RE: H1-B (was: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed..)
Like most laws there is always a different way to look at it http://www.h1bvisalaw.com/ From: Anjan Thakuria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: H1-B (was: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed..) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:09:24 -0800 Not true.. Rachel with due respect.. -Original Message- Rachel Carmichael Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L you have to spend money to hire someone with an H1-B visa, as you are basically sponsoring them for citizenship. You have to prove that you cannot find an American citizen who can fill that job etc etc. --- "Boivin, Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why would the H1-B cost the employer money? > > Usually if you want to travel and get a visa you can pay a small fee > at the local embassy or consultate and that's it. Work visas may be > different, I > don't know > > Do U.S. employers pay H1-B visa employees' health benefits? > > Just curious, I have never worked in the U.S.. > > I am enjoying the 32 degree Celcius (96 degree Farenheit) weather here > in Canada (was 32 degrees a couple of weeks ago anyway). > > : ) > > I do see news items sometimes talking about H1-B VISA staff vs. > American staff competing for jobs. Usually when there is a recession. > During boom > times employers lobby the Feds to increase the H1-B VISA quotas. > > Patrice. > > -Original Message- > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:55 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Regis, > > that's not discrimination as it is defined in the US. it is a > business decision not to spend money to hire someone to work for you. > > Tom Mercadante > Oracle Certified Professional > > > -Original Message- > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:25 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > and they had "NO H-1B candidates please." What a discrimination... > > -Original Message- > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:04 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Jared, > > can we get orastaff banned from the list? I know people need jobs but > Orastaff is a notorious spammer. I get spammed from these guys through > my home email. > > > > > > From: OraStaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2003/07/16 Wed AM 10:54:27 EDT > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed.. > > > > Minneapolis, Minnesota company has a great opportunity available > for a Sr. > level > > Oracle DBA to join their IT staff. > > > > The selected candidate must be highly skilled in solving extremely > complex > > and very > > critical customer issues. With preferably over 10 years experience > in a > > large-scale > > multi-network open-systems environment, the candidate anticipates > and > plans > > for reliability, > > availability, and serviceability in the design, development and > > implementation of > > Oracle 8i and 9i solutions. > > The candidate will be recognized as a technical authority in the > design, > > analysis, > > implementation and integration of large-scale database management > systems. > > > > Candidates local to the Minneapolis area are preferred, but any > candidate > > who meets > > the qualifications for the position will be considered. > > > > Base Salary is in the 85-100K range plus bonus. > > > > PLEASE Do Not send your resume for this position UNLESS you have > the > skills > > outlined below for this position. > > > > Please Do Not send your resume unless you have a stable work > history. > > Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot > be > > considered. > > > > This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third > parties > > please. > > > > NO H-1B candidates please. > > > > > > *MUST meet these requirements: > > -BS degree in CS or related field. > > -8-10 years experience in a large-scale multi-network open-systems > environment. > > -Very solid Oracle DBA experience..including 8i and 9i. -Proficient > > at capacity monitoring and management capabilities, > preferably > > an expert knowledge > > of Enterprise Manager 9i (OEM), and STATSPACK. > > -Experience performing Oracle installations, upgrades, and > supporting > Oracle > > utilities > > and services in a variety of operating systems (Sol
RE: H1-B (was: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed. .)
Sounds rigid as a system. Thanks for the answer Glenn. Patrice. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 2:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L needed..) Boivin, Patrice J wrote: >Why would the H1-B cost the employer money? > >Usually if you want to travel and get a visa you can pay a small fee at the >local embassy or consultate and that's it. Work visas may be different, I >don't know > >Do U.S. employers pay H1-B visa employees' health benefits? > >Just curious, I have never worked in the U.S.. > >I am enjoying the 32 degree Celcius (96 degree Farenheit) weather here in >Canada (was 32 degrees a couple of weeks ago anyway). > >: ) > >I do see news items sometimes talking about H1-B VISA staff vs. American >staff competing for jobs. Usually when there is a recession. During boom >times employers lobby the Feds to increase the H1-B VISA quotas. > >Patrice. > > > This is my take on it from experience I've had. There is a visa fee that the sponsor pays - for us, as a non-profit, it is $130 if we don't mind waiting for up to four months or $1130 with expedited processing - the fees are higher for profit-making enterprises.That's really insignificant for the most part. But, there is the process itself which involves a fair amount of time and paperwork - you need to be prepared for that and if you have no experience it will take significantly more of your time or you'll end up hiring an attorney to take care of the application. All this and the visa is not guaranteed to be issued; if it isn't, you'll likely end up paying more attorney fees if you want to appeal the decision. There is also a cap on the number of visa's that are issued annually, but I don't really know if that is ever reached. If all goes well, and the visa comes through, you also then need to keep work logs (not sure if you need to file them) and, from what I understand, if there are changes in employment status during the term of the visa - like assigning the person to another job, you have to get approval from the government. Glenn -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Glenn Stauffer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: H1-B (was: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed..)
