RE: Database Comparison

2002-01-10 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

I've had some problems with the Change Manager.

For some databases it doesn't see any of the objects that would fall in
the last few item categories in the navigator pane on the left - including
tablespaces.

There is a bug with the JVM, sometimes the Oracle Java tool colours go
beserk (fluorescent) and in one occation the window positioning was
completely off.  I use 1024x768 desktops on some NT servers.  Sometimes the
whole graphic column that shows checkmarks or crosses in comparison reports
appears in the upper left corner of the screen instead of where it should
be.  These are probably all related to the same known bug for the JVM
display functions.

The reports also are extensive, I don't know if it is possible to tell
Change Manager to only put in reports just the information you want.
Internet browsers are not happy with HTML files that are megabytes in size,
they take a long time to load.

The Change Manager is faster if run on the console holding the repository
than from a remote client. I recommend running it from the OEM repository
console if at all possible, to avoid network trips as the Change Manager
stores information into the repository.  There will be enough networking
going on with it comparing two remote systems.

Would anyone care to share tips on how to use Change Manager appropriately?
Did you find any problems with Change Manager, are there any differences it
did not catch?

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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 Srini,
Use the change manager that comes with Oracle Enterprise manager. The
initial set-up is little bit difficult. But once u r through, then it is an
handy tool.
Venkat
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RE: Database Comparison

2002-01-10 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

There is a site on the 'net somewhere that inventories who is using what OS
and Web server for major Web sites, but I can't remember what the URL for
that is.

It only reflects what they are using to serve pages to the Web, though.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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Subject:Re: Database Comparison

 Srini,
Use the change manager that comes with Oracle Enterprise manager. The
initial set-up is little bit difficult. But once u r through, then it is an
handy tool.
Venkat
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On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 11:00:36  
 Paul Baumgartel wrote:
There's a very good script available at http://www.dbspecialists.com.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi:
 
 I need to compare my Production database with  QA database.  I would
 like to
 generate a report that shows differences in schemas across these two
 databases(tables, indexes, views, object definition,  etc..).  I
 would
 appreciate it if you could forward me a script that would accomplish
 this or
 any websites where I can find one.
 
 Thanks
 
 Srini Rajendran.
 
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RE: Database Comparison

2002-01-10 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

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There is a site on the 'net somewhere that inventories who is using what OS
and Web server for major Web sites, but I can't remember what the URL for
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It only reflects what they are using to serve pages to the Web, though.



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RE: Database Comparison

2002-01-10 Thread HAWKINS, JAMES W [IT/1000]

Srini,

But be careful - the Change Management pack for OEM is a purchaseable
option.  It is not free.

Jim

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 Srini,
Use the change manager that comes with Oracle Enterprise manager. The
initial set-up is little bit difficult. But once u r through, then it is an
handy tool.
Venkat
--

On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 11:00:36  
 Paul Baumgartel wrote:
There's a very good script available at http://www.dbspecialists.com.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi:
 
 I need to compare my Production database with  QA database.  I would
 like to
 generate a report that shows differences in schemas across these two
 databases(tables, indexes, views, object definition,  etc..).  I
 would
 appreciate it if you could forward me a script that would accomplish
 this or
 any websites where I can find one.
 
 Thanks
 
 Srini Rajendran.
 
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RE: Database Comparison

2002-01-10 Thread C.S.Venkata Subramanian

Hi Boivin and Fellow Listers,
I have been using Oracle change manager to compare the two diff databases and 2 diff 
schemas for quite some time. Basically I use it compare prodcution and development and 
test databases/schema.The initial setup is little bit tedious. First a repository has 
to be created in a seperate machine, and then using the discovery wizard we have to 
discover the nodes. We must make sure that Oracle agent is up and running in the 
target m/c. After that we have to launch the console and to be frank with you I have 
not got into the small details of display, but I feel this tool is quite easier. 

