RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
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MySQL will walk all over PostgreSQL,
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we? Jared
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Yet, despite MySQL's progress in the
market, "we haven'tfound very much MySQL out there," says Microsoft's
Rizzo.
"That's the best news I could have," retorts Mickos, MYSqlAB. "As
long as Microsoft is in denial, we're fine."
Could we add Uncle Larry to the
list of those in denial??MYSQL BREAKS INTO THE DATA
CENTERMySQL is changing the nature of the database market with a
powerfulcombination of low cost and high
performance.http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/software/story/0,10801,85900,00.htmlClick
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Re: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
Amen. In Miracle we'll do nicely in the years to come by being able to support VMS, PL/SQL (the COBOL of the databases - widely used, very efficient, not in vogue anymore for new projects), perhaps Oracle (if it goes the way we could fear), UNIX (which is certainly dead now - if you had any doubts before, it's obvious by now. It's over.), and other legacy products and systems. It might not be a growth area, but it will be around for many years. There are so many good ideas out there from the various database vendors. The whole MySQL thing seems very smart (and will win over PostgreSQL of course, because the marketing is better). Microsoft's idea of allowing you to write stored procedures in .Net compliant languages (I wish Oracle would make PL/SQL .Net compliant - that would be very cool indeed) which makes it possible to get rid of that #¤% TransactSQL crap. Oracle's new-found emphasis on the right performance stuff in 10g. But I wonder if databases will be something special at all in a few years time? Why not just do Google-things for selects and some not-yet-invented Google-DML on all sorts of data sources? Microsoft will make SQL Server a part of the file system in 2005, I think. Then what? It's Linux and Windows and nothing else then. Mogens Melanie Caffrey wrote: This is true, Tom. Some technologies never die ... Personally, COBOL and CICS are not my favorite skillsets, *but* knock wood if it ever comes down to going back to coding in COBOL or being unemployed then --- Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's a quiet little secret in consultant-land right now that the older technologies are in play. as the older-folks retire, there is a need for cobol-based support. especially in NY state agencies. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Goulet, Dick scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: OH, ANCIENT History!! u... do i admit to getting a job hit last week because i know CICS?;-) it's still out there and still being used. -- Bill Shrek Thater ORACLE DBA I'm going to work my ticket if I can... -- Gilwell song [EMAIL PROTECTED] A hundred times every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labours of others. - Albert Einstein -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
Will 10g(rid) be succeeded by 11G(oogle)? CJ DBA!ert, Independent Oracle Consultancy Kastanjelaan 61C 2743 BX Waddinxveen The Netherlands tel. +31 (0) 182 640 428 fax +31 (0) 182 640 429 mobile+31 (0) 653 911 950 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Nice thoughts Mogens. I just read an article in a Dutch magazine which states, and I fully agree, that the whole Soapy netservice thing won't work. Or will webservices be 2PC enabled? That will scale! (Use more soap) :-( I like your idea of google-dml. it's a real challenge! let's make google-2pc and google-PL/SQL! Carel-Jan At 08:59 9-11-03 -0800, you wrote: Amen. In Miracle we'll do nicely in the years to come by being able to support VMS, PL/SQL (the COBOL of the databases - widely used, very efficient, not in vogue anymore for new projects), perhaps Oracle (if it goes the way we could fear), UNIX (which is certainly dead now - if you had any doubts before, it's obvious by now. It's over.), and other legacy products and systems. It might not be a growth area, but it will be around for many years. There are so many good ideas out there from the various database vendors. The whole MySQL thing seems very smart (and will win over PostgreSQL of course, because the marketing is better). Microsoft's idea of allowing you to write stored procedures in .Net compliant languages (I wish Oracle would make PL/SQL .Net compliant - that would be very cool indeed) which makes it possible to get rid of that #¤% TransactSQL crap. Oracle's new-found emphasis on the right performance stuff in 10g. But I wonder if databases will be something special at all in a few years time? Why not just do Google-things for selects and some not-yet-invented Google-DML on all sorts of data sources? Microsoft will make SQL Server a part of the file system in 2005, I think. Then what? It's Linux and Windows and nothing else then. Mogens Melanie Caffrey wrote: This is true, Tom. Some technologies never die ... Personally, COBOL and CICS are not my favorite skillsets, *but* knock wood if it ever comes down to going back to coding in COBOL or being unemployed then ... --- Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's a quiet little secret in consultant-land right now that the older technologies are in play. as the older-folks retire, there is a need for cobol-based support. especially in NY state agencies. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Goulet, Dick scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: OH, ANCIENT History!! u... do i admit to getting a job hit last week because i know CICS?;-) it's still out there and still being used. -- Bill Shrek Thater ORACLE DBA I'm going to work my ticket if I can... -- Gilwell song [EMAIL PROTECTED] A hundred times every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labours of others. - Albert Einstein -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). DBA!ert, Independent Oracle Consultancy Kastanjelaan 61C 2743 BX Waddinxveen The Netherlands tel. +31 (0) 182 640 428 fax +31 (0) 182 640 429 mobile+31 (0) 653 911
RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
Let's not forget PostgreSQL, arguably more enterprise-ready than MySQL, and now with clustering on Linux: http://www.open-mag.com/0182533982.shtml Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Can I say I told you so! now? ;) Goulet, Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2003 02:59 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Uncle Larry, wake up!!! The last statements in the article are really telling: Yet, despite MySQL's progress in the market, we haven't found very much MySQL out there, says Microsoft's Rizzo. That's the best news I could have, retorts Mickos, MYSql AB. As long as Microsoft is in denial, we're fine. Could we add Uncle Larry to the list of those in denial?? MYSQL BREAKS INTO THE DATA CENTER MySQL is changing the nature of the database market with a powerful combination of low cost and high performance. http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/software/story/0,10801,8590 0,00.html Click on the link or copy and paste it into your browser to view the story forwarded to you from Computerworld.com. Dick Goulet -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
AH, My choice in an Open Source DB. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Let's not forget PostgreSQL, arguably more enterprise-ready than MySQL, and now with clustering on Linux: http://www.open-mag.com/0182533982.shtml Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Can I say I told you so! now? ;) Goulet, Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2003 02:59 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Uncle Larry, wake up!!! The last statements in the article are really telling: Yet, despite MySQL's progress in the market, we haven't found very much MySQL out there, says Microsoft's Rizzo. That's the best news I could have, retorts Mickos, MYSql AB. As long as Microsoft is in denial, we're fine. Could we add Uncle Larry to the list of those in denial?? MYSQL BREAKS INTO THE DATA CENTER MySQL is changing the nature of the database market with a powerful combination of low cost and high performance. http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/software/story/0,10801,8590 0,00.html Click on the link or copy and paste it into your browser to view the story forwarded to you from Computerworld.com. Dick Goulet -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
yes, but as you all know by now ( or should know ), having the best technology does not make you a market leader. MySQL will walk all over PostgreSQL, regardless of the superiority of the latter. Otherwise, we would all be using RDB, wouldn't we? Jared Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/07/2003 06:45 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!! Let's not forget PostgreSQL, arguably more enterprise-ready than MySQL, and now with clustering on Linux: http://www.open-mag.com/0182533982.shtml Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Can I say I told you so! now? ;) Goulet, Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2003 02:59 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Uncle Larry, wake up!!! The last statements in the article are really telling: Yet, despite MySQL's progress in the market, we haven't found very much MySQL out there, says Microsoft's Rizzo. That's the best news I could have, retorts Mickos, MYSql AB. As long as Microsoft is in denial, we're fine. Could we add Uncle Larry to the list of those in denial?? MYSQL BREAKS INTO THE DATA CENTER MySQL is changing the nature of the database market with a powerful combination of low cost and high performance. http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/software/story/0,10801,8590 0,00.html Click on the link or copy and paste it into your browser to view the story forwarded to you from Computerworld.com. Dick Goulet -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
Oh, RDBheavy sigh Oracle Corp was smart enough to strip out all the goodies from it except for the SQLMOD feature. Head and tails above the Pro*Crap. Complete language independence, all your callable SQL in one (or more) modules, etc. Who knows? We won't put *any* Oracle DBs on Winders after more than one corruption on 7.4.3. Yes, things have changed, but if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck... Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yes, but as you all know by now ( or should know ), having the best technology does not make you a market leader. MySQL will walk all over PostgreSQL, regardless of the superiority of the latter. Otherwise, we would all be using RDB, wouldn't we? Jared Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/07/2003 06:45 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!! Let's not forget PostgreSQL, arguably more enterprise-ready than MySQL, and now with clustering on Linux: http://www.open-mag.com/0182533982.shtml Rich -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
