Re: TKProf Analyzer

2004-01-23 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi,

check out Mogens site, he has a PL/SQL tool for storing trace files
in a repository. Its called TraceFile Repository and was written by
Torben Holm and its free - have a look http://www.miracleas.dk/tools/Mir
TFR104.zip -t might be an alternative for you? - it has a web based
front end using htp and htf so is quite handy to view your trace files.

hope this helps

Kind regards

Pete
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TKProf Analyzer

2004-01-22 Thread k.sriramkumar
Dear Guru's

I am frequently running tkprof of a PL/SQL program and I would
like to have a repository of Tkprof output. I would like to build a
utility that would parse the tkprof output into different areas and
store it in the database.

Say we can split the tkprof output into 

1. Statement Section
2. Execution Statistics secion(parse,execute,fetch)
2. Explain plan section

I would use this repository for analyzing the change in the execution
plan/statistics.

Has any body used a tool for this ?

Your pointers are very much appriciated.

Best Regards

Sriram Kumar





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Help on tkprof output

2003-12-02 Thread jaysingh1
Hi Gurus,

Could someone shed some light on the following tkprof output.

To get 0 record it is aking more than 11 seconds. Also I see huge difference 
between CPU time and elapsed time even though the system is not so busy(It is a 
test machine. very low load on it). If you say it is waiting on something, could 
you tell me how to identify the wait event associated with this and how to 
rectify the same?

Also please let me know why the query count is very high?

 select countryname, e.lastupdatedate
from e e, p p, c c
where p.pid = e.pid
and p.hsbc_user_category='GIB'
and p.business_country_id=c.countryabbrev
and e.userstatusid in ( select userstatusid from userstatus )
and p.business_country_id in ( select countryabbrev from c )
order by countryname, e.lastupdatedate desc
   
  call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrentrows
  --- --   -- -- -- --  --
  Parse2  0.07   0.08  0  0  0   0
  Execute  2  0.00   0.02  0  0  0   0
  Fetch2 42.95 133.21  58730 118694 24   0
  --- --   -- -- -- --  --
  total6 43.02 133.31  58730 118694 24   0
   
  Misses in library cache during parse: 1
  Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
  Parsing user id: 165  
   
  Rows Row Source Operation
  ---  ---
0  SORT ORDER BY 
0   NESTED LOOPS 
1NESTED LOOPS 
 1590 HASH JOIN 
  239  TABLE ACCESS FULL c 
 1589  HASH JOIN 
  239   VIEW VW_NSO_1 
  239SORT UNIQUE 
  239 INDEX FAST FULL SCAN (object id 76648)
 1589   TABLE ACCESS FULL p 
 1589 TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID e 
 1589  INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 76709)
0INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 76899)
   
   
   
   
  
   
  OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
   
  call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrentrows
  --- --   -- -- -- --  --
  Parse4  0.07   0.08  0  0  0   0
  Execute  5  0.00   0.05  0  0  0   2
  Fetch2 42.95 133.21  58730 118694 24   0
  --- --   -- -- -- --  --
  total   11 43.02 133.34  58730 118694 24   2
   
  Misses in library cache during parse: 1

Thanks
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Re: Help on tkprof output

2003-12-02 Thread zhu chao
Hi,
It is spending a lot of time waiting for IO and something like that.
If you want to see what is the session waiting for ,just do:
alter session set timed_statistics = true; (ignore it if it is already true)
alter session set events '10046 trace name context forever,level 8';
--do your sql here.
find the trace file and tkprof(use oracle 9.2 tkprof if your oracle version is not 
9.2, not sure 9.0 will work)it like:
tkprof file=your_tracefile waits=y

For your SQL, I think more hash_join should be used instead of nested loop. Try it.

regards
Zhu Chao

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 Hi Gurus,
 
 Could someone shed some light on the following tkprof output.
 
 To get 0 record it is aking more than 11 seconds. Also I see huge difference 
 between CPU time and elapsed time even though the system is not so busy(It is a 
 test machine. very low load on it). If you say it is waiting on something, could 
 you tell me how to identify the wait event associated with this and how to 
 rectify the same?
 
 Also please let me know why the query count is very high?
 
  select countryname, e.lastupdatedate
 from e e, p p, c c
 where p.pid = e.pid
 and p.hsbc_user_category='GIB'
 and p.business_country_id=c.countryabbrev
 and e.userstatusid in ( select userstatusid from userstatus )
 and p.business_country_id in ( select countryabbrev from c )
 order by countryname, e.lastupdatedate desc

   call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrentrows
   --- --   -- -- -- --  --
   Parse2  0.07   0.08  0  0  0   0
   Execute  2  0.00   0.02  0  0  0   0
   Fetch2 42.95 133.21  58730 118694 24   0
   --- --   -- -- -- --  --
   total6 43.02 133.31  58730 118694 24   0

   Misses in library cache during parse: 1
   Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
   Parsing user id: 165  

   Rows Row Source Operation
   ---  ---
 0  SORT ORDER BY 
 0   NESTED LOOPS 
 1NESTED LOOPS 
  1590 HASH JOIN 
   239  TABLE ACCESS FULL c 
  1589  HASH JOIN 
   239   VIEW VW_NSO_1 
   239SORT UNIQUE 
   239 INDEX FAST FULL SCAN (object id 76648)
  1589   TABLE ACCESS FULL p 
  1589 TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID e 
  1589  INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 76709)
 0INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 76899)




   

   OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS

   call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrentrows
   --- --   -- -- -- --  --
   Parse4  0.07   0.08  0  0  0   0
   Execute  5  0.00   0.05  0  0  0   2
   Fetch2 42.95 133.21  58730 118694 24   0
   --- --   -- -- -- --  --
   total   11 43.02 133.34  58730 118694 24   2

   Misses in library cache during parse: 1
 
 Thanks
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RE: Help on tkprof output

2003-12-02 Thread Biddell, Ian


You full scans within the loops which are hitting the disks, ie.58730
which gives the big difference between cpu  elapsed as it's waiting for
IO
Also why do you need
and p.business_country_id=c.countryabbrev

As well as
and p.business_country_id in ( select countryabbrev from c )

Do you want to join to table c for any reason or do you just want to see
if the country abbreviation is in table c?
At the moment you are doing both.

SO maybe fine tune the SQL to only do what you really need it to and
your disk IO would go down along with your elapsed time.

Hth
Ian

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Hi Gurus,

Could someone shed some light on the following tkprof output.

To get 0 record it is aking more than 11 seconds. Also I see huge
difference between CPU time and elapsed time even though the system is
not so busy(It is a test machine. very low load on it). If you say it is
waiting on something, could you tell me how to identify the wait event
associated with this and how to rectify the same?

Also please let me know why the query count is very high?

 select countryname, e.lastupdatedate
from e e, p p, c c
where p.pid = e.pid
and p.hsbc_user_category='GIB'
and p.business_country_id=c.countryabbrev
and e.userstatusid in ( select userstatusid from userstatus )
and p.business_country_id in ( select countryabbrev from c )
order by countryname, e.lastupdatedate desc
   
  call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
  --- --   -- -- -- --
--
  Parse2  0.07   0.08  0  0  0
0
  Execute  2  0.00   0.02  0  0  0
0
  Fetch2 42.95 133.21  58730 118694 24
0
  --- --   -- -- -- --
--
  total6 43.02 133.31  58730 118694 24
0
   
  Misses in library cache during parse: 1
  Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
  Parsing user id: 165  
   
  Rows Row Source Operation
  ---  ---
0  SORT ORDER BY 
0   NESTED LOOPS 
1NESTED LOOPS 
 1590 HASH JOIN 
  239  TABLE ACCESS FULL c 
 1589  HASH JOIN 
  239   VIEW VW_NSO_1 
  239SORT UNIQUE 
  239 INDEX FAST FULL SCAN (object id 76648)
 1589   TABLE ACCESS FULL p 
 1589 TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID e 
 1589  INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 76709)
0INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 76899)
   
   
   
   
 


   
  OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
   
  call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
  --- --   -- -- -- --
--
  Parse4  0.07   0.08  0  0  0
0
  Execute  5  0.00   0.05  0  0  0
2
  Fetch2 42.95 133.21  58730 118694 24
0
  --- --   -- -- -- --
--
  total   11 43.02 133.34  58730 118694 24
2
   
  Misses in library cache during parse: 1

Thanks
Jay

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Re: Help on tkprof output

2003-12-02 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
I'm not so sure. The query returns no rows and the second to last nested 
loop already has only 1 row in the resultset. I'd try to determine what the 
most limiting condition is - or set of conditions - those that eliminate 
most rows early on and make sure the optimizer starts with that.

I could be mistaken, but the query appears odd. Isn't the condition and 
p.business_country_id in ( select countryabbrev from c ) 
nonsensical/superfluous in light of the condition and 
p.business_country_id=c.countryabbrev ?

 select countryname, e.lastupdatedate
from e e, p p, c c
where p.pid = e.pid
and p.hsbc_user_category='GIB'
and p.business_country_id=c.countryabbrev
and e.userstatusid in ( select userstatusid from userstatus )
and p.business_country_id in ( select countryabbrev from c )
order by countryname, e.lastupdatedate desc
At 06:59 PM 12/2/2003, you wrote:
Hi,
It is spending a lot of time waiting for IO and something like that.
If you want to see what is the session waiting for ,just do:
alter session set timed_statistics = true; (ignore it if it is 
already true)
alter session set events '10046 trace name context forever,level 8';
--do your sql here.
find the trace file and tkprof(use oracle 9.2 tkprof if your oracle 
version is not 9.2, not sure 9.0 will work)it like:
tkprof file=your_tracefile waits=y

For your SQL, I think more hash_join should be used instead of nested 
loop. Try it.

regards
Zhu Chao
Wolfgang Breitling
Oracle7, 8, 8i, 9i OCP DBA
Centrex Consulting Corporation
http://www.centrexcc.com 

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RE: Help on tkprof output

2003-12-02 Thread Sami
(select countryabbrev from c) subquery will have some more predicate (where
clause) to restric few countries. Basically I don't want to select all the
countries. For simplicity sake I remove those where clause(business logic).
Anyway EXECUTION PLAN will not get changed.


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You full scans within the loops which are hitting the disks, ie.58730
which gives the big difference between cpu  elapsed as it's waiting for
IO
Also why do you need
and p.business_country_id=c.countryabbrev

As well as
and p.business_country_id in ( select countryabbrev from c )

Do you want to join to table c for any reason or do you just want to see
if the country abbreviation is in table c?
At the moment you are doing both.

SO maybe fine tune the SQL to only do what you really need it to and
your disk IO would go down along with your elapsed time.

Hth
Ian

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Hi Gurus,

Could someone shed some light on the following tkprof output.

To get 0 record it is aking more than 11 seconds. Also I see huge
difference between CPU time and elapsed time even though the system is
not so busy(It is a test machine. very low load on it). If you say it is
waiting on something, could you tell me how to identify the wait event
associated with this and how to rectify the same?

Also please let me know why the query count is very high?

 select countryname, e.lastupdatedate
from e e, p p, c c
where p.pid = e.pid
and p.hsbc_user_category='GIB'
and p.business_country_id=c.countryabbrev
and e.userstatusid in ( select userstatusid from userstatus )
and p.business_country_id in ( select countryabbrev from c )
order by countryname, e.lastupdatedate desc

  call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
  --- --   -- -- -- --
--
  Parse2  0.07   0.08  0  0  0
0
  Execute  2  0.00   0.02  0  0  0
0
  Fetch2 42.95 133.21  58730 118694 24
0
  --- --   -- -- -- --
--
  total6 43.02 133.31  58730 118694 24
0

  Misses in library cache during parse: 1
  Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
  Parsing user id: 165

  Rows Row Source Operation
  ---  ---
0  SORT ORDER BY
0   NESTED LOOPS
1NESTED LOOPS
 1590 HASH JOIN
  239  TABLE ACCESS FULL c
 1589  HASH JOIN
  239   VIEW VW_NSO_1
  239SORT UNIQUE
  239 INDEX FAST FULL SCAN (object id 76648)
 1589   TABLE ACCESS FULL p
 1589 TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID e
 1589  INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 76709)
0INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 76899)








  OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS

  call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
  --- --   -- -- -- --
--
  Parse4  0.07   0.08  0  0  0
0
  Execute  5  0.00   0.05  0  0  0
2
  Fetch2 42.95 133.21  58730 118694 24
0
  --- --   -- -- -- --
--
  total   11 43.02 133.34  58730 118694 24
2

  Misses in library cache during parse: 1

Thanks
Jay

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RE: Help on tkprof output

2003-12-02 Thread Mark Richard




Depending on the where clauses added to the subqueries I would say there is
potential for the execution plan to change.  Especially if the column
matched to the IN clause is indexed.  You are correct in that the clause
may well be required but always be careful when performance tuning a
slightly different query - sometimes the difference in execution
time/plan can be surprising.



   
   
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(select countryabbrev from c) subquery will have some more predicate (where
clause) to restric few countries. Basically I don't want to select all the
countries. For simplicity sake I remove those where clause(business logic).
Anyway EXECUTION PLAN will not get changed.


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You full scans within the loops which are hitting the disks, ie.58730
which gives the big difference between cpu  elapsed as it's waiting for
IO
Also why do you need
and p.business_country_id=c.countryabbrev

As well as
and p.business_country_id in ( select countryabbrev from c )

Do you want to join to table c for any reason or do you just want to see
if the country abbreviation is in table c?
At the moment you are doing both.

SO maybe fine tune the SQL to only do what you really need it to and
your disk IO would go down along with your elapsed time.

Hth
Ian

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Hi Gurus,

Could someone shed some light on the following tkprof output.

To get 0 record it is aking more than 11 seconds. Also I see huge
difference between CPU time and elapsed time even though the system is
not so busy(It is a test machine. very low load on it). If you say it is
waiting on something, could you tell me how to identify the wait event
associated with this and how to rectify the same?

Also please let me know why the query count is very high?

 select countryname, e.lastupdatedate
from e e, p p, c c
where p.pid = e.pid
and p.hsbc_user_category='GIB'
and p.business_country_id=c.countryabbrev
and e.userstatusid in ( select userstatusid from userstatus )
and p.business_country_id in ( select countryabbrev from c )
order by countryname, e.lastupdatedate desc

  call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
  --- --   -- -- -- --
--
  Parse2  0.07   0.08  0  0  0
0
  Execute  2  0.00   0.02  0  0  0
0
  Fetch2 42.95 133.21  58730 118694 24
0
  --- --   -- -- -- --
--
  total6 43.02 133.31  58730 118694 24
0

  Misses in library cache during parse: 1
  Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
  Parsing user id: 165

  Rows Row Source Operation
  ---  ---
0  SORT ORDER BY
0   NESTED LOOPS
1NESTED LOOPS

More help with TKPROF

2003-11-13 Thread Barbara Baker
List:
My apologies.  Seems like I'm taking up more than my
share of bandwith.  I'm doing major battle with a
vendor.  Their app runs this thing that takes 10
seconds.  Unfortunately it runs this thing several
thousand times a day.  This is a critical issue for
us.

I trapped what's running in that 10 seconds.  The code
looks just swell.  Seems pretty obvious to me that the
problem is with the large number of parses occurring. 
I see 1 spot where they parse 5 times and return 0
rows; another where they parse, execute, and fetch 5
times for no obvious reason.

We do not have access to the vendor code. The vendor
says set cursor_sharing to force.  I say that's
solving the wrong problem.

First naive question:  Without their code, is there
any way for me to know what could cause this large
number of parses?

2nd question: I see an exact match between the number
of parses and the times waited on sql*net message to
client.  Is this coincidence, or can I make some
correlation here?

Thanks so much for your patience and your help.
Database is 8.1.7.4 on Solaris 8.

Barb

SELECT PAPER, PAGE, PAGENAME, PAGENO, COLUMNS,
COLWIDTH, COLSPACE, HEIGHT 
FROM PAGE

call count   cpuelapsed   disk 
querycurrentrows
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
Parse2  0.02   0.02  0
 0  0   0
Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0
 0  0   0
Fetch1  0.01   0.01  0
13 12  72
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
total4  0.03   0.03  0
13 12  72

Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 586  (SYSADMIN)

Rows Execution Plan
--- 
---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  0   TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (FULL) OF
'PAGE'


Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
  Event waited on Times  
Max. Wait  Total Waited
     Waited 
--  
  SQL*Net message to client   2   
0.00  0.00
  SQL*Net message from client 2   
0.00  0.00
  SQL*Net more data to client 1   
0.00  0.00


SELECT PAPER, PAGE, PAGENAME, PAGENO, COLUMNS,
COLWIDTH, COLSPACE, HEIGHT 
FROM
 PAGE WHERE PAPER = :1 AND PAGE = :2


call count   cpuelapsed   disk 
querycurrentrows
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
Parse2  0.00   0.01  0
 0  0   0
Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0
 0  0   0
Fetch1  0.00   0.00  0
 2  0   1
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
total4  0.00   0.01  0
 2  0   1

Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Parsing user id: 586  (SYSADMIN)

Rows Execution Plan
--- 
---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  0   TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX
ROWID) OF 'PAGE'
  0INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (UNIQUE SCAN) OF
'I_PAG1' (UNIQUE)


Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
  Event waited on Times  
Max. Wait  Total Waited
     Waited 
--  
  SQL*Net message to client   2   
0.00  0.00
  SQL*Net message from client 2   
0.09  0.09


SELECT HID, PARENT, CHILD, NODE_TYPE, NODE_ITEM, TAG,
ATTRIBUTE_ITEM 
FROM
 XMLS_HIERARCHY WHERE HID = :1


call count   cpuelapsed   disk 
querycurrentrows
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
Parse5  0.00   0.00  0
 0  0   0
Execute  0  0.00   0.00  0
 0  0   0
Fetch0  0.00   0.00  0
 0  0   0
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
total5  0.00   0.00  0
 0  0   0

Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Parsing user id: 586  (SYSADMIN)

Rows Execution Plan
--- 
---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  0   TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX
ROWID) OF 
  'XMLS_HIERARCHY'
  0INDEX   

Re: More help with TKPROF

2003-11-13 Thread Mladen Gogala

On 11/13/2003 10:09:26 AM, Barbara Baker wrote:

 First naive question:  Without their code, is there
 any way for me to know what could cause this large
 number of parses?

Large number of parses can be caused by executing dynamic SQL, or not using
bind variables. One way to try amending this would setting CURSOR_SHARE 
to FORCE, but in 8i it's a dangerous thing to do and can break many other
things. Another way would be to negotiate with the vendor and ask him to reduce 
number of parses and use bind variables.
I'm sure that the three of you can successfully negotiate with any vendor.

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RE: More help with TKPROF

2003-11-13 Thread Cary Millsap
Not a coincidence. See Optimizing Oracle Performance, Chapter 12, Case
3: Large SQL*Net Event Duration on pages 337-344. See also the SQL*Net
material on pp311-315.


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-Original Message-
Barbara Baker
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:09 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

List:
My apologies.  Seems like I'm taking up more than my
share of bandwith.  I'm doing major battle with a
vendor.  Their app runs this thing that takes 10
seconds.  Unfortunately it runs this thing several
thousand times a day.  This is a critical issue for
us.

I trapped what's running in that 10 seconds.  The code
looks just swell.  Seems pretty obvious to me that the
problem is with the large number of parses occurring. 
I see 1 spot where they parse 5 times and return 0
rows; another where they parse, execute, and fetch 5
times for no obvious reason.

We do not have access to the vendor code. The vendor
says set cursor_sharing to force.  I say that's
solving the wrong problem.

First naive question:  Without their code, is there
any way for me to know what could cause this large
number of parses?

2nd question: I see an exact match between the number
of parses and the times waited on sql*net message to
client.  Is this coincidence, or can I make some
correlation here?

Thanks so much for your patience and your help.
Database is 8.1.7.4 on Solaris 8.

