Temp extent sizes and Strange performance problem

2001-09-19 Thread Cherie_Machler


I posted earlier about my SQL statement that overnight went from less than
2 minutes to about 25 minutes on our nightly data warehouse loads.   We
used RMAN to move an exact copy of the database from before the process
started running long to a different unix box.   After running sql_trace and
tkprof on the SQL statement in question (see below) on both the current and
pre-problem database, the execution times were similar and the explain
plans were identical except for minor differences in the number of rows
returned.

I then looked at all of the initialization parameters and they look the
same except that we created the rman copy with a smaller shared pool (due
to resource constraints on the box we moved the copy to).

One thing that I noticed was that the extent sizes for the TEMP tablespace
is different.   The day that we started having this problem, we had a disk
failure.   The TEMP tablespace was on the failed disk.  Another DBA dropped
the TEMP tablespace and recreated it on a different disk (apparently with a
larger extent size).   The current next_extent size is 4194304.   The
next_extent size on the pre-problem TEMP tablespace is  40960.

Is it possible that this difference in extent size in the TEMP tablespace
could cause a ten-fold degradation in performance?

Cherie


   
   
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Did you check to see if there is anything else running on the server that
might take
resource away from Oracle?  It has happened to me once that the SA was
running something that he shouldn't and it's using a lot of system
resources.

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I have a nightly load job that was being tracked by our developers.
According to their nightly logs (going back months), a query was running
as far back as they can record with a sub-second response time.

Then on a particular date (Aug. 23rd), the query started taking more
than 20 minutes to complete.   It has taken that long to complete ever
since.

I looked at the explain plan and it looks o.k.   Indexes are being used
and there are no suspicious full table scans.  The init.ora file has not
changed
since then.

We restored a full copy of the database to an alternate host using rman.
It should be an exact copy as of Aug. 16th.   I ran the query on the copy
and
on the current production database and the resulting explain plans were
identical except for the number of rows returned.   Total execution time
and cpu times were similar.

I looked through our change documentation and I do not see any record
of data structure changes or any data changes at all in the database
in question.

I am sort of at a loss for what to try next.   What sort of changes might
cause such an extreme degradation in performance as this?

This is an 8.1.7 database on Sun Solaris 2.8.  The optimization is
rule-based.
No partitioning.   Database is about 80 Gig in size.   Following is the
explain
plan, if anyone is interested:

SELECT ACTV_EAS_PERS_RPT_PROF_VIEW.LOGIN_ID,
ACTV_EAS_PERS_RPT_PROF_VIEW.ACCT_GRP_ID,
ACTV_EAS_PERS_RPT_PROF_VIEW.RPT_PROF_ID,
ACTV_EAS_PERS_RPT_PROF_VIEW.INS_DT_TM,
ACTV_EAS_PERS_RPT_PROF_VIEW.UPD_DT_TM
FROM GELCO.ACTV_EAS_PERS_RPT_PROF_VIEW

call 

Re: Temp extent sizes and Strange performance problem

2001-09-19 Thread Connor McDonald

Its unlikely - but is it possible you had a tempfile
before and now a datafile for TEMP?

hth
connor

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 I posted earlier about my SQL statement that
 overnight went from less than
 2 minutes to about 25 minutes on our nightly data
 warehouse loads.   We
 used RMAN to move an exact copy of the database from
 before the process
 started running long to a different unix box.  
 After running sql_trace and
 tkprof on the SQL statement in question (see below)
 on both the current and
 pre-problem database, the execution times were
 similar and the explain
 plans were identical except for minor differences in
 the number of rows
 returned.
 
 I then looked at all of the initialization
 parameters and they look the
 same except that we created the rman copy with a
 smaller shared pool (due
 to resource constraints on the box we moved the copy
 to).
 
 One thing that I noticed was that the extent sizes
 for the TEMP tablespace
 is different.   The day that we started having this
 problem, we had a disk
 failure.   The TEMP tablespace was on the failed
 disk.  Another DBA dropped
 the TEMP tablespace and recreated it on a different
 disk (apparently with a
 larger extent size).   The current next_extent size
 is 4194304.   The
 next_extent size on the pre-problem TEMP tablespace
 is  40960.
 
 Is it possible that this difference in extent size
 in the TEMP tablespace
 could cause a ten-fold degradation in performance?
 
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 Did you check to see if there is anything else
 running on the server that
 might take
 resource away from Oracle?  It has happened to me
 once that the SA was
 running something that he shouldn't and it's using a
 lot of system
 resources.
 
 HTH
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/14/01 03:05PM 
 !! Please do not post Off Topic to this List !!
 
 
 I have a nightly load job that was being tracked by
 our developers.
 According to their nightly logs (going back months),
 a query was running
 as far back as they can record with a sub-second
 response time.
 
 Then on a particular date (Aug. 23rd), the query
 started taking more
 than 20 minutes to complete.   It has taken that
 long to complete ever
 since.
 
 I looked at the explain plan and it looks o.k.  
 Indexes are being used
 and there are no suspicious full table scans.  The
 init.ora file has not
 changed
 since then.
 
 We restored a full copy of the database to an
 alternate host using rman.
 It should be an exact copy as of Aug. 16th.   I ran
 the query on the copy
 and
 on the current production database and the resulting
 explain plans were
 identical except for the number of rows returned.  
 Total execution time
 and cpu times were similar.
 
 I looked through our change documentation and I do
 not see any record
 of data structure changes or any data changes at all
 in the database
 in question.
 
 I am sort of at a loss for what to try next.   What
 sort of changes might
 cause such an extreme degradation in performance as
 this?
 
 This is an 8.1.7 database on Sun Solaris 2.8.  The
 optimization is
 rule-based.
 No partitioning.   Database is about 80 Gig in size.
   Following is the
 explain
 plan, if