Environment: Solaris 7, 64 bit. Oracle 817.

Rao

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:36 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

On Solaris 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7, as well as AIX we have removed the alert.log
and
space has immediately become free.  (Not true with the listener.log
however).

Terry

Rao, Maheswara wrote:

 Ron,

 You would not be able free the disk space even if alert.log is deleted.
For
 example, if alert.log file size is 500 MB size and then you delete the
 alert.log, still you would not be able to get a disk free space of 500 
MB.
 This space would be released once you bounce the database.

 The above scenario is similar even if you copy alert.log to a different
 location and then delete the rows.

 The above scenario applies to Solaris environment.  I do not know what
 happens in NT environment.

 Rao

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:39 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

 Team,
 Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with
the
 database up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and
writes
 to a non existant file that you can't see. The proper method of 
reducing
 the file size is to copy the file to a backup location, and edit the
 original and delete rows from the file. OR if you do not need to keep the
 original log for analysis you could copu /dev/null  alert.log.
 Just a house keeping note.
 ROR ma?am

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
 Sinardy,

 First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle
 documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM
 emails, and some flaming as well.

 Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written
to
 every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the
 database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown 
and
 startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database
 (failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp
 segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as
well,
 I'm not going to list every one.

 Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process 
--
 anything generated by smon, pmon, etc

 Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes

 Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in
the
 bdump directory.

 Rachel

 From: Sinardy Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: cdump, bdump, udump
 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:40:27 -0800
 
 Hi all,
 
 When those logs will created ?
 
 Thank you
 
 Sinardy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2001 9:41 AM
 To: LazyDBA mailing list
 
 
 Hi DBAs and SAs,
 
 I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
 What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
 directory
cdump,
bdump and
udump
 for ?
 


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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-05-15 Thread Peter Barnett

I tried the 'alien' weapon - fuser - against the alert.log file.  There 
are 18 oracle processes accessing it.  A simple rm will delete the file 
handle but apparently not actually release the space without bouncing the 
database.

Lesson learned. And, that's my limit for today.


Pete Barnett
Oracle Database Administrator
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On Tue, 15 May 2001, Rajaram wrote:

 Look like this message did not get thru.. sending again. Pl. Ignore if 
 repeat
 
 
 1. Space occupied by alert.log is freed once you delete the file.
 
 2. You may not see an immediate reclamation of free space. Try to do sync ( 
 In solaris) and notice the free space.  Also, try more than one method of 
 free space checking - Using du, bdf, sam or sysadmin tools.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rao, Maheswara [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:50 PM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  RE: cdump, bdump, udump
 
 Terry,
 
 I tested this again now.  I removed alert.log and then checked disk usage.
 It did not release the disk space.  Then I bounced the db.  Now, the disk
 space is released.
 
 Environment: Solaris 7, 64 bit. Oracle 817.
 
 Rao
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:36 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 On Solaris 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7, as well as AIX we have removed the alert.log
 and
 space has immediately become free.  (Not true with the listener.log
 however).
 
 Terry
 
 Rao, Maheswara wrote:
 
  Ron,
 
  You would not be able free the disk space even if alert.log is deleted.
 For
  example, if alert.log file size is 500 MB size and then you delete the
  alert.log, still you would not be able to get a disk free space of 500 
 MB.
  This space would be released once you bounce the database.
 
  The above scenario is similar even if you copy alert.log to a different
  location and then delete the rows.
 
  The above scenario applies to Solaris environment.  I do not know what
  happens in NT environment.
 
  Rao
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:39 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
  Team,
  Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with
 the
  database up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and
 writes
  to a non existant file that you can't see. The proper method of 
 reducing
  the file size is to copy the file to a backup location, and edit the
  original and delete rows from the file. OR if you do not need to keep the
  original log for analysis you could copu /dev/null  alert.log.
  Just a house keeping note.
  ROR ma?am
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
  Sinardy,
 
  First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle
  documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM
  emails, and some flaming as well.
 
  Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written
 to
  every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the
  database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown 
 and
  startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database
  (failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp
  segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as
 well,
  I'm not going to list every one.
 
  Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process 
 --
  anything generated by smon, pmon, etc
 
  Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes
 
  Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in
 the
  bdump directory.
 
  Rachel
 
  From: Sinardy Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: cdump, bdump, udump
  Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:40:27 -0800
  
  Hi all,
  
  When those logs will created ?
  
  Thank you
  
  Sinardy
  
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2001 9:41 AM
  To: LazyDBA mailing list
  
  
  Hi DBAs and SAs,
  
  I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
  What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
  directory
 cdump,
 bdump and
 udump
  for ?
  
 
 
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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-05-14 Thread Brian MacLean
Title: RE: cdump, bdump, udump





I used to be of the same school of thought as you. But on Solaris 2.7 with Oracle v8.1.7 I have seen the various processes hang on to the old log for days if I mv alertSID.log alertSID.log.old ; touch alertSID.log


7113:oracle@e6500a ls -Fla /dw01/app/oracle/admin/BART/bdump/alert_BART.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 oracle oinstall 484498 May 14 16:12 /dw01/app/oracle/admin/BART/bdump/alert_BART.log


7113:oracle@e6500a fuser /dw01/app/oracle/admin/BART/bdump/alert_BART.log
/dw01/app/oracle/admin/BART/bdump/alert_BART.log: 28913o 28911o 28909o 28907o 28905o 28902o 28900o 28898o 28896o

7113:oracle@e6500a ps -ef | egrep PID|28913|28911|28909|28907|28905|28902|28900|28898|28896 | grep -v grep
 UID PID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD
 oracle 28898 1 0 15:55:56 ? 0:00 ora_dbw0_BART
 oracle 28905 1 0 15:55:57 ? 0:00 ora_smon_BART
 oracle 28911 1 0 15:55:58 ? 0:00 ora_p000_BART
 oracle 28909 1 0 15:55:57 ? 0:00 ora_arc0_BART
 oracle 28907 1 0 15:55:57 ? 0:00 ora_reco_BART
 oracle 28902 1 0 15:55:56 ? 0:00 ora_ckpt_BART
 oracle 28913 1 0 15:55:58 ? 0:00 ora_p001_BART
 oracle 28900 1 0 15:55:56 ? 0:00 ora_lgwr_BART
 oracle 28896 1 0 15:55:56 ? 0:00 ora_pmon_BART




-Original Message-
From: Terry Ball [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 1:32 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: cdump, bdump, udump



With the alert.log you are incorrect. Oracle only get a handle on the file when it writes to it. The rest of the time, it does not need nor keep a handle on the alert.log. You can move or delete the file and neither Oracle nor the OS care. A new alert.log will be created as soon as Oracle needs to write to one.

Terry


Ron Rogers wrote:


 Team,
 Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with the database up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and writes to a non existant file that you can't see. The proper method of reducing the file size is to copy the file to a backup location, and edit the original and delete rows from the file. OR if you do not need to keep the original log for analysis you could copu /dev/null  alert.log.

 Just a house keeping note.
 ROR mª¿ªm

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
 Sinardy,

 First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle
 documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM
 emails, and some flaming as well.

 Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written to
 every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the
 database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown and
 startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database
 (failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp
 segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as well,
 I'm not going to list every one.

 Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process --
 anything generated by smon, pmon, etc

 Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes

 Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in the
 bdump directory.

 Rachel

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 Hi all,
 
 When those logs will created ?
 
 Thank you
 
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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-25 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi All,

Thank you Rachel, David, Christopher and all DBAs and SAs

May I know where to find documents that explain all those stuff with some
information how managed them
I tried ora816 document, but no much info there. It only tells the
description, I also read my initSID.ora.


Thank you for your time

Sinardy


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Sinardy,

First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle
documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM
emails, and some flaming as well.

Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written to
every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the
database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown and
startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database
(failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp
segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as well,
I'm not going to list every one.

Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process --
anything generated by smon, pmon, etc

Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes

Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in the
bdump directory.


Rachel

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Hi all,

When those logs will created ?

Thank you

Sinardy


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Hi DBAs and SAs,

I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
directory
   cdump,
   bdump and
   udump
for ?


