Re: Re: 9i-OCP Question

2003-07-30 Thread rgaffuri
i didnt ask the question. I was responding. what is up with the attitude? 
 
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 So, what do you need us for?
 
 
 
 On 2003.07.30 13:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  according to the 8i osborne ocp book, the answer is 2.
  
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   Subject: 9i-OCP Question
  
   Hi all,
  
   What is the correct answer for this?
  
   Q If you have 2 redo log groups with 4 members each, how many disks does
   Oracle recommend
  to keep the redo log files?
  
   1. 8
   2. 2
   3. 1
   4. 4
  
   Which is the correct answer.
  
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Re: RE: 9i-OCP Question

2003-07-30 Thread rgaffuri
dont know from experience, since I dont handle backups and redo, but according to the 
books, you are multiplexing your redo log groups. so if one of the files gets 
corrupted, etc... you have exact duplicates on different storage devices. 

So if you put all the members on the same storage device and you move onto the the 
next redo log group and then that storage device goes bad, you lose all the redo. 

now lets say you are in archive log mode and your archive log hasnt kept up... and was 
still archiving data. you cant recover from that point in time. 

please correct me if Im wrong. Im half responding to make sure I understand it 
correctly. 
 
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 I thought you need to preserve the groups, not (necessarily) the members.
 
 If you have each group on its own disk then if one disk goes, you've got a complete 
 set of logs on the other.  Or am I not thinking about this correctly?
 
 Cheers,
 
 -Roy
 
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 Answe is 4 disks . to keep each member on different disks . 
 
 -ak
 
 
 
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  Hi all,
  
  What is the correct answer for this?
  
  Q If you have 2 redo log groups with 4 members each, how many disks does
  Oracle recommend
 to keep the redo log files?
  
  1. 8
  2. 2
  3. 1
  4. 4
  
  Which is the correct answer.
  
  TIA
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Re: Re: 9i-OCP Question

2003-07-30 Thread rgaffuri
yeah that might be the right answer, but you would get it wrong on the OCP... assuming 
the books are right. 
 
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 Hi
 
 I don't want to create a fight, but in a configuration with 2 groups and 
 4 members you need 8 disks :
 
 1 disk for every member.
 
 When the db is writing to one group the archiver will be reading from 
 the other group, by the
 why since there are multibe members in the group the db (archiver) will 
 read 64 Kb chunks
 from the each member and there by distribute the IO
 
 
 That's my 2 cent's of knowledge, comment and correction are welcome :-)
 
 Mladen Gogala wrote:
 
  There are two reasons:
  1) Redo log groups are never used simultaneously, so they can reside on
 the same disk. Log members should not be on the same disks for 
  increased
 survivability. That gives us 2 groups with 4 members, each two members
 sharing the same device - 4 disks alltogether.
  2) It's because I say so and I'm an 8i OCP.
 
 
  On 2003.07.30 13:44, KENNETH JANUSZ wrote:
 
  Why?  What is the logic?
 
  Ken Janusz, CPIM
 
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   The answer is 4. Of course, no one in the right mind would have
   2 groups with 4 members each.
  
   On 2003.07.30 13:19, Senthil Kumar wrote:
Hi all,
   
What is the correct answer for this?
   
Q If you have 2 redo log groups with 4 members each, how many disks
  does
Oracle recommend
   to keep the redo log files?
   
1. 8
2. 2
3. 1
4. 4
   
Which is the correct answer.
   
TIA
Senthil
   
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