RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT

2002-07-02 Thread Grabowy, Chris

My sincere and humble apologies to Rachel, if my earlier email has offended
her.  That was not the intention.  I believe myself and others that tease
and pick on Rachel, do it out of respect and love for her, and would never
intentionally mean to offend her.

I do not know about other locations and cultures, but in my office we
constantly pick and tease on each other.  It is those who are never teased
that have to worry...

If I offend you then please do not hesitate to email me privately or
publicly.

sarcasm
From now on I will just pick on Jared...
/sarcasm

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:03 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Personal attacks certainly don't belong here.

Best not do it at all.

Jared

On Wednesday 26 June 2002 19:28, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 YO! JARED! has this gotten off-topic yet? since when is picking on
 Rachel part of the on topic list???

 --- Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Chris, feel blessed, she stays during all of mine and asks bizarre
  questions :),
 
  like:  If 2 control files are being updated at the same time and one
  is
  on raid-5 and the other on raid 0+1, which one will be finished
  updating
  first.
 
  joe
 
  Grabowy, Chris wrote:
  Matt, she walked out in the middle of your presentation??
  
  Your lucky.  She walked out of mine at the beginning, shaking her
 
  head.  Oh
 
  well...
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:40 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  well, if so, I'll finally get to see you present and won't have to
 
  walk
 
  out in the middle
  
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
  lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a
  little sparse on details.
  
  
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:50 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  But Mtt... you were always scheduled at either the
  same
  time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to yours, I
  get
  stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted to
 
  see
 
  equally as much were there.
  
  Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at 5, I
  have to leave around 2:30 or so
  
  
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  But Rachel, you never came to any of my
  presentations!  (in my best whiney voice)
  
  At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
  
  or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
  
  he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship him
  
  :)
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  Actually, I had to miss this years (even though I was orginally
  schedule
  to give two presentations)  due to a medical situation.  I gave
  
  four
  
  the
  year
  before that.
  
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:09 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
  OK.  As the DBA Focus Area Manager for the IOUG, we do our best
  
  to
  
  weed out
  the fluff.  If you were at IOUG this year, you should have
  
  noticed
  
  a
  
  significant reduction in the marketing fluff and more technical
  content.
  Yes, some showmanship is necessary when giving a presentation,
  
  but
  
  the
  content has to be there.
  
  
  
  Many people on this forum have submitted presentations to my
  
  track
  
  and then
  complained that they were not accepted.  Let me give you some
  concrete
  numbers.  This year, we received over 400 abstracts for the DBA
  
  track
  
  alone
  and accepted only 80.  If one slips through the cracks, it won't
  
  a
  
  second
  time.  Believe me when I say that 2002 was the best
  
  content-organized
  
  IOUG.
  
  
  
  
  Further comments?  Submit an abstract for 2003 and find out!!!
  
  
  
  Thank You
  
  
  
  Stephen P. Karniotis
  
  Product Architect
  
  Compuware Corporation
  
  Direct:   (248) 865-4350
  
  Mobile:  (248) 408-2918

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RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT

2002-07-02 Thread Jared . Still

You just can't forget about that dbms_output/trigger thing, can you?   ;)

Jared





Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT


My sincere and humble apologies to Rachel, if my earlier email has 
offended
her.  That was not the intention.  I believe myself and others that tease
and pick on Rachel, do it out of respect and love for her, and would never
intentionally mean to offend her.

I do not know about other locations and cultures, but in my office we
constantly pick and tease on each other.  It is those who are never teased
that have to worry...

If I offend you then please do not hesitate to email me privately or
publicly.

sarcasm
From now on I will just pick on Jared...
/sarcasm

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:03 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Personal attacks certainly don't belong here.

Best not do it at all.

Jared

On Wednesday 26 June 2002 19:28, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 YO! JARED! has this gotten off-topic yet? since when is picking on
 Rachel part of the on topic list???

 --- Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Chris, feel blessed, she stays during all of mine and asks bizarre
  questions :),
 
  like:  If 2 control files are being updated at the same time and one
  is
  on raid-5 and the other on raid 0+1, which one will be finished
  updating
  first.
 
  joe
 
  Grabowy, Chris wrote:
  Matt, she walked out in the middle of your presentation??
  