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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-25 Thread Ron Rogers

Team,
Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with the database 
up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and writes to a non existant 
file that you can't see. The proper method of reducing the file size is to copy the 
file to a backup location, and edit the original and delete rows from the file. OR if 
you do not need to keep the original log for analysis you could copu /dev/null  
alert.log.
Just a house keeping note.
ROR mª¿ªm

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
Sinardy,

First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle 
documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM 
emails, and some flaming as well.

Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written to 
every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the 
database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown and 
startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database 
(failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp 
segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as well, 
I'm not going to list every one.

Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process -- 
anything generated by smon, pmon, etc

Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes

Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in the 
bdump directory.


Rachel

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Hi all,

When those logs will created ?

Thank you

Sinardy


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Hi DBAs and SAs,

I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
directory
   cdump,
   bdump and
   udump
for ?


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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-25 Thread Miller, Jay

Nope.
That's the way the listener.log works, but the alert log will be recreated
if deleted or moved.

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Team,
Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with the
database up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and writes
to a non existant file that you can't see. The proper method of reducing
the file size is to copy the file to a backup location, and edit the
original and delete rows from the file. OR if you do not need to keep the
original log for analysis you could copu /dev/null  alert.log.
Just a house keeping note.
ROR mª¿ªm

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
Sinardy,

First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle 
documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM 
emails, and some flaming as well.

Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written to 
every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the 
database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown and 
startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database 
(failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp 
segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as well, 
I'm not going to list every one.

Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process -- 
anything generated by smon, pmon, etc

Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes

Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in the

bdump directory.


Rachel

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Hi all,

When those logs will created ?

Thank you

Sinardy


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I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
directory
   cdump,
   bdump and
   udump
for ?


Thank you for your time

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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-25 Thread Rodd Holman

Yep,
Oracle just keeps on chugging along.  When it needs to write to the alert log
it will create a new one if it needs to.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Ron Rogers
wrote:  Team,
 Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with the 
database up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and writes to a non 
existant file that you can't see. The proper method of reducing the file size is to 
copy the file to a backup location, and edit the original and delete rows from the 
file. OR if you do not need to keep the original log for analysis you could copu 
/dev/null  alert.log.
 Just a house keeping note.
 ROR mª¿ªm
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
 Sinardy,
 
 First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle 
 documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM 
 emails, and some flaming as well.
 
 Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written to 
 every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the 
 database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown and 
 startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database 
 (failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp 
 segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as well, 
 I'm not going to list every one.
 
 Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process -- 
 anything generated by smon, pmon, etc
 
 Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes
 
 Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in the 
 bdump directory.
 
 
 Rachel
 
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 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:40:27 -0800
 
 Hi all,
 
 When those logs will created ?
 
 Thank you
 
 Sinardy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2001 9:41 AM
 To: LazyDBA mailing list
 
 
 Hi DBAs and SAs,
 
 I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
 What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
 directory
  cdump,
  bdump and
  udump
 for ?
 
 
 Thank you for your time
 
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Re: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-25 Thread Bill Gentry

It seems to work different for me.  For the last 2 years, I have been
deleting the old file and a new one appears with the very next message to be
written.

Bill Gentry
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Team,
Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with the
database up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and writes
to a non existant file that you can't see. The proper method of reducing
the file size is to copy the file to a backup location, and edit the
original and delete rows from the file. OR if you do not need to keep the
original log for analysis you could copu /dev/null  alert.log.
Just a house keeping note.
ROR mª¿ªm

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
Sinardy,

First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle
documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM
emails, and some flaming as well.

Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written to
every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the
database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown and
startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database
(failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp
segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as well,
I'm not going to list every one.

Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process --
anything generated by smon, pmon, etc

Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes

Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in the
bdump directory.


Rachel

From: Sinardy Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: cdump, bdump, udump
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:40:27 -0800

Hi all,

When those logs will created ?

Thank you

Sinardy


-Original Message-
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Hi DBAs and SAs,

I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
directory
 cdump,
 bdump and
 udump
for ?


