Re: nomount

2001-12-11 Thread orantdba

Hi Saj,

I just tried at least 4 on 8.1.7

v$instance
v$sga
v$sgastat
v$parameter

There are probably more,  don't know where the two number is coming from.

John

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Hi

Anyone now which 2 V$ views can be accessed while in nomount mode ?

Also what is a tempfile ?

TIA

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RE: nomount

2001-12-11 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: nomount





Is this some sort of OCP test for us listers??


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Hi


Anyone now which 2 V$ views can be accessed while in nomount mode ?


Also what is a tempfile ?


TIA


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RE: nomount

2001-12-11 Thread Mark Leith

lol looks like it eh?

I know that you can view v$instance while the database is not mounted - not
sure about the other one..

And - straight from the Oracle Concepts Manual (page 126)

Locally managed temporary tablespaces have temporary datafiles (tempfiles),
which
are similar to ordinary datafiles except that:

Tempfiles are always set to NOLOGGING mode.
You cannot make a tempfile read-only.
You cannot rename a tempfile.
You cannot create a tempfile with the ALTER DATABASE statement.
Media recovery does not recognize tempfiles:
 – BACKUP CONTROLFILE does not generate any information for tempfiles.
 – CREATE CONTROLFILE cannot specify any information about tempfiles.
Tempfile information is shown in the dictionary view DBA_TEMP_FILES and the
dynamic performance view V$TEMPFILE, but not in DBA_DATA_FILES or the
V$DATAFILE view.

Looks like I failed my OCP :P

Mark

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Also what is a tempfile ?
TIA
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RE: nomount

2001-12-11 Thread David Ehresmann

v$parameter
v$sga
v$option
v$process
v$session
v$version
v$instance

nomount stage, right from my Oracle Admin book published by Oracle.

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 Anyone now which 2 V$ views can be accessed while in nomount mode ?
 
 Also what is a tempfile ?
 
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Re: nomount

2001-12-11 Thread Mujeeb Chowdhry



Hi,

Views that can be read in the nomount stage are: 
v$parameter, v$sga, v$option, v$process, v$session, v$version and 
v$instance.
And tempfile is latest method of defining Oracle database temporary files 
for Temp tablespaces.

Mujeeb Chowdhry
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RE: nomount

2001-12-11 Thread Sajid Iqbal


No, these are questions I have been asked but couldn't readily find the
information on... so I thought someone out there must know :-)

Regards

Saj


On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Mark Leith wrote:

 lol looks like it eh?
 
 I know that you can view v$instance while the database is not mounted - not
 sure about the other one..
 
 And - straight from the Oracle Concepts Manual (page 126)
 
 Locally managed temporary tablespaces have temporary datafiles (tempfiles),
 which
 are similar to ordinary datafiles except that:
 
 Tempfiles are always set to NOLOGGING mode.
 You cannot make a tempfile read-only.
 You cannot rename a tempfile.
 You cannot create a tempfile with the ALTER DATABASE statement.
 Media recovery does not recognize tempfiles:
  – BACKUP CONTROLFILE does not generate any information for tempfiles.
  – CREATE CONTROLFILE cannot specify any information about tempfiles.
 Tempfile information is shown in the dictionary view DBA_TEMP_FILES and the
 dynamic performance view V$TEMPFILE, but not in DBA_DATA_FILES or the
 V$DATAFILE view.
 
 Looks like I failed my OCP :P
 
 Mark
 
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RE: nomount

2001-12-11 Thread Kevin Lange

And you believed  it ?

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v$parameter
v$sga
v$option
v$process
v$session
v$version
v$instance

nomount stage, right from my Oracle Admin book published by Oracle.

David Ehresmann
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