  Your lucky.  She walked out of mine at the beginning, shaking her
 
  head.  Oh
 
  well...
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:40 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  well, if so, I'll finally get to see you present and won't have to
 
  walk
 
  out in the middle
  
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
  lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a
  little sparse on details.
  
  
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:50 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  But Mtt... you were always scheduled at either the
  same
  time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to yours, I
  get
  stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted to
 
  see
 
  equally as much were there.
  
  Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at 5, I
  have to leave around 2:30 or so
  
  
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  But Rachel, you never came to any of my
  presentations!  (in my best whiney voice)
  
  At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
  
  or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
  
  he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship him
  
  :)
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  Actually, I had to miss this years (even though I was orginally
  schedule
  to give two presentations)  due to a medical situation.  I gave
  
  four
  
  the
  year
  before that.
  
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:09 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
  OK.  As the DBA Focus Area Manager for the IOUG, we do our best
  
  to
  
  weed out
  the fluff.  If you were at IOUG this year, you should have
  
  noticed
  
  a
  
  significant reduction in the marketing fluff and more technical
  content.
  Yes, some showmanship is necessary when giving a presentation,
  
  but
  
  the
  content has to be there.
  
  
  
  Many people on this forum have submitted presentations to my
  
  track
  
  and then
  complained that they were not accepted.  Let me give you some
  concrete
  numbers.  This year, we received over 400 abstracts for the DBA
  
  track
  
  alone
  and accepted only 80.  If one slips through the cracks, it won't
  
  a
  
  second
  time.  Believe me when I say that 2002 was the best
  
  content-organized
  
  IOUG.
  
  
  
  
  Further comments?  Submit an abstract for 2003 and find out!!!
  
  
  
  Thank You
  
  
  
  Stephen P. Karniotis
  
  Product Architect
  
  Compuware Corporation
  
  Direct:   (248) 865-4350

RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT

2002-07-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael

My note must have been missing the smiley

but you guys WERE picking on me :)  (MOO make him stop!
G)
--- Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My sincere and humble apologies to Rachel, if my earlier email has
 offended
 her.  That was not the intention.  I believe myself and others that
 tease
 and pick on Rachel, do it out of respect and love for her, and would
 never
 intentionally mean to offend her.
 
 I do not know about other locations and cultures, but in my office we
 constantly pick and tease on each other.  It is those who are never
 teased
 that have to worry...
 
 If I offend you then please do not hesitate to email me privately or
 publicly.
 
 sarcasm
 From now on I will just pick on Jared...
 /sarcasm
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:03 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 Personal attacks certainly don't belong here.
 
 Best not do it at all.
 
 Jared
 
 On Wednesday 26 June 2002 19:28, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
  YO! JARED! has this gotten off-topic yet? since when is picking on
  Rachel part of the on topic list???
 
  --- Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Chris, feel blessed, she stays during all of mine and asks
 bizarre
   questions :),
  
   like:  If 2 control files are being updated at the same time and
 one
   is
   on raid-5 and the other on raid 0+1, which one will be finished
   updating
   first.
  
   joe
  
   Grabowy, Chris wrote:
   Matt, she walked out in the middle of your presentation??
   
   Your lucky.  She walked out of mine at the beginning, shaking
 her
  
   head.  Oh
  
   well...
   
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:40 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   
   
   well, if so, I'll finally get to see you present and won't have
 to
  
   walk
  
   out in the middle
   
   
   --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   wrote:
   Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
   lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a
   little sparse on details.
   
   
   
   
   Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   We have enough youth.
   How about a fountain of intelligence?
   
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:50 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   
   
   But Mtt... you were always scheduled at either
 the
   same
   time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to
 yours, I
   get
   stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted
 to
  
   see
  
   equally as much were there.
   
   Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at
 5, I
   have to leave around 2:30 or so
   
   
   
   --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   wrote:
   But Rachel, you never came to any of my
   presentations!  (in my best whiney voice)
   
   At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
   
   
   Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   We have enough youth.
   How about a fountain of intelligence?
   