Thank you for your time

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Re: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-25 Thread Terry Ball

I tend to agree with you.  I feel MUCH more comfortable reading paper.

Terry

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 Wow. I feel just the opposite. When I had the paper docs, I could
 take one on the train, take it home, know what I read, feel like
 I'd accomplished something when I'd read a chunk, etc. I had a
 relationship with the books, my tuning guide had a corner bent, the
 app dev guide was missing a cover.

 With this electronic stuff, I can't 'sit down and study', I find
 its hard to get a feel of what I should read because it all looks
 and feels the same.

 I really miss the hard copy docs.

 My two pence.

 Yosi

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  read the tuning guide and the administrators guide.
 
  nowadays this is a valid answer now that oracle docs are
  online, NO ONE
  HAS AN EXCUSE to not read the docs unlike back in the days
  when you had
  to pay thousands of dollars for paper docs.
 
  joe
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   I am working in SUN solaris 5.6 with Oracle 8i.  I want to implement
   MTS on the Oracle server.  Next we are running with Rule based
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   I want to know what are the advantages we get on this and
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   steps to implement this?
  
   Any help is grateful...
  
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Re: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-25 Thread Terry Ball

With the alert.log you are incorrect.  Oracle only get a handle on the file when it 
writes to it.  The rest of the time, it does not need nor keep a handle on the 
alert.log.  You can move or delete the file and neither Oracle nor the OS care.  A new 
alert.log will be created as soon as Oracle needs to write to one.

Terry

Ron Rogers wrote:

 Team,
 Correct me if I am wrong, please.. If you delete the alert.log file with the 
database up and running, the oracle still thinks the file exists and writes to a non 
existant file that you can't see. The proper method of reducing the file size is to 
copy the file to a backup location, and edit the original and delete rows from the 
file. OR if you do not need to keep the original log for analysis you could copu 
/dev/null  alert.log.
 Just a house keeping note.
 ROR mª¿ªm

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 09:21AM 
 Sinardy,

 First, I suggest you find some time and sit down and READ the Oracle
 documentation. Otherwise you are going to get a large number of RTFM
 emails, and some flaming as well.

 Now.. the alert log is created (if it does not already exist) or written to
 every time Oracle wants to record an event that has happened in the
 database/instance. So log switches will be in there, database shutdown and
 startup messages, errors dealing with the infrastructure of the database
 (failure to extend a rollback segment, failure to get space in the temp
 segment, disasterous database errors etc) There are other messages as well,
 I'm not going to list every one.

 Bdump contains trace files that relate to the Oracle background process --
 anything generated by smon, pmon, etc

 Udump contains trace files that relate to specific user Oracle processes

 Cdump contains core dumps, associated with one or another trace files in the
 bdump directory.

 Rachel

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 When those logs will created ?
 
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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Venkat_Kalepalli
Title: RE: cdump, bdump, udump





Hello folks!


I am working in SUN solaris 5.6 with Oracle 8i. I want to implement MTS on the Oracle server. Next we are running with Rule based optimizer and we want to change to costbased optimizer.

I want to know what are the advantages we get on this and what are the steps to implement this? 


Any help is grateful...


Rgd
Venkat
DBA.






RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi all,

When those logs will created ?

Thank you

Sinardy


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udump
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Re: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Joseph S. Testa

read the tuning guide and the administrators guide.

nowadays this is a valid answer now that oracle docs are online, NO ONE
HAS AN EXCUSE to not read the docs unlike back in the days when you had
to pay thousands of dollars for paper docs.

joe
 Venkat_Kalepalli wrote:
 
 Hello folks!
 
 I am working in SUN solaris 5.6 with Oracle 8i.  I want to implement
 MTS on the Oracle server.  Next we are running with Rule based
 optimizer and we want to change to costbased optimizer.
 
 I want to know what are the advantages we get on this and what are the
 steps to implement this?
 
 Any help is grateful...
 
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 Venkat
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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Lanteigne, Mike

I must be 'old' because I miss my paper docs. I still print out some of the
pdf docs, must be a confort thing!

