Re: Windows clustering???
And the plans for this, I was informed from a manager at HP last week, are: - It's beta on VMS on Itanium now - It can run in a cluster with an Alpha box - Possible release in 3rd quarter of 2004 Mogens Tanel Poder wrote: Maybe you all already know that, but HP is planning to support OpenVMS on their Itanium servers :) Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:14 PM I'm guessing they're not running Oracle on this VMS cluster. I really liked the part about the most difficult part was explaining to managers why it was unnecessary to shut systems down, even during the physical relocation. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13002 Imagine if DEC had any marketing... Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Windows clustering???
Oh yeah? Just this week we had a Windows box that had been up for 29 days straight!!! Yep. You read it right. I'm not giving out our secrets though. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This is a small, static, but fiercely loyal group of VMS users for HP to milk. OpenVMS is money in the bank for HP, as it was for Compaq and DEC. Even the bean-counters understand the insanity of shutting off a guaranteed, endless, and highly-profitable revenue stream upon which they do not have to expend any marketing or sales resources... Officially, they currently promise OpenVMS support through 2012 or thereabouts, I believe. In Colorado Springs (at the DEC-then-Compaq-then-HP hosting center), there is a VMS cluster hosting an Rdb-based application that has been continuously available for the past 11-12 years. Zero downtime for the application. Absolutely stunning. on 12/10/03 2:14 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you all already know that, but HP is planning to support OpenVMS on their Itanium servers :) Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:14 PM I'm guessing they're not running Oracle on this VMS cluster. I really liked the part about the most difficult part was explaining to managers why it was unnecessary to shut systems down, even during the physical relocation. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13002 Imagine if DEC had any marketing... Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Cunningham, Gerald INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Windows clustering???
Let me guess your secret: Windows box is running X-windows X11R6 and an OS ending in x? Your version of windows has a bug in BSOD? On 12/11/2003 01:59:37 PM, Cunningham, Gerald wrote: Oh yeah? Just this week we had a Windows box that had been up for 29 days straight!!! Yep. You read it right. I'm not giving out our secrets though. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This is a small, static, but fiercely loyal group of VMS users for HP to milk. OpenVMS is money in the bank for HP, as it was for Compaq and DEC. Even the bean-counters understand the insanity of shutting off a guaranteed, endless, and highly-profitable revenue stream upon which they do not have to expend any marketing or sales resources... Officially, they currently promise OpenVMS support through 2012 or thereabouts, I believe. In Colorado Springs (at the DEC-then-Compaq-then-HP hosting center), there is a VMS cluster hosting an Rdb-based application that has been continuously available for the past 11-12 years. Zero downtime for the application. Absolutely stunning. on 12/10/03 2:14 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you all already know that, but HP is planning to support OpenVMS on their Itanium servers :) Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:14 PM I'm guessing they're not running Oracle on this VMS cluster. I really liked the part about the most difficult part was explaining to managers why it was unnecessary to shut systems down, even during the physical relocation. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13002 Imagine if DEC had any marketing... Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Cunningham, Gerald INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Wang Trading LLC and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network
RE: Windows clustering???
I'm guessing that you removed the monitor, keyboard and mouse, disabled terminal services, removed it from the domain, unbound NetBIOS from TCP/IP and shut down all of the non-required services (especially "Server")- and - put a penguin sticker on the front of it, so that people thought it was a scary leenucks box. bonus points if it no longer resolves via DNS. BDBAFH. seriously though, we had a 7.3.4.4.1 db running on WinNT Server 4.0 at a client site whereby theOS had an uptime of over 2 years. guess that they just didn't beat on it much. uptimes of 6 months was not unusual."Cunningham, Gerald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah? Just this week we had a Windows box that had been up for 29days straight!!!Yep. You read it right. I'm not giving out our secrets though.-Original Message-Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:55 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LThis is a small, static, but fiercely loyal group of VMS users for HP tomilk. OpenVMS is money in the bank for HP, as it was for Compaq andDEC. Even the bean-counters understand the insanity of shutting off aguaranteed, endless, and highly-profitable revenue stream upon whichthey do not have to expend any marketing or sales resources...Officially, they currently promise OpenVMS support through 2012 orthereabouts, I believe.In Colorado Springs (at the DEC-then-Compaq-then-HP hosting center),there is a VMS cluster hosting an Rdb-based application th! at has beencontinuously available for the past 11-12 years. Zero downtime for theapplication. Absolutely stunning.on 12/10/03 2:14 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you all already know that, but HP is planning to support OpenVMS on their Itanium servers :) Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:14 PM I'm guessing they're not running Oracle on this VMS cluster. I really liked the part about "the most difficult part was explaining to managers why it was unnecessary to shut systems down, even during the physical relocation." http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13002 Imagine if DEC had any marketing... Rich! t; Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the o! fficial ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net-- Author: Tim GormanINET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.comSan Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services-To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in themessage BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name ofmailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELPcommand for other information (like subscribing).-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net-- Author: Cunningham, GeraldINET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.comSan Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services-To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing
RE: Windows clustering???
Now you've got me going, Rich. After 15 years of VMS we're being forced to use UNIX (HP-UX 11i) just because the application we want to use doesn't run on VMS. (Developers needed to re-write the app for VMS. Marketing needed so the developers will be paid and the company will be profitable.) It's taking me a little while to become accustomed to CaSe SenSiTIvitY. (VMS's revenge on case sensitivity? Font-size *and* font-set sensitivity!) Clustering is just something we've taken for granted. We do run Oracle on VMS (since 1999) and have not had the up-time mentioned in that INQ article. Keeping the cluster up is a lot easier than keeping an instance up! Nelson -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I'm guessing they're not running Oracle on this VMS cluster. I really liked the part about the most difficult part was explaining to managers why it was unnecessary to shut systems down, even during the physical relocation. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13002 Imagine if DEC had any marketing... Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Windows clustering???
Maybe you all already know that, but HP is planning to support OpenVMS on their Itanium servers :) Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:14 PM I'm guessing they're not running Oracle on this VMS cluster. I really liked the part about the most difficult part was explaining to managers why it was unnecessary to shut systems down, even during the physical relocation. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13002 Imagine if DEC had any marketing... Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Windows clustering???
This is a small, static, but fiercely loyal group of VMS users for HP to milk. OpenVMS is money in the bank for HP, as it was for Compaq and DEC. Even the bean-counters understand the insanity of shutting off a guaranteed, endless, and highly-profitable revenue stream upon which they do not have to expend any marketing or sales resources... Officially, they currently promise OpenVMS support through 2012 or thereabouts, I believe. In Colorado Springs (at the DEC-then-Compaq-then-HP hosting center), there is a VMS cluster hosting an Rdb-based application that has been continuously available for the past 11-12 years. Zero downtime for the application. Absolutely stunning. on 12/10/03 2:14 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you all already know that, but HP is planning to support OpenVMS on their Itanium servers :) Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:14 PM I'm guessing they're not running Oracle on this VMS cluster. I really liked the part about the most difficult part was explaining to managers why it was unnecessary to shut systems down, even during the physical relocation. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13002 Imagine if DEC had any marketing... Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
