Re: Autostarting databases

2002-11-14 Thread Yechiel Adar
Hi Bob

I took a look at the database service one of our servers.

service properties:
startup program: d:\oracle\ora816\bin\oracle.exe abcd (the sid of the
database).
startup mode = automatic.
logon as local system account.
allow service to interact with desktop.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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Check what SP is installed on the server.
This is a common problem with Y2K SP1.
Upgrade to SP2.

This is windows 2k server service pack 3

Have a look at the strtsid.cmd script which is used for
starting the instance/DB inside %ORACLE_HOME%\DATABASE.

That must be a personal custom script.
 Ive searched all my nt and win2k servers and only have a TRCFMT.cmd
 which looks like a file to format  trace files


 Let's try the simple solution first.  How about using the
 Services utility in Control Panel to check the service for
 startup =AUTO.

Yes its on auto

 Then specify the parameters that are to be
 used for startup, like pfile=xx.

Your talking about the properties window of the service?
 Where it says You can specify the parameters that apply when you start
the service from here

If so that will start the database but the setting pfile=x does not
retain. So, it seems like you can only pass that parameter,  the
pfile=xxx once

 Specify the userid
 that is supposed to start the database, preferably not the
 Administrator userid, but Oracle or a derivative of it.

So your asying I need a win2k account for the database user? Ive never
heard of that nor have seen parameters in any other configurations.

 This method has been known to work.

 RWB

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Re: Autostarting databases

2002-11-14 Thread Igor Neyman
strtSID.cmd is long gone, probably since version 8.1X

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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Read Metalink Note: 62006.1

strtSID.cmd is created when you create a service using ORADIMxx, atleast
on
NT and DB version till 8.0.x, not sure about Win2K and Oracle Server 8.1.x
and later

Regards
Naveen

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Check what SP is installed on the server.
This is a common problem with Y2K SP1.
Upgrade to SP2.

This is windows 2k server service pack 3

Have a look at the strtsid.cmd script which is used for
starting the instance/DB inside %ORACLE_HOME%\DATABASE.

That must be a personal custom script.
 Ive searched all my nt and win2k servers and only have a TRCFMT.cmd
 which looks like a file to format  trace files


 Let's try the simple solution first.  How about using the
 Services utility in Control Panel to check the service for
 startup =AUTO.

Yes its on auto

 Then specify the parameters that are to be
 used for startup, like pfile=xx.

Your talking about the properties window of the service?
 Where it says You can specify the parameters that apply when you start
the service from here

If so that will start the database but the setting pfile=x does not
retain. So, it seems like you can only pass that parameter,  the
pfile=xxx once

 Specify the userid
 that is supposed to start the database, preferably not the
 Administrator userid, but Oracle or a derivative of it.

So your asying I need a win2k account for the database user? Ive never
heard of that nor have seen parameters in any other configurations.

 This method has been known to work.

 RWB

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Re: Autostarting databases

2002-11-13 Thread Yechiel Adar
Check what SP is installed on the server.
This is a common problem with Y2K SP1.
Upgrade to SP2.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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All
Ive finally returned to my desk from the server room/user
desktop trenches ;-)
with hopefully some time to pose this autostarting problem to the list.

I have about 12 oracle database(services) running on windows 2k server,
I believe by starting the service should start the instance and stopping
the service should shutdown the database.
This not happening on the server, so the databases are not starting up
automatically. I have to force start then using a batch file as such

svrmgrl.exe command='@C:\db_startup\initdb8i.sql' 
C:\sleep 3
...

initdb8i.sql
connect internal/pw@db8i
startup pfile=R:\OR_8I\ADMIN\DB8I\pfile\init.ora
exit 

I have tried to delete the service via oradim and recreating but doing
that does not affect the auto starting problem. Here is an example of my
use of oradim

F:\ORA817\bin\ORADIM -delete -SID db8i 

F:\ORA817\bin\ORADIM -NEW -SID db8i -INTPWD pw -STARTMODE auto -PFILE
R:\OR_8I\ADMIN\DB8I\pfile\init.ora -SHUTMODE i -SHUTTYPE srvc,inst
-TIMEOUT 60

One other issue is once I delete the service and create a new service,
then try to delete again. win2k informs me the service is currently
marked for deletion so you cant do anything else with the instance, a
reboot to clear the marked service is necessary.