Mike

The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official position
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 read the tuning guide and the administrators guide.
 
 nowadays this is a valid answer now that oracle docs are online, NO ONE
 HAS AN EXCUSE to not read the docs unlike back in the days when you had
 to pay thousands of dollars for paper docs.
 
 joe
  Venkat_Kalepalli wrote:
  
  Hello folks!
  
  I am working in SUN solaris 5.6 with Oracle 8i.  I want to implement
  MTS on the Oracle server.  Next we are running with Rule based
  optimizer and we want to change to costbased optimizer.
  
  I want to know what are the advantages we get on this and what are the
  steps to implement this?
  
  Any help is grateful...
  
  Rgd
  Venkat
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Re: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread David A. Barbour

Sinardy,

Some logs are generated by default (alert_SID.log) but actions
triggering entries can be adjusted through either initialization
parameters in the initSID.ora file, via commands issued by the DBA, or
by users who have been granted specific privileges/roles (commands like
ALTER DATABASE, ALTER SESSION and the dbms_trace package come to mind
here).

If you were able to get the doc on OFA, you now need to go and get the
docs on Initialization Parameters and Oracle Supplied Packages as a
minimum. 

Regards,

David A. Barbour
Oracle DBA

Sinardy Xing wrote:
 
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 When those logs will created ?
 
 Thank you
 
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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Yosi

Wow. I feel just the opposite. When I had the paper docs, I could
take one on the train, take it home, know what I read, feel like
I'd accomplished something when I'd read a chunk, etc. I had a
relationship with the books, my tuning guide had a corner bent, the
app dev guide was missing a cover. 

With this electronic stuff, I can't 'sit down and study', I find
its hard to get a feel of what I should read because it all looks
and feels the same.

I really miss the hard copy docs.

My two pence.

Yosi


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 nowadays this is a valid answer now that oracle docs are 
 online, NO ONE
 HAS AN EXCUSE to not read the docs unlike back in the days 
 when you had
 to pay thousands of dollars for paper docs.
 
 joe
  Venkat_Kalepalli wrote:
  
  Hello folks!
  
  I am working in SUN solaris 5.6 with Oracle 8i.  I want to implement
  MTS on the Oracle server.  Next we are running with Rule based
  optimizer and we want to change to costbased optimizer.
  
  I want to know what are the advantages we get on this and 
 what are the
  steps to implement this?
  
  Any help is grateful...
  
  Rgd
  Venkat
  DBA.
 
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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Gogala, Mladen

I'm taking yoga classes and being much happier and less cynical, I'm
much less inclined to reply with RTFM, despite the fact that this 
question more then deserves such an answer.

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Check your initSID.ora file and check out OTN /*+ SEARCH ON OFA */

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 I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Mohan, Ross
Title: RE: cdump, bdump, udump





karma, prana, hatha, or ayurvedic yoga?


Most people just think of hatha yoga when
they talk about it. 


Ross


p.s. let me know when you can do the Royal Pigeon


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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Thater, William

On Tue, 24 Apr 2001,[EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-Wow. I feel just the opposite. When I had the paper docs, I could
-take one on the train, take it home, know what I read, feel like
-I'd accomplished something when I'd read a chunk, etc. I had a
-relationship with the books, my tuning guide had a corner bent, the
-app dev guide was missing a cover.
-
-With this electronic stuff, I can't 'sit down and study', I find
-its hard to get a feel of what I should read because it all looks
-and feels the same.
-
-I really miss the hard copy docs.
-
-My two pence.
-
-Yosi

maybe someone should convert them to Palm DOC format and we can load
them on our Palms to carry with us *everywhere*.;-)

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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Eric D. Pierce

what's wrong with your printer? 

what's wrong with just spending a bunch of money on hardcopy
documentation like you used to do




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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Oh, my god! I think that I should return to my beloved threadmill

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karma, prana, hatha, or ayurvedic yoga? 

Most people just think of hatha yoga when 
they talk about it. 

Ross 

p.s.  let me know when you can do the Royal Pigeon 

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|| I'm taking yoga classes and being much happier and less cynical, I'm 
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||  cdump, 
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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Eric D. Pierce

Does everybody else need to wear a really big hat?

