RE: US7ASCII, UTF8, characters sets, conversions.....agghhhhHH!!!

2002-01-10 Thread

Sorry, forgot the start. It is :WE8ISO8859P1.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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 Hello Chris
 
 We are using ISO8859P1 because we need support for Hebrew character set.
 
 Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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  Hey Yechiel,
  
  Thanks.  And which character set is that?
  
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   When I connected I got:
   
   OWS-05101: Execution failed due to Oracle error -6550
   
   Oops!  Maybe they have the wrong character set.
   
   
   

   
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   So we stumbled upon the white paper...
   
   WHY WE ARE MOVING OUR DATABASES TO THE UTF8 CHARACTER SET
   By David F. Pennington, GlaxoSmithKline
   
   This white paper raises a potential issue that DBAs might need to be
  aware
   of.  Basically, it has to do with certain characters not storing
  correctly
   in the database because of different character sets being used between
  the
   database, client and how the user enters data into the application.
   
   Has this issue been raised on the list before?
   
   Basically, were wondering how other DBAs/sites are
 handling/approaching
   this
   issue.
   
   Many TIA!!
   
   Chris
   
   I believe the below link will get you to the white paper on the IOUG
   website.
   
  
 
 http://www.ioug.org/ioug_s/REPOSITORY_PKG.REPOSITORY_BUILD_VIEW_FORM?v_tec
   h_
   
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RE: US7ASCII, UTF8, characters sets, conversions.....agghhhhHH!!!

2002-01-10 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Ok, so to get a better feel for what's going on, is everyone still using
US7ASCII??  Have sites started switching over to UTF8??  Have there been any
conversion problems??  Do the websites(like Amazon, Yahoo, BN, etc) that
have an Oracle backend enforce UTF8 as a standard, so that they can store
any type of character that a user enters???

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


So we stumbled upon the white paper...

WHY WE ARE MOVING OUR DATABASES TO THE UTF8 CHARACTER SET 
By David F. Pennington, GlaxoSmithKline

This white paper raises a potential issue that DBAs might need to be aware
of.  Basically, it has to do with certain characters not storing correctly
in the database because of different character sets being used between the
database, client and how the user enters data into the application.

Has this issue been raised on the list before?

Basically, were wondering how other DBAs/sites are handling/approaching this
issue.

Many TIA!!

Chris

I believe the below link will get you to the white paper on the IOUG
website.

http://www.ioug.org/ioug_s/REPOSITORY_PKG.REPOSITORY_BUILD_VIEW_FORM?v_tech_
content_phy_Id=5310v_trx=784353
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RE: US7ASCII, UTF8, characters sets, conversions.....agghhhhHH!!!

2002-01-10 Thread Cherie_Machler


Chris,

We have started using UTF8 on our new databases as a standard.

All of our old, existing databases use US7ASCII.

We need to convert a couple of existing databases such as our
200Gig data warehouse from US7ASCII to UTF8.

I am concerned about conversion problems.   I asked a few weeks
ago if anyone had successfully converted from US7ASCII to UTF8
but got no response.

I've searched on Metalink for the topic and didn't find much.   If you
get any responses, could you forward them on to me or post to the
list.

Thanks much,

Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network


   
   
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Ok, so to get a better feel for what's going on, is everyone still using
US7ASCII??  Have sites started switching over to UTF8??  Have there been
any
conversion problems??  Do the websites(like Amazon, Yahoo, BN, etc) that
have an Oracle backend enforce UTF8 as a standard, so that they can store
any type of character that a user enters???

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:05 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


So we stumbled upon the white paper...

WHY WE ARE MOVING OUR DATABASES TO THE UTF8 CHARACTER SET
By David F. Pennington, GlaxoSmithKline

This white paper raises a potential issue that DBAs might need to be aware
of.  Basically, it has to do with certain characters not storing correctly
in the database because of different character sets being used between the
database, client and how the user enters data into the application.

Has this issue been raised on the list before?

Basically, were wondering how other DBAs/sites are handling/approaching
this
issue.

Many TIA!!

Chris

I believe the below link will get you to the white paper on the IOUG
website.

http://www.ioug.org/ioug_s/REPOSITORY_PKG.REPOSITORY_BUILD_VIEW_FORM?v_tech_

content_phy_Id=5310v_trx=784353
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RE: US7ASCII, UTF8, characters sets, conversions.....agghhhhHH!!!

2002-01-10 Thread hemantchitale


Look at
1.  Note 139654.1   Oracle Applications Release 11i with UTF8 FAQ
2.  Note 124721.1  Migrating an Application Installation to a new
character-set [UTF8]
3.  Note 134375.1  Using UTF8 Character Set with Applications Release 11i

Even if you are not running Oracle Apps, I suggest you read these notes.

[I haven't done a conversion -- I am running US7ASCII and WE8ISO8859P1
databases ony   :( ]

Hemant K Chitale
Principal DBA
Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd


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Chris,

We have started using UTF8 on our new databases as a standard.

All of our old, existing databases use US7ASCII.

We need to convert a couple of existing databases such as our
200Gig data warehouse from US7ASCII to UTF8.

I am concerned about conversion problems.   I asked a few weeks
ago if anyone had successfully converted from US7ASCII to UTF8
but got no response.

I've searched on Metalink for the topic and didn't find much.   If you
get any responses, could you forward them on to me or post to the
list.

Thanks much,

Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network



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Ok, so to get a better feel for what's going on, is everyone still using
US7ASCII??  Have sites started switching over to UTF8??  Have there been
any
conversion problems??  Do the websites(like Amazon, Yahoo, BN, etc) that
have an Oracle backend enforce UTF8 as a standard, so that they can store
any type of character that a user enters???