Barb

SELECT PAPER, PAGE, PAGENAME, PAGENO, COLUMNS,
COLWIDTH, COLSPACE, HEIGHT 
FROM PAGE

call count   cpuelapsed   disk 
querycurrentrows
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
Parse2  0.02   0.02  0
 0  0   0
Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0
 0  0   0
Fetch1  0.01   0.01  0
13 12  72
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
total4  0.03   0.03  0
13 12  72

Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 586  (SYSADMIN)

Rows Execution Plan
--- 
---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  0   TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (FULL) OF
'PAGE'


Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
  Event waited on Times  
Max. Wait  Total Waited
     Waited 
--  
  SQL*Net message to client   2   
0.00  0.00
  SQL*Net message from client 2   
0.00  0.00
  SQL*Net more data to client 1   
0.00  0.00



SELECT PAPER, PAGE, PAGENAME, PAGENO, COLUMNS,
COLWIDTH, COLSPACE, HEIGHT 
FROM
 PAGE WHERE PAPER = :1 AND PAGE = :2


call count   cpuelapsed   disk 
querycurrentrows
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
Parse2  0.00   0.01  0
 0  0   0
Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0
 0  0   0
Fetch1  0.00   0.00  0
 2  0   1
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
total4  0.00   0.01  0
 2  0   1

Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Parsing user id: 586  (SYSADMIN)

Rows Execution Plan
--- 
---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  0   TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX
ROWID) OF 'PAGE'
  0INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (UNIQUE SCAN) OF
'I_PAG1' (UNIQUE)


Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
  Event waited on Times  
Max. Wait  Total Waited
     Waited 
--  
  SQL*Net message to client   2   
0.00  0.00
  SQL*Net message from client 2   
0.09  0.09



SELECT HID, PARENT, CHILD, NODE_TYPE, NODE_ITEM, TAG,
ATTRIBUTE_ITEM 
FROM
 XMLS_HIERARCHY WHERE HID = :1


call count   cpuelapsed   disk 
querycurrentrows
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
Parse5  0.00   0.00  0
 0  0   0
Execute  0  0.00   0.00  0
 0  0 

Re: More help with TKPROF

2003-11-13 Thread Jared . Still

Since this is COTS, you may not be able to *fix* the problem, but you
may be able to circumvent it .

We have an app here which has amazing amounts of ugly SQL, with
a corresponding lack of bind variables. 

I could not fix that, but I could fix very poorly performing SQL by the judicious
application of optimizer_index_caching, optimizer_index_cost_adjust,
optmizer_max_permutations, some new indexes and histograms on 
selected columns.

You may have too many parses, but if parses are only 10% of your
response time problem, and you decrease parse time by 50%, you
have still only increased response time by 5%, or 0.5 seconds in
the case of the transaction in question.

W never did fix the parsing problem, but did greatly increase the 
the performance of the application. I am currently working on yet
another problem for this app. Simple SQL tuning.

I'm sure that many of us here can't recommend 'Optimizing Oracle
Performance' enough. It will provide a foundation for solving performance
problems that would be rather difficult to pick up by reading this list, or
by reading most ( 99% ) of the tuning books available.

HTH

Jared







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List:
My apologies. Seems like I'm taking up more than my
share of bandwith. I'm doing major battle with a
vendor. Their app runs this thing that takes 10
seconds. Unfortunately it runs this thing several
thousand times a day. This is a critical issue for
us.

I trapped what's running in that 10 seconds. The code
looks just swell. Seems pretty obvious to me that the
problem is with the large number of parses occurring. 
I see 1 spot where they parse 5 times and return 0
rows; another where they parse, execute, and fetch 5
times for no obvious reason.

We do not have access to the vendor code. The vendor
says set cursor_sharing to force. I say that's
solving the wrong problem.

First naive question: Without their code, is there
any way for me to know what could cause this large
number of parses?

2nd question: I see an exact match between the number
of parses and the times waited on sql*net message to
client. Is this coincidence, or can I make some
correlation here?

Thanks so much for your patience and your help.
Database is 8.1.7.4 on Solaris 8.

Barb

SELECT PAPER, PAGE, PAGENAME, PAGENO, COLUMNS,
COLWIDTH, COLSPACE, HEIGHT 
FROM PAGE

call   countcpu  elapseddisk   
query  currentrows
--- --  -- --
-- -- --
Parse2   0.020.02 0
 0 0  0
Execute   1   0.000.00 0
 0 0  0
Fetch1   0.010.01 0
13 12 72
--- --  -- --
-- -- --
total4   0.030.03 0
13 12 72

Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 586 (SYSADMIN)

Rows   Execution Plan
--- 
---
   0 SELECT STATEMENT  GOAL: CHOOSE
   0  TABLE ACCESS  GOAL: ANALYZED (FULL) OF
'PAGE'


Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
 Event waited on   Times 
Max. Wait Total Waited
   Waited 
-- 
 SQL*Net message to client2  
  0.00 0.00
 SQL*Net message from client   2  
  0.00 0.00
 SQL*Net more data to client   1  
  0.00 0.00


SELECT PAPER, PAGE, PAGENAME, PAGENO, COLUMNS,
COLWIDTH, COLSPACE, HEIGHT 
FROM
 PAGE WHERE PAPER = :1 AND PAGE = :2


call   countcpu  elapseddisk   
query  currentrows
--- --  -- --
-- -- --
Parse2   0.000.01 0
 0 0  0
Execute   1   0.000.00 0
 0 0  0
Fetch1   0.000.00 0
 2 0  1
--- --  -- --
-- -- --
total4   0.000.01 0
2 0  1

Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Parsing user id: 586 (SYSADMIN)

Rows   Execution Plan
--- 
---
   0 SELECT STATEMENT  GOAL: CHOOSE
   0  TABLE ACCESS  GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX
ROWID) OF 'PAGE'
   0  INDEX  GOAL: ANALYZED (UNIQUE SCAN) OF
'I_PAG1' (UNIQUE)


Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
 Event waited on   Times 
Max. Wait Total Waited
   Waited 
-- 
 SQL*Net message to client2  
  0.00 0.00
 SQL*Net message from client   2  
  0.09 0.09


SELECT HID, PARENT, CHILD, NODE_TYPE, NODE_ITEM, TAG

Help Interpreting TKProf

2003-11-12 Thread Barbara Baker
Hi.
I'm running tkprof on my PC with a version 9i client.
The trace file was generated on a Solars version
8.1.7.4 database.  (I'm using tkprof on 9i to get wait
statistics.)  The trace is 10046 level 12

I assume the time waited is in addition to the elapsed
time for the call -- correct?

Since the database itself is 8i, does that mean that
the wait stats are in centiseconds?  I want to know
what the sql*net message from client wait time of
10.73 represents:

Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
  Event waited onTimes   Max. Wait Total
Waited
     Waited  --  -
  SQL*Net message to client   8   0.00   0.00
  SQL*Net message from client 8  10.71  10.73


Here's all the code:

select /*ClassSQL*/ distinct co.class,cl.claname  
from
 classorder co,class cl  where co.paper='DNA' and
co.page='EM'   and co.class=
  cl.class and co.paper=cl.paper and cl.clatype='0'
order by 1


call count   cpuelapsed   disk 
querycurrentrows
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
Parse1  0.01   0.01  0
 0  0   0
Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0
 0  0   0
Fetch8  0.01   0.01  0   
169  0  82
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
total   10  0.02   0.02  0   
169  0  82

Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 586  (SYSADMIN)

Rows Row Source Operation
--- 
---
 82  SORT UNIQUE 
 82   NESTED LOOPS 
 83INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 395118)
 82TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID CLASS 
164 INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 395113)


Rows Execution Plan
--- 
---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
 82   SORT (UNIQUE)
 82NESTED LOOPS
 83 INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF
'I_CLO1' (NON-UNIQUE)

 82 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX
ROWID) OF 'CLASS'
164  INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (UNIQUE SCAN) OF
'I_CLA1' (UNIQUE)




Thanks for any help.

Barb




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Re: Help Interpreting TKProf

2003-11-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
Barbs, what this trace file tells you is that the client program
takes much more time delivering the data to oracle then it takes
for oracle to deliver the data to the program. In other words, your
program takes its time between the calls to the database. Maybe you
should run the profiler and see where time in the program is spent.
On 11/12/2003 01:09:24 PM, Barbara Baker wrote:
 Hi.
 I'm running tkprof on my PC with a version 9i client.
 The trace file was generated on a Solars version
 8.1.7.4 database.  (I'm using tkprof on 9i to get wait
 statistics.)  The trace is 10046 level 12
 
 I assume the time waited is in addition to the elapsed
 time for the call -- correct?
 
 Since the database itself is 8i, does that mean that
 the wait stats are in centiseconds?  I want to know
 what the sql*net message from client wait time of
 10.73 represents:
 
 Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
   Event waited onTimes   Max. Wait Total
 Waited
      Waited  --  -
   SQL*Net message to client   8   0.00   0.00
   SQL*Net message from client 8  10.71  10.73
 
 
 Here's all the code:
 
 select /*ClassSQL*/ distinct co.class,cl.claname  
 from
  classorder co,class cl  where co.paper='DNA' and
 co.page='EM'   and co.class=
   cl.class and co.paper=cl.paper and cl.clatype='0'
 order by 1
 
 
 call count   cpuelapsed   disk 
 querycurrentrows
 --- --   -- --
 -- --  --
 Parse1  0.01   0.01  0
  0  0   0
 Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0
  0  0   0
 Fetch8  0.01   0.01  0   
 169  0  82
 --- --   -- --
 -- --  --
 total   10  0.02   0.02  0   
 169  0  82
 
 Misses in library cache during parse: 1
 Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
 Parsing user id: 586  (SYSADMIN)
 
 Rows Row Source Operation
 --- 
 ---
  82  SORT UNIQUE 
  82   NESTED LOOPS 
  83INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 395118)
  82TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID CLASS 
 164 INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 395113)
 
 
 Rows Execution Plan
 --- 
 ---
   0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  82   SORT (UNIQUE)
  82NESTED LOOPS
  83 INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF
 'I_CLO1' (NON-UNIQUE)
 
  82 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX
 ROWID) OF 'CLASS'
 164  INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (UNIQUE SCAN) OF
 'I_CLA1' (UNIQUE)
 
 
 
 
 Thanks for any help.
 
 Barb
 
 
 
 
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Re: Help Interpreting TKProf

2003-11-12 Thread Daniel Fink
Barb,

This is a great example of where reading the trace file will tell you
what you need to know. Is the 10 centiseconds of time in 8 1.25
centisecond events or in 1 10 centisecond event and 7 .1 centisecond
events?  The location (parse/execute/fetch/post tx) are also important.

Daniel

Barbara Baker wrote:

 Hi.
 I'm running tkprof on my PC with a version 9i client.
 The trace file was generated on a Solars version
 8.1.7.4 database.  (I'm using tkprof on 9i to get wait
 statistics.)  The trace is 10046 level 12

 I assume the time waited is in addition to the elapsed
 time for the call -- correct?

 Since the database itself is 8i, does that mean that
 the wait stats are in centiseconds?  I want to know
 what the sql*net message from client wait time of
 10.73 represents:

 Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
   Event waited onTimes   Max. Wait Total
 Waited
      Waited  --  -
   SQL*Net message to client   8   0.00   0.00
   SQL*Net message from client 8  10.71  10.73

 Here's all the code:

 select /*ClassSQL*/ distinct co.class,cl.claname
 from
  classorder co,class cl  where co.paper='DNA' and
 co.page='EM'   and co.class=
   cl.class and co.paper=cl.paper and cl.clatype='0'
 order by 1

 call count   cpuelapsed   disk
 querycurrentrows
 --- --   -- --
 -- --  --
 Parse1  0.01   0.01  0
  0  0   0
 Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0
  0  0   0
 Fetch8  0.01   0.01  0
 169  0  82
 --- --   -- --
 -- --  --
 total   10  0.02   0.02  0
 169  0  82

 Misses in library cache during parse: 1
 Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
 Parsing user id: 586  (SYSADMIN)

 Rows Row Source Operation
 ---
 ---
  82  SORT UNIQUE
  82   NESTED LOOPS
  83INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 395118)
  82TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID CLASS
 164 INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 395113)

 Rows Execution Plan
 ---
 ---
   0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  82   SORT (UNIQUE)
  82NESTED LOOPS
  83 INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF
 'I_CLO1' (NON-UNIQUE)

  82 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX
 ROWID) OF 'CLASS'
 164  INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (UNIQUE SCAN) OF
 'I_CLA1' (UNIQUE)

 Thanks for any help.

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RE: Help Interpreting TKProf

2003-11-12 Thread Cary Millsap
Barb,

I think tkprof prints output in seconds, so I think you're looking at
10.73 seconds of response time here.

First, some definitions:

- The SQL*Net message from client event maps to an OS read() call to
the file descriptor to which SQL*Net is connected.

- The SQL*Net message to client event maps to an OS write() call to
the file descriptor to which SQL*Net is connected.

The Oracle kernel uses a to event just to write a short message (often
1 byte) to a pipe. It takes practically no time to do that--usually on
the order of 3 microseconds (0.03 seconds).

However, as soon as a given to event completes, the kernel often next
executes a read() from the same file descriptor. The duration of this
read() is what ultimately shows up as the from event's duration.

What this means is that all the time spent in the following tiers gets
logged as SQL*Net message from client (see p13 of my book for a
picture):

- comm from db server to apps server
- apps server computation time
- comm from apps server to browser
- browser computation time
- user think time
- comm from browser to apps server
- apps server computation time
- comm from apps server to db server

Thus you'll almost always (maybe even always always) see from events
lasting longer than to events.

Getting good information out of SQL*Net message from client is
possible only if you are careful in how you collect your trace data. If,
for example, you allow 10 seconds of user think time into your trace
data, then it forces you to do a lot more analytical work on your trace
data to properly ignore the right data--unless, of course, the thing
you need to find out is that the user is wasting your business's time by
consuming 10 seconds instead of 2.

Optimizing Oracle Performance covers all this in great detail.


Cary Millsap
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-Original Message-
Barbara Baker
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:09 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Hi.
I'm running tkprof on my PC with a version 9i client.
The trace file was generated on a Solars version
8.1.7.4 database.  (I'm using tkprof on 9i to get wait
statistics.)  The trace is 10046 level 12

I assume the time waited is in addition to the elapsed
time for the call -- correct?

Since the database itself is 8i, does that mean that
the wait stats are in centiseconds?  I want to know
what the sql*net message from client wait time of
10.73 represents:

Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
  Event waited onTimes   Max. Wait Total
Waited
     Waited  --  -
  SQL*Net message to client   8   0.00   0.00
  SQL*Net message from client 8  10.71  10.73


Here's all the code:

select /*ClassSQL*/ distinct co.class,cl.claname  
from
 classorder co,class cl  where co.paper='DNA' and
co.page='EM'   and co.class=
  cl.class and co.paper=cl.paper and cl.clatype='0'
order by 1


call count   cpuelapsed   disk 
querycurrentrows
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
Parse1  0.01   0.01  0
 0  0   0
Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0
 0  0   0
Fetch8  0.01   0.01  0   
169  0  82
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
total   10  0.02   0.02  0   
169  0  82

Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 586  (SYSADMIN)

Rows Row Source Operation
--- 
---
 82  SORT UNIQUE 
 82   NESTED LOOPS 
 83INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 395118)
 82TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID CLASS 
164 INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 395113)


Rows Execution Plan
--- 
---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
 82   SORT (UNIQUE)
 82NESTED LOOPS
 83 INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF
'I_CLO1' (NON-UNIQUE)

 82 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX
ROWID) OF 'CLASS'
164  INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (UNIQUE SCAN) OF
'I_CLA1' (UNIQUE)




Thanks for any help.

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Re: Help Interpreting TKProf

2003-11-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
In other words, you can finish performance analysis of the client
only by finding out where the time is spent on the client side.
If it's an interactive program and you have a homo sapiens interacting
with it, then think time is a factor. If, on the other hand, it's 
a batch program, then run a profiler (gprof, Jprof or alike) to find
out where the time is spent.
On 11/12/2003 02:09:28 PM, Cary Millsap wrote:
 Barb,
 
 I think tkprof prints output in seconds, so I think you're looking at
 10.73 seconds of response time here.
 
 First, some definitions:
 
 - The SQL*Net message from client event maps to an OS read() call to
 the file descriptor to which SQL*Net is connected.
 
 - The SQL*Net message to client event maps to an OS write() call to
 the file descriptor to which SQL*Net is connected.
 
 The Oracle kernel uses a to event just to write a short message (often
 1 byte) to a pipe. It takes practically no time to do that--usually on
 the order of 3 microseconds (0.03 seconds).
 
 However, as soon as a given to event completes, the kernel often next
 executes a read() from the same file descriptor. The duration of this
 read() is what ultimately shows up as the from event's duration.
 
 What this means is that all the time spent in the following tiers gets
 logged as SQL*Net message from client (see p13 of my book for a
 picture):
 
 - comm from db server to apps server
 - apps server computation time
 - comm from apps server to browser
 - browser computation time
 - user think time
 - comm from browser to apps server
 - apps server computation time
 - comm from apps server to db server
 
 Thus you'll almost always (maybe even always always) see from events
 lasting longer than to events.
 
 Getting good information out of SQL*Net message from client is
 possible only if you are careful in how you collect your trace data. If,
 for example, you allow 10 seconds of user think time into your trace
 data, then it forces you to do a lot more analytical work on your trace
 data to properly ignore the right data--unless, of course, the thing
 you need to find out is that the user is wasting your business's time by
 consuming 10 seconds instead of 2.
 
 Optimizing Oracle Performance covers all this in great detail.
 
 
 Cary Millsap
 Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
 http://www.hotsos.com
 
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 -Original Message-
 Barbara Baker
 Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:09 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 Hi.
 I'm running tkprof on my PC with a version 9i client.
 The trace file was generated on a Solars version
 8.1.7.4 database.  (I'm using tkprof on 9i to get wait
 statistics.)  The trace is 10046 level 12
 
 I assume the time waited is in addition to the elapsed
 time for the call -- correct?
 
 Since the database itself is 8i, does that mean that
 the wait stats are in centiseconds?  I want to know
 what the sql*net message from client wait time of
 10.73 represents:
 
 Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
   Event waited onTimes   Max. Wait Total
 Waited
      Waited  --  -
   SQL*Net message to client   8   0.00   0.00
   SQL*Net message from client 8  10.71  10.73
 
 
 Here's all the code:
 
 select /*ClassSQL*/ distinct co.class,cl.claname  
 from
  classorder co,class cl  where co.paper='DNA' and
 co.page='EM'   and co.class=
   cl.class and co.paper=cl.paper and cl.clatype='0'
 order by 1
 
 
 call count   cpuelapsed   disk 
 querycurrentrows
 --- --   -- --
 -- --  --
 Parse1  0.01   0.01  0
  0  0   0
 Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0
  0  0   0
 Fetch8  0.01   0.01  0   
 169  0  82
 --- --   -- --
 -- --  --
 total   10  0.02   0.02  0   
 169  0  82
 
 Misses in library cache during parse: 1
 Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
 Parsing user id: 586  (SYSADMIN)
 
 Rows Row Source Operation
 --- 
 ---
  82  SORT UNIQUE 
  82   NESTED LOOPS 
  83INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 395118)
  82TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID CLASS 
 164 INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 395113)
 
 
 Rows Execution Plan
 --- 
 ---
   0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  82   SORT (UNIQUE)
  82NESTED LOOPS
  83 INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF
 'I_CLO1' (NON-UNIQUE)
 
  82 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX
 ROWID) OF 'CLASS'
 164  INDEX

Re: Help Interpreting TKProf

2003-11-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
Daniel, it's seconds, not centiseconds. The tkprof writes things down
in seconds. If it's a 9i trace, then the times within trc files are in 
microseconds. In trc file produced by 8i, it's centiseconds. By some magic,
tkprof knows the difference and usually gets the right times.

On 11/12/2003 01:49:34 PM, Daniel Fink wrote:
 Barb,
 
 This is a great example of where reading the trace file will tell you
 what you need to know. Is the 10 centiseconds of time in 8 1.25
 centisecond events or in 1 10 centisecond event and 7 .1 centisecond
 events?  The location (parse/execute/fetch/post tx) are also important.
 
 Daniel
 
 Barbara Baker wrote:
 
  Hi.
  I'm running tkprof on my PC with a version 9i client.
  The trace file was generated on a Solars version
  8.1.7.4 database.  (I'm using tkprof on 9i to get wait
  statistics.)  The trace is 10046 level 12
 
  I assume the time waited is in addition to the elapsed
  time for the call -- correct?
 
  Since the database itself is 8i, does that mean that
  the wait stats are in centiseconds?  I want to know
  what the sql*net message from client wait time of
  10.73 represents:
 
  Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
Event waited onTimes   Max. Wait Total
  Waited
   Waited  --  -
SQL*Net message to client   8   0.00   0.00
SQL*Net message from client 8  10.71  10.73
 
  Here's all the code:
 
  select /*ClassSQL*/ distinct co.class,cl.claname
  from
   classorder co,class cl  where co.paper='DNA' and
  co.page='EM'   and co.class=
cl.class and co.paper=cl.paper and cl.clatype='0'
  order by 1
 
  call count   cpuelapsed   disk
  querycurrentrows
  --- --   -- --
  -- --  --
  Parse1  0.01   0.01  0
   0  0   0
  Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0
   0  0   0
  Fetch8  0.01   0.01  0
  169  0  82
  --- --   -- --
  -- --  --
  total   10  0.02   0.02  0
  169  0  82
 
  Misses in library cache during parse: 1
  Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
  Parsing user id: 586  (SYSADMIN)
 
  Rows Row Source Operation
  ---
  ---
   82  SORT UNIQUE
   82   NESTED LOOPS
   83INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 395118)
   82TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID CLASS
  164 INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 395113)
 
  Rows Execution Plan
  ---
  ---
0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
   82   SORT (UNIQUE)
   82NESTED LOOPS
   83 INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF
  'I_CLO1' (NON-UNIQUE)
 
   82 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX
  ROWID) OF 'CLASS'
  164  INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (UNIQUE SCAN) OF
  'I_CLA1' (UNIQUE)
 
  Thanks for any help.
 
