Re[2]: Oracle wants your job

2002-04-30 Thread dgoulet 

Jared,

The other problem with outsourcing, which we've run head on into, is that an
ASP wants you to run the application plain vanilla.  Customization of an
application to fit your business/needs is one area they really do not like to
handle.  Makes upgrading a pain in the *^, which means some of your clients are
running PeopleSoft 7 while the remainder are on Peoplesoft 8.  Also your patch
levels will vary, due to the customization.  Hence, if you need to customize you
can't outsource.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   4/30/2002 7:08 AM


RANT
This has all been tried before, and the predictions are the
same:  financial nirvana, big savings in technology costs,
no pesky holier-than-thou DBA's baffling poor damagers
with stuff they can't possibly understand.
/RANT

Very few executive, managers or DBA's are going to want
to place their corporate data on Oracle's site, or even provide
access to it from outside for non-employees.

There's also the whipping boy factor.  Who's butt you going to
kick when the database is screwed up?  ;)

Heard a good quote on a documentary the other night:
A corporation has no soul to save nor an ass to kick.

Someone local must be accountable for the data.  The whole
outsourcing thing is kind of baffling to me at times.  Why not
carry it out its fullest measure?

Outsource mfg, sales, IT, design and executives.  No need 
for any employees.

Guess I turned of the rant too soon.


Jared


On Tuesday 30 April 2002 06:44, Farnsworth, Dave wrote:
 http://www.infoworld.com/articles/se/xml/02/04/29/020429seoracle.xml

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Re: Re[2]: Oracle wants your job

2002-04-30 Thread Jared Still 


Good points all.

Reminds me of Larry E's statement last year that businesses 
should be run the way the software works: no customizations.

Can you see why he said that?  :)

Oracle corp knows best.

Jared

On Tuesday 30 April 2002 07:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jared,

 The other problem with outsourcing, which we've run head on into, is
 that an ASP wants you to run the application plain vanilla. 
 Customization of an application to fit your business/needs is one area they
 really do not like to handle.  Makes upgrading a pain in the *^, which
 means some of your clients are running PeopleSoft 7 while the remainder are
 on Peoplesoft 8.  Also your patch levels will vary, due to the
 customization.  Hence, if you need to customize you can't outsource.

 Dick Goulet

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 Subject:Re: Oracle wants your job
 Author: Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:   4/30/2002 7:08 AM


 RANT
 This has all been tried before, and the predictions are the
 same:  financial nirvana, big savings in technology costs,
 no pesky holier-than-thou DBA's baffling poor damagers
 with stuff they can't possibly understand.
 /RANT

 Very few executive, managers or DBA's are going to want
 to place their corporate data on Oracle's site, or even provide
 access to it from outside for non-employees.

 There's also the whipping boy factor.  Who's butt you going to
 kick when the database is screwed up?  ;)

 Heard a good quote on a documentary the other night:
 A corporation has no soul to save nor an ass to kick.

 Someone local must be accountable for the data.  The whole
 outsourcing thing is kind of baffling to me at times.  Why not
 carry it out its fullest measure?

 Outsource mfg, sales, IT, design and executives.  No need
 for any employees.

 Guess I turned of the rant too soon.


 Jared

 On Tuesday 30 April 2002 06:44, Farnsworth, Dave wrote:
  http://www.infoworld.com/articles/se/xml/02/04/29/020429seoracle.xml
 
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