Not true.. Rachel with due respect.. -Original Message- Rachel Carmichael Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L you have to spend money to hire someone with an H1-B visa, as you are basically sponsoring them for citizenship. You have to prove that you cannot find an American citizen who can fill that job etc etc. --- "Boivin, Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why would the H1-B cost the employer money? > > Usually if you want to travel and get a visa you can pay a small fee > at the local embassy or consultate and that's it. Work visas may be > different, I > don't know > > Do U.S. employers pay H1-B visa employees' health benefits? > > Just curious, I have never worked in the U.S.. > > I am enjoying the 32 degree Celcius (96 degree Farenheit) weather here > in Canada (was 32 degrees a couple of weeks ago anyway). > > : ) > > I do see news items sometimes talking about H1-B VISA staff vs. > American staff competing for jobs. Usually when there is a recession. > During boom > times employers lobby the Feds to increase the H1-B VISA quotas. > > Patrice. > > -Original Message- > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:55 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Regis, > > that's not discrimination as it is defined in the US. it is a > business decision not to spend money to hire someone to work for you. > > Tom Mercadante > Oracle Certified Professional > > > -Original Message- > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:25 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > and they had "NO H-1B candidates please." What a discrimination... > > -Original Message- > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:04 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Jared, > > can we get orastaff banned from the list? I know people need jobs but > Orastaff is a notorious spammer. I get spammed from these guys through > my home email. > > > > > > From: OraStaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2003/07/16 Wed AM 10:54:27 EDT > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed.. > > > > Minneapolis, Minnesota company has a great opportunity available > for a Sr. > level > > Oracle DBA to join their IT staff. > > > > The selected candidate must be highly skilled in solving extremely > complex > > and very > > critical customer issues. With preferably over 10 years experience > in a > > large-scale > > multi-network open-systems environment, the candidate anticipates > and > plans > > for reliability, > > availability, and serviceability in the design, development and > > implementation of > > Oracle 8i and 9i solutions. > > The candidate will be recognized as a technical authority in the > design, > > analysis, > > implementation and integration of large-scale database management > systems. > > > > Candidates local to the Minneapolis area are preferred, but any > candidate > > who meets > > the qualifications for the position will be considered. > > > > Base Salary is in the 85-100K range plus bonus. > > > > PLEASE Do Not send your resume for this position UNLESS you have > the > skills > > outlined below for this position. > > > > Please Do Not send your resume unless you have a stable work > history. > > Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot > be > > considered. > > > > This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third > parties > > please. > > > > NO H-1B candidates please. > > > > > > *MUST meet these requirements: > > -BS degree in CS or related field. > > -8-10 years experience in a large-scale multi-network open-systems > environment. > > -Very solid Oracle DBA experience..including 8i and 9i. -Proficient > > at capacity monitoring and management capabilities, > preferably > > an expert knowledge > > of Enterprise Manager 9i (OEM), and STATSPACK. > > -Experience performing Oracle installations, upgrades, and > supporting > Oracle > > utilities > > and services in a variety of operating systems (Solaris, NT, > Linux) is > > required. > > -Migration and upgrade experience is essential. > > -Expert knowledge of on-line back-up/recovery procedures with > "snapshotting" > > a plus. > > -Proficiency with RMAN is essential. > > -Ability to work with engineering staff to configure SAN storage > for > optimal > > Oracle performance. > > -Expert knowledge of UNIX scripting including CRON Jobs, Oracle > Stored > > Procedures, Triggers, > > Packages, Real Application Clusters (RAC). > > -Performance Tuning and Performance management skills are required, > > SQL*Plus, PL/SQL, > > SQL*Loader, SQL, and UNIX. > > -The applicant must have in-depth experience with ER diagramming, > data > > modeling tools, > > (erWIN preferred) normalization, de-normalization, database > programming > and > > design, > > query optimization, index optimization, use of hints. Optimal > setup of >
Re: H1-B (was: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed..)