  Barb
 
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Re: Help Interpreting TKProf

2003-11-12 Thread Barbara Baker
Daniel:
Does this mean I was supposed to be paying attention
in class??  

Here's everything I can find associated with sql*net
message from client in that cursor.  Can't figure out
from this how it came up with 10.73 (although that one
wait matches up with the max wait of 10.71)

Am I being really dense?
WAIT!!  don't answer that!


WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 1
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 1
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 1071
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0






--- Daniel Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Barb,
 
 This is a great example of where reading the trace
 file will tell you
 what you need to know. Is the 10 centiseconds of
 time in 8 1.25
 centisecond events or in 1 10 centisecond event and
 7 .1 centisecond
 events?  The location (parse/execute/fetch/post tx)
 are also important.
 
 Daniel
 
 Barbara Baker wrote:
 
  Hi.
  I'm running tkprof on my PC with a version 9i
 client.
  The trace file was generated on a Solars version
  8.1.7.4 database.  (I'm using tkprof on 9i to get
 wait
  statistics.)  The trace is 10046 level 12
 
  I assume the time waited is in addition to the
 elapsed
  time for the call -- correct?
 
  Since the database itself is 8i, does that mean
 that
  the wait stats are in centiseconds?  I want to
 know
  what the sql*net message from client wait time of
  10.73 represents:
 
  Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
Event waited onTimes   Max. Wait Total
  Waited
   Waited  -- 
 -
SQL*Net message to client   8   0.00  
 0.00
SQL*Net message from client 8  10.71 
 10.73
 
  Here's all the code:
 
  select /*ClassSQL*/ distinct co.class,cl.claname
  from
   classorder co,class cl  where co.paper='DNA' and
  co.page='EM'   and co.class=
cl.class and co.paper=cl.paper and
 cl.clatype='0'
  order by 1
 
  call count   cpuelapsed   disk
  querycurrentrows
  --- --   -- --
  -- --  --
  Parse1  0.01   0.01  0
   0  0   0
  Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0
   0  0   0
  Fetch8  0.01   0.01  0
  169  0  82
  --- --   -- --
  -- --  --
  total   10  0.02   0.02  0
  169  0  82
 
  Misses in library cache during parse: 1
  Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
  Parsing user id: 586  (SYSADMIN)
 
  Rows Row Source Operation
  ---
 
 ---
   82  SORT UNIQUE
   82   NESTED LOOPS
   83INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 395118)
   82TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID CLASS
  164 INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 395113)
 
  Rows Execution Plan
  ---
 
 ---
0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
   82   SORT (UNIQUE)
   82NESTED LOOPS
   83 INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF
  'I_CLO1' (NON-UNIQUE)
 
   82 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY
 INDEX
  ROWID) OF 'CLASS'
  164  INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (UNIQUE SCAN)
 OF
  'I_CLA1' (UNIQUE)
 
  Thanks for any help.
 
  Barb
 
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Re: Help Interpreting TKProf

2003-11-12 Thread Daniel Fink
Barbara,

I know how distracted you were with all the jokes being tossed about,
but really...

It looks to me (with just this snippet of trace) that the cursor #3 did
some communication and then waited for 10 seconds for a response.
Without seeing the raw trace file and sequence of events, this is my
best guess.

Daniel

Barbara Baker wrote:

 Daniel:
 Does this mean I was supposed to be paying attention
 in class??

 Here's everything I can find associated with sql*net
 message from client in that cursor.  Can't figure out
 from this how it came up with 10.73 (although that one
 wait matches up with the max wait of 10.71)

 Am I being really dense?
 WAIT!!  don't answer that!

 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 1

wait_time =  1 centisecond


 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 1

wait_time = wait_time (1 cs) + 1 cs = 2 cs


 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 1071
 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0

wait_time = wait_time(2 cs) + 1071 cs = 1073 cs

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RE: Help Interpreting TKProf

2003-11-12 Thread Cary Millsap
Barb,

What you're really after is called forward attribution in the book.
You need to see the dbcall that immediately follows each WAIT
nam='SQL*Net message from client' event in the trace file. This will
tell you what database call's execution it was that ended the read().


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-Original Message-
Daniel Fink
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:35 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Barbara,

I know how distracted you were with all the jokes being tossed about,
but really...

It looks to me (with just this snippet of trace) that the cursor #3 did
some communication and then waited for 10 seconds for a response.
Without seeing the raw trace file and sequence of events, this is my
best guess.

Daniel

Barbara Baker wrote:

 Daniel:
 Does this mean I was supposed to be paying attention
 in class??

 Here's everything I can find associated with sql*net
 message from client in that cursor.  Can't figure out
 from this how it came up with 10.73 (although that one
 wait matches up with the max wait of 10.71)

 Am I being really dense?
 WAIT!!  don't answer that!

 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 1

wait_time =  1 centisecond


 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 1

wait_time = wait_time (1 cs) + 1 cs = 2 cs


 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 1071
 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0

wait_time = wait_time(2 cs) + 1071 cs = 1073 cs

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RE: Help Interpreting TKProf

2003-11-12 Thread Cary Millsap
To finish off the answer to your direct question, compute the sum of the
ela values shown in your excerpt:

   0 cs
   0
   1
   0
   0
   0
   1
1071
---
1073 cs = 10.73 seconds


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-Original Message-
Barbara Baker
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 1:59 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Daniel:
Does this mean I was supposed to be paying attention
in class??  

Here's everything I can find associated with sql*net
message from client in that cursor.  Can't figure out
from this how it came up with 10.73 (although that one
wait matches up with the max wait of 10.71)

Am I being really dense?
WAIT!!  don't answer that!


WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 1
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 0
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 1
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #3: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 1071
p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0






--- Daniel Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Barb,
 
 This is a great example of where reading the trace
 file will tell you
 what you need to know. Is the 10 centiseconds of
 time in 8 1.25
 centisecond events or in 1 10 centisecond event and
 7 .1 centisecond
 events?  The location (parse/execute/fetch/post tx)
 are also important.
 
 Daniel
 
 Barbara Baker wrote:
 
  Hi.
  I'm running tkprof on my PC with a version 9i
 client.
  The trace file was generated on a Solars version
  8.1.7.4 database.  (I'm using tkprof on 9i to get
 wait
  statistics.)  The trace is 10046 level 12
 
  I assume the time waited is in addition to the
 elapsed
  time for the call -- correct?
 
  Since the database itself is 8i, does that mean
 that
  the wait stats are in centiseconds?  I want to
 know
  what the sql*net message from client wait time of
  10.73 represents:
 
  Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
Event waited onTimes   Max. Wait Total
  Waited
   Waited  -- 
 -
SQL*Net message to client   8   0.00  
 0.00
SQL*Net message from client 8  10.71 
 10.73
 
  Here's all the code:
 
  select /*ClassSQL*/ distinct co.class,cl.claname
  from
   classorder co,class cl  where co.paper='DNA' and
  co.page='EM'   and co.class=
cl.class and co.paper=cl.paper and
 cl.clatype='0'
  order by 1
 
  call count   cpuelapsed   disk
  querycurrentrows
  --- --   -- --
  -- --  --
  Parse1  0.01   0.01  0
   0  0   0
  Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0
   0  0   0
  Fetch8  0.01   0.01  0
  169  0  82
  --- --   -- --
  -- --  --
  total   10  0.02   0.02  0
  169  0  82
 
  Misses in library cache during parse: 1
  Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
  Parsing user id: 586  (SYSADMIN)
 
  Rows Row Source Operation
  ---
 
 ---
   82  SORT UNIQUE
   82   NESTED LOOPS
   83INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 395118)
   82TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID CLASS
  164 INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 395113)
 
  Rows Execution Plan
  ---
 
 ---
0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
   82   SORT (UNIQUE)
   82NESTED LOOPS
   83 INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF
  'I_CLO1' (NON-UNIQUE)
 
   82 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY
 INDEX
  ROWID) OF 'CLASS'
  164  INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (UNIQUE SCAN)
 OF
  'I_CLA1' (UNIQUE)
 
  Thanks for any help.
 
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tkprof issues - was Performance Problem

2003-08-27 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: Message



unable to allocate space of size 48 (couple of time 
50).

run as root too so no ulimits ...

Raj
 
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot 
com All Views expressed in this email 
are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod 
can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! 

  -Original Message-From: Mladen Gogala 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:50 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Performance Problem
  Nope, you're the first. What happened? Segmentation violation? If that 
  is so, I'd like to know, because
  not 
  all of my trace files are small.
  
  
  --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Jamadagni, RajendraSent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:54 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
Performance Problem
Funny ... 
I have tkprof give up analyzing a 4.2G tracefile on a 64bit 
platform. anyone else experienced this?? 
Raj  
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com 
All Views expressed in this email are strictly 
personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an 
opinion is an art ! 
-Original Message- From: 
Cary Millsap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Performance Problem 
Laura, 
You might find the problem by checking the things you plan 
to check, and by following the advice of the book 
you're using. But the odds are very good that you 
will not. At least not for a long time... 
Any application program on your system can tell you where it 
is spending its time. Let it tell you. Take a 10046 
level-12 trace of *any* important, slow application 
program. Read http://www.hotsos.com/dnloads/1/timing-data/Oracle%20Operational%20Timin 
g%20Data.pdf, or ask the list for details if you need some 
help. 
Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, 
Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com 
Upcoming events: - Hotsos Clinic 101 
in Sydney - Hotsos Symposium 2004, March 7-10 
Dallas - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule 
details... 
-Original Message- Burton, 
Laura Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 2:30 PM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
No, I had read not to analyze the sys tables in the 'TIP' 
section of the book I am using as a reference 
(Oracle Performance Tuning/Tips  Techniques). As I stated earlier, I also made sure that I 
analyzed all the tables and indexes that were 
involved, because I had read that leaving a table 
'un'analyzed would cause a performance hit. 
Someone earlier had suggested doing the analyze during an 
'off' time. This I did not do. It was done 
while everything was going on, so maybe that is why 
everything came to a standstill. Anyway I want to try it 
again after I upgrade and do so when others are not 
on. 
If you know of any other gotcha's, please let me know. 
I may not have picked up on it in my 
research. 
Someone else had responded about looking at systemic things 
before attacking the code. I had already done 
this and found that I needed to enlarge my sort area 
because the disk read ratio was a little high. I also enlarged my shared pool size. The stats I have been 
running since then to keep track of this are staying 
between 98 and 99% so I do not think this is my 
problem now. Those changes did not make any difference 
to the users. Even though the disk/memory read was 
not above 95%, it was at 92% so that is probably why 
no performance gain was noticed. We are using 
PL/SQL procedures heavily. The stats on the Library Cache 
looked good though. 
I read something this weekend about how using 'logical' 
drives to separate the different files can cause a 
performance hit. I am using logical 
disks, and I plan to change when I can, but I'm not sure yet 
how much that will help. I have redistributed some of 
the rollback segments so that they are not all 
located on the same disk. However since some 
of the drives are logical, that may not have done any good. I've rebuilt indexes, changed extent sizes to reduce the amount 
of extents, added rollback segments, etc. In 
lieu of this, code is next... 
Thanks, Laura 
-Original Message- Sent: 
Tuesday, August 26, 2003 1:29 PM To: Multiple 
recipients of list ORACLE-L 
Did you analyze the sys schema by mistake. This 
can stop the fastest database. We had a 
contractor do that to an 8.0.5 database once, and only once. 
Ruth 
-- Please see the official ORACLE-L 
FAQ: http

RE: tkprof issues - was Performance Problem

2003-08-27 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: Message



Swap is 16G, 1.2% used 
RAM is 16G, 
16 processors.

Raj
 
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot 
com All Views expressed in this email 
are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod 
can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! 

  -Original Message-From: Mladen Gogala 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:25 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  tkprof issues - was Performance Problem
  Are 
  you sure that your swap space is sufficient?
  
  
  --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Jamadagni, RajendraSent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:59 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
tkprof issues - was Performance Problem
unable to allocate space of size 48 (couple of time 
50).

run as root too so no ulimits ...

Raj
 
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot 
com All Views expressed in this 
email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! 


  -Original Message-From: Mladen Gogala 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 
  5:50 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Performance Problem
  Nope, you're the first. What happened? Segmentation violation? If 
  that is so, I'd like to know, because
  not all of my trace files are small.
  
  
  --Mladen GogalaOracle DBA 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Jamadagni, RajendraSent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:54 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
RE: Performance Problem
Funny ... 
I have tkprof give up analyzing a 4.2G tracefile on a 
64bit platform. anyone else experienced this?? 
Raj  
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com 
All Views expressed in this email are strictly 
personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having 
an opinion is an art ! 
-Original Message- From: 
Cary Millsap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Performance Problem 
Laura, 
You might find the problem by checking the things you 
plan to check, and by following the advice of 
the book you're using. But the odds are very good that you will not. At least not for a long time... 

Any application program on your system can tell you 
where it is spending its time. Let it tell you. 
Take a 10046 level-12 trace of *any* important, 
slow application program. Read http://www.hotsos.com/dnloads/1/timing-data/Oracle%20Operational%20Timin 
g%20Data.pdf, or ask the list for details if you need 
some help. 
Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, 
Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com 
Upcoming events: - Hotsos Clinic 
101 in Sydney - Hotsos Symposium 2004, March 
7-10 Dallas - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule 
details... 
-Original Message- Burton, Laura Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 
2003 2:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-L 
No, I had read not to analyze the sys tables in the 
'TIP' section of the book I am using as a 
reference (Oracle Performance Tuning/Tips  Techniques). As I stated earlier, I also made sure that I 
analyzed all the tables and indexes that were 
involved, because I had read that leaving a 
table 'un'analyzed would cause a performance hit. 
Someone earlier had suggested doing the analyze during 
an 'off' time. This I did not do. It was 
done while everything was going on, so maybe that is why everything came to a standstill. Anyway I want 
to try it again after I upgrade and do so when 
others are not on. 
If you know of any other gotcha's, please let me 
know. I may not have picked up on it in my 
research. 
Someone else had responded about looking at systemic 
things before attacking the code. I had 
already done this and found that I needed to enlarge my sort area because the disk read ratio was a little 
high. I also enlarged my shared pool 
size. The stats I have been running since then to keep track of this are staying between 98 and 99% so I do 
not think this is my problem now. Those 
changes did not make any difference to the 
users. Even though

RE: tkprof issues - was Performance Problem

2003-08-27 Thread Mladen Gogala
Title: Message



Raj, 
can you do truss on that tkprof? It would be nice to see where exactly does 
tkprof fail. 
HP-UX 
11 has truss.


--Mladen GogalaOracle DBA 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Jamadagni, RajendraSent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:05 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  tkprof issues - was Performance Problem
  Swap is 16G, 1.2% used 
  RAM is 16G, 
  16 processors.
  
  Raj
   
  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot 
  com All Views expressed in this 
  email are strictly personal. QOTD: 
  Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! 
  
-Original Message-From: Mladen Gogala 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 
6:25 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: tkprof issues - was Performance 
Problem
Are you sure that your swap space is sufficient?


--Mladen GogalaOracle DBA 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Jamadagni, RajendraSent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:59 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  tkprof issues - was Performance Problem
  unable to allocate space of size 48 (couple of time 
  50).
  
  run as root too so no ulimits ...
  
  Raj
   
  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn 
  dot com All Views expressed in 
  this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! 
  
  
-Original Message-From: Mladen Gogala 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 
5:50 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Performance Problem
Nope, you're the first. What happened? Segmentation violation? If 
that is so, I'd like to know, because
not all of my trace files are small.


--Mladen GogalaOracle DBA 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Jamadagni, RajendraSent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:54 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Performance 
  Problem
  Funny ... 
  I have tkprof give up analyzing a 4.2G tracefile on a 
  64bit platform. anyone else experienced this?? 
  Raj  
  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com 
  All Views expressed in this email are strictly 
  personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, 
  having an opinion is an art ! 
  -Original Message- From: Cary Millsap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:24 PM 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Subject: RE: Performance Problem 
  Laura, 
  You might find the problem by checking the things you 
  plan to check, and by following the advice of 
  the book you're using. But the odds are very good that you will not. At least not for a long time.. 
  
  Any application program on your system can tell you 
  where it is spending its time. Let it tell 
  you. Take a 10046 level-12 trace of *any* important, slow application program. Read http://www.hotsos.com/dnloads/1/timing-data/Oracle%20Operational%20Timin 
  g%20Data.pdf, or ask the list for details if you need 
  some help. 
  Cary Millsap Hotsos 
  Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com 
  Upcoming events: - Hotsos 
  Clinic 101 in Sydney - Hotsos Symposium 2004, 
  March 7-10 Dallas - Visit www.hotsos.com for 
  schedule details... 
  -Original Message- Burton, Laura Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 
  2003 2:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-L 
  No, I had read not to analyze the sys tables in the 
  'TIP' section of the book I am using as a 
  reference (Oracle Performance Tuning/Tips  Techniques). As I stated earlier, I also made sure that I 
  analyzed all the tables and indexes that were 
  involved, because I had read that leaving a 
  table 'un'analyzed would cause a performance hit. 
  Someone earlier had suggested doing the analyze during 
  an 'off' time. This I did not do. It was 
  done while everything was going on, so maybe that is why everything came to a standstill. Anyway I 
  want to try it again after I upgrade and do so 
  when others are not on. 
  If you know of any other

RE: tkprof issues - was Performance Problem

2003-08-26 Thread Mladen Gogala
Title: Message



Are 
you sure that your swap space is sufficient?


--Mladen GogalaOracle DBA 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Jamadagni, RajendraSent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:59 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  tkprof issues - was Performance Problem
  unable to allocate space of size 48 (couple of time 
  50).
  
  run as root too so no ulimits ...
  
  Raj
   
  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot 
  com All Views expressed in this 
  email are strictly personal. QOTD: 
  Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! 
  
-Original Message-From: Mladen Gogala 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 
5:50 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Performance Problem
Nope, you're the first. What happened? Segmentation violation? If 
that is so, I'd like to know, because
not all of my trace files are small.


--Mladen GogalaOracle DBA 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Jamadagni, RajendraSent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:54 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: Performance Problem
  Funny ... 
  I have tkprof give up analyzing a 4.2G tracefile on a 
  64bit platform. anyone else experienced this?? 
  Raj  
  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com 
  All Views expressed in this email are strictly 
  personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an 
  opinion is an art ! 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Cary Millsap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Performance Problem 
  Laura, 
  You might find the problem by checking the things you plan 
  to check, and by following the advice of the book 
  you're using. But the odds are very good that you 
  will not. At least not for a long time... 
  Any application program on your system can tell you where 
  it is spending its time. Let it tell you. Take a 
  10046 level-12 trace of *any* important, slow 
  application program. Read http://www.hotsos.com/dnloads/1/timing-data/Oracle%20Operational%20Timin 
  g%20Data.pdf, or ask the list for details if you need 
  some help. 
  Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, 
  Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com 
  Upcoming events: - Hotsos Clinic 
  101 in Sydney - Hotsos Symposium 2004, March 7-10 
  Dallas - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule 
  details... 
  -Original Message- Burton, 
  Laura Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 2:30 
  PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  No, I had read not to analyze the sys tables in the 'TIP' 
  section of the book I am using as a reference 
  (Oracle Performance Tuning/Tips  Techniques). As I stated earlier, I also made sure that I 
  analyzed all the tables and indexes that were 
  involved, because I had read that leaving a table 
  'un'analyzed would cause a performance hit. 
  Someone earlier had suggested doing the analyze during an 
  'off' time. This I did not do. It was done 
  while everything was going on, so maybe that is 
  why everything came to a standstill. Anyway I want to try it 
  again after I upgrade and do so when others are not 
  on. 
  If you know of any other gotcha's, please let me 
  know. I may not have picked up on it in my 
  research. 
  Someone else had responded about looking at systemic 
  things before attacking the code. I had 
  already done this and found that I needed to enlarge my sort area because the disk read ratio was a little 
  high. I also enlarged my shared pool 
  size. The stats I have been running since then to keep track of this are staying between 98 and 99% so I do 
  not think this is my problem now. Those 
  changes did not make any difference to the 
  users. Even though the disk/memory read was not above 95%, it 
  was at 92% so that is probably why no performance gain 
  was noticed. We are using PL/SQL procedures 
  heavily. The stats on the Library Cache looked good though. 
  I read something this weekend about how using 'logical' 
  drives to separate the different files can cause a 
  performance hit. I am using logical 
  disks, and I plan to change when I can, but I'm not sure yet 
  how much that will help. I have redistributed some 
  of the rollback segments so that they are not all 
  located on the same disk. However since some 
  of the drives are logical, that may not have done any good

Re: core dump for tkprof

2003-03-28 Thread AK



It's 8.1.6 db . I ran tkprof succesfully on 
same box with same version 3 days back . But now it's geting core dump 
.

