RE: functions/procedures and commits
Hi John Dunn, My answer is never commit, Oracle will rollback. Are you consider auto commit an implicitly commitment? Sinardy -Original Message- Sent: 02 January 2003 22:14 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Under what circumstances is a COMMIT done implicitly? If I call a function or procedure that performs an insert, but does not do a commit, will a commit be implicitly performed when the function ends? i.e. is ... begin INSERT INTO ... etc. end; the same as begin insert_the_record; end; where insert_the_record is a procedure that does the insert, but nothing else. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Sinardy Xing INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: functions/procedures and commits
if I recall correctly, implicit commits are done a) on a clean exit from sqlplus b) on a clean exit from a stored program c) if you do a DDL statement after the DML statement but this is from memory and without checking manuals. --- John Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under what circumstances is a COMMIT done implicitly? If I call a function or procedure that performs an insert, but does not do a commit, will a commit be implicitly performed when the function ends? i.e. is ... begin INSERT INTO ... etc. end; the same as begin insert_the_record; end; where insert_the_record is a procedure that does the insert, but nothing else. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: functions/procedures and commits
Title: RE: functions/procedures and commits No ... an implicit commit is performed 1. If you perform any DDL statement 2. If SQLPLUS you exit without issuing an explicit ROLLBACK. Otherwise, your transaction will remain open awaiting for an explicit commit or rollback. Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- From: John Dunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: functions/procedures and commits Under what circumstances is a COMMIT done implicitly? If I call a function or procedure that performs an insert, but does not do a commit, will a commit be implicitly performed when the function ends? i.e. is ... begin INSERT INTO ... etc. end; the same as begin insert_the_record; end; where insert_the_record is a procedure that does the insert, but nothing else. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1
RE: functions/procedures and commits
John, there is no such thing as an implicit commit within Oracle. the only implicit commit that I know of is during a sqlplus session when you exit the program. even this is settable by a sqlplus option. distributed transactions that are controlled by a transaction coordinator (like MS DTC) might issue commits only because the web application requires all updates to be handled by the app-server. but this is different from what you are asking, I think. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Under what circumstances is a COMMIT done implicitly? If I call a function or procedure that performs an insert, but does not do a commit, will a commit be implicitly performed when the function ends? i.e. is ... begin INSERT INTO ... etc. end; the same as begin insert_the_record; end; where insert_the_record is a procedure that does the insert, but nothing else. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: functions/procedures and commits
Title: Message Or if you set autocommit, in which case a commit is issued every X number of operations. John P WeathermanOracle Database AdministratorReplacements, Ltd. -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:29 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: functions/procedures and commits No ... an implicit commit is performed 1. If you perform any DDL statement 2. If SQLPLUS you exit without issuing an explicit ROLLBACK. Otherwise, your transaction will remain open awaiting for an explicit commit or rollback. Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- From: John Dunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: functions/procedures and commits Under what circumstances is a COMMIT done implicitly? If I call a function or procedure that performs an insert, but does not do a commit, will a commit be implicitly performed when the function ends? i.e. is ... begin INSERT INTO ... etc. end; the same as begin insert_the_record; end; where insert_the_record is a procedure that does the insert, but nothing else. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: functions/procedures and commits
Tom, Oracle issues an implicit commit any time DDL is performed or when a quit/exit is issued (Complete Ref p285) or after a set number of commands by using a set autocommit # (Complete Ref 283). With the latter is arguably not truly an implicit commit, as you do set it, DDL most certainly is. FWIW, John P Weatherman Oracle Database Administrator Replacements, Ltd. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L John, there is no such thing as an implicit commit within Oracle. the only implicit commit that I know of is during a sqlplus session when you exit the program. even this is settable by a sqlplus option. distributed transactions that are controlled by a transaction coordinator (like MS DTC) might issue commits only because the web application requires all updates to be handled by the app-server. but this is different from what you are asking, I think. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Under what circumstances is a COMMIT done implicitly? If I call a function or procedure that performs an insert, but does not do a commit, will a commit be implicitly performed when the function ends? i.e. is ... begin INSERT INTO ... etc. end; the same as begin insert_the_record; end; where insert_the_record is a procedure that does the insert, but nothing else. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Weatherman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: functions/procedures and commits
