Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux
Title: Message You still can have row migration when pctfree is set too low. ASSM doesn't resolve that. But yeah, ASSM removes the pctused and freelist/group issues (and introduces others :) Tanel. - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 7:09 PM Subject: RE: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux And why not? Forgetting about PCTFREE/PCTUSED is the main point of automatic segment space management. Initial/next are resolved by using LMT, because that's what takes care of your extent sizes. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard FooteSent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux Hi Mladen, I can't help you with your problem, I haven't had the pleasure on NT or Tru64 but I just wanted to point out that you can't forget about PCTFREE even with ASSM. Cheers Richard - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:44 AM Subject: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux I have RDBMS 9.2.0.4 on RH 7.3 and Iexecuted the following command: create tablespace wizard datafile '/oradata/WIZ/wizard01.dbf' size 3072M reuse autoextend on next 1024M maxsize 16385m extent management local autoallocate segment space management auto; The whole system just hung, doing I/O like crazy. I was unable to killl one of the server processes which survived even shutdown abort, so I had to bounce thw whole box. No errors, no traces, no anything. Does anybody else have experience with this? Is there a known bug (not currently known to me) with a patch that I can install? I'd really like to use "SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO" and forget about pctfree/pctused stuff. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity.
Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux
Title: Message Hm, maybe you get something useful out using truss or strace on your server process when creating the tablespace. You should at least see the calls on what you're waiting the most. Tanel. - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: RE: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux Smaller file didn't help. Removing the SPACE MANAGEMENT clause did the trick. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tanel PoderSent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux Hi! If your server process couldn't be even killed, then probably it was waiting on kernel IO or smth like that. This is a case when a process can't be killed just like that, even with -9. I assume you already tried to isolate the problem, by creating smaller file or removing auto segment space management clause? Tanel. - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 5:44 PM Subject: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux I have RDBMS 9.2.0.4 on RH 7.3 and Iexecuted the following command: create tablespace wizard datafile '/oradata/WIZ/wizard01.dbf' size 3072M reuse autoextend on next 1024M maxsize 16385m extent management local autoallocate segment space management auto; The whole system just hung, doing I/O like crazy. I was unable to killl one of the server processes which survived even shutdown abort, so I had to bounce thw whole box. No errors, no traces, no anything. Does anybody else have experience with this? Is there a known bug (not currently known to me) with a patch that I can install? I'd really like to use "SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO" and forget about pctfree/pctused stuff. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity.
RE: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux
Title: Message Hi, We're still on 817 but I was wandering about those new automatic features (Automatic Undo Management, Automatic Segment Space management,..) how well they work ? Anybody using in production with 9i2 ? Stéphane -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Tanel PoderSent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 5:49 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux You still can have row migration when pctfree is set too low. ASSM doesn't resolve that. But yeah, ASSM removes the pctused and freelist/group issues (and introduces others :) Tanel. - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 7:09 PM Subject: RE: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux And why not? Forgetting about PCTFREE/PCTUSED is the main point of automatic segment space management. Initial/next are resolved by using LMT, because that's what takes care of your extent sizes. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard FooteSent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux Hi Mladen, I can't help you with your problem, I haven't had the pleasure on NT or Tru64 but I just wanted to point out that you can't forget about PCTFREE even with ASSM. Cheers Richard - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:44 AM Subject: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux I have RDBMS 9.2.0.4 on RH 7.3 and Iexecuted the following command: create tablespace wizard datafile '/oradata/WIZ/wizard01.dbf' size 3072M reuse autoextend on next 1024M maxsize 16385m extent management local autoallocate segment space management auto; The whole system just hung, doing I/O like crazy. I was unable to killl one of the server processes which survived even shutdown abort, so I had to bounce thw whole box. No errors, no traces, no anything. Does anybody else have experience with this? Is there a known bug (not currently known to me) with a patch that I can install? I'd really like to use "SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO" and forget about pctfree/pctused stuff. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity.