-ak


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jamadagni, Rajendra 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:28 
  PM
  Subject: RE: core dump for tkprof
  
  remove a line that starts with APPNAME or something like that ... in 
  the very beginning of the trace file.
  
  Raj
  
-Original Message-From: AK 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:49 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
core dump for tkprof
when I am trying to execute tkprof on 10046 
output file ( level 8 ) , i am getting core dump .
any idea why ?

thanks,
ak


RE: core dump for tkprof

2003-03-27 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra



remove 
a line that starts with APPNAME or something like that ... in the very beginning 
of the trace file.

Raj

  -Original Message-From: AK 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:49 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: core 
  dump for tkprof
  when I am trying to execute tkprof on 10046 
  output file ( level 8 ) , i am getting core dump .
  any idea why ?
  
  thanks,
  ak
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Re: tkprof output

2003-03-13 Thread AK
I use sys.dbms_system.set_ev( v_seid ,v_sernum ,10046,12 ,'') to start
tracing on 8.1.6 db . What should I do to stop tracing without exiting out
of session .

Thanks,
-ak


- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:07 AM


 An action with dep=n+1 (n=0) for cursor #k is the recursive child of the
 next dep=n action for cursor #k that immediately follows in the trace
data.


 Cary Millsap
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 http://www.hotsos.com

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 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:16 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

 Thanks Jonathan,
 what is meaning of recursive depth ?  I see calls to cdef$, seq$
 tables/views  does it hint something .  I though procedure is using some
 sequence and these are internal calls to generate seq numbers . Is that
rite
 ?

 -ak


 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:54 PM


 
  Any SQL within a pl/sql block is recursive SQL
  (user recursive, rather than SYS recursive) so
  this time could simply be the cost of running
  your application code.
 
  Unfortunately the tkprof output doesn't quote
  the recursive depth of the SQL - however if
  you identify possible suspects, you can check
  back in the raw trace file for lines like:
  PARSING IN CURSOR #N
  there will be a bit in the line like
  dep=n
  If n is not zero, then this is a 'recursive'
  cursor.
 
  Regards
 
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  - Original Message -
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 11 March 2003 19:29
 
 
   I am running tkprof on event 10046 output and I see at the end .
  elapsed
   time of 18 secs in recursive calls thats what surprises me . Do you
  know
   what I should look at next and what can be done to reduce these
  timings
  
   Thanks,
   -ak
  
  
  
  
   OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
  
   call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
   rows
   --- --   -- -- -- --
--
   
   Parse   26  0.08   0.10  3 26  0
   0
   Execute 37  0.04   0.08  0  4  6
   2
   Fetch   32  1.13   2.14   5079   5189 70
   30
   --- --   -- -- -- --
--
   
   total   95  1.25   2.32   5082   5219 76
   32
  
   Misses in library cache during parse: 23
  
  
   OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
  
   call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
   rows
   --- --   -- -- -- --
--
   
   Parse   41  0.03   0.05  0  0  0
   0
   Execute541  4.40  12.30   1051   6442  63782
   38712
   Fetch  550  3.23   6.31   3977  24298340
   419
   --- --   -- -- -- --
--
   
   total 1132  7.66  18.66   5028  30740  64122
   39131
  
   Misses in library cache during parse: 9
  
 164  user  SQL statements in session.
  41  internal SQL statements in session.
 205  SQL statements in session.
   0  statements EXPLAINed in this session.
  
  **
  **
   
   Trace file: ora_28633_ak.trc
   Trace file compatibility: 8.00.04
   Sort options: default
  
  1  session in tracefile.
164  user  SQL statements in trace file.
 41  internal SQL statements in trace file.
205  SQL statements in trace file.
167  unique SQL statements in trace file.
   5369  lines in trace file.
  
  
  
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Re: tkprof output

2003-03-13 Thread AK
also how can we check if  one particular session is being traced (10046 ) or
not  .  Basically I want to be sure that tracing is stopped for the session
and its not fillling up disk space .

-ak



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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:07 AM


 An action with dep=n+1 (n=0) for cursor #k is the recursive child of the
 next dep=n action for cursor #k that immediately follows in the trace
data.


 Cary Millsap
 Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
 http://www.hotsos.com

 Upcoming events:
 - Hotsos Clinic 101, Mar 25-27 Oxford
 - Hotsos Clinic 101, Apr  8-10 Chicago


 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:16 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

 Thanks Jonathan,
 what is meaning of recursive depth ?  I see calls to cdef$, seq$
 tables/views  does it hint something .  I though procedure is using some
 sequence and these are internal calls to generate seq numbers . Is that
rite
 ?

 -ak


 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:54 PM


 
  Any SQL within a pl/sql block is recursive SQL
  (user recursive, rather than SYS recursive) so
  this time could simply be the cost of running
  your application code.
 
  Unfortunately the tkprof output doesn't quote
  the recursive depth of the SQL - however if
  you identify possible suspects, you can check
  back in the raw trace file for lines like:
  PARSING IN CURSOR #N
  there will be a bit in the line like
  dep=n
  If n is not zero, then this is a 'recursive'
  cursor.
 
  Regards
 
  Jonathan Lewis
  http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk
 
  Now available One-day tutorials:
Cost Based Optimisation
Trouble-shooting and Tuning
Indexing Strategies
 
  (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html )
 
  UK___March 19th
  UK___April 8th
  UK___April 22nd
 
  USA_(FL)_May 2nd
 
 
  Next dates for the 3-day seminar:
  (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html )
 
  UK_(Manchester)_May
  USA_(CA, TX)_August
 
 
  The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ
  http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html
 
 
  - Original Message -
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 11 March 2003 19:29
 
 
   I am running tkprof on event 10046 output and I see at the end .
  elapsed
   time of 18 secs in recursive calls thats what surprises me . Do you
  know
   what I should look at next and what can be done to reduce these
  timings
  
   Thanks,
   -ak
  
  
  
  
   OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
  
   call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
   rows
   --- --   -- -- -- --
--
   
   Parse   26  0.08   0.10  3 26  0
   0
   Execute 37  0.04   0.08  0  4  6
   2
   Fetch   32  1.13   2.14   5079   5189 70
   30
   --- --   -- -- -- --
--
   
   total   95  1.25   2.32   5082   5219 76
   32
  
   Misses in library cache during parse: 23
  
  
   OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
  
   call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
   rows
   --- --   -- -- -- --
--
   
   Parse   41  0.03   0.05  0  0  0
   0
   Execute541  4.40  12.30   1051   6442  63782
   38712
   Fetch  550  3.23   6.31   3977  24298340
   419
   --- --   -- -- -- --
--
   
   total 1132  7.66  18.66   5028  30740  64122
   39131
  
   Misses in library cache during parse: 9
  
 164  user  SQL statements in session.
  41  internal SQL statements in session.
 205  SQL statements in session.
   0  statements EXPLAINed in this session.
  
  **
  **
   
   Trace file: ora_28633_ak.trc
   Trace file compatibility: 8.00.04
   Sort options: default
  
  1  session in tracefile.
164  user  SQL statements in trace file.
 41  internal SQL statements in trace file.
205  SQL statements in trace file.
167  unique SQL statements in trace file.
   5369  lines in trace file.
  
  
  
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Re: tkprof output

2003-03-13 Thread Igor Neyman
sys.dbms_system.set_ev( v_seid ,v_sernum ,10046, 0,'')

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:49 AM


 I use sys.dbms_system.set_ev( v_seid ,v_sernum ,10046,12 ,'') to start
 tracing on 8.1.6 db . What should I do to stop tracing without exiting out
 of session .

 Thanks,
 -ak


 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:07 AM


  An action with dep=n+1 (n=0) for cursor #k is the recursive child of
the
  next dep=n action for cursor #k that immediately follows in the trace
 data.
 
 
  Cary Millsap
  Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
  http://www.hotsos.com
 
  Upcoming events:
  - Hotsos Clinic 101, Mar 25-27 Oxford
  - Hotsos Clinic 101, Apr  8-10 Chicago
 
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:16 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
  Thanks Jonathan,
  what is meaning of recursive depth ?  I see calls to cdef$, seq$
  tables/views  does it hint something .  I though procedure is using some
  sequence and these are internal calls to generate seq numbers . Is that
 rite
  ?
 
  -ak
 
 
  - Original Message -
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:54 PM
 
 
  
   Any SQL within a pl/sql block is recursive SQL
   (user recursive, rather than SYS recursive) so
   this time could simply be the cost of running
   your application code.
  
   Unfortunately the tkprof output doesn't quote
   the recursive depth of the SQL - however if
   you identify possible suspects, you can check
   back in the raw trace file for lines like:
   PARSING IN CURSOR #N
   there will be a bit in the line like
   dep=n
   If n is not zero, then this is a 'recursive'
   cursor.
  
   Regards
  
   Jonathan Lewis
   http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk
  
   Now available One-day tutorials:
 Cost Based Optimisation
 Trouble-shooting and Tuning
 Indexing Strategies
  
   (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html )
  
   UK___March 19th
   UK___April 8th
   UK___April 22nd
  
   USA_(FL)_May 2nd
  
  
   Next dates for the 3-day seminar:
   (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html )
  
   UK_(Manchester)_May
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   - Original Message -
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 11 March 2003 19:29
  
  
I am running tkprof on event 10046 output and I see at the end .
   elapsed
time of 18 secs in recursive calls thats what surprises me . Do you
   know
what I should look at next and what can be done to reduce these
   timings
   
Thanks,
-ak
   
   
   
   
OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
   
call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
--- --   -- -- -- --
 --

Parse   26  0.08   0.10  3 26  0
0
Execute 37  0.04   0.08  0  4  6
2
Fetch   32  1.13   2.14   5079   5189 70
30
--- --   -- -- -- --
 --

total   95  1.25   2.32   5082   5219 76
32
   
Misses in library cache during parse: 23
   
   
OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
   
call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
--- --   -- -- -- --
 --

Parse   41  0.03   0.05  0  0  0
0
Execute541  4.40  12.30   1051   6442  63782
38712
Fetch  550  3.23   6.31   3977  24298340
419
--- --   -- -- -- --
 --

total 1132  7.66  18.66   5028  30740  64122
39131
   
Misses in library cache during parse: 9
   
  164  user  SQL statements in session.
   41  internal SQL statements in session.
  205  SQL statements in session.
0  statements EXPLAINed in this session.
   
   **
   **

Trace file: ora_28633_ak.trc
Trace file compatibility: 8.00.04
Sort options: default
   
   1  session in tracefile.
 164  user  SQL statements in trace file.
  41  internal SQL statements in trace file.
 205  SQL statements in trace file.
 167  unique SQL statements in trace file.
5369  lines in trace file.
   
   
   
--
Please see

RE: tkprof output

2003-03-13 Thread Cary Millsap
sys.dbms_system.set_ev( v_seid, v_sernum, 10046, 0, '' )
 ^


Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com

Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic 101, Mar 25-27 Oxford
- Hotsos Clinic 101, Apr  8-10 Chicago


-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:49 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I use sys.dbms_system.set_ev( v_seid ,v_sernum ,10046,12 ,'') to start
tracing on 8.1.6 db . What should I do to stop tracing without exiting out
of session .

Thanks,
-ak


- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:07 AM


 An action with dep=n+1 (n=0) for cursor #k is the recursive child of the
 next dep=n action for cursor #k that immediately follows in the trace
data.


 Cary Millsap
 Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
 http://www.hotsos.com

 Upcoming events:
 - Hotsos Clinic 101, Mar 25-27 Oxford
 - Hotsos Clinic 101, Apr  8-10 Chicago


 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:16 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

 Thanks Jonathan,
 what is meaning of recursive depth ?  I see calls to cdef$, seq$
 tables/views  does it hint something .  I though procedure is using some
 sequence and these are internal calls to generate seq numbers . Is that
rite
 ?

 -ak


 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:54 PM


 
  Any SQL within a pl/sql block is recursive SQL
  (user recursive, rather than SYS recursive) so
  this time could simply be the cost of running
  your application code.
 
  Unfortunately the tkprof output doesn't quote
  the recursive depth of the SQL - however if
  you identify possible suspects, you can check
  back in the raw trace file for lines like:
  PARSING IN CURSOR #N
  there will be a bit in the line like
  dep=n
  If n is not zero, then this is a 'recursive'
  cursor.
 
  Regards
 
  Jonathan Lewis
  http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk
 
  Now available One-day tutorials:
Cost Based Optimisation
Trouble-shooting and Tuning
Indexing Strategies
 
  (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html )
 
  UK___March 19th
  UK___April 8th
  UK___April 22nd
 
  USA_(FL)_May 2nd
 
 
  Next dates for the 3-day seminar:
  (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html )
 
  UK_(Manchester)_May
  USA_(CA, TX)_August
 
 
  The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ
  http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html
 
 
  - Original Message -
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 11 March 2003 19:29
 
 
   I am running tkprof on event 10046 output and I see at the end .
  elapsed
   time of 18 secs in recursive calls thats what surprises me . Do you
  know
   what I should look at next and what can be done to reduce these
  timings
  
   Thanks,
   -ak
  
  
  
  
   OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
  
   call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
   rows
   --- --   -- -- -- --
--
   
   Parse   26  0.08   0.10  3 26  0
   0
   Execute 37  0.04   0.08  0  4  6
   2
   Fetch   32  1.13   2.14   5079   5189 70
   30
   --- --   -- -- -- --
--
   
   total   95  1.25   2.32   5082   5219 76
   32
  
   Misses in library cache during parse: 23
  
  
   OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
  
   call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
   rows
   --- --   -- -- -- --
--
   
   Parse   41  0.03   0.05  0  0  0
   0
   Execute541  4.40  12.30   1051   6442  63782
   38712
   Fetch  550  3.23   6.31   3977  24298340
   419
   --- --   -- -- -- --
--
   
   total 1132  7.66  18.66   5028  30740  64122
   39131
  
   Misses in library cache during parse: 9
  
 164  user  SQL statements in session.
  41  internal SQL statements in session.
 205  SQL statements in session.
   0  statements EXPLAINed in this session.
  
  **
  **
   
   Trace file: ora_28633_ak.trc
   Trace file compatibility: 8.00.04
   Sort options: default
  
  1  session in tracefile.
164  user  SQL statements in trace file.
 41  internal SQL statements in trace file.
205  SQL statements in trace file.
167  unique SQL statements in trace file.
   5369  lines in trace file.
  
  
  
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   Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ

Re: tkprof output

2003-03-13 Thread Jonathan Lewis

Repeat but changing the 12 to a zero should work.
You will find, however, that any cursor that has
not closed when you stop tracing will not dump
its 'STAT' lines (including execution plan) to the
trace file.


Regards

Jonathan Lewis
http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk

Now available One-day tutorials:
  Cost Based Optimisation
  Trouble-shooting and Tuning
  Indexing Strategies

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- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 March 2003 15:49


 I use sys.dbms_system.set_ev( v_seid ,v_sernum ,10046,12 ,'') to
start
 tracing on 8.1.6 db . What should I do to stop tracing without
exiting out
 of session .

 Thanks,
 -ak




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Re: tkprof output

2003-03-12 Thread AK
Thanks Jonathan,
what is meaning of recursive depth ?  I see calls to cdef$, seq$
tables/views  does it hint something .  I though procedure is using some
sequence and these are internal calls to generate seq numbers . Is that rite
?

-ak


- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:54 PM



 Any SQL within a pl/sql block is recursive SQL
 (user recursive, rather than SYS recursive) so
 this time could simply be the cost of running
 your application code.

 Unfortunately the tkprof output doesn't quote
 the recursive depth of the SQL - however if
 you identify possible suspects, you can check
 back in the raw trace file for lines like:
 PARSING IN CURSOR #N
 there will be a bit in the line like
 dep=n
 If n is not zero, then this is a 'recursive'
 cursor.

 Regards

 Jonathan Lewis
 http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk

 Now available One-day tutorials:
   Cost Based Optimisation
   Trouble-shooting and Tuning
   Indexing Strategies

 (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html )

 UK___March 19th
 UK___April 8th
 UK___April 22nd

 USA_(FL)_May 2nd


 Next dates for the 3-day seminar:
 (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html )

 UK_(Manchester)_May
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 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 11 March 2003 19:29


  I am running tkprof on event 10046 output and I see at the end .
 elapsed
  time of 18 secs in recursive calls thats what surprises me . Do you
 know
  what I should look at next and what can be done to reduce these
 timings
 
  Thanks,
  -ak
 
 
 
 
  OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
 
  call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
  rows
  --- --   -- -- -- --
   --
  
  Parse   26  0.08   0.10  3 26  0
  0
  Execute 37  0.04   0.08  0  4  6
  2
  Fetch   32  1.13   2.14   5079   5189 70
  30
  --- --   -- -- -- --
   --
  
  total   95  1.25   2.32   5082   5219 76
  32
 
  Misses in library cache during parse: 23
 
 
  OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
 
  call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
  rows
  --- --   -- -- -- --
   --
  
  Parse   41  0.03   0.05  0  0  0
  0
  Execute541  4.40  12.30   1051   6442  63782
  38712
  Fetch  550  3.23   6.31   3977  24298340
  419
  --- --   -- -- -- --
   --
  
  total 1132  7.66  18.66   5028  30740  64122
  39131
 
  Misses in library cache during parse: 9
 
164  user  SQL statements in session.
 41  internal SQL statements in session.
205  SQL statements in session.
  0  statements EXPLAINed in this session.
 
 **
 **
  
  Trace file: ora_28633_ak.trc
  Trace file compatibility: 8.00.04
  Sort options: default
 
 1  session in tracefile.
   164  user  SQL statements in trace file.
41  internal SQL statements in trace file.
   205  SQL statements in trace file.
   167  unique SQL statements in trace file.
  5369  lines in trace file.
 
 
 
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Re: tkprof output

2003-03-12 Thread Jonathan Lewis

The examples you have given are SYS-recursive,

The call to cdef$ is Oracle looking for some information
about constraints (one possibility is that you keep breaking
a PK or UK constraint and Oracle has to keep looking up
the name of the constraint because it doesn't cache constraint
names).

The call to seq$ usually appears because you are using
a sequence with a very small, or no, CACHE set - so
as you get the next value from the sequence, oracle has
to bump the sequence high-water value and write it to
disc.

In general, the recursive depth simply tells you how
far down the stack of calls your cursor is. For example
(which may be wrong in detail, but right in gist) if you
execute an anonymous pl/sql which runs an SQL statement
that uses a sequence.nextval that happens to bump
the sequence high-water, you would (probably see):


anonymous pl/sqldep = 0
SQL statementdep = 1
update seq$ statementdep = 3


Regards

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- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 March 2003 16:15


 Thanks Jonathan,
 what is meaning of recursive depth ?  I see calls to cdef$, seq$
 tables/views  does it hint something .  I though procedure is using
some
 sequence and these are internal calls to generate seq numbers . Is
that rite
 ?

 -ak




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RE: tkprof output

2003-03-12 Thread Cary Millsap
An action with dep=n+1 (n=0) for cursor #k is the recursive child of the
next dep=n action for cursor #k that immediately follows in the trace data.


Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com

Upcoming events:
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-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:16 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Thanks Jonathan,
what is meaning of recursive depth ?  I see calls to cdef$, seq$
tables/views  does it hint something .  I though procedure is using some
sequence and these are internal calls to generate seq numbers . Is that rite
?

-ak


- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:54 PM



 Any SQL within a pl/sql block is recursive SQL
 (user recursive, rather than SYS recursive) so
 this time could simply be the cost of running
 your application code.

 Unfortunately the tkprof output doesn't quote
 the recursive depth of the SQL - however if
 you identify possible suspects, you can check
 back in the raw trace file for lines like:
 PARSING IN CURSOR #N
 there will be a bit in the line like
 dep=n
 If n is not zero, then this is a 'recursive'
 cursor.

 Regards

 Jonathan Lewis
 http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk

 Now available One-day tutorials:
   Cost Based Optimisation
   Trouble-shooting and Tuning
   Indexing Strategies

 (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html )

 UK___March 19th
 UK___April 8th
 UK___April 22nd

 USA_(FL)_May 2nd


 Next dates for the 3-day seminar:
 (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html )

 UK_(Manchester)_May
 USA_(CA, TX)_August


 The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ
 http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html


 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 11 March 2003 19:29


  I am running tkprof on event 10046 output and I see at the end .
 elapsed
  time of 18 secs in recursive calls thats what surprises me . Do you
 know
  what I should look at next and what can be done to reduce these
 timings
 
  Thanks,
  -ak
 
 
 
 
  OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
 
  call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
  rows
  --- --   -- -- -- --
   --
  
  Parse   26  0.08   0.10  3 26  0
  0
  Execute 37  0.04   0.08  0  4  6
  2
  Fetch   32  1.13   2.14   5079   5189 70
  30
  --- --   -- -- -- --
   --
  
  total   95  1.25   2.32   5082   5219 76
  32
 
  Misses in library cache during parse: 23
 
 
  OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
 
  call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
  rows
  --- --   -- -- -- --
   --
  
  Parse   41  0.03   0.05  0  0  0
  0
  Execute541  4.40  12.30   1051   6442  63782
  38712
  Fetch  550  3.23   6.31   3977  24298340
  419
  --- --   -- -- -- --
   --
  
  total 1132  7.66  18.66   5028  30740  64122
  39131
 
  Misses in library cache during parse: 9
 
164  user  SQL statements in session.
 41  internal SQL statements in session.
205  SQL statements in session.
  0  statements EXPLAINed in this session.
 