you have to spend money to hire someone with an H1-B visa, as you are basically sponsoring them for citizenship. You have to prove that you cannot find an American citizen who can fill that job etc etc. --- "Boivin, Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why would the H1-B cost the employer money? > > Usually if you want to travel and get a visa you can pay a small fee > at the > local embassy or consultate and that's it. Work visas may be > different, I > don't know > > Do U.S. employers pay H1-B visa employees' health benefits? > > Just curious, I have never worked in the U.S.. > > I am enjoying the 32 degree Celcius (96 degree Farenheit) weather > here in > Canada (was 32 degrees a couple of weeks ago anyway). > > : ) > > I do see news items sometimes talking about H1-B VISA staff vs. > American > staff competing for jobs. Usually when there is a recession. During > boom > times employers lobby the Feds to increase the H1-B VISA quotas. > > Patrice. > > -Original Message- > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:55 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Regis, > > that's not discrimination as it is defined in the US. it is a > business > decision not to spend money to hire someone to work for you. > > Tom Mercadante > Oracle Certified Professional > > > -Original Message- > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:25 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > and they had "NO H-1B candidates please." What a discrimination... > > -Original Message- > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:04 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Jared, > > can we get orastaff banned from the list? I know people need jobs but > Orastaff is a notorious spammer. I get spammed > from these guys through my home email. > > > > > > From: OraStaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2003/07/16 Wed AM 10:54:27 EDT > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed.. > > > > Minneapolis, Minnesota company has a great opportunity available > for a Sr. > level > > Oracle DBA to join their IT staff. > > > > The selected candidate must be highly skilled in solving extremely > complex > > and very > > critical customer issues. With preferably over 10 years experience > in a > > large-scale > > multi-network open-systems environment, the candidate anticipates > and > plans > > for reliability, > > availability, and serviceability in the design, development and > > implementation of > > Oracle 8i and 9i solutions. > > The candidate will be recognized as a technical authority in the > design, > > analysis, > > implementation and integration of large-scale database management > systems. > > > > Candidates local to the Minneapolis area are preferred, but any > candidate > > who meets > > the qualifications for the position will be considered. > > > > Base Salary is in the 85-100K range plus bonus. > > > > PLEASE Do Not send your resume for this position UNLESS you have > the > skills > > outlined below for this position. > > > > Please Do Not send your resume unless you have a stable work > history. > > Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot > be > > considered. > > > > This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third > parties > > please. > > > > NO H-1B candidates please. > > > > > > *MUST meet these requirements: > > -BS degree in CS or related field. > > -8-10 years experience in a large-scale multi-network open-systems > environment. > > -Very solid Oracle DBA experience..including 8i and 9i. > > -Proficient at capacity monitoring and management capabilities, > preferably > > an expert knowledge > > of Enterprise Manager 9i (OEM), and STATSPACK. > > -Experience performing Oracle installations, upgrades, and > supporting > Oracle > > utilities > > and services in a variety of operating systems (Solaris, NT, > Linux) is > > required. > > -Migration and upgrade experience is essential. > > -Expert knowledge of on-line back-up/recovery procedures with > "snapshotting" > > a plus. > > -Proficiency with RMAN is essential. > > -Ability to work with engineering staff to configure SAN storage > for > optimal > > Oracle performance. > > -Expert knowledge of UNIX scripting including CRON Jobs, Oracle > Stored > > Procedures, Triggers, > > Packages, Real Application Clusters (RAC). > > -Performance Tuning and Performance management skills are required, > > SQL*Plus, PL/SQL, > > SQL*Loader, SQL, and UNIX. > > -The applicant must have in-depth experience with ER diagramming, > data > > modeling tools, > > (erWIN preferred) normalization, de-normalization, database > programming > and > > design, > > query optimization, index optimization, use of hints. Optimal > setup of > > dblink, views, > > and use of Oracle gateway is required. Must understand how to > design and > > tune an Oracle > > database to optimize performan
Re: H1-B (was: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed..)
Boivin, Patrice J wrote: Why would the H1-B cost the employer money? Usually if you want to travel and get a visa you can pay a small fee at the local embassy or consultate and that's it. Work visas may be different, I don't know Do U.S. employers pay H1-B visa employees' health benefits? Just curious, I have never worked in the U.S.. I am enjoying the 32 degree Celcius (96 degree Farenheit) weather here in Canada (was 32 degrees a couple of weeks ago anyway). : ) I do see news items sometimes talking about H1-B VISA staff vs. American staff competing for jobs. Usually when there is a recession. During boom times employers lobby the Feds to increase the H1-B VISA quotas. Patrice. This is my take on it from experience I've had. There is a visa fee that the sponsor pays - for us, as a non-profit, it is $130 if we don't mind waiting for up to four months or $1130 with expedited processing - the fees are higher for profit-making enterprises.That's really insignificant for the most part. But, there is the process itself which involves a fair amount of time and paperwork - you need to be prepared for that and if you have no experience it will take significantly more of your time or you'll end up hiring an attorney to take care of the application. All this and the visa is not guaranteed to be issued; if it isn't, you'll likely end up paying more attorney fees if you want to appeal the decision. There is also a cap on the number of visa's that are issued annually, but I don't really know if that is ever reached. If all goes well, and the visa comes through, you also then need to keep work logs (not sure if you need to file them) and, from what I understand, if there are changes in employment status during the term of the visa - like assigning the person to another job, you have to get approval from the government. Glenn -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Glenn Stauffer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
