RE: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-29 Thread Stephen.Lee

Your brain is getting full.  You should stop studying so much.  See what it
does to you?

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 Yep, I didn't remember the exact clause in the exchange 
 partition syntax.
 
 Tanel.
 
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RE: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-29 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Probably he needs to set: pga_aggregate_target :)

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Your brain is getting full.  You should stop studying so much.  See what it
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 Yep, I didn't remember the exact clause in the exchange 
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Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-29 Thread Tanel Poder
Yes, that's why I went to a memory improvement training few weeks ago ;)

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 Your brain is getting full.  You should stop studying so much.  See what
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  Yep, I didn't remember the exact clause in the exchange
  partition syntax.
 
  Tanel.
 
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Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-29 Thread Arup Nanda
Hope it improved your hit ratio :)
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 Yes, that's why I went to a memory improvement training few weeks ago ;)

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Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-28 Thread Jonathan Lewis

The need to set primary and unique constraints to 
NOVALIDATE when doing an exchange partition.

(It still doesn't help with problems of parent/child
tables when dropping partitions though).

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 Jonathan,
 
 Which exact behaviour were you talking about?
 
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Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-28 Thread Tanel Poder
Thanks, I haven't hit this problem before.

Actually, in my post I recommended to use novalidate option for exchanging
required partition back from temporary transport table, that way Oracle
won't check the contents in the partition (should be used only when this
partition doesn't change in the meantime).

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 The need to set primary and unique constraints to
 NOVALIDATE when doing an exchange partition.

 (It still doesn't help with problems of parent/child
 tables when dropping partitions though).

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  Jonathan,
 
  Which exact behaviour were you talking about?
 
  Tanel.
 
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   Good news !
   That bug has been fixed in 9.2.0.4
  

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Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-28 Thread Jonathan Lewis

So your 'novalidate' referred to the
without validation
clause of exchange; I thought you
were referring to the workaround
for uk/pk exchanges where even if you
did
including indexes without validate
on the exchange, Oracle still did a
horrendous check of the UK and PK
constraints by doing a massive MINUS
and INTERSECTION across the entire
partitioned table.

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 Thanks, I haven't hit this problem before.

 Actually, in my post I recommended to use novalidate option for
exchanging
 required partition back from temporary transport table, that way Oracle
 won't check the contents in the partition (should be used only when this
 partition doesn't change in the meantime).

 Tanel.


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Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-28 Thread Tanel Poder
Yep, I didn't remember the exact clause in the exchange partition syntax.

Tanel.



 So your 'novalidate' referred to the
 without validation
 clause of exchange; I thought you
 were referring to the workaround
 for uk/pk exchanges where even if you
 did
 including indexes without validate
 on the exchange, Oracle still did a
 horrendous check of the UK and PK
 constraints by doing a massive MINUS
 and INTERSECTION across the entire
 partitioned table.

 Regards

 Jonathan Lewis
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  Thanks, I haven't hit this problem before.
 
  Actually, in my post I recommended to use novalidate option for
 exchanging
  required partition back from temporary transport table, that way Oracle
  won't check the contents in the partition (should be used only when this
  partition doesn't change in the meantime).
 
  Tanel.
 

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Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-27 Thread Tanel Poder
Title: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace



Make sure that you use novalidate and exchange 
indexes as well - that way Oracle won't make unnecessary work.
Also, you should export the metadata at the time 
when required partitions are exchanged to "transport tables".

Tanel.


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  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:49 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Exporting a partition with 
  transport tablespace
  
  
  You could create new 
  table in transportable tablespace, exchange data with the partition you want 
  to export, move transportable tablespace file to the destination system, 
  exchange data back from the table into desired partition.
  
  
  Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  NGUYEN Philippe (Cetelem)Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:34 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of 
  list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Exporting a partition with transport tablespace
  
  Hi list, is it 
  possible to export a partition with the transportable tablespace feature 
  ? My partition is over 8 
  Go. 
  Here my statements , thank you in 
  advance ! 
  SQLexec 
  sys.dbms_tts.transport_set_check('HISTO_DOSSIER_P1_MD_TAB',FALSE); 
  SQL select * from 
  sys.transport_set_violations; 
  VIOLATIONS  
  Partitioned table 
  TOPASE.HISTO_DOSSIER is partially contained in the transportab 
  le set: check table partitions by 
  querying sys.dba_tab_partitions 
  Default Partition (Table) 
  Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P2_MD_TAB for HISTO_DOSSIER n ot 
  contained in transportable set 
  Default Partition (Table) 
  Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P3_MD_TAB for HISTO_DOSSIER n ot 
  contained in transportable set 
  Default Partition (Table) 
  Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P4_MD_TAB for HISTO_DOSSIER n ot 
  contained in transportable set 



Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-27 Thread Jonathan Lewis

Good news !
That bug has been fixed in 9.2.0.4

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Exporting a partition with transport tablespaceMake sure that you use
novalidate and exchange indexes as well - that way Oracle won't make
unnecessary work.