 **
 **
  
  Trace file: ora_28633_ak.trc
  Trace file compatibility: 8.00.04
  Sort options: default
 
 1  session in tracefile.
   164  user  SQL statements in trace file.
41  internal SQL statements in trace file.
   205  SQL statements in trace file.
   167  unique SQL statements in trace file.
  5369  lines in trace file.
 
 
 
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Re: tkprof output

2003-03-12 Thread AK
Thanks Jonathan for the information . Let me go through raw -trace file once
more to get info . Everytime I go through it I find something interesting .

-ak

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 The examples you have given are SYS-recursive,

 The call to cdef$ is Oracle looking for some information
 about constraints (one possibility is that you keep breaking
 a PK or UK constraint and Oracle has to keep looking up
 the name of the constraint because it doesn't cache constraint
 names).

 The call to seq$ usually appears because you are using
 a sequence with a very small, or no, CACHE set - so
 as you get the next value from the sequence, oracle has
 to bump the sequence high-water value and write it to
 disc.

 In general, the recursive depth simply tells you how
 far down the stack of calls your cursor is. For example
 (which may be wrong in detail, but right in gist) if you
 execute an anonymous pl/sql which runs an SQL statement
 that uses a sequence.nextval that happens to bump
 the sequence high-water, you would (probably see):


 anonymous pl/sqldep = 0
 SQL statementdep = 1
 update seq$ statementdep = 3


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  Thanks Jonathan,
  what is meaning of recursive depth ?  I see calls to cdef$, seq$
  tables/views  does it hint something .  I though procedure is using
 some
  sequence and these are internal calls to generate seq numbers . Is
 that rite
  ?
 
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tkprof output

2003-03-11 Thread AK
I am running tkprof on event 10046 output and I see at the end . elapsed
time of 18 secs in recursive calls thats what surprises me . Do you know
what I should look at next and what can be done to reduce these timings

Thanks,
-ak




OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS

call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
--- --   -- -- -- --  --

Parse   26  0.08   0.10  3 26  0
0
Execute 37  0.04   0.08  0  4  6
2
Fetch   32  1.13   2.14   5079   5189 70
30
--- --   -- -- -- --  --

total   95  1.25   2.32   5082   5219 76
32

Misses in library cache during parse: 23


OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS

call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
--- --   -- -- -- --  --

Parse   41  0.03   0.05  0  0  0
0
Execute541  4.40  12.30   1051   6442  63782
38712
Fetch  550  3.23   6.31   3977  24298340
419
--- --   -- -- -- --  --

total 1132  7.66  18.66   5028  30740  64122
39131

Misses in library cache during parse: 9

  164  user  SQL statements in session.
   41  internal SQL statements in session.
  205  SQL statements in session.
0  statements EXPLAINed in this session.


Trace file: ora_28633_ak.trc
Trace file compatibility: 8.00.04
Sort options: default

   1  session in tracefile.
 164  user  SQL statements in trace file.
  41  internal SQL statements in trace file.
 205  SQL statements in trace file.
 167  unique SQL statements in trace file.
5369  lines in trace file.



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Re: tkprof output

2003-03-11 Thread Igor Neyman
Run tkprof with SYS = YES option and find recursive calls that contribute
to this time.

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 I am running tkprof on event 10046 output and I see at the end . elapsed
 time of 18 secs in recursive calls thats what surprises me . Do you know
 what I should look at next and what can be done to reduce these timings

 Thanks,
 -ak




 OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS

 call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
 rows
 --- --   -- -- -- --  
--
 
 Parse   26  0.08   0.10  3 26  0
 0
 Execute 37  0.04   0.08  0  4  6
 2
 Fetch   32  1.13   2.14   5079   5189 70
 30
 --- --   -- -- -- --  
--
 
 total   95  1.25   2.32   5082   5219 76
 32

 Misses in library cache during parse: 23


 OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS

 call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
 rows
 --- --   -- -- -- --  
--
 
 Parse   41  0.03   0.05  0  0  0
 0
 Execute541  4.40  12.30   1051   6442  63782
 38712
 Fetch  550  3.23   6.31   3977  24298340
 419
 --- --   -- -- -- --  
--
 
 total 1132  7.66  18.66   5028  30740  64122
 39131

 Misses in library cache during parse: 9

   164  user  SQL statements in session.
41  internal SQL statements in session.
   205  SQL statements in session.
 0  statements EXPLAINed in this session.


 
 Trace file: ora_28633_ak.trc
 Trace file compatibility: 8.00.04
 Sort options: default

1  session in tracefile.
  164  user  SQL statements in trace file.
   41  internal SQL statements in trace file.
  205  SQL statements in trace file.
  167  unique SQL statements in trace file.
 5369  lines in trace file.



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Re: tkprof output

2003-03-11 Thread Jared . Still
Using sys=yes on the tkprof command line would be a good start.

That way you will see which statements are generating all the recursive 
SQL.

Jared






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I am running tkprof on event 10046 output and I see at the end . elapsed
time of 18 secs in recursive calls thats what surprises me . Do you know
what I should look at next and what can be done to reduce these timings

Thanks,
-ak




OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS

call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
--- --   -- -- -- -- 
--

Parse   26  0.08   0.10  3 26  0
0
Execute 37  0.04   0.08  0  4  6
2
Fetch   32  1.13   2.14   5079   5189 70
30
--- --   -- -- -- -- 
--

total   95  1.25   2.32   5082   5219 76
32

Misses in library cache during parse: 23


OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS

call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
--- --   -- -- -- -- 
--

Parse   41  0.03   0.05  0  0  0
0
Execute541  4.40  12.30   1051   6442  63782
38712
Fetch  550  3.23   6.31   3977  24298340
419
--- --   -- -- -- -- 
--

total 1132  7.66  18.66   5028  30740  64122
39131

Misses in library cache during parse: 9

  164  user  SQL statements in session.
   41  internal SQL statements in session.
  205  SQL statements in session.
0  statements EXPLAINed in this session.


Trace file: ora_28633_ak.trc
Trace file compatibility: 8.00.04
Sort options: default

   1  session in tracefile.
 164  user  SQL statements in trace file.
  41  internal SQL statements in trace file.
 205  SQL statements in trace file.
 167  unique SQL statements in trace file.
5369  lines in trace file.



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Re: tkprof output

2003-03-11 Thread Jonathan Lewis

Any SQL within a pl/sql block is recursive SQL
(user recursive, rather than SYS recursive) so
this time could simply be the cost of running
your application code.

Unfortunately the tkprof output doesn't quote
the recursive depth of the SQL - however if
you identify possible suspects, you can check
back in the raw trace file for lines like:
PARSING IN CURSOR #N
there will be a bit in the line like
dep=n
If n is not zero, then this is a 'recursive'
cursor.

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 March 2003 19:29


 I am running tkprof on event 10046 output and I see at the end .
elapsed
 time of 18 secs in recursive calls thats what surprises me . Do you
know
 what I should look at next and what can be done to reduce these
timings

 Thanks,
 -ak




 OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS

 call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
 rows
 --- --   -- -- -- --
  --
 
 Parse   26  0.08   0.10  3 26  0
 0
 Execute 37  0.04   0.08  0  4  6
 2
 Fetch   32  1.13   2.14   5079   5189 70
 30
 --- --   -- -- -- --
  --
 
 total   95  1.25   2.32   5082   5219 76
 32

 Misses in library cache during parse: 23


 OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS

 call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
 rows
 --- --   -- -- -- --
  --
 
 Parse   41  0.03   0.05  0  0  0
 0
 Execute541  4.40  12.30   1051   6442  63782
 38712
 Fetch  550  3.23   6.31   3977  24298340
 419
 --- --   -- -- -- --
  --
 
 total 1132  7.66  18.66   5028  30740  64122
 39131

 Misses in library cache during parse: 9

   164  user  SQL statements in session.
41  internal SQL statements in session.
   205  SQL statements in session.
 0  statements EXPLAINed in this session.

**
**
 
 Trace file: ora_28633_ak.trc
 Trace file compatibility: 8.00.04
 Sort options: default

1  session in tracefile.
  164  user  SQL statements in trace file.
   41  internal SQL statements in trace file.
  205  SQL statements in trace file.
  167  unique SQL statements in trace file.
 5369  lines in trace file.



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Tkprof On Windows 9.0

2003-02-01 Thread Ora NT DBA
Hi All,

Go to metalink and download patch 2271678 to install tkprof
on 9i Release 1.  As was already mentioned this has been resolved
in 9iR2.

John


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tkprof on 901 database

2003-01-31 Thread Randy Pace
I have a 9.01 database installed on my laptop and cannot find the
tkprof.exe. Has it been renamed or is it part of an installation that I did
not do?

Thanks for any and all replys.

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Re: tkprof on 901 database

2003-01-31 Thread Connor McDonald
nope - its an oversight of oracle's.  You can upgrade
to 9.2 (which I'd recommend because its so much
better) or it might even be in one of the 9.0 patches.
 Using the 817 or 92 tkprof binary also seems to work
effectively.

hth
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question on tkprof

2003-01-21 Thread BanarasiBabu Tippa



Hi gurus

Anyone knows about the comparision of tkprof 
output of the trace files generated by same application in diffrent times 

and 
anyone have solution to Problem with pl/sql in insert script loading into 
tkprof_table. 
Thanks in advance

Banarasi


Re: question on tkprof

2003-01-21 Thread Tim Gorman



First, always use the SORT= option to generate TKPROF output -- the utility 
is useless if you don't sort the output. For sorting, I have two 
suggestions:

 * sort by "logical reads" (i.e. 
SORT=EXEQRY,FCHQRY,EXECU,FCHCU)
 * sort by "elapsed time" (i.e. 
SORT=PRSELA,FCHELA,EXEELA)

If elapsed time data is available (i.e. TIMED_STATISTICS=TRUE in database), 
then I prefer to use that. If not, then I use logical reads...

Second, if you are sorting the TKPROF output, then use the PRINT= option to 
limit the amount of output. The idea here is that you only care about the 
"worst" couple of SQL statements. Using PRINT=10 means that your TKPROF 
output will be limited to only 10 statements...

So, comparing two files that have been sorted and have only 10 statements 
is pretty easy to do just by looking at it...

---

As far as any problems loading into "tkprof_table", I can only guess that 
the user which you are running EXPLAIN PLANs into (using the EXPLAIN= option) 
does not have permission or space-quota to create a 
smalltemporarytable in which to place EXPLAIN PLAN output. 
Check the permissions of the user you are specifying; log into SQL*Plus 
using the same user and try to create a small dummy table...

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  From: 
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:34 
  AM
  Subject: question on tkprof
  
  Hi gurus
  
  Anyone knows about the comparision of 
  tkprof output of the trace files generated by same application in diffrent 
  times 
  and 
  anyone have solution to Problem with pl/sql in insert script loading into 
  tkprof_table. 
  Thanks in advance
  
  Banarasi


Re: Re: question on tkprof

2003-01-21 Thread Tim Gorman
Three options:

* use the Hotsos Profiler trace analysis tool from
   http://www.hotsos.com
* use the itrprof trace analysis tool from
   http://www.ubtools.com
* copy a TKPROF executable from an Oracle9i release
   and run (through SQL*Net!) against your earlier database.
   Not guaranteed to work, of course, but it could be worth
   a try...
   ** if you are on UNIX and are comfortable with the
   make utility, copy the s0kvpf.o object file from
   the $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/lib on an Oracle9i
   software distribution and copy it to your own target
   RDBMS version's $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/lib
   (making sure to save the existing file first, of course).
   Then, attempt to relink the TKPROF executable
   using make -f ins_rdbms.mk itkprof from the
   OH/rdbms/lib directory...

Cary Millsap and Jeff Holt (of www.hotsos.com) have found lots of anomalies
in Oracle .trc files, so they have compensated for these in their tool and
Cary is about to publish a book that explains many of them.  Gazi
Unal-Bilism of www.ubtools.com has had his itrprof tool available as a
service from the web and has been including WAIT information in his analysis
for quite a while...

Of course, the third option is entirely at your own risk.  Whether that is
attractive to you or not makes for an interesting discussion on its own!
:-)

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 Tim Gorman,
 hi, in oracle 9i there is waits=y to print the wait time in the tkprofed
file, but in 7-8i, tkprof does not support this option.
 Is there any script that can generate the wait time from the 10046 trace
file?
 Thanks.





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 === 2003-01-21 04:58:00 ,you wrote£º===

 First, always use the SORT= option to generate TKPROF output -- the
utility is useless if you don't sort the output.  For sorting, I have two
suggestions:
 
 * sort by logical reads (i.e. SORT=EXEQRY,FCHQRY,EXECU,FCHCU)
 * sort by elapsed time (i.e. SORT=PRSELA,FCHELA,EXEELA)
 
 If elapsed time data is available (i.e. TIMED_STATISTICS=TRUE in
database), then I prefer to use that.  If not, then I use logical reads...
 
 Second, if you are sorting the TKPROF output, then use the PRINT= option
to limit the amount of output.  The idea here is that you only care about
the worst couple of SQL statements.  Using PRINT=10 means that your TKPROF
output will be limited to only 10 statements...
 
 So, comparing two files that have been sorted and have only 10 statements
is pretty easy to do just by looking at it...
 
 ---
 
 As far as any problems loading into tkprof_table, I can only guess that
the user which you are running EXPLAIN PLANs into (using the EXPLAIN=
option) does not have permission or space-quota to create a small temporary
table in which to place EXPLAIN PLAN output.  Check the permissions of the
user you are specifying;  log into SQL*Plus using the same user and try to
create a small dummy table...
   - Original Message -
   From: BanarasiBabu Tippa
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:34 AM
   Subject: question on tkprof
 
 
   Hi gurus
 
   Anyone knows about the comparision of tkprof output of the trace files
generated by same application in diffrent times
   and anyone have solution to Problem with pl/sql in insert script
loading into tkprof_table.
 
   Thanks in advance
 
   Banarasi

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Re: question on tkprof

2003-01-21 Thread Charlie_Mengler

As a test I  took  a *trc file generated on a V7.3.4.5 DB and
copied it to a system where I have a dataless 9i copy of the
same DB. I used TKPROF from 9i  got all the wait statistics
reported along with the relevant EXPLAIN PLAN!


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RE: question on tkprof

2003-01-21 Thread BanarasiBabu Tippa



Thank you very much Tim for your solution 
for the first question.

Comming to second, that is not my problem. I 
was unable to load the data generated by tkprof whenINSERT option is used 
into tkprof_table. Most of the PL/SQL blocks are rejected. I searched for the 
same in metalink, they are saying that is a bug, but it was closed saying that 
this is a problem with SQL*Plus. They are suggesting to run from server manager 
but it's also unable do it andgving the MGR-11401 error. 

regards
Banarasi Babu

  -Original Message-From: Tim Gorman 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 6:29 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
  question on tkprof
  First, always use the SORT= option to generate TKPROF output -- the 
  utility is useless if you don't sort the output. For sorting, I have two 
  suggestions:
  
   * sort by "logical reads" (i.e. 
  SORT=EXEQRY,FCHQRY,EXECU,FCHCU)
   * sort by "elapsed time" (i.e. 
  SORT=PRSELA,FCHELA,EXEELA)
  
  If elapsed time data is available (i.e. TIMED_STATISTICS=TRUE in 
  database), then I prefer to use that. If not, then I use logical 
  reads...
  
  Second, if you are sorting the TKPROF output, then use the PRINT= option 
  to limit the amount of output. The idea here is that you only care about 
  the "worst" couple of SQL statements. Using PRINT=10 means that your 
  TKPROF output will be limited to only 10 statements...
  
  So, comparing two files that have been sorted and have only 10 statements 
  is pretty easy to do just by looking at it...
  
  ---
  
  As far as any problems loading into "tkprof_table", I can only guess that 
  the user which you are running EXPLAIN PLANs into (using the EXPLAIN= option) 
  does not have permission or space-quota to create a 
  smalltemporarytable in which to place EXPLAIN PLAN output. 
  Check the permissions of the user you are specifying; log into SQL*Plus 
  using the same user and try to create a small dummy table...
  
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:34 
AM
Subject: question on tkprof

Hi gurus

Anyone knows about the comparision of 
tkprof output of the trace files generated by same application in diffrent 
times 
and anyone have solution to Problem with pl/sql in 
insert script loading into tkprof_table. 
Thanks in advance

Banarasi


RE: Interpretation of TKPROF output

2002-10-14 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Wow! This is a completely new view on the TKPROF.
So far, I've been inclined to look upon the TKPROF output as
on the holly scripture. Mentioning the tkprof bugs is like 
discovering Kumran rolls!

 -Original Message-
 From: Cary Millsap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:32 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Interpretation of TKPROF output
 
 
 Actually two things can cause differences between tkprof output and
 explain plan output:
 
 1. Schema changes between when the trace output was collected and when
 the tkprof was executed.
 
 2. tkprof bugs. Tkprof often produces incorrect execution 
 plans from the
 STAT lines in the trace file. You can tell by viewing the STAT lines
 yourself. A line's pid is that row source operation's parent 
 row source
 id. Children at the same level are listed in id order.
 
 
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 -Original Message-
 Bobak
 Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 7:53 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 Peter,
 
 Row Source Operation is what Oracle actually did, or, at least what
 was recorded in the trace file.  Execution Plan is what 
 TkProf did in
 response to you specifying explain= option.  They can 
 differ if things
 changed from the time the trace was done to the time the explain was
 executed.  Particularly, if stats changed, or session modifiable
 parameters differed between the session being traced and the session
 that was established at TkProf execution time.
 
 When they differ, the Row Source Operation is a better bet 
 as to what
 actually happened.
 
 Hope that helps,
 
 -Mark
 
 On Sun, 2002-10-13 at 16:03, Schauss, Peter wrote:
  I am running tkprof on some trace files with the following options:
  (Oracle 8.1.7)
  
  explain=user/password sort=exeqry,fchqry,execu,fchcu
  
  Output after each query includes the following two tables:
  
  Rows Row Source Operation
  ---  ---
   36  INLIST ITERATOR
   36   TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID PART_LIST
   72INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 3451)
  
  
  Rows Execution Plan
  ---  ---
0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
   36   TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (FULL) OF 'PART_LIST'
  
  The Execution Plan table corresponds to the Explain Plan section
  of the Performance manual.  There is no mention, however, of the
  Row Source Operation table.  I note particularly, that in 
 some cases
  the first table seems to agree with the second. In others, however,
 such as
  the example here, the Row Source table shows use of an 
 index while the
  Execution Plan shows a Table Access (Full table scan?).
  
  Am I interpreting this correctly?  If so, what is going on?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Peter Schauss
  Northrop Grumman Corporation
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2002-10-13 Thread Schauss, Peter

I am running tkprof on some trace files with the following options:
(Oracle 8.1.7)

explain=user/password sort=exeqry,fchqry,execu,fchcu

Output after each query includes the following two tables:

Rows Row Source Operation
---  ---
 36  INLIST ITERATOR
 36   TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID PART_LIST
 72INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 3451)


Rows Execution Plan
---  ---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
 36   TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (FULL) OF 'PART_LIST'

The Execution Plan table corresponds to the Explain Plan section
of the Performance manual.  There is no mention, however, of the
Row Source Operation table.  I note particularly, that in some cases
the first table seems to agree with the second. In others, however, such as
the example here, the Row Source table shows use of an index while the
Execution Plan shows a Table Access (Full table scan?).

Am I interpreting this correctly?  If so, what is going on?

Thanks,

Peter Schauss
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RE: Interpretation of TKPROF output

2002-10-13 Thread Francisco Murillo Montoya

Hello;

Somebody knows how to connect to a Oracle DB,
In a Solaris 8 Server, and insert data
With Visual Basic, through internet?

Thank you.

Francisco Murillo

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Re: Interpretation of TKPROF output

2002-10-13 Thread Mark J. Bobak

Peter,

Row Source Operation is what Oracle actually did, or, at least what
was recorded in the trace file.  Execution Plan is what TkProf did in
response to you specifying explain= option.  They can differ if things
changed from the time the trace was done to the time the explain was
executed.  Particularly, if stats changed, or session modifiable
parameters differed between the session being traced and the session
that was established at TkProf execution time.

When they differ, the Row Source Operation is a better bet as to what
actually happened.