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   
   
   that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
   
   or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
   
   he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship
 him
   
   :)
   
   --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   wrote:
   Actually, I had to miss this years (even though I was
 orginally
   schedule
   to give two presentations)  due to a medical situation.  I
 gave
   
   four
   
   the
   year
   before that.
   
   
   
   Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   We have enough youth.
   How about a fountain of intelligence?
   
   
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:09 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   
   
   
   OK.  As the DBA Focus Area Manager for the IOUG, we do our
 best
   
   to
   
   weed out
   the fluff.  If you were at IOUG this year, you should have
   
   noticed
   
   a
   
   significant reduction in the marketing fluff and more
 technical
   content.
   Yes, some showmanship is necessary when giving a
 presentation,
   
   but
   
   the
   content has to be there.
   
   
   
   Many people on this forum have submitted presentations to my
   
   track
   
   and then
   complained that they were not accepted.  Let me give you some
   concrete
 
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RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT

2002-07-02 Thread Grabowy, Chris

ok, ok...were even.

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Grabowy, Chris


You just can't forget about that dbms_output/trigger thing, can you?   ;)

Jared





Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
07/02/2002 10:51 AM
Please respond to ORACLE-L

 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: 
Subject:RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT


My sincere and humble apologies to Rachel, if my earlier email has 
offended
her.  That was not the intention.  I believe myself and others that tease
and pick on Rachel, do it out of respect and love for her, and would never
intentionally mean to offend her.

I do not know about other locations and cultures, but in my office we
constantly pick and tease on each other.  It is those who are never teased
that have to worry...

If I offend you then please do not hesitate to email me privately or
publicly.

sarcasm
From now on I will just pick on Jared...
/sarcasm

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:03 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Personal attacks certainly don't belong here.

Best not do it at all.

Jared

On Wednesday 26 June 2002 19:28, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 YO! JARED! has this gotten off-topic yet? since when is picking on
 Rachel part of the on topic list???

 --- Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Chris, feel blessed, she stays during all of mine and asks bizarre
  questions :),
 
  like:  If 2 control files are being updated at the same time and one
  is
  on raid-5 and the other on raid 0+1, which one will be finished
  updating
  first.
 
  joe
 
  Grabowy, Chris wrote:
  Matt, she walked out in the middle of your presentation??
  
  Your lucky.  She walked out of mine at the beginning, shaking her
 
  head.  Oh
 
  well...
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:40 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  well, if so, I'll finally get to see you present and won't have to
 
  walk
 
  out in the middle
  
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
  lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a
  little sparse on details.
  
  
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:50 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  But Mtt... you were always scheduled at either the
  same
  time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to yours, I
  get
  stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted to
 
  see
 
  equally as much were there.
  
  Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at 5, I
  have to leave around 2:30 or so
  
  
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  But Rachel, you never came to any of my
  presentations!  (in my best whiney voice)
  
  At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
  
  or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
  
  he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship him
  
  :)
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  Actually, I had to miss this years (even though I was orginally
  schedule
  to give two presentations)  due to a medical situation.  I gave
  
  four
  
  the
  year
  before that.
  
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:09 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
  OK.  As the DBA Focus Area Manager for the IOUG, we do our best
  
  to
  
  weed out
  the fluff.  If you were at IOUG this year, you should have
  
  noticed
  
  a
  
  significant reduction in the marketing fluff and more technical
  content.
  Yes, some showmanship is necessary when giving a presentation,
  
  but
  
  the
  content has to be there.
  
  
  
  Many people on this forum have submitted presentations to my
  
  track
  
  and then
  complained that they were not accepted.  Let me give you some
  concrete
  numbers.  This year, we received over 400 abstracts for the DBA
  
  track
  
  alone
  and accepted only 80.  If one slips through the cracks, it won't
  
  a
  
  second
  time.  Believe me when I say that 2002 was the best
  
  content-organized
  
  IOUG.
  
  
  
  
  Further comments?  Submit an abstract for 2003 and find out!!!
  
  
  
  Thank You