RE: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux
Title: Message Not in production, but close to (as in two weeks). They seem to work just fine. Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message-From: Stephane Paquette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 4:44 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux Hi, We're still on 817 but I was wandering about those new automatic features (Automatic Undo Management, Automatic Segment Space management,..) how well they work ? Anybody using in production with 9i2 ? Stéphane -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Tanel PoderSent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 5:49 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux You still can have row migration when pctfree is set too low. ASSM doesn't resolve that. But yeah, ASSM removes the pctused and freelist/group issues (and introduces others :) Tanel. - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 7:09 PM Subject: RE: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux And why not? Forgetting about PCTFREE/PCTUSED is the main point of automatic segment space management. Initial/next are resolved by using LMT, because that's what takes care of your extent sizes. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard FooteSent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux Hi Mladen, I can't help you with your problem, I haven't had the pleasure on NT or Tru64 but I just wanted to point out that you can't forget about PCTFREE even with ASSM. Cheers Richard - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:44 AM Subject: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux I have RDBMS 9.2.0.4 on RH 7.3 and Iexecuted the following command: create tablespace wizard datafile '/oradata/WIZ/wizard01.dbf' size 3072M reuse autoextend on next 1024M maxsize 16385m extent management local autoallocate segment space management auto; The whole system just hung, doing I/O like crazy. I was unable to killl one of the server processes which survived even shutdown abort, so I had to bounce thw whole box. No errors, no traces, no anything. Does anybody else have experience with this? Is there a known bug (not currently known to me) with a patch that I can install? I'd really like to use "SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO" and forget about pctfree/pctused stuff. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, d
Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux
Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux
I've had no problems with the syntax on 9.2.0.2 on Solaris, HPUX and Tru64. Haven't tried 9.2.0.4 Is the segment space management auto really the problem ? Or is it the file size. Just run the create tablespace with a 100M or 50M initial file size. Hemant At 06:44 AM 29-09-03 -0800, you wrote: I have RDBMS 9.2.0.4 on RH 7.3 and I executed the following command: create tablespace wizard datafile '/oradata/WIZ/wizard01.dbf' size 3072M reuse autoextend on next 1024M maxsize 16385m extent management local autoallocate segment space management auto; The whole system just hung, doing I/O like crazy. I was unable to killl one of the server processes which survived even shutdown abort, so I had to bounce thw whole box. No errors, no traces, no anything. Does anybody else have experience with this? Is there a known bug (not currently known to me) with a patch that I can install? I'd really like to use SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO and forget about pctfree/pctused stuff. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Wang Trading LLC and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Hemant K Chitale Oracle 9i Database Administrator Certified Professional My personal web site is : http://hkchital.tripod.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Hemant K Chitale INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux
Title: Message Hi! If your server process couldn't be even killed, then probably it was waiting on kernel IO or smth like that. This is a case when a process can't be killed just like that, even with -9. I assume you already tried to isolate the problem, by creating smaller file or removing auto segment space management clause? Tanel. - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 5:44 PM Subject: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux I have RDBMS 9.2.0.4 on RH 7.3 and Iexecuted the following command: create tablespace wizard datafile '/oradata/WIZ/wizard01.dbf' size 3072M reuse autoextend on next 1024M maxsize 16385m extent management local autoallocate segment space management auto; The whole system just hung, doing I/O like crazy. I was unable to killl one of the server processes which survived even shutdown abort, so I had to bounce thw whole box. No errors, no traces, no anything. Does anybody else have experience with this? Is there a known bug (not currently known to me) with a patch that I can install? I'd really like to use "SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO" and forget about pctfree/pctused stuff. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity.
Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux
Title: Message Hi Mladen, I can't help you with your problem, I haven't had the pleasure on NT or Tru64 but I just wanted to point out that you can't forget about PCTFREE even with ASSM. Cheers Richard - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:44 AM Subject: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux I have RDBMS 9.2.0.4 on RH 7.3 and Iexecuted the following command: create tablespace wizard datafile '/oradata/WIZ/wizard01.dbf' size 3072M reuse autoextend on next 1024M maxsize 16385m extent management local autoallocate segment space management auto; The whole system just hung, doing I/O like crazy. I was unable to killl one of the server processes which survived even shutdown abort, so I had to bounce thw whole box. No errors, no traces, no anything. Does anybody else have experience with this? Is there a known bug (not currently known to me) with a patch that I can install? I'd really like to use "SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO" and forget about pctfree/pctused stuff. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity.
RE: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux
Title: Message Smaller file didn't help. Removing the SPACE MANAGEMENT clause did the trick. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tanel PoderSent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux Hi! If your server process couldn't be even killed, then probably it was waiting on kernel IO or smth like that. This is a case when a process can't be killed just like that, even with -9. I assume you already tried to isolate the problem, by creating smaller file or removing auto segment space management clause? Tanel. - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 5:44 PM Subject: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux I have RDBMS 9.2.0.4 on RH 7.3 and Iexecuted the following command: create tablespace wizard datafile '/oradata/WIZ/wizard01.dbf' size 3072M reuse autoextend on next 1024M maxsize 16385m extent management local autoallocate segment space management auto; The whole system just hung, doing I/O like crazy. I was unable to killl one of the server processes which survived even shutdown abort, so I had to bounce thw whole box. No errors, no traces, no anything. Does anybody else have experience with this? Is there a known bug (not currently known to me) with a patch that I can install? I'd really like to use "SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO" and forget about pctfree/pctused stuff. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity.
RE: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux
Title: Message And why not? Forgetting about PCTFREE/PCTUSED is the main point of automatic segment space management. Initial/next are resolved by using LMT, because that's what takes care of your extent sizes. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard FooteSent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux Hi Mladen, I can't help you with your problem, I haven't had the pleasure on NT or Tru64 but I just wanted to point out that you can't forget about PCTFREE even with ASSM. Cheers Richard - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:44 AM Subject: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux I have RDBMS 9.2.0.4 on RH 7.3 and Iexecuted the following command: create tablespace wizard datafile '/oradata/WIZ/wizard01.dbf' size 3072M reuse autoextend on next 1024M maxsize 16385m extent management local autoallocate segment space management auto; The whole system just hung, doing I/O like crazy. I was unable to killl one of the server processes which survived even shutdown abort, so I had to bounce thw whole box. No errors, no traces, no anything. Does anybody else have experience with this? Is there a known bug (not currently known to me) with a patch that I can install? I'd really like to use "SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO" and forget about pctfree/pctused stuff. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity.
RE: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux
Title: Message Tanel is right. An unkillable process represents one that is in an interruptible wait context on system response (i.e. a system call). If you waited long enough, it would probably return (or the box would crashed). What's an indication of a real hung process/serious kernel bug is where the process is waiting on something, but the kernel isn't servicing it anymore. Thanks, Matt --Matthew ZitoGridApp SystemsEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cell: 646-220-3551Phone: 212-358-8211 x 359http://www.gridapp.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tanel PoderSent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux Hi! If your server process couldn't be even killed, then probably it was waiting on kernel IO or smth like that. This is a case when a process can't be killed just like that, even with -9. I assume you already tried to isolate the problem, by creating smaller file or removing auto segment space management clause? Tanel. - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 5:44 PM Subject: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux I have RDBMS 9.2.0.4 on RH 7.3 and Iexecuted the following command: create tablespace wizard datafile '/oradata/WIZ/wizard01.dbf' size 3072M reuse autoextend on next 1024M maxsize 16385m extent management local autoallocate segment space management auto; The whole system just hung, doing I/O like crazy. I was unable to killl one of the server processes which survived even shutdown abort, so I had to bounce thw whole box. No errors, no traces, no anything. Does anybody else have experience with this? Is there a known bug (not currently known to me) with a patch that I can install? I'd really like to use "SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO" and forget about pctfree/pctused stuff. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity.
