RE: Redo log size MAX = ?

2001-04-03 Thread Scott . Shafer

True.  ;-)  But considering my foot-in-mouth disease lately, I figured I'd
phrase my response as a question...

Scott Shafer
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> So, based on the responses I've seen, this statement can be declared to be
> false.
> 
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/01 11:05AM >>>
> hi
> forget about recovery from online redo logs
> It doesn't exist in Oracle
> 
> Regards
> Tapiwa
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> My database = noarchive mode (compulsory for our application)
> In case of instance failure can oracle perform recovery from redo log ? if
> can what will be tne maximum size of the redo log recommended.
> Because I need set that size for whole day transaction currently 512K (3
> redo logs) switched every 15 - 30 minutes.
> Can oracle perform recovery from inactive or "other status" redo log ?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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RE: Redo log size MAX = ?

2001-04-03 Thread Tim Sawmiller

So, based on the responses I've seen, this statement can be declared to be false.



>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/01 11:05AM >>>
hi
forget about recovery from online redo logs
It doesn't exist in Oracle

Regards
Tapiwa

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Hi,

My database = noarchive mode (compulsory for our application)
In case of instance failure can oracle perform recovery from redo log ? if
can what will be tne maximum size of the redo log recommended.
Because I need set that size for whole day transaction currently 512K (3
redo logs) switched every 15 - 30 minutes.
Can oracle perform recovery from inactive or "other status" redo log ?

Thank you.

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RE: Redo log size MAX = ?

2001-04-03 Thread William Beilstein

That  is true. The archive logs are nothing more then copies of the redo logs before 
they are reused.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/01 01:10PM >>>
Is this true?  
I thought that if the transactions needed for recovery are in the online
redo logs, and the online logs are available, then the RECOVER DATABASE
statement will read from the online logs.  Just did it this morning on a
noarchivelog database, Oracle 7.3.3.  If however, the data needed for
recovery in the online logs has been overwritten, then the database will be
unrecoverable.

Scott Shafer
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> 
> hi
> forget about recovery from online redo logs
> It doesn't exist in Oracle
> 
> Regards
> Tapiwa
> 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> My database = noarchive mode (compulsory for our application)
> In case of instance failure can oracle perform recovery from redo log ? if
> can what will be tne maximum size of the redo log recommended.
> Because I need set that size for whole day transaction currently 512K (3
> redo logs) switched every 15 - 30 minutes.
> Can oracle perform recovery from inactive or "other status" redo log ?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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RE: Redo log size MAX = ?

2001-04-03 Thread Scott . Shafer

Is this true?  
I thought that if the transactions needed for recovery are in the online
redo logs, and the online logs are available, then the RECOVER DATABASE
statement will read from the online logs.  Just did it this morning on a
noarchivelog database, Oracle 7.3.3.  If however, the data needed for
recovery in the online logs has been overwritten, then the database will be
unrecoverable.

Scott Shafer
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:05 AM
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> 
> hi
> forget about recovery from online redo logs
> It doesn't exist in Oracle
> 
> Regards
> Tapiwa
> 
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:01 PM
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> My database = noarchive mode (compulsory for our application)
> In case of instance failure can oracle perform recovery from redo log ? if
> can what will be tne maximum size of the redo log recommended.
> Because I need set that size for whole day transaction currently 512K (3
> redo logs) switched every 15 - 30 minutes.
> Can oracle perform recovery from inactive or "other status" redo log ?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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RE: Redo log size MAX = ?

2001-04-03 Thread Gogala, Mladen

That would be one of those RTFM questions, don't you think?

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Why can't you use archiving? It doesn't effect the applications running on
the database in anyway (except space to store the archives)

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/01 09:00AM >>>
Hi,

My database = noarchive mode (compulsory for our application)
In case of instance failure can oracle perform recovery from redo log ? if
can what will be tne maximum size of the redo log recommended.
Because I need set that size for whole day transaction currently 512K (3
redo logs) switched every 15 - 30 minutes.
Can oracle perform recovery from inactive or "other status" redo log ?

Thank you.

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RE: Redo log size MAX = ?

2001-04-03 Thread Zhou, Tapiwanashe

hi
forget about recovery from online redo logs
It doesn't exist in Oracle

Regards
Tapiwa

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Hi,

My database = noarchive mode (compulsory for our application)
In case of instance failure can oracle perform recovery from redo log ? if
can what will be tne maximum size of the redo log recommended.
Because I need set that size for whole day transaction currently 512K (3
redo logs) switched every 15 - 30 minutes.
Can oracle perform recovery from inactive or "other status" redo log ?

Thank you.

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Re: Redo log size MAX = ?

2001-04-03 Thread William Beilstein

Why can't you use archiving? It doesn't effect the applications running on the 
database in anyway (except space to store the archives)

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/01 09:00AM >>>
Hi,

My database = noarchive mode (compulsory for our application)
In case of instance failure can oracle perform recovery from redo log ? if
can what will be tne maximum size of the redo log recommended.
Because I need set that size for whole day transaction currently 512K (3
redo logs) switched every 15 - 30 minutes.
Can oracle perform recovery from inactive or "other status" redo log ?

Thank you.

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Redo log size MAX = ?

2001-04-03 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi,

My database = noarchive mode (compulsory for our application)
In case of instance failure can oracle perform recovery from redo log ? if
can what will be tne maximum size of the redo log recommended.
Because I need set that size for whole day transaction currently 512K (3
redo logs) switched every 15 - 30 minutes.
Can oracle perform recovery from inactive or "other status" redo log ?

Thank you.

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