The major hurdle I faced is when applying the changes of one schema to another. Change 
manager will generate the change scripts, this is generated in TCL/TK. So one must be 
familiar with these also. Also if any errors are encountered this scripts halts and 
also this script deletes any data and referential integrity constraints.

So I generate the required reports and do the changes manually either in SQL*Plus. I 
also keep a log while doing the changes.

Best Regards
Venkat
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 05:25:21  
 Boivin, Patrice J wrote:
I've had some problems with the Change Manager.

For some databases it doesn't see any of the objects that would fall in
the last few item categories in the navigator pane on the left - including
tablespaces.

There is a bug with the JVM, sometimes the Oracle Java tool colours go
beserk (fluorescent) and in one occation the window positioning was
completely off.  I use 1024x768 desktops on some NT servers.  Sometimes the
whole graphic column that shows checkmarks or crosses in comparison reports
appears in the upper left corner of the screen instead of where it should
be.  These are probably all related to the same known bug for the JVM
display functions.

The reports also are extensive, I don't know if it is possible to tell
Change Manager to only put in reports just the information you want.
Internet browsers are not happy with HTML files that are megabytes in size,
they take a long time to load.

The Change Manager is faster if run on the console holding the repository
than from a remote client. I recommend running it from the OEM repository
console if at all possible, to avoid network trips as the Change Manager
stores information into the repository.  There will be enough networking
going on with it comparing two remote systems.

Would anyone care to share tips on how to use Change Manager appropriately?
Did you find any problems with Change Manager, are there any differences it
did not catch?

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

Systems Admin  Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
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Venkat
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RE: Database Comparison

2002-01-09 Thread HAWKINS, JAMES W [IT/1000]

Srini,

I would suggest going to http://www.toadsoft.com and downloading the
freeware version in order to use the Schema Compare tool.  All it would
require would be a database link between your Production DB and your QA DB,
or vice-versa.  It will show you all object differences.

Jim

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Hi:

I need to compare my Production database with  QA database.  I would like to
generate a report that shows differences in schemas across these two
databases(tables, indexes, views, object definition,  etc..).  I would
appreciate it if you could forward me a script that would accomplish this or
any websites where I can find one.

Thanks

Srini Rajendran.

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RE: Database Comparison

2002-01-09 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Srini

I agree with James.  Free tool does a pretty good job.  I question it's
report of db triggers and views, though.  Doesn't seem to be right - it
always reports them out of sync for me.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Srini,

I would suggest going to http://www.toadsoft.com and downloading the
freeware version in order to use the Schema Compare tool.  All it would
require would be a database link between your Production DB and your QA DB,
or vice-versa.  It will show you all object differences.

Jim

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Hi:

I need to compare my Production database with  QA database.  I would like to
generate a report that shows differences in schemas across these two
databases(tables, indexes, views, object definition,  etc..).  I would
appreciate it if you could forward me a script that would accomplish this or
any websites where I can find one.

Thanks

Srini Rajendran.

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Re: Database Comparison

2002-01-09 Thread Paul Baumgartel

There's a very good script available at http://www.dbspecialists.com.

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 Hi:
 
 I need to compare my Production database with  QA database.  I would
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 generate a report that shows differences in schemas across these two
 databases(tables, indexes, views, object definition,  etc..).  I
 would
 appreciate it if you could forward me a script that would accomplish
 this or
 any websites where I can find one.
 
 Thanks
 
 Srini Rajendran.
 
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Re: Database Comparison

2002-01-09 Thread C.S.Venkata Subramanian

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Use the change manager that comes with Oracle Enterprise manager. The initial set-up 
is little bit difficult. But once u r through, then it is an handy tool.
Venkat
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On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 11:00:36  
 Paul Baumgartel wrote:
There's a very good script available at http://www.dbspecialists.com.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi:
 
 I need to compare my Production database with  QA database.  I would
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 generate a report that shows differences in schemas across these two
 databases(tables, indexes, views, object definition,  etc..).  I
 would
 appreciate it if you could forward me a script that would accomplish
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