Re: RE: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux
i thought i read that auto-segment management only handles pctused. you have to handle pctfree yourself? From: Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/09/29 Mon PM 12:09:46 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux And why not? Forgetting about PCTFREE/PCTUSED is the main point of automatic segment space management. Initial/next are resolved by using LMT, because that's what takes care of your extent sizes. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- Richard Foote Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Mladen, I can't help you with your problem, I haven't had the pleasure on NT or Tru64 but I just wanted to point out that you can't forget about PCTFREE even with ASSM. Cheers Richard - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:44 AM I have RDBMS 9.2.0.4 on RH 7.3 and I executed the following command: create tablespace wizard datafile '/oradata/WIZ/wizard01.dbf' size 3072M reuse autoextend on next 1024M maxsize 16385m extent management local autoallocate segment space management auto; The whole system just hung, doing I/O like crazy. I was unable to killl one of the server processes which survived even shutdown abort, so I had to bounce thw whole box. No errors, no traces, no anything. Does anybody else have experience with this? Is there a known bug (not currently known to me) with a patch that I can install? I'd really like to use SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO and forget about pctfree/pctused stuff. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Wang Trading LLC and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Wang Trading LLC and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Title: Message And why not? Forgetting about PCTFREE/PCTUSED is the main point of automatic segment space management. Initial/next are resolved by using LMT, because that's what takes care of your extent sizes. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard FooteSent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux Hi Mladen, I can't help you with your problem, I haven't had the pleasure on NT or Tru64 but I just wanted to point out that you can't forget about PCTFREE even with ASSM. Cheers Richard - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:44 AM Subject: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux I have RDBMS 9.2.0.4 on RH 7.3 and Iexecuted the following command: create tablespace wizard datafile '/oradata/WIZ/wizard01.dbf' size 3072M reuse autoextend on next 1024M maxsize 16385m extent management local autoallocate segment space management auto; The whole system just hung, doing I/O like crazy. I was unable to killl one of the server processes which survived even shutdown abort, so I had to bounce thw
Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux
Title: Message Hi Mladen, Because when you insert a row, Oracle has absolutely no idea by how much it might grow (should the insertion of that 18th row use up the remaining space in the block or should we save some, who's to know ...). Therefore the setting of some magic PCTFREE is not supported. Forget about PCTUSED, FREELISTS and FREELIST GROUPS but ASSM doesn't support the forgetting of PCTFREE. Cheers Richard - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:09 AM Subject: RE: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux And why not? Forgetting about PCTFREE/PCTUSED is the main point of automatic segment space management. Initial/next are resolved by using LMT, because that's what takes care of your extent sizes. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard FooteSent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux Hi Mladen, I can't help you with your problem, I haven't had the pleasure on NT or Tru64 but I just wanted to point out that you can't forget about PCTFREE even with ASSM. Cheers Richard - Original Message - From: Mladen Gogala To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:44 AM Subject: SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO hangs on 9.2.0.4 on Linux I have RDBMS 9.2.0.4 on RH 7.3 and Iexecuted the following command: create tablespace wizard datafile '/oradata/WIZ/wizard01.dbf' size 3072M reuse autoextend on next 1024M maxsize 16385m extent management local autoallocate segment space management auto; The whole system just hung, doing I/O like crazy. I was unable to killl one of the server processes which survived even shutdown abort, so I had to bounce thw whole box. No errors, no traces, no anything. Does anybody else have experience with this? Is there a known bug (not currently known to me) with a patch that I can install? I'd really like to use "SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT AUTO" and forget about pctfree/pctused stuff. --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error,please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient.Wang Trading LLCand any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity.