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Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-27 Thread Tanel Poder
Jonathan,

Which exact behaviour were you talking about?

Tanel.

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 Good news !
 That bug has been fixed in 9.2.0.4
 
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Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-22 Thread ryan_oracle
transportable tablespaces need to be totally self-contained. everything that is being 
transported has to be in that tablespace. it doesnt matter if its a different 
datafile. 

you probably have your partitions in seperate tablespaces? or am i wrong? 
 
 From: NGUYEN Philippe (Cetelem) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2003/12/22 Mon AM 10:34:25 EST
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace
 
 Hi list,
 is it possible to export a partition with the transportable tablespace
 feature ?
 My partition is over 8 Go.
 
 Here my statements , thank you in advance !
 
 SQLexec sys.dbms_tts.transport_set_check('HISTO_DOSSIER_P1_MD_TAB',FALSE);
 SQL select * from sys.transport_set_violations;
 
 VIOLATIONS
 
 
 Partitioned table TOPASE.HISTO_DOSSIER is partially contained in the
 transportab
 le set: check table partitions by querying sys.dba_tab_partitions
 
 Default Partition (Table) Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P2_MD_TAB for
 HISTO_DOSSIER n
 ot contained in transportable set
 
 Default Partition (Table) Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P3_MD_TAB for
 HISTO_DOSSIER n
 ot contained in transportable set
 
 Default Partition (Table) Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P4_MD_TAB for
 HISTO_DOSSIER n
 ot contained in transportable set
 
 
Title: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace





Hi list,
is it possible to export a partition with the transportable tablespace feature ?
My partition is over 8 Go.


Here my statements , thank you in advance !


SQLexec sys.dbms_tts.transport_set_check('HISTO_DOSSIER_P1_MD_TAB',FALSE);
SQL select * from sys.transport_set_violations;


VIOLATIONS

Partitioned table TOPASE.HISTO_DOSSIER is partially contained in the transportab
le set: check table partitions by querying sys.dba_tab_partitions


Default Partition (Table) Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P2_MD_TAB for HISTO_DOSSIER n
ot contained in transportable set


Default Partition (Table) Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P3_MD_TAB for HISTO_DOSSIER n
ot contained in transportable set


Default Partition (Table) Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P4_MD_TAB for HISTO_DOSSIER n
ot contained in transportable set






Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-22 Thread ryan_oracle
wait or are you just trying to transport 1 partition? 

i think you have to do regular export and import. 
 
 From: NGUYEN Philippe (Cetelem) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2003/12/22 Mon AM 10:34:25 EST
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace
 
 Hi list,
 is it possible to export a partition with the transportable tablespace
 feature ?
 My partition is over 8 Go.
 
 Here my statements , thank you in advance !
 
 SQLexec sys.dbms_tts.transport_set_check('HISTO_DOSSIER_P1_MD_TAB',FALSE);
 SQL select * from sys.transport_set_violations;
 
 VIOLATIONS
 
 
 Partitioned table TOPASE.HISTO_DOSSIER is partially contained in the
 transportab
 le set: check table partitions by querying sys.dba_tab_partitions
 
 Default Partition (Table) Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P2_MD_TAB for
 HISTO_DOSSIER n
 ot contained in transportable set
 
 Default Partition (Table) Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P3_MD_TAB for
 HISTO_DOSSIER n
 ot contained in transportable set
 
 Default Partition (Table) Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P4_MD_TAB for
 HISTO_DOSSIER n
 ot contained in transportable set
 
 
Title: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace





Hi list,
is it possible to export a partition with the transportable tablespace feature ?
My partition is over 8 Go.


Here my statements , thank you in advance !


SQLexec sys.dbms_tts.transport_set_check('HISTO_DOSSIER_P1_MD_TAB',FALSE);
SQL select * from sys.transport_set_violations;


VIOLATIONS

Partitioned table TOPASE.HISTO_DOSSIER is partially contained in the transportab
le set: check table partitions by querying sys.dba_tab_partitions


Default Partition (Table) Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P2_MD_TAB for HISTO_DOSSIER n
ot contained in transportable set


Default Partition (Table) Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P3_MD_TAB for HISTO_DOSSIER n
ot contained in transportable set


Default Partition (Table) Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P4_MD_TAB for HISTO_DOSSIER n
ot contained in transportable set






Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-22 Thread Arup Nanda
Title: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace



No it's not. However, you could simply exchange the 
partition with a table and then export the tablespace.