Hope that helps,

-Mark

On Sun, 2002-10-13 at 16:03, Schauss, Peter wrote:
 I am running tkprof on some trace files with the following options:
 (Oracle 8.1.7)
 
 explain=user/password sort=exeqry,fchqry,execu,fchcu
 
 Output after each query includes the following two tables:
 
 Rows Row Source Operation
 ---  ---
  36  INLIST ITERATOR
  36   TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID PART_LIST
  72INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 3451)
 
 
 Rows Execution Plan
 ---  ---
   0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  36   TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (FULL) OF 'PART_LIST'
 
 The Execution Plan table corresponds to the Explain Plan section
 of the Performance manual.  There is no mention, however, of the
 Row Source Operation table.  I note particularly, that in some cases
 the first table seems to agree with the second. In others, however, such as
 the example here, the Row Source table shows use of an index while the
 Execution Plan shows a Table Access (Full table scan?).
 
 Am I interpreting this correctly?  If so, what is going on?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Peter Schauss
 Northrop Grumman Corporation
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Re: Interpretation of TKPROF output

2002-10-13 Thread Mark Richard

Peter,

In the perfect world you would expect the two explain plans (don't worry
about the different headings) to be identical.  Someone can probably answer
this precisely but the first one is created during the trace and the second
one is provided because you supplied the explain=user/pass option to
tkprof - it basically says go back and get an explain plan for each
query.

Are you sure that both explain plans are generated using the same username
on the same instance?  Is one perhaps connecting to a different database
such as development?  In essence - if you run sqlplus user/pass from the
same place you ran tkprof are you connected to the exact same location as
the session that created the trace file?

Unfortunately if you are connected to the same area then I cannot help much
more.  Perhaps try taking the statement and use autotrace in sqlplus to see
which plan it provides.  Perhaps row level security of something is kicking
in and modifying the query (this caught us out once when explain plans
changed because we were connected as a different user)?

Regards,
 Mark.



   

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I am running tkprof on some trace files with the following options:
(Oracle 8.1.7)

explain=user/password sort=exeqry,fchqry,execu,fchcu

Output after each query includes the following two tables:

Rows Row Source Operation
---  ---
 36  INLIST ITERATOR
 36   TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID PART_LIST
 72INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 3451)


Rows Execution Plan
---  ---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
 36   TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (FULL) OF 'PART_LIST'

The Execution Plan table corresponds to the Explain Plan section
of the Performance manual.  There is no mention, however, of the
Row Source Operation table.  I note particularly, that in some cases
the first table seems to agree with the second. In others, however, such as
the example here, the Row Source table shows use of an index while the
Execution Plan shows a Table Access (Full table scan?).

Am I interpreting this correctly?  If so, what is going on?

Thanks,

Peter Schauss
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RE: Interpretation of TKPROF output

2002-10-13 Thread Cary Millsap

Actually two things can cause differences between tkprof output and
explain plan output:

1. Schema changes between when the trace output was collected and when
the tkprof was executed.

2. tkprof bugs. Tkprof often produces incorrect execution plans from the
STAT lines in the trace file. You can tell by viewing the STAT lines
yourself. A line's pid is that row source operation's parent row source
id. Children at the same level are listed in id order.


Cary Millsap
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-Original Message-
Bobak
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 7:53 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Peter,

Row Source Operation is what Oracle actually did, or, at least what
was recorded in the trace file.  Execution Plan is what TkProf did in
response to you specifying explain= option.  They can differ if things
changed from the time the trace was done to the time the explain was
executed.  Particularly, if stats changed, or session modifiable
parameters differed between the session being traced and the session
that was established at TkProf execution time.

When they differ, the Row Source Operation is a better bet as to what
actually happened.

Hope that helps,

-Mark

On Sun, 2002-10-13 at 16:03, Schauss, Peter wrote:
 I am running tkprof on some trace files with the following options:
 (Oracle 8.1.7)
 
 explain=user/password sort=exeqry,fchqry,execu,fchcu
 
 Output after each query includes the following two tables:
 
 Rows Row Source Operation
 ---  ---
  36  INLIST ITERATOR
  36   TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID PART_LIST
  72INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 3451)
 
 
 Rows Execution Plan
 ---  ---
   0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  36   TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (FULL) OF 'PART_LIST'
 
 The Execution Plan table corresponds to the Explain Plan section
 of the Performance manual.  There is no mention, however, of the
 Row Source Operation table.  I note particularly, that in some cases
 the first table seems to agree with the second. In others, however,
such as
 the example here, the Row Source table shows use of an index while the
 Execution Plan shows a Table Access (Full table scan?).
 
 Am I interpreting this correctly?  If so, what is going on?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Peter Schauss
 Northrop Grumman Corporation
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Trace file with tkprof

2002-09-04 Thread Chuan Zhang

Hi DBAs,

Is there any way to get the same execution statistics between the finished sql 
statement and interrupted sql statement?

Supposed table A have ten million rows. 

If select A.a, A.b from A where ..., in sqlplus session, actually the returned could 
be millions. I could not wait for all the selected rows coming out. I have to 
interrupte it in
the process. Could I still get the same execution statistics in trace file?

The same happened to set autotrace on in sqlplus session. I could only see the 
execution plan at the end of execution. 

Thanks in advance,

Chuan

 


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RE: Trace file with tkprof

2002-09-04 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: Trace file with tkprof





 -Original Message-
 From: Chuan Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 Is there any way to get the same execution statistics between 
 the finished sql statement and interrupted sql statement?
 
 Supposed table A have ten million rows. 
 
 If select A.a, A.b from A where ..., in sqlplus session, 
 actually the returned could be millions. I could not wait for 
 all the selected rows coming out. I have to interrupte it in
 the process. Could I still get the same execution statistics 
 in trace file?
 
 The same happened to set autotrace on in sqlplus session. I 
 could only see the execution plan at the end of execution. 



Would set autotrace traceonly explain or set autotrace traceonly explain statistics do what you need?
From the SQL*Plus manual, SET command:
AUTOT[RACE] {ON|OFF|TRACE[ONLY]} [EXP[LAIN]] [STAT[ISTICS]] 


Displays a report on the execution of successful SQL DML statements (SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE or DELETE). The report can include execution statistics and the query execution path. 

OFF does not display a trace report. ON displays a trace report. TRACEONLY displays a trace report, but does not print query data, if any. EXPLAIN shows the query execution path by performing an EXPLAIN PLAN. STATISTICS displays SQL statement statistics. Information about EXPLAIN PLAN is documented in the Oracle9i SQL Reference manual. 

Using ON or TRACEONLY with no explicit options defaults to EXPLAIN STATISTICS. 


The TRACEONLY option may be useful to suppress the query data of large queries. If STATISTICS is specified, SQL*Plus still fetches the query data from the server, however, the data is not displayed. 

The AUTOTRACE report is printed after the statement has successfully completed. 


Information about Execution Plans and the statistics is documented in the Oracle9i Performance Guide and Reference manual. 

When SQL*Plus produces a STATISTICS report, a second connection to the database is automatically created. This connection is closed when the STATISTICS option is set to OFF, or you log out of SQL*Plus. 




RE: rows values in tkprof

2002-06-25 Thread Remacle Jean

Ravi,

The rows value comes from the execution plan stored in the trace file at
runtime. 
The execution plan is only dumped to trace file when the cursor is closed.
So, if you take another try with sql*plus for instance and quit sql*plus
before closing the trace,
then you will see the rows values printed in your trace. Or if you commit
the transaction even if it is a select then you will see the rows count.

That's a matter of fact there is a tkprof option to add the explain plan
into the output. All the option does is connect to the database when you
issue the tkprof command line and compute a explain plan. 
I see two quirks here first you do not have a real image of what happened at
runtime and second you don't have the rows count.

By the way if your cursor is closed ( you have stats info in your trace
file)  and you issue a tkprof command with the explain option you will see
two execution plan in the output, the stored one and the newly computed one.

Jean Remacle

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In my tkprof output rows values under explain plan
section are not getting printed, is there any
parameter to be set?

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rows values in tkprof

2002-06-24 Thread Nalla Ravi

Dear All,

In my tkprof output rows values under explain plan
section are not getting printed, is there any
parameter to be set?

Thanks,
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tkprof analysis

2002-05-30 Thread Nalla Ravi

 Hi,

Can any one point me or kindly send me the analysis of
TKProf outout please.

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Re: tkprof analysis

2002-05-30 Thread Tim Gorman

Oracle8i Server Tuning guide (part #A76992, available for free download from
http://docs.oracle.com), pages 6-22 through 6-30 for TKPROF output example

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Re: Response time analysis and TKPROF

2002-05-05 Thread Stephane Faroult

Greg Moore wrote:
 
  But this is all on the server side, so in Oracle ..
 
 to get what I apparently want it would be most accurate to use v$sesstat and
 v$session_wait ?
 
 - Greg
 

I do think so. My point was that the SQL statement level is the wrong
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Re: Response time analysis and TKPROF

2002-05-05 Thread Anjo Kolk

Well ,

Depending on what you want:
1) The only way to see 'response times' on SQL statements is to use 10046, but
that adds overhead. There are third party tools out there that will do for you
without the
 10046 trace.

2) v$sesstat will show the service component (cpu) on the session level, not on
the SQL statement level.

3) v$session_wait is close to useless ;-) It will tell you what a session is
waiting on right now or what the last wait of a session was. That is not
enough. You need v$session_event
Again that is on the session level and not on the SQL statement level. See
my comments at 1) about that.

If you response times on the SQL statement level, you need to use 10046 or a
third party tool. On session level use v$sesstat and v$session_event. On
instance level use v$sysstat and v$system_event. Read more on how to do that in
the YAPP paper.

Anjo.



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Re: Response time analysis and TKPROF

2002-05-05 Thread Anjo Kolk


Stephane.

The SQL statement is the right level, believe it or not. Basically the most
expensive SQL statements (resource wise) will float to the top that way.

Anji,


Stephane Faroult wrote:

 Greg Moore wrote:
 
   But this is all on the server side, so in Oracle ..
 
  to get what I apparently want it would be most accurate to use v$sesstat and
  v$session_wait ?
 
  - Greg
 

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 granularity.

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Re: Response time analysis and TKPROF

2002-05-05 Thread Stephane Faroult

Anjo Kolk wrote:
 
 Stephane.
 
 The SQL statement is the right level, believe it or not. Basically the most
 expensive SQL statements (resource wise) will float to the top that way.
 
 Anji,
 

I disagree, with a strong feeling of not talking about the same thing. 
My favorite method for finding the most expensive SQL statements is
rather to check buffer gets at regular intervals, but here of course is
a question of personal taste. But I meet more and more (business)
processes in which, without being top-notch, SQL statements do not look
terribly bad. Rewrite everything, and it roars. I am not sure that
digging deep in this case inside trace files is the most effective.
Having a talk round the coffee-machine with end-users also helps. And
you always have that terrible SQL statement which runs at 2 am and about
which nobody cares as long as the maintenance window is large enough.
What I question is the need to abuse queue theory when, let's put it
clearly, the problem is awful code written by beginners under the
leadership of people too often unable to reread what has been written by
their 'subordinates'. And I have strong doubts about how easily you will
'sell' it to a management who better understands that a faster processor
(or an additional processor) may make things run faster - even if we all
know that it is far from being always true. How much simpler for a
'decision taker' than purchasing days of consulting for a result which
may, and usually will, be much more efficient, but for which quantifying
(even wrongly) results is much more delicate.

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Re: Response time analysis and TKPROF

2002-05-05 Thread Greg Moore

If someone were to ask me whether a TKPROF report tells you anything about
wait events, my first response would be No.

Yet what, if anything, can I learn from a quick glance at the totals for
CPU time and elapsed time?  If...

response time = service time + wait time

 then is it correct to say:

*  response time is:  TKPROF total elapsed time
*  service time is:  TKPROF total CPU time
*  wait time is:  TKPROF total elapsed time - total CPU time

If this is true, then from a TKPROF report, I could glance at these two
totals and see whether wait events are significantly affecting the SQL
statement.

Case #1:  The two totals are very close.  Waits are not affecting this SQL
statement.

Case #2:  Total CPU time is significantly less than total elapsed time.
Waits are significantly affecting the statement.  Consider running the SQL
in a stand alone session, and use before and after snapshots of
v$session_event to see what it's waiting on.

Are my assumptions true?  And as Stephane points out, even if they are true,
are they of any practical value?  Personally, I think it would be kind of
cool to be able to look at a TKPROF report and get a quick read on whether
wait events are significantly affecting this particular SQL statement.

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Re: Response time analysis and TKPROF

2002-05-05 Thread Anjo Kolk

Yes,

I think that we are talking about different things:

1) I don't feel that we are abusing the queue theory by borrowing terms like
service time and wait time.
 Actually when I did the YAPP method, it was back in 1996 on a project that
involved Tuxedo and the
 programmers on the project wanted more processes. I had to convince them to
do it with less and I
 could do that with the service and wait time model (calculating the
response time in the Oracle server for sessions). And it really works well.

2) The problem with tuning by hit ratios and tuning by counting (like number of
buffer gets and number of physical I/O from
 v$sqlarea) is that we ignore the cost or the time they take. We assume that
each Logical I/O or buffer get is the same
 cost. Which is not true. So the statement with a 1000 LIO could be more
expensive than the statement with a 1200 LIO.
 The same is true for the Physical I/O. Not each physical I/O has the same
cost or response time.  Again the statement with
 1000 I/Os may be more expensive than the 1200 I/Os, because one is going
after different disks. I have run tests that show LIO for the same
  statement to be all most twice as slow (depending on some settings, but
the SQL is the same, same plan)

3) If you now take the service time (which is CPU) and that part is 80 percent
of the total response time, we can tell management
that a 50 percent faster CPU will make roughly a 40 percent difference.
That is not to say that is the right approach, because
the opposite may also happen (20 percent CPU and 80 percent wait, 50 percent
faster will only make a 10 percent improvement).
I have seen customers with response time problems that consisted for over 80
percent of I/O problems (I/O too slow).  They needed a
50 percent improvement but couldn't fix the I/O. So they wanted to find 50
percent some where else. That didn't happen ofcourse
and they had to fix the I/O problem. Now that really helped management to
understand where the priorities were: Yeeh, this is not
a database problem but a disk array problem.

4) I believe that 80-90 percent of all Oracle applications out there in the
field are highly inefficient. And that doesn't mean that they
don't use bind variables or that they do many logical I/Os. And that the
only way to fix them is faster CPU's (open to flames here ;-)) or do
some serious redesigning.

5) Oracle provides many interesting statistics, but most of them only count. Now
in Oracle 9i they have added some long overdue response time or
timing statistics. But still it is lacking very important information.  For
example, how can we tell what a SQL statement waited for a particular
session between 2 AM and 3 AM (without 10046 tracing) or for all sessions ?
If the session performs a business function, what resources did the session
use in that period for that business function ? That information is hard to
come by, or with very high overhead with the traditional Oracle tools.

6) probably the most important point. The database doesn't decide WHAT SQL to
execute. The database decides HOW SQL should be executed. The application
decides  WHAT to execute.  Many fast SQL statements can still result in a
slow business function, because do we need all those functions ? I have another
favorite formula for that: Amount * Cost = total cost.  So either reduce
the cost or reduce the amount of SQL statements.  Showed this formula to
bunch of people at an Oracle user group in the netherlands. 2 days later, I
got an email from someone saying that they concentrated on the amount instead of
cost
They reduced the batch job time from 2 hours to 10 minutes without tuning
the SQL statement, but tuned the function.

7) The response time model gives the end-user perspective (without actually
having to go to the coffee machine, unless you want coffee ;-)), but talking to
them
 is very valuable. That doesn't mean they are right ;-)

Anjo.


Stephane Faroult wrote:

 Anjo Kolk wrote:
 
  Stephane.
 
  The SQL statement is the right level, believe it or not. Basically the most
  expensive SQL statements (resource wise) will float to the top that way.
 
  Anji,
 

 I disagree, with a strong feeling of not talking about the same thing.
 My favorite method for finding the most expensive SQL statements is
 rather to check buffer gets at regular intervals, but here of course is
 a question of personal taste. But I meet more and more (business)
 processes in which, without being top-notch, SQL statements do not look
 terribly bad. Rewrite everything, and it roars. I am not sure that
 digging deep in this case inside trace files is the most effective.
 Having a talk round the coffee-machine with end-users also helps. And
 you always have that terrible SQL statement which runs at 2 am and about
 which nobody cares as long as the maintenance window is large enough.
 What I question is the need to abuse queue theory 

RE: Response time analysis and TKPROF

2002-05-05 Thread Alex Hillman

Anjo, you mentioned third party tool using instead of 10046 event trace
files. What is the tool and how it works - if you have this info of cource.

Alex Hillman

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 Yes,

 I think that we are talking about different things:

 1) I don't feel that we are abusing the queue theory by borrowing
 terms like
 service time and wait time.
  Actually when I did the YAPP method, it was back in 1996 on
 a project that
 involved Tuxedo and the
  programmers on the project wanted more processes. I had to
 convince them to
 do it with less and I
  could do that with the service and wait time model (calculating the
 response time in the Oracle server for sessions). And it really
 works well.

 2) The problem with tuning by hit ratios and tuning by counting
 (like number of
 buffer gets and number of physical I/O from
  v$sqlarea) is that we ignore the cost or the time they take.
 We assume that
 each Logical I/O or buffer get is the same
  cost. Which is not true. So the statement with a 1000 LIO
 could be more
 expensive than the statement with a 1200 LIO.
  The same is true for the Physical I/O. Not each physical I/O
 has the same
 cost or response time.  Again the statement with
  1000 I/Os may be more expensive than the 1200 I/Os, because
 one is going
 after different disks. I have run tests that show LIO for the same
   statement to be all most twice as slow (depending on some
 settings, but
 the SQL is the same, same plan)

 3) If you now take the service time (which is CPU) and that part
 is 80 percent
 of the total response time, we can tell management
 that a 50 percent faster CPU will make roughly a 40 percent
 difference.
 That is not to say that is the right approach, because
 the opposite may also happen (20 percent CPU and 80 percent
 wait, 50 percent
 faster will only make a 10 percent improvement).
 I have seen customers with response time problems that
 consisted for over 80
 percent of I/O problems (I/O too slow).  They needed a
 50 percent improvement but couldn't fix the I/O. So they
 wanted to find 50
 percent some where else. That didn't happen ofcourse
 and they had to fix the I/O problem. Now that really helped
 management to
 understand where the priorities were: Yeeh, this is not
 a database problem but a disk array problem.

 4) I believe that 80-90 percent of all Oracle applications out
 there in the
 field are highly inefficient. And that doesn't mean that they
 don't use bind variables or that they do many logical I/Os.
 And that the
 only way to fix them is faster CPU's (open to flames here ;-)) or do
 some serious redesigning.

 5) Oracle provides many interesting statistics, but most of them
 only count. Now
 in Oracle 9i they have added some long overdue response time or
 timing statistics. But still it is lacking very important
 information.  For
 example, how can we tell what a SQL statement waited for a particular
 session between 2 AM and 3 AM (without 10046 tracing) or for
 all sessions ?
 If the session performs a business function, what resources did
 the session
 use in that period for that business function ? That
 information is hard to
 come by, or with very high overhead with the traditional Oracle tools.

 6) probably the most important point. The database doesn't decide
 WHAT SQL to
 execute. The database decides HOW SQL should be executed. The application
 decides  WHAT to execute.  Many fast SQL statements can still
 result in a
 slow business function, because do we need all those functions ?
 I have another
 favorite formula for that: Amount * Cost = total cost.  So
 either reduce
 the cost or reduce the amount of SQL statements.  Showed this formula to
 bunch of people at an Oracle user group in the netherlands. 2
 days later, I
 got an email from someone saying that they concentrated on the
 amount instead of
 cost
 They reduced the batch job time from 2 hours to 10 minutes
 without tuning
 the SQL statement, but tuned the function.

 7) The response time model gives the end-user perspective
 (without actually
 having to go to the coffee machine, unless you want coffee ;-)),
 but talking to
 them
  is very valuable. That doesn't mean they are right ;-)

 Anjo.


 Stephane Faroult wrote:

  Anjo Kolk wrote:
  
   Stephane.
  
   The SQL statement is the right level, believe it or not.
 Basically the most
   expensive SQL statements (resource wise) will float to the
 top that way.
  
   Anji,
  
 
  I disagree, with a strong feeling of not talking about the same thing.
  My favorite method for finding the most expensive SQL statements is
  rather to check buffer gets at regular intervals, but here of course is
  a question of personal taste. But I

Response time analysis and TKPROF

2002-05-04 Thread Greg Moore

For a single SQL statement, I'd like to determine the response time
components.

Since TKPROF output provides totals for Elapsed Time and CPU Time,  is it
correct to say that the service time component is total CPU, and the wait
time component is total Elapsed Time minus total CPU time?

Is this formula perfect, a very good and workable approximation, or way off?