I've checked the registry entries in the oracle home and it corresponds
exactly to what is specified in the oradim statement and the path to the
oracle.exe in the service is correct.

Overall history: this server was NT 40, now upgraded to win2k server
this server has oracle 7.3.4, 8.0.5, 8.1.6, 8.1.7.3
currently the default home is set to  8.1.7

The server is running aproc 12 8.1.6 instances and 10 8.1.7 databases
I have tried to 
1. delete and recreate the sid using oradim
2. migrating an 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 using the migration wizard
3. Building a new database using 8.1.7

None of the databases will auto start!

I have win2k pro with 8.1.6 on my machine and stopping and starting the
service starts and stops the database

Any suggestions for getting my db's to start upon boot up. I have
deleted the service with oradim then recreated, as above then rebooted
and the db does not start. This whole problem started whn the server was
upgraded to win2k server.

thanks
bob
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RE: Autostarting databases

2002-11-13 Thread Naveen Nahata
Have a look at the strtsid.cmd script which is used for starting the
instance/DB inside %ORACLE_HOME%\DATABASE.

This file does exist for version 8 on NT, not sure about higher versions on
Win2K.

Regards
Naveen

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All
Ive finally returned to my desk from the server room/user
desktop trenches ;-)
with hopefully some time to pose this autostarting problem to the list.

I have about 12 oracle database(services) running on windows 2k server,
I believe by starting the service should start the instance and stopping
the service should shutdown the database.
This not happening on the server, so the databases are not starting up
automatically. I have to force start then using a batch file as such

svrmgrl.exe command='@C:\db_startup\initdb8i.sql' 
C:\sleep 3
...

initdb8i.sql
connect internal/pw@db8i
startup pfile=R:\OR_8I\ADMIN\DB8I\pfile\init.ora
exit 

I have tried to delete the service via oradim and recreating but doing
that does not affect the auto starting problem. Here is an example of my
use of oradim

F:\ORA817\bin\ORADIM -delete -SID db8i 

F:\ORA817\bin\ORADIM -NEW -SID db8i -INTPWD pw -STARTMODE auto -PFILE
R:\OR_8I\ADMIN\DB8I\pfile\init.ora -SHUTMODE i -SHUTTYPE srvc,inst
-TIMEOUT 60

One other issue is once I delete the service and create a new service,
then try to delete again. win2k informs me the service is currently
marked for deletion so you cant do anything else with the instance, a
reboot to clear the marked service is necessary.

I've checked the registry entries in the oracle home and it corresponds
exactly to what is specified in the oradim statement and the path to the
oracle.exe in the service is correct.

Overall history: this server was NT 40, now upgraded to win2k server
this server has oracle 7.3.4, 8.0.5, 8.1.6, 8.1.7.3
currently the default home is set to  8.1.7

The server is running aproc 12 8.1.6 instances and 10 8.1.7 databases
I have tried to 
1. delete and recreate the sid using oradim
2. migrating an 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 using the migration wizard
3. Building a new database using 8.1.7

None of the databases will auto start!

I have win2k pro with 8.1.6 on my machine and stopping and starting the
service starts and stops the database

Any suggestions for getting my db's to start upon boot up. I have
deleted the service with oradim then recreated, as above then rebooted
and the db does not start. This whole problem started whn the server was
upgraded to win2k server.

thanks
bob
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Re: Autostarting databases

2002-11-13 Thread Reginald . W . Bailey

Bob:

Let's try the simple solution first.  How about using the Services utility
in Control Panel to check the service for startup =AUTO.  Then specify
the parameters that are
to be used for startup, like pfile=xx.  Specify the userid that is
supposed to start the database, preferably not the Administrator userid,
but Oracle or a derivative of it.