For instance,

ALTER TABLE HISTO_DOSSIEREXCHANGE PARTITION 
part1 WITH TABLE HISTO_DOSSIER_part1;

Then export the tablespace. Make sure you do the 
same for any local indexes, too.

HTH.

Arup Nanda

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  NGUYEN Philippe (Cetelem) 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:34 
  AM
  Subject: Exporting a partition with 
  transport tablespace
  
  Hi list, is it 
  possible to export a partition with the transportable tablespace feature 
  ? My partition is over 8 Go. 
  Here my statements , thank you in advance ! 
  
  SQLexec 
  sys.dbms_tts.transport_set_check('HISTO_DOSSIER_P1_MD_TAB',FALSE); 
  SQL select * from 
  sys.transport_set_violations; 
  VIOLATIONS  
  Partitioned table TOPASE.HISTO_DOSSIER is 
  partially contained in the transportab le 
  set: check table partitions by querying sys.dba_tab_partitions 
  Default Partition (Table) Tablespace 
  HISTO_DOSSIER_P2_MD_TAB for HISTO_DOSSIER n ot contained in transportable set 
  Default Partition (Table) Tablespace 
  HISTO_DOSSIER_P3_MD_TAB for HISTO_DOSSIER n ot contained in transportable set 
  Default Partition (Table) Tablespace 
  HISTO_DOSSIER_P4_MD_TAB for HISTO_DOSSIER n ot contained in transportable set 


RE: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-22 Thread NGUYEN Philippe (Cetelem)
Title: RE: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace





Yes, my partitions are in separate tablespaces
so do I have to export all the tablespaces concerned ?
wich solution do you use ? each partition is over 8 Go so should I use common export command to backup only one tablespace ?



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transportable tablespaces need to be totally self-contained. everything that is being transported has to be in that tablespace. it doesnt matter if its a different datafile. 

you probably have your partitions in seperate tablespaces? or am i wrong? 
 
 From: NGUYEN Philippe (Cetelem) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2003/12/22 Mon AM 10:34:25 EST
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 Subject: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace
 
 Hi list,
 is it possible to export a partition with the transportable tablespace
 feature ?
 My partition is over 8 Go.
 
 Here my statements , thank you in advance !
 
 SQLexec sys.dbms_tts.transport_set_check('HISTO_DOSSIER_P1_MD_TAB',FALSE);
 SQL select * from sys.transport_set_violations;
 
 VIOLATIONS
 
 
 Partitioned table TOPASE.HISTO_DOSSIER is partially contained in the
 transportab
 le set: check table partitions by querying sys.dba_tab_partitions
 
 Default Partition (Table) Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P2_MD_TAB for
 HISTO_DOSSIER n
 ot contained in transportable set
 
 Default Partition (Table) Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P3_MD_TAB for
 HISTO_DOSSIER n
 ot contained in transportable set
 
 Default Partition (Table) Tablespace HISTO_DOSSIER_P4_MD_TAB for
 HISTO_DOSSIER n
 ot contained in transportable set
 
 





RE: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-22 Thread Igor Neyman
Title: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace









You could create new table in
transportable tablespace, exchange data with the partition you want to export, move
transportable tablespace file to the destination system, exchange data back
from the table into desired partition.





Igor Neyman, OCP DBA

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Subject: Exporting a partition
with transport tablespace



Hi list, 
is it
possible to export a partition with the transportable tablespace feature ?

My
partition is over 8 Go. 

Here my statements , thank you in advance !


SQLexec
sys.dbms_tts.transport_set_check('HISTO_DOSSIER_P1_MD_TAB',FALSE);

SQL
select * from sys.transport_set_violations; 

VIOLATIONS 


Partitioned
table TOPASE.HISTO_DOSSIER is partially contained in the transportab

le
set: check table partitions by querying sys.dba_tab_partitions 

Default Partition (Table) Tablespace
HISTO_DOSSIER_P2_MD_TAB for HISTO_DOSSIER n 
ot
contained in transportable set 

Default Partition (Table) Tablespace
HISTO_DOSSIER_P3_MD_TAB for HISTO_DOSSIER n 
ot
contained in transportable set 

Default Partition (Table) Tablespace
HISTO_DOSSIER_P4_MD_TAB for HISTO_DOSSIER n 
ot
contained in transportable set