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Re: Response time analysis and TKPROF

2002-05-04 Thread Stephane Faroult

Greg Moore wrote:
 
 For a single SQL statement, I'd like to determine the response time
 components.
 
 Since TKPROF output provides totals for Elapsed Time and CPU Time,  is it
 correct to say that the service time component is total CPU, and the wait
 time component is total Elapsed Time minus total CPU time?
 
 Is this formula perfect, a very good and workable approximation, or way off?
 

Greg,

   Sorry for saying so, but I think that you are erring (unless it's
me). What is for you the 'service'? I presume that it's getting your
result from Oracle. So your server is Oracle. But your server itself is
at the mercy of a number of things and can wait for :
a) CPU,
b) a latch,
c) a lock,
d) I/Os
and probably many other things ...

Elapsed time minus CPU time is certainly a 'wait time' component, but
some of this 'wait' can be a perfectly legitimate part of the 'service'
- such as waiting for a latch or bringing the block into memory.

Queue theory is indeed very interesting, but what do you want to do with
it? As I see it, the benefit of knowing service time and wait time is to
say 'well, if I want to ensure that say 90% of my clients do not spend
more than xxx time units in the system, then I must have that many
servers'. Great for sizing hardware, but I am afraid that tackling the
problem as you are trying to do it cannot lead anywhere. You cannot add
more of the same SQL query, can you? I mean, can you apply queue theory
when servers are brought in by clients? Or your query is just a part of
a 'service' as a transactional monitor understands it, which is, to me,
a bit different.
My feeling is that it is wrong to see one SQL statement as a service. A
business process is a service, and you can diminish service time by
tuning your code - and I am a bit confused about wait times at this
level.
The (primitive) way I see elapsed time and CPU time in tkprof output is
that first elapsed time is how users see it. If the number of logical
reads is high, I have a problem (either the query is inherently costly,
either it is poorly written). If I have a high number of logical reads,
it is somewhat normal to have physical reads as well, and therefore a
significant difference between elapsed and CPU time(I/O waits). If I
have no physical I/O and a huge difference between CPU and elapsed time,
then either I have locking problems or the system is in a sad state. And
so on. But I find theorizing difficult at this level.

Contradictors welcome :-).

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Re: Response time analysis and TKPROF

2002-05-04 Thread Anjo Kolk

The way I am reading Gregs questions, he is asking if service time means CPU time
(sys + user). And that is correct.
But this is all on the server side, so in Oracle ..

Anjo.


Stephane Faroult wrote:

 Greg Moore wrote:
 
  For a single SQL statement, I'd like to determine the response time
  components.
 
  Since TKPROF output provides totals for Elapsed Time and CPU Time,  is it
  correct to say that the service time component is total CPU, and the wait
  time component is total Elapsed Time minus total CPU time?
 
  Is this formula perfect, a very good and workable approximation, or way off?
 

 Greg,

Sorry for saying so, but I think that you are erring (unless it's
 me). What is for you the 'service'? I presume that it's getting your
 result from Oracle. So your server is Oracle. But your server itself is
 at the mercy of a number of things and can wait for :
 a) CPU,
 b) a latch,
 c) a lock,
 d) I/Os
 and probably many other things ...

 Elapsed time minus CPU time is certainly a 'wait time' component, but
 some of this 'wait' can be a perfectly legitimate part of the 'service'
 - such as waiting for a latch or bringing the block into memory.

 Queue theory is indeed very interesting, but what do you want to do with
 it? As I see it, the benefit of knowing service time and wait time is to
 say 'well, if I want to ensure that say 90% of my clients do not spend
 more than xxx time units in the system, then I must have that many
 servers'. Great for sizing hardware, but I am afraid that tackling the
 problem as you are trying to do it cannot lead anywhere. You cannot add
 more of the same SQL query, can you? I mean, can you apply queue theory
 when servers are brought in by clients? Or your query is just a part of
 a 'service' as a transactional monitor understands it, which is, to me,
 a bit different.
 My feeling is that it is wrong to see one SQL statement as a service. A
 business process is a service, and you can diminish service time by
 tuning your code - and I am a bit confused about wait times at this
 level.
 The (primitive) way I see elapsed time and CPU time in tkprof output is
 that first elapsed time is how users see it. If the number of logical
 reads is high, I have a problem (either the query is inherently costly,
 either it is poorly written). If I have a high number of logical reads,
 it is somewhat normal to have physical reads as well, and therefore a
 significant difference between elapsed and CPU time(I/O waits). If I
 have no physical I/O and a huge difference between CPU and elapsed time,
 then either I have locking problems or the system is in a sad state. And
 so on. But I find theorizing difficult at this level.

 Contradictors welcome :-).

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Re: Response time analysis and TKPROF

2002-05-04 Thread Greg Moore

 But this is all on the server side, so in Oracle ..

to get what I apparently want it would be most accurate to use v$sesstat and
v$session_wait ?


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Re: TKPROF?

2002-04-11 Thread Ora NT DBA

I have heard two different ones, no idea if either is correct :-)

trace kernel profiler
transient kernel profiler

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RE: TKPROF?

2002-04-11 Thread Paul Baumgartel

I thought it was Trace Kernel Profiler.

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TKPROF?

2002-04-10 Thread David Nemeth

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RE: TKPROF?

2002-04-10 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

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Re: TKPROF?

2002-04-10 Thread Anjo Kolk

Tool Kernel PROFiler

Anjo.

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RE: TKPROF?

2002-04-10 Thread K Gopalakrishnan

Anjo:

I always thought it Trace Kernel PROFile?


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Re: strange tkprof output for SQLs - II

2002-03-22 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal


Hello all,
Thanks to Bjorn Engsig of MiracleAS.dk
Also,
Here is the answer from Oracle support. I wanted to share with you:
# Begin
tkprof substracts the child statistics from parent ones.
.
the trace file is missing the line for PARSE call of the blsql block
- as it's missing
it's impossible to to determine the start and therefore the times are
reported
to be zero - could be the result of how the tracing was enabled.
.
As it seems enabling trace from different session can produce incomplete
trace file I suggest you enable it in current session to get most accurate
results.
# End
I had seen this wrong behavior for current statements before. But as
seen in the thread, while closing the parent PL/SQL block, we are missing
the PARSE line of parent statement in the trace since it's parsed before
enabling trace. So, tkprof is unable to determine the starting time and
sets cpu,elapsed times to ZERO.
as a result:
Be careful if you enable sql trace from other session. You can
see wrong tkprof outputs not only for the current running statement, but
also for statements which are parsed before enabling trace.
regards...
Danisment Gazi Unal wrote:
Hello Mogens,
I saw this problem whether or not shared pool was flushed for PL/SQLs.
Here are my observations for SQLs!!!
and PL/SQLs:
- Enabling sql trace from current session:
When a cursor is closed after their child recursive statements, their
recursive statistics parsed after the statement are included in parent's
statistics. Recursive statements parsed before the statement are not included.
- Enabling sql trace from other session after a while(after the parenet
statement is parsed):
Recursive statistics are not included in parent statement. But tkprof
doesn't use exac values in raw trace file. If they are not included, why
doesn't tkprof return exac values in raw trace files ? I'll debug tkprof
if it calls Oracle's kernel function to see if tkprof is just a simple
formatter or calculates something that I'm missing.
I did not understand this is expected behavior or not. I would like
to know statistics in raw trace files are inclusive or exclusive.
I'm facing diffierent behaviors for this problem. I've opened an iTAR.
thanks in advance...

Mogens Nrgaard wrote:
Danisment - isn't it always "alter system flush shard_pool"?
I thought so...
Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim) wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I did 2 tests for PL/SQL and SQL statements. This is the test for
>SQL.
>
>Here are the steps:
>
>SQL > alter session flush shared_pool;
>SQL > alter session set sql_trace=true;
>SQL > insert into test select * from test;
>SQL > alter session set sql_trace=false;
>
>
>FROM DICTIONARY:
>
>SVRMGR> select
>SQL_TEXT,DISK_READS,BUFFER_GETS,ROWS_PROCESSED,COMMAND_TYPE from v$sql
>where sql_text like 'insert into test select * from test%';
>
>SQL_TEXT
DISK_READS BUFFER_GET ROWS_PROCE
>COMMAND_TY
>- -- -- --
>--
>insert into test select * from test
345 1014
>8192 2
>1 row selected.
>
>
>FROM RAW TRACE FILE:
>
>PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=36 dep=0 uid=5 oct=2 lid=5 tim=2795932206
>hv=895761708 ad='5083d50c'
>insert into test select * from test
>END OF STMT
>PARSE #1:c=7,e=28,p=17,cr=42,cu=2,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=2795932206
>.
>other recursive statements.
>.
>. near end of file
>EXEC
>#1:c=28,e=258,p=328,cr=597,cu=373,mis=0,r=8192,dep=0,og=4,tim=2795932464
>
>
>
>BUFFER GETS IN RAW TRACE FILE:
>cr: 597 + 42 = 639
>cu: 373 + 2 = 375
>
>Buffer gets = 639 + 375 = 1014, which is same as v$sql.BUFFER_GETS
>
>
>DISK_READS IN RAW TRACE FILE:
>
>p: 17 + 328 = 345, which is same as v$sql.DISK_READS.
>
>According to these test, results in dictionary and raw trace files
are
>same. But tkprof formats as below:
>
>
>insert into test select * from test
>
>
>call count
cpu elapsed disk
query
>current rows
>--- --  -- -- -- --
>--
>Parse 1
0.00 0.02
17 42
>1 0
>Execute 1
0.12 1.86
91 126
>356 8192
>Fetch 0
0.00 0.00
0 0
>0 0
>--- --  -- ------ -- --
>--
>total 2
0.12 1.88
108 168
>357 8192
>
>
>DISK_READS = 108
>BUFFER GETS = 168 + 357 = 525
>
>Question:
>
>Which one is correct ? Dictionary/raw trace file or tkprof results
?
>
>My comment:
>
>I guess, tkprof substructs child recursive statements from parent
user
>statement ? Why ? This is not a PL/SQL statement ? So, statistics
are
>already not included in parent statement ? I guess statistics in raw
>trace files are inclusive statistics which include statistics of their
>child statements according to call orders of kernel calls. But is
this
>expected behavior.
>
>

Re: strange tkprof output for SQLs - II

2002-03-21 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal


Hello Mogens,
I saw this problem whether or not shared pool was flushed for PL/SQLs.
Here are my observations for SQLs!!!
and PL/SQLs:
- Enabling sql trace from current session:
When a cursor is closed after their child recursive statements, their
recursive statistics parsed after the statement are included in parent's
statistics. Recursive statements parsed before the statement are not included.
- Enabling sql trace from other session after a while(after the parenet
statement is parsed):
Recursive statistics are not included in parent statement. But tkprof
doesn't use exac values in raw trace file. If they are not included, why
doesn't tkprof return exac values in raw trace files ? I'll debug tkprof
if it calls Oracle's kernel function to see if tkprof is just a simple
formatter or calculates something that I'm missing.
I did not understand this is expected behavior or not. I would like
to know statistics in raw trace files are inclusive or exclusive.
I'm facing diffierent behaviors for this problem. I've opened an iTAR.
thanks in advance...

Mogens Nrgaard wrote:
Danisment - isn't it always "alter system flush shard_pool"?
I thought so...
Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim) wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I did 2 tests for PL/SQL and SQL statements. This is the test for
>SQL.
>
>Here are the steps:
>
>SQL > alter session flush shared_pool;
>SQL > alter session set sql_trace=true;
>SQL > insert into test select * from test;
>SQL > alter session set sql_trace=false;
>
>
>FROM DICTIONARY:
>
>SVRMGR> select
>SQL_TEXT,DISK_READS,BUFFER_GETS,ROWS_PROCESSED,COMMAND_TYPE from v$sql
>where sql_text like 'insert into test select * from test%';
>
>SQL_TEXT
DISK_READS BUFFER_GET ROWS_PROCE
>COMMAND_TY
>- -- -- --
>--
>insert into test select * from test
345 1014
>8192 2
>1 row selected.
>
>
>FROM RAW TRACE FILE:
>
>PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=36 dep=0 uid=5 oct=2 lid=5 tim=2795932206
>hv=895761708 ad='5083d50c'
>insert into test select * from test
>END OF STMT
>PARSE #1:c=7,e=28,p=17,cr=42,cu=2,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=2795932206
>.
>other recursive statements.
>.
>. near end of file
>EXEC
>#1:c=28,e=258,p=328,cr=597,cu=373,mis=0,r=8192,dep=0,og=4,tim=2795932464
>
>
>
>BUFFER GETS IN RAW TRACE FILE:
>cr: 597 + 42 = 639
>cu: 373 + 2 = 375
>
>Buffer gets = 639 + 375 = 1014, which is same as v$sql.BUFFER_GETS
>
>
>DISK_READS IN RAW TRACE FILE:
>
>p: 17 + 328 = 345, which is same as v$sql.DISK_READS.
>
>According to these test, results in dictionary and raw trace files
are
>same. But tkprof formats as below:
>
>
>insert into test select * from test
>
>
>call count
cpu elapsed disk
query
>current rows
>--- --  -- -- -- --
>--
>Parse 1
0.00 0.02
17 42
>1 0
>Execute 1
0.12 1.86
91 126
>356 8192
>Fetch 0
0.00 0.00
0 0
>0 0
>--- --  -- ------ -- --
>--
>total 2
0.12 1.88
108 168
>357 8192
>
>
>DISK_READS = 108
>BUFFER GETS = 168 + 357 = 525
>
>Question:
>
>Which one is correct ? Dictionary/raw trace file or tkprof results
?
>
>My comment:
>
>I guess, tkprof substructs child recursive statements from parent
user
>statement ? Why ? This is not a PL/SQL statement ? So, statistics
are
>already not included in parent statement ? I guess statistics in raw
>trace files are inclusive statistics which include statistics of their
>child statements according to call orders of kernel calls. But is
this
>expected behavior.
>
>Thanks in advance...
>
>--
>Danisment Gazi Unal
>http://www.unal-bilisim.com
>
>
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strange tkprof output for SQLs - II

2002-03-20 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)

Hello,

I did 2 tests for PL/SQL and SQL statements. This is the test for
SQL.

Here are the steps:

SQL  alter session flush shared_pool;
SQL  alter session set sql_trace=true;
SQL  insert into test select * from test;
SQL  alter session set sql_trace=false;


FROM DICTIONARY:

SVRMGR select
SQL_TEXT,DISK_READS,BUFFER_GETS,ROWS_PROCESSED,COMMAND_TYPE from v$sql
where sql_text like 'insert into test select * from test%';

SQL_TEXT  DISK_READS BUFFER_GET ROWS_PROCE
COMMAND_TY
- -- -- --
--
insert into test select * from test  345   1014
8192  2
1 row selected.


FROM RAW TRACE FILE:

PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=36 dep=0 uid=5 oct=2 lid=5 tim=2795932206
hv=895761708 ad='5083d50c'
insert into test select * from test
END OF STMT
PARSE #1:c=7,e=28,p=17,cr=42,cu=2,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=2795932206
.
other recursive statements.
.
. near end of file
EXEC
#1:c=28,e=258,p=328,cr=597,cu=373,mis=0,r=8192,dep=0,og=4,tim=2795932464



BUFFER GETS IN RAW TRACE FILE:
cr: 597 + 42 = 639
cu: 373 + 2  = 375

Buffer gets = 639 + 375 = 1014, which is same as v$sql.BUFFER_GETS


DISK_READS IN RAW TRACE FILE:

p: 17 + 328 = 345, which is same as v$sql.DISK_READS.

According to these test, results in dictionary and raw trace files are
same. But tkprof formats as below:


insert into test select * from test


call count   cpuelapsed   disk  query
currentrows
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
Parse1  0.00   0.02 17 42
1   0
Execute  1  0.12   1.86 91126
3568192
Fetch0  0.00   0.00  0  0
0   0
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
total2  0.12   1.88108168
3578192


DISK_READS  = 108
BUFFER GETS = 168 + 357 = 525

Question:

Which one is correct ? Dictionary/raw trace file or tkprof results ?

My comment:

I guess, tkprof substructs child recursive statements from parent user
statement ? Why ? This is not a PL/SQL statement ? So, statistics are
already not included in parent statement ? I guess statistics in raw
trace files are inclusive statistics which include statistics of their
child statements according to call orders of kernel calls. But is this
expected behavior.

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strange tkprof output for PL/SQLs

2002-03-20 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)

Hello,

I did 2 tests for PL/SQL and SQL statements. This is the test for
PL/SQL.

I've enabled sql_trace from another session by DBMS_SYSTEM.SET_EV().

Here are my observations and questions:

- The caller PL/SQL package are seen at the end of the raw file as
below:

PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=19 dep=0 uid=5 oct=47 lid=5 tim=2882392980
hv=3659692972 ad='507cbd68'
BEGIN pdoug; END;
END OF STMT
EXEC
#1:c=0,e=0,p=3533,cr=5229,cu=132854,mis=1,r=1,dep=0,og=4,tim=2882392980
*** 2002-03-20 15:20:33.571

Here are the v$SQL results:


select SQL_TEXT,DISK_READS,BUFFER_GETS,ROWS_PROCESSED from v$sql
where upper(SQL_TEXT) like '%DOUG%';
SQL_TEXT   DISK_READS
BUFFER_GET ROWS_PROCE
-- --
-- --
INSERT INTO DOUG VALUES ( :b1,:b2  )
3533 138083 12
BEGIN pdoug; END;
3533 138083  1


Comparision of PL/SQL package with the raw trace file:

Physical reads:
---
Raw trace file: 3533
V$SQL : 3533

Logical IO:
---
Raw trace file: 5229 + 132854 = 138083
V$SQL : 138083

As you see raw trace file and V$SQL are consistent for this parent
PL/SQL statement. This is true for both
enabling sql_trace from current session or other session.


Here are the tkprof output for parent PL/SQL and its child SQL
statement.


Child recursive statement called from parent PL/SQL statement:

INSERT INTO DOUG
VALUES
 ( :b1,:b2  )


call count   cpuelapsed   disk  query
currentrows
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
Parse0  0.00   0.00  0  0
0   0
Execute  83646 41.52 110.37218565
92483   83646
Fetch0  0.00   0.00  0  0
0   0
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
total83646 41.52 110.37218565
92483   83646


Parent statement calls its recursive SQL statement given above:

BEGIN pdoug; END;


call count   cpuelapsed   disk  query
currentrows
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
Parse0  0.00   0.00  0  0
0   0
Execute  1  0.00   0.00844   1279
40206   1
Fetch0  0.00   0.00  0  0
0   0
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
total1  0.00   0.00844   1279
40206   1



Here are the questions:


1- if recursive statements are included in the parent statement, why are
the child statement's some
statistics(cpu,elapsed,current) greater than the parent statement's
statistics. Also, please have a look at
parent statistics. is it possible for 1279+40206=41485 blocks to be
processed in ZERO time and total elapsed
time is ZERO too.


2- if recursive statements are not included in the parent statement, why
tkprof output shows different
values for disk and logical IO. Here are the comparisions between tkprof
output and V$SQL for parent PL/SQL:

Physical reads:
---
Raw trace file: 3533
tkprof output : 844

Logical IO:
---
Raw trace file: 5229 + 132854 = 138083
tkprof output : 1279 +  40206 =  41485


As a result, raw trace file is consistent with V$SQL for the parent
statement. But tkprof reports different
values.

What is your comment ?

Thanks in advance...


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Re: strange tkprof output for SQLs - II

2002-03-20 Thread Mogens Nørgaard

Danisment - isn't it always alter system flush shard_pool? I thought so...

Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim) wrote:

Hello,

I did 2 tests for PL/SQL and SQL statements. This is the test for
SQL.

Here are the steps:

SQL  alter session flush shared_pool;
SQL  alter session set sql_trace=true;
SQL  insert into test select * from test;
SQL  alter session set sql_trace=false;


FROM DICTIONARY:

SVRMGR select
SQL_TEXT,DISK_READS,BUFFER_GETS,ROWS_PROCESSED,COMMAND_TYPE from v$sql
where sql_text like 'insert into test select * from test%';

SQL_TEXT  DISK_READS BUFFER_GET ROWS_PROCE
COMMAND_TY
- -- -- --
--
insert into test select * from test  345   1014
8192  2
1 row selected.


FROM RAW TRACE FILE:

PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=36 dep=0 uid=5 oct=2 lid=5 tim=2795932206
hv=895761708 ad='5083d50c'
insert into test select * from test
END OF STMT
PARSE #1:c=7,e=28,p=17,cr=42,cu=2,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=2795932206
.
other recursive statements.
.
. near end of file
EXEC
#1:c=28,e=258,p=328,cr=597,cu=373,mis=0,r=8192,dep=0,og=4,tim=2795932464



BUFFER GETS IN RAW TRACE FILE:
cr: 597 + 42 = 639
cu: 373 + 2  = 375

Buffer gets = 639 + 375 = 1014, which is same as v$sql.BUFFER_GETS


DISK_READS IN RAW TRACE FILE:

p: 17 + 328 = 345, which is same as v$sql.DISK_READS.