Can I say I told you so! now? ;) Yeah, I've already sold most of my Oracle stock. :-) The lastest versions of MySQL have been performing quite nicely and their plans to improve transactions are progressing apace. The fact that they are studying Cary's book says something too. DBA's wake up! -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Importance: High Can I say I told you so! now? ;) Goulet, Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2003 02:59 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Uncle Larry, wake up!!! The last statements in the article are really telling: Yet, despite MySQL's progress in the market, we haven't found very much MySQL out there, says Microsoft's Rizzo. That's the best news I could have, retorts Mickos, MYSql AB. As long as Microsoft is in denial, we're fine. Could we add Uncle Larry to the list of those in denial?? MYSQL BREAKS INTO THE DATA CENTER MySQL is changing the nature of the database market with a powerful combination of low cost and high performance. http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/software/story/0,10801, 85900,00.html Click on the link or copy and paste it into your browser to view the story forwarded to you from Computerworld.com. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Orr, Steve INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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Nope, we would be using IMS and/or CICS DL/I. On the beginning of my career, when I was a junior programmer using completely outdated, badly overused language (COBOL, for short) an ancient IBM 3084 with only 32M RAM was able to service 800+ users, as long as there weren't too many TSO users. I'd hate to explain what CICS, MVS and TSO are (or were), but those things were way more optimal and way faster then any other database I've ever seen, and that was happenening in the year 1986. At the end of 1986, I was reassigned to check out that wonderful new box with OS that has held so much promiseVAX 3900 with VMS 4.6. Does anybody still remember the NULL.COM and NULL process? On 11/07/2003 01:44:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, but as you all know by now ( or should know ), having the best technology does not make you a market leader. MySQL will walk all over PostgreSQL, regardless of the superiority of the latter. Otherwise, we would all be using RDB, wouldn't we? Jared Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/07/2003 06:45 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!! Let's not forget PostgreSQL, arguably more enterprise-ready than MySQL, and now with clustering on Linux: http://www.open-mag.com/0182533982.shtml Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Can I say I told you so! now? ;) Goulet, Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2003 02:59 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Uncle Larry, wake up!!! The last statements in the article are really telling: Yet, despite MySQL's progress in the market, we haven't found very much MySQL out there, says Microsoft's Rizzo. That's the best news I could have, retorts Mickos, MYSql AB. As long as Microsoft is in denial, we're fine. Could we add Uncle Larry to the list of those in denial?? MYSQL BREAKS INTO THE DATA CENTER MySQL is changing the nature of the database market with a powerful combination of low cost and high performance. http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/software/story/0,10801,8590 0,00.html Click on the link or copy and paste it into your browser to view the story forwarded to you from Computerworld.com. Dick Goulet -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Wang Trading LLC and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
OH, ANCIENT History!! Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Nope, we would be using IMS and/or CICS DL/I. On the beginning of my career, when I was a junior programmer using completely outdated, badly overused language (COBOL, for short) an ancient IBM 3084 with only 32M RAM was able to service 800+ users, as long as there weren't too many TSO users. I'd hate to explain what CICS, MVS and TSO are (or were), but those things were way more optimal and way faster then any other database I've ever seen, and that was happenening in the year 1986. At the end of 1986, I was reassigned to check out that wonderful new box with OS that has held so much promiseVAX 3900 with VMS 4.6. Does anybody still remember the NULL.COM and NULL process? On 11/07/2003 01:44:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, but as you all know by now ( or should know ), having the best technology does not make you a market leader. MySQL will walk all over PostgreSQL, regardless of the superiority of the latter. Otherwise, we would all be using RDB, wouldn't we? Jared Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/07/2003 06:45 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!! Let's not forget PostgreSQL, arguably more enterprise-ready than MySQL, and now with clustering on Linux: http://www.open-mag.com/0182533982.shtml Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Can I say I told you so! now? ;) Goulet, Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2003 02:59 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Uncle Larry, wake up!!! The last statements in the article are really telling: Yet, despite MySQL's progress in the market, we haven't found very much MySQL out there, says Microsoft's Rizzo. That's the best news I could have, retorts Mickos, MYSql AB. As long as Microsoft is in denial, we're fine. Could we add Uncle Larry to the list of those in denial?? MYSQL BREAKS INTO THE DATA CENTER MySQL is changing the nature of the database market with a powerful combination of low cost and high performance. http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/software/story/0,10801,8590 0,00.html Click on the link or copy and paste it into your browser to view the story forwarded to you from Computerworld.com. Dick Goulet -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Wang Trading LLC and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing
RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
32MB? We'd have given our left insert body part here for 32MB. We had an 8MB 4341 that ran the whole school (remember those days, Al?). Try compiling a CICS program on that puppy during Registration! And then I suppose you never forgot to put in your un-callable STOP RUN, did you? Now, as for my beloved VMSsnif sob Even my Alpha at home is Linux now. Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Uncle Larry, wake up!!! Nope, we would be using IMS and/or CICS DL/I. On the beginning of my career, when I was a junior programmer using completely outdated, badly overused language (COBOL, for short) an ancient IBM 3084 with only 32M RAM was able to service 800+ users, as long as there weren't too many TSO users. I'd hate to explain what CICS, MVS and TSO are (or were), but those things were way more optimal and way faster then any other database I've ever seen, and that was happenening in the year 1986. At the end of 1986, I was reassigned to check out that wonderful new box with OS that has held so much promiseVAX 3900 with VMS 4.6. Does anybody still remember the NULL.COM and NULL process? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
Goulet, Dick scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: OH, ANCIENT History!! u... do i admit to getting a job hit last week because i know CICS?;-) it's still out there and still being used. -- Bill Shrek Thater ORACLE DBA I'm going to work my ticket if I can... -- Gilwell song [EMAIL PROTECTED] A hundred times every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labours of others. - Albert Einstein -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
That darn NULL process was always *hogging* the CPU. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/07/03 02:09PM Nope, we would be using IMS and/or CICS DL/I. On the beginning of my career, when I was a junior programmer using completely outdated, badly overused language (COBOL, for short) an ancient IBM 3084 with only 32M RAM was able to service 800+ users, as long as there weren't too many TSO users. I'd hate to explain what CICS, MVS and TSO are (or were), but those things were way more optimal and way faster then any other database I've ever seen, and that was happenening in the year 1986. At the end of 1986, I was reassigned to check out that wonderful new box with OS that has held so much promiseVAX 3900 with VMS 4.6. Does anybody still remember the NULL.COM and NULL process? On 11/07/2003 01:44:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, but as you all know by now ( or should know ), having the best technology does not make you a market leader. MySQL will walk all over PostgreSQL, regardless of the superiority of the latter. Otherwise, we would all be using RDB, wouldn't we? Jared Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/07/2003 06:45 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!! Let's not forget PostgreSQL, arguably more enterprise-ready than MySQL, and now with clustering on Linux: http://www.open-mag.com/0182533982.shtml Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Can I say I told you so! now? ;) **DISCLAIMER This e-mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail message. The contents do not represent the opinion of DE except to the extent that it relates to their official business. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jay Hostetter INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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While I agree that the older machines and 3GL technologies *ran* faster, it took 8 times longer to develop a simple report. a thousand lines of cobol code to produce a simple list. and wait for a change request. another week to figure out what the other programmer did, make a minor change, test it and return it to the user. all the while, they are scratching their head saying what the frig is taking so long?. No way. we are in a much better position now. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L OH, ANCIENT History!! Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Nope, we would be using IMS and/or CICS DL/I. On the beginning of my career, when I was a junior programmer using completely outdated, badly overused language (COBOL, for short) an ancient IBM 3084 with only 32M RAM was able to service 800+ users, as long as there weren't too many TSO users. I'd hate to explain what CICS, MVS and TSO are (or were), but those things were way more optimal and way faster then any other database I've ever seen, and that was happenening in the year 1986. At the end of 1986, I was reassigned to check out that wonderful new box with OS that has held so much promiseVAX 3900 with VMS 4.6. Does anybody still remember the NULL.COM and NULL process? On 11/07/2003 01:44:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, but as you all know by now ( or should know ), having the best technology does not make you a market leader. MySQL will walk all over PostgreSQL, regardless of the superiority of the latter. Otherwise, we would all be using RDB, wouldn't we? Jared Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/07/2003 06:45 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!! Let's not forget PostgreSQL, arguably more enterprise-ready than MySQL, and now with clustering on Linux: http://www.open-mag.com/0182533982.shtml Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Can I say I told you so! now? ;) Goulet, Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2003 02:59 