RE: RMAN, recatalog backup set

2002-12-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael
"it is an ex-catalog, it's pushing up the bleeding daisies"


--- Stephen Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When you are not using a catalog database, the control file is your
> only
> catalog.  If you destroy all copies of it, then you have destroyed
> your
> catalog.  It's gone.  It is a late catalog.  It is no more.  (I wish
> I could
> remember the Monty Python dead parrot bit.)  That's why you must
> backup the
> control file at the end of the rman backup -- a REAL backup of the
> file
> itself, not a "to trace" backup.
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 4:49 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Hi!
>  
> RMAN 8.1.7, nocatalog option
>  
> I have two backup sets, placed on disk. Those backup sets contain
> archived
> logs.
>  
> How do I register those sets (and arch. logs they contain) in new
> controlfile?
>  
> "New controlfile" is created by "alter database backup controlfile to
> trace"
> script. So, RMAN info is nonexistant. 
>  
> Thanks,
> Vladimir Barac
> 
> 


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RE: RMAN, recatalog backup set

2002-12-20 Thread Koivu, Lisa



Yup - 
if you look at your 'backup to trace' file it says that all recovery manager 
information will be lost. 

  -Original Message-From: Stephen Lee 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 9:39 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  RMAN, recatalog backup set
  When you are not 
  using a catalog database, the control file is your only catalog.  If you 
  destroy all copies of it, then you have destroyed your catalog.  
  It's gone.  It is a late catalog.  It is no more.  (I wish I 
  could remember the Monty Python dead parrot bit.)  That's why you must 
  backup the control file at the end of the rman backup -- a REAL backup of the 
  file itself, not a "to trace" backup.
  
-Original Message-From: Vladimir Barac 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 4:49 
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
RMAN, recatalog backup set
Hi!
 
RMAN 8.1.7, nocatalog 
option
 
I have two backup sets, placed on 
disk. Those backup sets contain archived logs.
 
How do I register those sets (and 
arch. logs they contain) in new controlfile?
 
"New controlfile" is created by 
"alter database backup controlfile to trace" script. So, RMAN info is 
nonexistant. 
 
Thanks,
Vladimir 
  Barac


RE: RMAN, recatalog backup set

2002-12-20 Thread Stephen Lee



When you are not 
using a catalog database, the control file is your only catalog.  If you 
destroy all copies of it, then you have destroyed your catalog.  It's 
gone.  It is a late catalog.  It is no more.  (I wish I could 
remember the Monty Python dead parrot bit.)  That's why you must backup the 
control file at the end of the rman backup -- a REAL backup of the file itself, 
not a "to trace" backup.

  -Original Message-From: Vladimir Barac 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 4:49 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RMAN, 
  recatalog backup set
  Hi!
   
  RMAN 8.1.7, nocatalog 
  option
   
  I have two backup sets, placed on disk. 
  Those backup sets contain archived logs.
   
  How do I register those sets (and arch. 
  logs they contain) in new controlfile?
   
  "New controlfile" is created by "alter 
  database backup controlfile to trace" script. So, RMAN info is nonexistant. 
  
   
  Thanks,
  Vladimir 
Barac


RMAN, recatalog backup set

2002-12-20 Thread Vladimir Barac



Hi!
 
RMAN 8.1.7, nocatalog 
option
 
I have two backup sets, placed on disk. 
Those backup sets contain archived logs.
 
How do I register those sets (and arch. 
logs they contain) in new controlfile?
 
"New controlfile" is created by "alter 
database backup controlfile to trace" script. So, RMAN info is nonexistant. 

 
Thanks,
Vladimir 
Barac