On 24 Apr 2001, at 10:15, Mohan, Ross wrote:


 p.s.  let me know when you can do the Royal Pigeon

...


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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Yosi

Printer's not the same. I understand this is all ethereal, 
but it's not the same. I've got a collection of the docs in
big black looseleaf binders with a label I printed on the
side that says which book it is.

It's not as carriable as a smaller book, (try opening one
of those on a subway...) and all the books look alike -
since all the looseleafs are identical. (Maybe I should
get colored looseleafs...)

As for buying the books - no way management wants to pay
for them any more than Oracle does. And that's probably
justifiable.

I'll live - I just liked the hardcopy way better.


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 what's wrong with your printer? 
 
 what's wrong with just spending a bunch of money on hardcopy
 documentation like you used to do
 
 
 
 
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 ...
  With this electronic stuff, I can't 'sit down and study', I find
  its hard to get a feel of what I should read because it all looks
  and feels the same.
  
  I really miss the hard copy docs.
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Re: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Jared Still

On Tuesday 24 April 2001 09:15, Gogala, Mladen wrote:
 I'm taking yoga classes and being much happier and less cynical, I'm
 much less inclined to reply with RTFM, despite the fact that this
 question more then deserves such an answer.

Really?  I thought you might engage in a little Greco Roman 
wrestling to get the aggression out.  :)

Jared

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OT RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Mohan, Ross
Title: OT RE: cdump, bdump, udump





LoL! No, but it is hellaciously hard
to do. And extremely rewarding!


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|| Does everybody else need to wear a really big hat?
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|| 
||  p.s. let me know when you can do the Royal Pigeon
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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Ed . Haskins

Yeah, as soon as Palm increases the amount of Memory to something like 1GB.

;-)

Ed Haskins
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Verizon Wireless





maybe someone should convert them to Palm DOC format and we can load
them on our Palms to carry with us *everywhere*.;-)

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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Thater, William

On Tue, 24 Apr 2001,[EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled on the wall in...:

-Yeah, as soon as Palm increases the amount of Memory to something like 1GB.
-
-;-)
-
-Ed Haskins
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handspring should have a new module out soon with a minidrive, should be
about 4GB.;-)

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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Gogala, Mladen

That is true, Tim. Rest rooms are much more convenient for emergencies
then a palm pilot. 

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Everywhere?  Not where I do my heavy reading.  Palm pilots are a poor
substitute for emergency T.P.8-)



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 12:31PM 
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001,[EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled on the wall in glitter
crayon:

-Wow. I feel just the opposite. When I had the paper docs, I could
-take one on the train, take it home, know what I read, feel like
-I'd accomplished something when I'd read a chunk, etc. I had a
-relationship with the books, my tuning guide had a corner bent, the
-app dev guide was missing a cover.
-
-With this electronic stuff, I can't 'sit down and study', I find
-its hard to get a feel of what I should read because it all looks
-and feels the same.
-
-I really miss the hard copy docs.
-
-My two pence.
-
-Yosi

maybe someone should convert them to Palm DOC format and we can load
them on our Palms to carry with us *everywhere*.;-)

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Re: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-23 Thread David A. Barbour

Uh oh - here's one for Mladen.  Sinardy, have you ever heard of OFA? 
Check your initSID.ora file and check out OTN /*+ SEARCH ON OFA */

David A. Barbour
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Sinardy Xing wrote:
 
 Hi DBAs and SAs,
 
 I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
 What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
 directory
 cdump,
 bdump and
 udump
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 Thank you for your time
 
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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-23 Thread Sinardy Xing

Thank You

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Uh oh - here's one for Mladen.  Sinardy, have you ever heard of OFA? 
Check your initSID.ora file and check out OTN /*+ SEARCH ON OFA */

David A. Barbour
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Sinardy Xing wrote:
 
 Hi DBAs and SAs,
 
 I had a task to do housekeep ...\bdump\alertSID.log
 What logs usually Oracle system need to housekeep, and what are these
 directory
 cdump,
 bdump and
 udump
 for ?
 
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