According to these test, results in dictionary and raw trace files are
same. But tkprof formats as below:


insert into test select * from test


call count   cpuelapsed   disk  query
currentrows
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
Parse1  0.00   0.02 17 42
1   0
Execute  1  0.12   1.86 91126
3568192
Fetch0  0.00   0.00  0  0
0   0
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
total2  0.12   1.88108168
3578192


DISK_READS  = 108
BUFFER GETS = 168 + 357 = 525

Question:

Which one is correct ? Dictionary/raw trace file or tkprof results ?

My comment:

I guess, tkprof substructs child recursive statements from parent user
statement ? Why ? This is not a PL/SQL statement ? So, statistics are
already not included in parent statement ? I guess statistics in raw
trace files are inclusive statistics which include statistics of their
child statements according to call orders of kernel calls. But is this
expected behavior.

Thanks in advance...

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RE: where is tkprof?

2002-03-14 Thread Rachel Carmichael

patch set number?

--- K Gopalakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Some intelligent person at MD forgot to add the tkprof (Trace Kernel
 PROFile)
 with the NT versions. OWS has a patch for that.
 
 
 Best Regards,
 K Gopalakrishnan
 Bangalore, INDIA
 
 
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:54 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I'm running 9.0.1.1.1 on Win NT, and I don't have a tkprof
 executable. Am I losing my mind? Did Oracle do away with
 tkprof on NT? I realize the answer to both those questions
 may be yesgrin, but I'm most interested in why I don't
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tkprof plan missing rows

2002-03-13 Thread Baker, Barbara


Oracle 7.3.4, OpenVMS 7.1

My tkprof report is missing the row count in the execution plan.  Does
anyone know why what I might be missing?
If I autotrace the same query in the same database, I do get cardinality.  
The tables have been analyzed.

If I tkprof another database using the same version and OS, that tkprof DOES
have row counts.
I believe I'm just missing a parameter somewhere, but I don't know where.

Thanks for any ideas.
Barb

$ tkprof DRAX02_AMPROD_FG_SRV_041.TRC;1 sel.tkp  explain=user/pwd
sys=no

*
***


Rows Execution Plan
---  ---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  0   TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY ROWID) OF 'WO'
  0INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF 'PK_WO' (UNIQUE)





here's a tkprof from a different database:

Rows Execution Plan
---  ---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
1440212   SORT (GROUP BY)
2785044HASH JOIN
3109095 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY ROWID) OF
'WORK_ORDER_DETAILS'
3762491  INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF
 'WORK_ORDER_DETAILS_IDX3' (NON-UNIQUE)
5727880 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (FULL) OF 'SLS_OF_REC'



  
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Re: tkprof plan missing rows

2002-03-13 Thread Mohammed Shakir

Do you have data in the tables that you are running the query againt?
You do have row count zero, so tkprof seems to count the rows but the
rows do not seem to be there or are not selected.

--- Baker, Barbara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Oracle 7.3.4, OpenVMS 7.1
 
 My tkprof report is missing the row count in the execution plan. 
 Does
 anyone know why what I might be missing?
 If I autotrace the same query in the same database, I do get
 cardinality.  
 The tables have been analyzed.
 
 If I tkprof another database using the same version and OS, that
 tkprof DOES
 have row counts.
 I believe I'm just missing a parameter somewhere, but I don't know
 where.
 
 Thanks for any ideas.
 Barb
 
 $ tkprof DRAX02_AMPROD_FG_SRV_041.TRC;1 sel.tkp  explain=user/pwd
 sys=no
 
 *
 ***
 
 
 Rows Execution Plan
 ---  ---
   0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
   0   TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY ROWID) OF 'WO'
   0INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF 'PK_WO' (UNIQUE)
 


 
 
 
 here's a tkprof from a different database:
 
 Rows Execution Plan
 ---  ---
   0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
 1440212   SORT (GROUP BY)
 2785044HASH JOIN
 3109095 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY ROWID) OF
 'WORK_ORDER_DETAILS'
 3762491  INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF
  'WORK_ORDER_DETAILS_IDX3' (NON-UNIQUE)
 5727880 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (FULL) OF 'SLS_OF_REC'
 


 
   
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RE: where is tkprof?

2002-03-09 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Last night I applied the 9.0.1.2 patchset (for Win NT 4.0).
Tkprof.exe appeared after I was done :) 

- Kirti

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patch set number?

--- K Gopalakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jonathan,
 
 Some intelligent person at MD forgot to add the tkprof (Trace Kernel
 PROFile)
 with the NT versions. OWS has a patch for that.
 
 
 Best Regards,
 K Gopalakrishnan
 Bangalore, INDIA
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Gennick
 Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:54 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I'm running 9.0.1.1.1 on Win NT, and I don't have a tkprof
 executable. Am I losing my mind? Did Oracle do away with
 tkprof on NT? I realize the answer to both those questions
 may be yesgrin, but I'm most interested in why I don't
 have tkprof.
 
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tkprof plan missing rows

2002-03-08 Thread Baker, Barbara


Oracle 7.3.4, OpenVMS 7.1

My tkprof report is missing the row count in the execution plan.  Does
anyone know why what I might be missing?
If I autotrace the same query in the same database, I do get cardinality.  
The tables have been analyzed.

If I tkprof another database using the same version and OS, that tkprof DOES
have row counts.
I believe I'm just missing a parameter somewhere, but I don't know where.

Thanks for any ideas.
Barb

$ tkprof DRAX02_AMPROD_FG_SRV_041.TRC;1 sel.tkp  explain=user/pwd
sys=no

*
***


Rows Execution Plan
---  ---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  0   TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY ROWID) OF 'WO'
  0INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF 'PK_WO' (UNIQUE)





here's a tkprof from a different database:

Rows Execution Plan
---  ---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
1440212   SORT (GROUP BY)
2785044HASH JOIN
3109095 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY ROWID) OF
'WORK_ORDER_DETAILS'
3762491  INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF
 'WORK_ORDER_DETAILS_IDX3' (NON-UNIQUE)
5727880 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (FULL) OF 'SLS_OF_REC'



  
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Re: tkprof plan missing rows

2002-03-08 Thread Jonathan Lewis


It usually means the cursor for that query
was not closed before the end of file (e.g.
SQL in pl/sql and you didn't do an exit
to get out of sql*plus) so Oracle never
got around to dumping the STAT lines.


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Date: 08 March 2002 18:15


|
|Oracle 7.3.4, OpenVMS 7.1
|
|My tkprof report is missing the row count in the execution plan.
Does
|anyone know why what I might be missing?
|If I autotrace the same query in the same database, I do get
cardinality.
|The tables have been analyzed.
|
|If I tkprof another database using the same version and OS, that
tkprof DOES
|have row counts.
|I believe I'm just missing a parameter somewhere, but I don't know
where.
|
|Thanks for any ideas.
|Barb
|
|$ tkprof DRAX02_AMPROD_FG_SRV_041.TRC;1 sel.tkp  explain=user/pwd
|sys=no
|
|*
|***
|
|
|Rows Execution Plan
|---  ---
|  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
|  0   TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY ROWID) OF 'WO'
|  0INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF 'PK_WO' (UNIQUE)
|
|*
***
|
|

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RE: where is tkprof?

2002-03-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael

patch set number?

--- K Gopalakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Some intelligent person at MD forgot to add the tkprof (Trace Kernel
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 Best Regards,
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Re: Help with Parsing and TKPROF output

2002-03-06 Thread Bjørn Engsig

You indicate, that you are specifying max_opencursors (I assume you mean 
maxopencursors) and that your program program is written in Pro*C (or another 
precompiler)  Do remember, that maxopencursors only influences implicit 
cursors in the precompiler and you must code explicit cursors correctly, so 
that they do not re-parse contineously.  For explicit cursors, you should 
avoid doing CLOSE, simply using OPEN again (on an already open cursor) causes 
it to avoid the parse step.

I would also recommend inspecting the raw trace file to see which of the 
parse calls is really taking that long.

Thanks, Bjørn. 

On Wednesday 06 March 2002 04:53, you wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have an online program that is timing out and when I trace it I get
 the following at the bottom of my tkprof output. It's easy to see why
 the transaction is running slow, because of all the parsing. But the
 program and all called modules are compiled with max_opencursors = 75 to
 stop the parsing problem, though it doesn't seem to be helping here.

 There are only 64 unique sql statements that all use host variables, so
 why does it also say there 786 sql statements in the session, what could
 be causing the 64 to turn into 786 and be getting reparsed all the time

 :-((

 Any help on this would be greatly appreciated as the transaction dies
 after awhile and it's in production  doh!

 Thanks
 Ian


 
 

 OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS

 call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
 rows
 --- --   -- -- -- --
 --
 Parse  667  1.50  22.38  0  0  0
 0
 Execute   5071  0.30   0.32  0460 31
 5514
 Fetch 7439  1.17   6.60  1  66144  4
 7257
 --- --   -- -- -- --
 --
 total13177  2.97  29.30  1  66604 35
 12771

 Misses in library cache during parse: 0


 OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS

 call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
 rows
 --- --   -- -- -- --
 --
 Parse  118  0.19   3.89  0  0  0
 0
 Execute533  0.32   4.56  0  0  0
 532
 Fetch  267  0.00   0.02  0271532
 267
 --- --   -- -- -- --
 --
 total  918  0.51   8.47  0271532
 799

 Misses in library cache during parse: 0

   784  user  SQL statements in session.
 2  internal SQL statements in session.
   786  SQL statements in session.
64  statements EXPLAINed in this session.
 
 
 Trace file: ora00503.trc
 Trace file compatibility: 7.03.02
 Sort options: default

1  session in tracefile.
  784  user  SQL statements in trace file.
2  internal SQL statements in trace file.
  786  SQL statements in trace file.
   68  unique SQL statements in trace file.
   64  SQL statements EXPLAINed using schema:
CSISDBA.prof$plan_table
  Default table was used.
  Table was created.
  Table was dropped.
19969  lines in trace file.


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where is tkprof?

2002-03-06 Thread Jonathan Gennick

I'm running 9.0.1.1.1 on Win NT, and I don't have a tkprof
executable. Am I losing my mind? Did Oracle do away with
tkprof on NT? I realize the answer to both those questions
may be yesgrin, but I'm most interested in why I don't
have tkprof.

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RE: Help with Parsing and TKPROF output

2002-03-06 Thread Biddell, Ian

Hi Bjorn,

Thanks for your reply.
Based on what you have said I think I might have come across what could be the 
problem. We have common modules (the server side is microfocus cobol - oracle 7.3.4 on 
NT) that are used by the online servers and also batch programs.
Normally the online programs are compiled with mode=ansi and the batch programs are 
compiled with mode=oracle so that cursors can be kept open across commits

So I am wondering if the calls to common modules by the online system which are 
compiled with mode=ansi causes the cursor to be closed and the cursor cache entry lost 
so the next time the common module is called it has to reparse it, even though it may 
still be in the same online transaction.

Trouble is I don't really know what to do to fix this problem as I'm sure we had to 
have the mode=ansi for the online programs for some reason (it was all designed about 
3 years ago so I'm having trouble remembering the reasons for some things)

Do you think it would be a problem having mode=oracle for the online system ??


Thanks again
Ian

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Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2002 18:28
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

You indicate, that you are specifying max_opencursors (I assume you mean 
maxopencursors) and that your program program is written in Pro*C (or another 
precompiler)  Do remember, that maxopencursors only influences implicit 
cursors in the precompiler and you must code explicit cursors correctly, so 
that they do not re-parse contineously.  For explicit cursors, you should 
avoid doing CLOSE, simply using OPEN again (on an already open cursor) causes 
it to avoid the parse step.

I would also recommend inspecting the raw trace file to see which of the 
parse calls is really taking that long.

Thanks, Bjørn. 

On Wednesday 06 March 2002 04:53, you wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have an online program that is timing out and when I trace it I get
 the following at the bottom of my tkprof output. It's easy to see why
 the transaction is running slow, because of all the parsing. But the
 program and all called modules are compiled with max_opencursors = 75 to
 stop the parsing problem, though it doesn't seem to be helping here.

 There are only 64 unique sql statements that all use host variables, so
 why does it also say there 786 sql statements in the session, what could
 be causing the 64 to turn into 786 and be getting reparsed all the time

 :-((

 Any help on this would be greatly appreciated as the transaction dies
 after awhile and it's in production  doh!

 Thanks
 Ian


 
 

 OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS

 call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
 rows
 --- --   -- -- -- --
 --
 Parse  667  1.50  22.38  0  0  0
 0
 Execute   5071  0.30   0.32  0460 31
 5514
 Fetch 7439  1.17   6.60  1  66144  4
 7257
 --- --   -- -- -- --
 --
 total13177  2.97  29.30  1  66604 35
 12771

 Misses in library cache during parse: 0


 OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS

 call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
 rows
 --- --   -- -- -- --
 --
 Parse  118  0.19   3.89  0  0  0
 0
 Execute533  0.32   4.56  0  0  0
 532
 Fetch  267  0.00   0.02  0271532
 267
 --- --   -- -- -- --
 --
 total  918  0.51   8.47  0271532
 799

 Misses in library cache during parse: 0

   784  user  SQL statements in session.
 2  internal SQL statements in session.
   786  SQL statements in session.
64  statements EXPLAINed in this session.
 
 
 Trace file: ora00503.trc
 Trace file compatibility: 7.03.02
 Sort options: default

1  session in tracefile.
  784  user  SQL statements in trace file.
2  internal SQL statements in trace file.
  786  SQL statements in trace file.
   68  unique SQL statements in trace file.
   64  SQL statements EXPLAINed using schema:
CSISDBA.prof$plan_table
  Default table was used.
  Table was created.
  Table was dropped.
19969  lines in trace file.


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RE: where is tkprof?

2002-03-06 Thread K Gopalakrishnan

Jonathan,

Some intelligent person at MD forgot to add the tkprof (Trace Kernel
PROFile)
with the NT versions. OWS has a patch for that.


Best Regards,
K Gopalakrishnan
Bangalore, INDIA



-Original Message-
Gennick
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:54 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I'm running 9.0.1.1.1 on Win NT, and I don't have a tkprof
executable. Am I losing my mind? Did Oracle do away with
tkprof on NT? I realize the answer to both those questions
may be yesgrin, but I'm most interested in why I don't
have tkprof.

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Help with Parsing and TKPROF output

2002-03-05 Thread Biddell, Ian








Hi All,



I have an online program that is timing out and when I trace
it I get the following at the bottom of my tkprof output. Its easy to
see why the transaction is running slow, because of all the parsing. But the
program and all called modules are compiled with max_opencursors = 75 to stop
the parsing problem, though it doesnt seem to be helping here.



There are only 64 unique sql statements that all use host
variables, so why does it also say there 786 sql statements in the session,
what could be causing the 64 to turn into 786 and be getting reparsed all the time :-((



Any help on this would be greatly appreciated as the
transaction dies after awhile and its in production doh!



Thanks

Ian









OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS



call count cpu elapsed disk query current rows

--- --
 -- -- -- -- --

Parse 667 1.50 22.38
0
0
0
0

Execute
5071
0.30
0.32
0
460
31 5514

Fetch 7439 1.17 6.60
1
66144
4 7257

--- --
 -- -- -- -- --

total 13177 2.97 29.30
1
66604
35
12771



Misses in library cache during parse: 0





OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS



call count cpu elapsed disk query current rows

--- --
 -- -- -- -- --

Parse 118 0.19 3.89
0
0
0 0

Execute 533 0.32 4.56
0
0
0
532

Fetch 267 0.00 0.02
0
271
532
267

--- --
 -- -- -- -- --

total 918 0.51 8.47
0
271 532
799



Misses in library cache during parse: 0



 784 user SQL statements in session.


2 internal
SQL statements in session.

 786 SQL
statements in session.

 64 statements
EXPLAINed in this session.



Trace file: ora00503.trc

Trace file
compatibility: 7.03.02

Sort options: default



 1 session in
tracefile.

 784 user SQL statements in trace file.

 2 internal SQL
statements in trace file.

 786 SQL statements in trace file.

 68 unique SQL
statements in trace file.

 64 SQL
statements EXPLAINed using schema:


CSISDBA.prof$plan_table

 Default
table was used.


Table was created.


Table was dropped.

 19969 lines in
trace file.








RE: Help with Parsing and TKPROF output

2002-03-05 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

Ian,
I'll start with some easy questions:
What version of Oracle and what OS?
Can you show the SQL being run or some of it?
What does v$session_event and v$session_wait show?
Can you reproduce it when you run the SQL called by the program from SQLPlus?

I had a problem ion 815 / NT with really really long SQL statements (produced by 
Forms) that would parse forever and never complete - is your statement (or any of 
them) really long?

Regards,
Bruce Reardon

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2002 14:53

Hi All,
 
I have an online program that is timing out and when I trace it I get the following at 
the bottom of my tkprof output. It's easy to see why the transaction is running slow, 
because of all the parsing. But the program and all called modules are compiled with 
max_opencursors = 75 to stop the parsing problem, though it doesn't seem to be helping 
here.
 
There are only 64 unique sql statements that all use host variables, so why does it 
also say there 786 sql statements in the session, what could be causing the 64 to turn 
into 786 and be getting reparsed all the time  :-((
 
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated as the transaction dies after awhile and 
it's in production  doh!
 
Thanks
Ian
 
 

 
OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
 
call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrentrows
--- --   -- -- -- --  --
Parse  667  1.50  22.38  0  0  0   0
Execute   5071  0.30   0.32  0460 315514
Fetch 7439  1.17   6.60  1  66144  47257
--- --   -- -- -- --  --
total13177  2.97  29.30  1  66604 35   12771
 
Misses in library cache during parse: 0
 
 
OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL RECURSIVE STATEMENTS
 
call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrentrows
--- --   -- -- -- --  --
Parse  118  0.19   3.89  0  0  0   0
Execute533  0.32   4.56  0  0  0 532
Fetch  267  0.00   0.02  0271532 267
--- --   -- -- -- --  --
total  918  0.51   8.47  0271532 799
 
Misses in library cache during parse: 0
 
  784  user  SQL statements in session.
2  internal SQL statements in session.
  786  SQL statements in session.
   64  statements EXPLAINed in this session.

Trace file: ora00503.trc
Trace file compatibility: 7.03.02
Sort options: default
 
   1  session in tracefile.
 784  user  SQL statements in trace file.
   2  internal SQL statements in trace file.
 786  SQL statements in trace file.
  68  unique SQL statements in trace file.
  64  SQL statements EXPLAINed using schema:
   CSISDBA.prof$plan_table
 Default table was used.
 Table was created.
 Table was dropped.
   19969  lines in trace file.
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Tkprof output

2002-02-22 Thread Aldi Barco

Hi Listers,

I got the following statement in the tkprof output file :

update EMP set ENAME=:V001,EMPNO=:V002
where rowid = :V003

I'm just wondering how to get the value of that variables (instead of :V001, 
:V002 and :V003).
Is there a way to do that ?
Thanks.

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RE: Tkprof output

2002-02-22 Thread Paul . Parker

Set you 10046 trace at level 4 or 12, and then check the trace file.

Paul


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Hi Listers,

I got the following statement in the tkprof output file :

update EMP set ENAME=:V001,EMPNO=:V002
where rowid = :V003

I'm just wondering how to get the value of that variables (instead of :V001,

:V002 and :V003).
Is there a way to do that ?
Thanks.

Aldi

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RE: Tkprof output

2002-02-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Paul (or anyone) - 
Is there a way to set the level within the session as:
 alter session set sql_trace = true
Or do I have to start the session, start a SQLPLUS session, find the
session_id and run the procedure to set it on another session? 
Dennis Williams
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Set you 10046 trace at level 4 or 12, and then check the trace file.

Paul


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Hi Listers,

I got the following statement in the tkprof output file :

update EMP set ENAME=:V001,EMPNO=:V002
where rowid = :V003

I'm just wondering how to get the value of that variables (instead of :V001,

:V002 and :V003).
Is there a way to do that ?
Thanks.

Aldi

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RE: Tkprof output

2002-02-22 Thread Baker, Barbara

Dennis:
In the session:
alter session set events '10046 trace name context forever, level
12'


Barb

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 Paul (or anyone) - 
   Is there a way to set the level within the session as:
alter session set sql_trace = true
   Or do I have to start the session, start a SQLPLUS session, find the
 session_id and run the procedure to set it on another session? 
 Dennis Williams
 DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
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 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:23 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Set you 10046 trace at level 4 or 12, and then check the trace file.
 
 Paul
 
 
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 Hi Listers,
 
 I got the following statement in the tkprof output file :
 
 update EMP set ENAME=:V001,EMPNO=:V002
 where rowid = :V003
 
 I'm just wondering how to get the value of that variables (instead of
 :V001,
 
 :V002 and :V003).
 Is there a way to do that ?
 Thanks.
 
 Aldi
 
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