Tom, I must respectfully disagree. Explicit = a COMMIT or ROLLBACK is explicitly issued by the user/program. Implicit = a COMMIT or ROLLBACK is performed as the result of an action and not issued by the user/program. The SQL*Plus options AUTOCOMMIT and COPYCOMMIT do not control EXIT behavior. For the EXIT/QUIT commands, the default behavior is COMMIT. With WHENEVER OSERROR or SQLERROR, the behavior can also be altered to perform a COMMIT or ROLLBACK. Is there another option you are thinking of? COMMIT or ROLLBACK is tied very closely to TRANSACTIONs. In order to start a new transaction, the previous transaction must end. A COMMIT indicates a succesful end, while a ROLLBACK indicates a failure. Please keep in mind that this is not always coded in this manner, i.e. unhandled exceptions in PL/SQL followed by COMMIT in calling procs. DDL exists as a separate transaction. In order to start the DDL transaction, the previous transaction must end. Oracle terminates the previous transaction by COMMITting the changes and begins a new tx. I used a small anonymous PL/SQL block to test COMMIT/ROLLBACK behavior. I found it to be consistent with how I left SQL*Plus. If I killed the window, the change was not committed. If I typed 'EXIT', the change was committed. Dan Fink -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L John, there is no such thing as an implicit commit within Oracle. the only implicit commit that I know of is during a sqlplus session when you exit the program. even this is settable by a sqlplus option. distributed transactions that are controlled by a transaction coordinator (like MS DTC) might issue commits only because the web application requires all updates to be handled by the app-server. but this is different from what you are asking, I think. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Under what circumstances is a COMMIT done implicitly? If I call a function or procedure that performs an insert, but does not do a commit, will a commit be implicitly performed when the function ends? i.e. is ... begin INSERT INTO ... etc. end; the same as begin insert_the_record; end; where insert_the_record is a procedure that does the insert, but nothing else. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Fink, Dan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: functions/procedures and commits
Title: Message The behavior of this may have changed... but I have seen autocommit not work as advertised. Just my opinion but I think explicit commits are good practice, if nothing else just for ease of reading code. Lisa Koivu Oracle Database Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 5259 Coconut Creek Parkway Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 33063 -Original Message-From: John Weatherman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:41 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: functions/procedures and commits Or if you set autocommit, in which case a commit is issued every X number of operations. John P WeathermanOracle Database AdministratorReplacements, Ltd. -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:29 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: functions/procedures and commits No ... an implicit commit is performed 1. If you perform any DDL statement 2. If SQLPLUS you exit without issuing an explicit ROLLBACK. Otherwise, your transaction will remain open awaiting for an explicit commit or rollback. Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- From: John Dunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: functions/procedures and commits Under what circumstances is a COMMIT done implicitly? If I call a function or procedure that performs an insert, but does not do a commit, will a commit be implicitly performed when the function ends? i.e. is ... begin INSERT INTO ... etc. end; the same as begin insert_the_record; end; where insert_the_record is a procedure that does the insert, but nothing else. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: functions/procedures and commits
Dan, I agree with you and I think I said the same thing - though not as lengthy! :) As you said, the Sql*Plus AutoCommit option controls issuing a commit upon exiting the program. As I said in a prior mail, I did not mention DDL forcing an implicit commit as the question pertained to INSERT statements. At least I got people answering the question! :) Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Tom, I must respectfully disagree. Explicit = a COMMIT or ROLLBACK is explicitly issued by the user/program. Implicit = a COMMIT or ROLLBACK is performed as the result of an action and not issued by the user/program. The SQL*Plus options AUTOCOMMIT and COPYCOMMIT do not control EXIT behavior. For the EXIT/QUIT commands, the default behavior is COMMIT. With WHENEVER OSERROR or SQLERROR, the behavior can also be altered to perform a COMMIT or ROLLBACK. Is there another option you are thinking of? COMMIT or ROLLBACK is tied very closely to TRANSACTIONs. In order to start