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Uncle Larry, wake up!!! The last statements in the article are really telling: Yet, despite MySQL's progress in the market, we haven't found very much MySQL out there, says Microsoft's Rizzo. That's the best news I could have, retorts Mickos, MYSql AB. As long as Microsoft is in denial, we're fine. Could we add Uncle Larry to the list of those in denial?? MYSQL BREAKS INTO THE DATA CENTER MySQL is changing the nature of the database market with a powerful combination of low cost and high performance. http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/software/story/0,10801,8590 0,00.html Click on the link or copy and paste it into your browser to view the story forwarded to you from Computerworld.com. Dick Goulet -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Wang Trading LLC and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where
RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
it's a quiet little secret in consultant-land right now that the older technologies are in play. as the older-folks retire, there is a need for cobol-based support. especially in NY state agencies. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Goulet, Dick scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: OH, ANCIENT History!! u... do i admit to getting a job hit last week because i know CICS?;-) it's still out there and still being used. -- Bill Shrek Thater ORACLE DBA I'm going to work my ticket if I can... -- Gilwell song [EMAIL PROTECTED] A hundred times every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labours of others. - Albert Einstein -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!yes, but as you all know by now ( or should know ), having the
best technology does not make you a
market leader. MySQL will walk all
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Otherwise, we would all be using RDB,
wouldn't we? Jared
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Could we add Uncle Larry to the list of those in
denial??MYSQL BREAKS INTO THE DATA CENTERMySQL is changing the
nature of the database market with a powerfulcombination of low cost and
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RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
Mercadante, Thomas F scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: it's a quiet little secret in consultant-land right now that the older technologies are in play. as the older-folks retire, there is a need for cobol-based support. especially in NY state agencies. i know, Keane tried to sucker me into one of them.;-) i gracefully declined. ;-) i didn't care to return to my day in OGS.;-) -- Bill Shrek Thater ORACLE DBA I'm going to work my ticket if I can... -- Gilwell song [EMAIL PROTECTED] In order to form an immaculate member of a flock of sheep one must, above all, be a sheep. - Albert Einstein -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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This is true, Tom. Some technologies never die ... Personally, COBOL and CICS are not my favorite skillsets, *but* knock wood if it ever comes down to going back to coding in COBOL or being unemployed then --- Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's a quiet little secret in consultant-land right now that the older technologies are in play. as the older-folks retire, there is a need for cobol-based support. especially in NY state agencies. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Goulet, Dick scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: OH, ANCIENT History!! u... do i admit to getting a job hit last week because i know CICS?;-) it's still out there and still being used. -- Bill Shrek Thater ORACLE DBA I'm going to work my ticket if I can... -- Gilwell song [EMAIL PROTECTED] A hundred times every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labours of others. - Albert Einstein -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Melanie Caffrey INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
The last statements in the article are really telling: Yet, despite MySQL's progress in the market, we haven't found very much MySQL out there, says Microsoft's Rizzo. That's the best news I could have, retorts Mickos, MYSql AB. As long as Microsoft is in denial, we're fine. Could we add Uncle Larry to the list of those in denial?? MYSQL BREAKS INTO THE DATA CENTER MySQL is changing the nature of the database market with a powerful combination of low cost and high performance. http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/software/story/0,10801,85900,00.html Click on the link or copy and paste it into your browser to view the story forwarded to you from Computerworld.com. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Uncle Larry, wake up!!!
Can I say I told you so! now? ;) Goulet, Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/2003 02:59 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Uncle Larry, wake up!!! The last statements in the article are really telling: Yet, despite MySQL's progress in the market, we haven't found very much MySQL out there, says Microsoft's Rizzo. That's the best news I could have, retorts Mickos, MYSql AB. As long as Microsoft is in denial, we're fine. Could we add Uncle Larry to the list of those in denial?? MYSQL BREAKS INTO THE DATA CENTER MySQL is changing the nature of the database market with a powerful combination of low cost and high performance. http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/software/story/0,10801,85900,00.html Click on the link or copy and paste it into your browser to view the story forwarded to you from Computerworld.com. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