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:05 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


So we stumbled upon the white paper...

WHY WE ARE MOVING OUR DATABASES TO THE UTF8 CHARACTER SET
By David F. Pennington, GlaxoSmithKline

This white paper raises a potential issue that DBAs might need to be aware
of.  Basically, it has to do with certain characters not storing correctly
in the database because of different character sets being used between the
database, client and how the user enters data into the application.

Has this issue been raised on the list before?

Basically, were wondering how other DBAs/sites are handling/approaching
this
issue.

Many TIA!!

Chris

I believe the below link will get you to the white paper on the IOUG
website.

http://www.ioug.org/ioug_s/REPOSITORY_PKG.REPOSITORY_BUILD_VIEW_FORM?v_tech_


content_phy_Id=5310v_trx=784353
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Re: US7ASCII, UTF8, characters sets, conversions.....agghhhhHH!!!!!

2002-01-09 Thread tday6

When I connected I got:

OWS-05101: Execution failed due to Oracle error -6550

Oops!  Maybe they have the wrong character set.



   

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So we stumbled upon the white paper...

WHY WE ARE MOVING OUR DATABASES TO THE UTF8 CHARACTER SET
By David F. Pennington, GlaxoSmithKline

This white paper raises a potential issue that DBAs might need to be aware
of.  Basically, it has to do with certain characters not storing correctly
in the database because of different character sets being used between the
database, client and how the user enters data into the application.

Has this issue been raised on the list before?

Basically, were wondering how other DBAs/sites are handling/approaching
this
issue.

Many TIA!!

Chris

I believe the below link will get you to the white paper on the IOUG
website.

http://www.ioug.org/ioug_s/REPOSITORY_PKG.REPOSITORY_BUILD_VIEW_FORM?v_tech_

content_phy_Id=5310v_trx=784353
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RE: US7ASCII, UTF8, characters sets, conversions.....agghhhhHH!!!

2002-01-09 Thread

Hello Chris

We made a point to have all the components (servers and clients and db's) in
the same character sets.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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 When I connected I got:
 
 OWS-05101: Execution failed due to Oracle error -6550
 
 Oops!  Maybe they have the wrong character set.
 
 
 
  
 
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 So we stumbled upon the white paper...
 
 WHY WE ARE MOVING OUR DATABASES TO THE UTF8 CHARACTER SET
 By David F. Pennington, GlaxoSmithKline
 
 This white paper raises a potential issue that DBAs might need to be aware
 of.  Basically, it has to do with certain characters not storing correctly
 in the database because of different character sets being used between the
 database, client and how the user enters data into the application.
 
 Has this issue been raised on the list before?
 
 Basically, were wondering how other DBAs/sites are handling/approaching
 this
 issue.
 
 Many TIA!!
 
 Chris
 
 I believe the below link will get you to the white paper on the IOUG
 website.
 
 http://www.ioug.org/ioug_s/REPOSITORY_PKG.REPOSITORY_BUILD_VIEW_FORM?v_tec
 h_
 
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RE: US7ASCII, UTF8, characters sets, conversions.....agghhhhHH!!!

2002-01-09 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Hey Yechiel,

Thanks.  And which character set is that?

Chris

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Hello Chris

We made a point to have all the components (servers and clients and db's) in
the same character sets.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 Sent: Wed, January 09, 2002 3:35 PM
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 Subject:  Re: US7ASCII, UTF8, characters sets,
 conversions.aggHH!
 
 When I connected I got:
 
 OWS-05101: Execution failed due to Oracle error -6550
 
 Oops!  Maybe they have the wrong character set.
 
 
 
  
 
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 Sent by: rootSubject: US7ASCII, UTF8,
 characters sets, 
  conversions.aggHH!
 
  
 
 01/08/2002
 
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 Please
 
 respond to
 
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 So we stumbled upon the white paper...
 
 WHY WE ARE MOVING OUR DATABASES TO THE UTF8 CHARACTER SET
 By David F. Pennington, GlaxoSmithKline
 
 This white paper raises a potential issue that DBAs might need to be aware
 of.  Basically, it has to do with certain characters not storing correctly
 in the database because of different character sets being used between the
 database, client and how the user enters data into the application.
 
 Has this issue been raised on the list before?
 
 Basically, were wondering how other DBAs/sites are handling/approaching
 this
 issue.
 
 Many TIA!!
 
 Chris
 
 I believe the below link will get you to the white paper on the IOUG
 website.
 
 http://www.ioug.org/ioug_s/REPOSITORY_PKG.REPOSITORY_BUILD_VIEW_FORM?v_tec
 h_
 
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RE: US7ASCII, UTF8, characters sets, conversions.....agghhhhHH!!!

2002-01-08 Thread Mohan, Ross

if you attended IOUG and had a user/pwd it would, yea. 

thanks

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So we stumbled upon the white paper...

WHY WE ARE MOVING OUR DATABASES TO THE UTF8 CHARACTER SET 
By David F. Pennington, GlaxoSmithKline

This white paper raises a potential issue that DBAs might need to be aware
of.  Basically, it has to do with certain characters not storing correctly
in the database because of different character sets being used between the
database, client and how the user enters data into the application.

Has this issue been raised on the list before?

Basically, were wondering how other DBAs/sites are handling/approaching this
issue.

Many TIA!!

Chris

I believe the below link will get you to the white paper on the IOUG
website.

http://www.ioug.org/ioug_s/REPOSITORY_PKG.REPOSITORY_BUILD_VIEW_FORM?v_tech_
content_phy_Id=5310v_trx=784353
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