a new transaction, the previous transaction must end. A COMMIT indicates a succesful end, while a ROLLBACK indicates a failure. Please keep in mind that this is not always coded in this manner, i.e. unhandled exceptions in PL/SQL followed by COMMIT in calling procs. DDL exists as a separate transaction. In order to start the DDL transaction, the previous transaction must end. Oracle terminates the previous transaction by COMMITting the changes and begins a new tx. I used a small anonymous PL/SQL block to test COMMIT/ROLLBACK behavior. I found it to be consistent with how I left SQL*Plus. If I killed the window, the change was not committed. If I typed 'EXIT', the change was committed. Dan Fink -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L John, there is no such thing as an implicit commit within Oracle. the only implicit commit that I know of is during a sqlplus session when you exit the program. even this is settable by a sqlplus option. distributed transactions that are controlled by a transaction coordinator (like MS DTC) might issue commits only because the web application requires all updates to be handled by the app-server. but this is different from what you are asking, I think. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Under what circumstances is a COMMIT done implicitly? If I call a function or procedure that performs an insert, but does not do a commit, will a commit be implicitly performed when the function ends? i.e. is ... begin INSERT INTO ... etc. end; the same as begin insert_the_record; end; where insert_the_record is a procedure that does the insert, but nothing else. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Fink, Dan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:
RE: functions/procedures and commits
AUTOCOMMIT controls COMMITs after execution of individual DML statements, not upon EXITing SQL*Plus. The point I want to make is that IMPLICIT COMMITs ROLLBACKs do occur. I have encountered the following scenario more than once... 'Oracle is not saving changes' is the complaint from the users. In looking at the code, and having confidence that Oracle does not randomly decide to not commit (barring a bug that I have yet to encounter, though possible), I see that the process is performing multiple DML statements. One of the statements fails, but the error is not trapped, and the program performs a graceful exit (COMMITting the changes without the command COMMIT being issued). I also recall from several years ago, that Forms always issued a ROLLBACK when leaving the Form. If you did not explicitly code a COMMIT, an IMPLICIT (to you) ROLLBACK was performed. Dan Fink -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 11:24 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dan, I agree with you and I think I said the same thing - though not as lengthy! :) As you said, the Sql*Plus AutoCommit option controls issuing a commit upon exiting the program. As I said in a prior mail, I did not mention DDL forcing an implicit commit as the question pertained to INSERT statements. At least I got people answering the question! :) Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Tom, I must respectfully disagree. Explicit = a COMMIT or ROLLBACK is explicitly issued by the user/program. Implicit = a COMMIT or ROLLBACK is performed as the result of an action and not issued by the user/program. The SQL*Plus options AUTOCOMMIT and COPYCOMMIT do not control EXIT behavior. For the EXIT/QUIT commands, the default behavior is COMMIT. With WHENEVER OSERROR or SQLERROR, the behavior can also be altered to perform a COMMIT or ROLLBACK. Is there another option you are thinking of? COMMIT or ROLLBACK is tied very closely to TRANSACTIONs. In order to start a new transaction, the previous transaction must end. A COMMIT indicates a succesful end, while a ROLLBACK indicates a failure. Please keep in mind that this is not always coded in this manner, i.e. unhandled exceptions in PL/SQL followed by COMMIT in calling procs. DDL exists as a separate transaction. In order to start the DDL transaction, the previous transaction must end. Oracle terminates the previous transaction by COMMITting the changes and begins a new tx. I used a small anonymous PL/SQL block to test COMMIT/ROLLBACK behavior. I found it to be consistent with how I left SQL*Plus. If I killed the window, the change was not committed. If I typed 'EXIT', the change was committed. Dan Fink -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:10 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L John, there is no such thing as an implicit commit within Oracle. the only implicit commit that I know of is during a sqlplus session when you exit the program. even this is settable by a sqlplus option. distributed transactions that are controlled by a transaction coordinator (like MS DTC) might issue commits only because the web application requires all updates to be handled by the app-server. but this is different from what you are asking, I think. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Under what circumstances is a COMMIT done implicitly? If I call a function or procedure that performs an insert, but does not do a commit, will a commit be implicitly performed when the function ends? i.e. is ... begin INSERT INTO ... etc. end; the same as begin insert_the_record; end; where insert_the_record is a procedure that does the insert, but nothing else. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this