This method has been known to work.

RWB




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All
 Ive finally returned to my desk from the server room/user
desktop trenches ;-)
with hopefully some time to pose this autostarting problem to the list.

I have about 12 oracle database(services) running on windows 2k server,
I believe by starting the service should start the instance and stopping
the service should shutdown the database.
This not happening on the server, so the databases are not starting up
automatically. I have to force start then using a batch file as such

svrmgrl.exe command='@C:\db_startup\initdb8i.sql'
C:\sleep 3
...

initdb8i.sql
connect internal/pw@db8i
startup pfile=R:\OR_8I\ADMIN\DB8I\pfile\init.ora
exit

I have tried to delete the service via oradim and recreating but doing
that does not affect the auto starting problem. Here is an example of my
use of oradim

F:\ORA817\bin\ORADIM -delete -SID db8i

F:\ORA817\bin\ORADIM -NEW -SID db8i -INTPWD pw -STARTMODE auto -PFILE
R:\OR_8I\ADMIN\DB8I\pfile\init.ora -SHUTMODE i -SHUTTYPE srvc,inst
-TIMEOUT 60

One other issue is once I delete the service and create a new service,
then try to delete again. win2k informs me the service is currently
marked for deletion so you cant do anything else with the instance, a
reboot to clear the marked service is necessary.

I've checked the registry entries in the oracle home and it corresponds
exactly to what is specified in the oradim statement and the path to the
oracle.exe in the service is correct.

Overall history: this server was NT 40, now upgraded to win2k server
this server has oracle 7.3.4, 8.0.5, 8.1.6, 8.1.7.3
currently the default home is set to  8.1.7

The server is running aproc 12 8.1.6 instances and 10 8.1.7 databases
I have tried to
1. delete and recreate the sid using oradim
2. migrating an 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 using the migration wizard
3. Building a new database using 8.1.7

None of the databases will auto start!

I have win2k pro with 8.1.6 on my machine and stopping and starting the
service starts and stops the database

Any suggestions for getting my db's to start upon boot up. I have
deleted the service with oradim then recreated, as above then rebooted
and the db does not start. This whole problem started whn the server was
upgraded to win2k server.

thanks
bob
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RE: Autostarting databases

2002-11-13 Thread Bob Metelsky
Check what SP is installed on the server.
This is a common problem with Y2K SP1.
Upgrade to SP2.

This is windows 2k server service pack 3 

Have a look at the strtsid.cmd script which is used for 
starting the instance/DB inside %ORACLE_HOME%\DATABASE.

That must be a personal custom script.
 Ive searched all my nt and win2k servers and only have a TRCFMT.cmd
 which looks like a file to format  trace files

 
 Let's try the simple solution first.  How about using the 
 Services utility in Control Panel to check the service for 
 startup =AUTO. 

Yes its on auto

 Then specify the parameters that are to be 
 used for startup, like pfile=xx. 

Your talking about the properties window of the service?
 Where it says You can specify the parameters that apply when you start
the service from here

If so that will start the database but the setting pfile=x does not
retain. So, it seems like you can only pass that parameter,  the
pfile=xxx once

 Specify the userid 
 that is supposed to start the database, preferably not the 
 Administrator userid, but Oracle or a derivative of it.

So your asying I need a win2k account for the database user? Ive never
heard of that nor have seen parameters in any other configurations. 
 
 This method has been known to work.
 
 RWB
 
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Re: Autostarting databases

2002-11-13 Thread Jared Still

Bob,

ORADIM is not to be relied on to properly setup the registry.

Check the ORACLE_SID value in HKLM/Software/Oracle/HOMEn 
directories to make sure that it is there and set properly.

See Note 136214.1 on MetaLink, it has details on setting up
the auto startup/shutdown parameters.

Jared


On Wednesday 13 November 2002 07:18, Bob Metelsky wrote:
 All
   Ive finally returned to my desk from the server room/user
 desktop trenches ;-)
 with hopefully some time to pose this autostarting problem to the list.

 I have about 12 oracle database(services) running on windows 2k server,
 I believe by starting the service should start the instance and stopping
 the service should shutdown the database.
 This not happening on the server, so the databases are not starting up
 automatically. I have to force start then using a batch file as such

 svrmgrl.exe command='@C:\db_startup\initdb8i.sql'
 C:\sleep 3
 ...

 initdb8i.sql
 connect internal/pw@db8i
 startup pfile=R:\OR_8I\ADMIN\DB8I\pfile\init.ora
 exit

 I have tried to delete the service via oradim and recreating but doing
 that does not affect the auto starting problem. Here is an example of my
 use of oradim

 F:\ORA817\bin\ORADIM -delete -SID db8i

 F:\ORA817\bin\ORADIM -NEW -SID db8i -INTPWD pw -STARTMODE auto -PFILE
 R:\OR_8I\ADMIN\DB8I\pfile\init.ora -SHUTMODE i -SHUTTYPE srvc,inst
 -TIMEOUT 60

 One other issue is once I delete the service and create a new service,
 then try to delete again. win2k informs me the service is currently
 marked for deletion so you cant do anything else with the instance, a
 reboot to clear the marked service is necessary.

 I've checked the registry entries in the oracle home and it corresponds
 exactly to what is specified in the oradim statement and the path to the
 oracle.exe in the service is correct.

 Overall history: this server was NT 40, now upgraded to win2k server
 this server has oracle 7.3.4, 8.0.5, 8.1.6, 8.1.7.3
 currently the default home is set to  8.1.7

 The server is running aproc 12 8.1.6 instances and 10 8.1.7 databases
 I have tried to
 1. delete and recreate the sid using oradim
 2. migrating an 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 using the migration wizard
 3. Building a new database using 8.1.7

 None of the databases will auto start!

 I have win2k pro with 8.1.6 on my machine and stopping and starting the
 service starts and stops the database

 Any suggestions for getting my db's to start upon boot up. I have
 deleted the service with oradim then recreated, as above then rebooted
 and the db does not start. This whole problem started whn the server was
 upgraded to win2k server.

 thanks
 bob
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RE: Autostarting databases

2002-11-13 Thread Naveen Nahata
Read Metalink Note: 62006.1

strtSID.cmd is created when you create a service using ORADIMxx, atleast on
NT and DB version till 8.0.x, not sure about Win2K and Oracle Server 8.1.x
and later

Regards
Naveen

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Check what SP is installed on the server.
This is a common problem with Y2K SP1.
Upgrade to SP2.

This is windows 2k server service pack 3 

Have a look at the strtsid.cmd script which is used for 
starting the instance/DB inside %ORACLE_HOME%\DATABASE.

That must be a personal custom script.
 Ive searched all my nt and win2k servers and only have a TRCFMT.cmd
 which looks like a file to format  trace files

 
 Let's try the simple solution first.  How about using the 
 Services utility in Control Panel to check the service for 
 startup =AUTO. 

Yes its on auto

 Then specify the parameters that are to be 
 used for startup, like pfile=xx. 

Your talking about the properties window of the service?
 Where it says You can specify the parameters that apply when you start
the service from here

If so that will start the database but the setting pfile=x does not
retain. So, it seems like you can only pass that parameter,  the
pfile=xxx once

 Specify the userid 
 that is supposed to start the database, preferably not the 
 Administrator userid, but Oracle or a derivative of it.

So your asying I need a win2k account for the database user? Ive never
heard of that nor have seen parameters in any other configurations. 
 
 This method has been known to work.
 
 RWB
 
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