Re: What books recommended for Data Modeling ?

2003-08-14 Thread Dilip Patel




Hi All, 
Need some suggestions/Input.

My application database is 8.1.7, NOARCHIVELOG, WIN200, total size 4 
GB, more of single user OLTP client-server application. Now the customer 
wants to give training on this application to hundred trainees at a time. 
For this he wants to install hundred database instances on same server 
machine, which *each* will be accessed simultaneously from 100 different 
client workstations. The reasons for installing all instances on 
same machine are - to avoid re-installing databases on 100 workstations 
after each round of training.- No user should see any other user's data. 
Please suggest if this approach is feasible or is it at all 
possible.Tested this with upto 5 instances, and it seems to work. The 
customer is willing to upgrade to any hardware needed for this setup. 
Thanks in advance for your time.Dilip.


What books recommended for Data Modeling ?

2003-08-14 Thread Salaheldin Aboali



hi all,

What books you recommend for Data 
Modeling ?
including 
how to map business requirements to 
relational and Data warehouse date model

Regards,Salaheldin 
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RE: What books recommended for Data Modeling ?

2003-08-14 Thread Mladen Gogala
Title: Message



Actually, I can 
recommend 4 books:

  Database Design Using Entity-Relationship Diagramsby Sikha 
  Bagui, Richard 
  Earp 
  2.  Case*Method: 
  Entity Relationship Modelling by Richard Barker (Hardcover) Avg. Customer Rating: 
   


  1.  Case*Method: 
  Function and Process Modelling by Richard Barker, Cliff Longman (Hardcover) Avg. 
  Customer Rating:  
  
  
   The 
  Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams (Mass Market 
  Paperback - November 1995) Avg. Customer Rating:  


You'll 
need the chapter about SEP field and the answer to the Question 
Of.
--Mladen GogalaOracle DBA 

  
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  hi all,
  
  What books you recommend for Data 
  Modeling ?
  including 
  how to map business requirements to 
  relational and Data warehouse date model
  
  Regards,Salaheldin 
  Aboali_Senior Software Developer 
  Management Information Systems_http://www.mis-kuwait.comPhone:+965.240.64.25+965.240.67.98+965.240.80.92Ext. 
  235Fax. +965.240.81.53Cell. 
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Re: What books recommended for Data Modeling ?

2003-08-14 Thread AK
100 instances woh .  If you are in 9i look at possibilities like context
or label security . or creating another schema .

-ak



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 I have not heard installing hundred database instances on same server.
 Maybe you should think creating one instance, and then hundred schemas in
 it.

 Guang

 On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Dilip Patel wrote:

  Hi All,
  Need some suggestions/Input.
 
  My application database is 8.1.7, NOARCHIVELOG, WIN200,
  total size 4 GB, more of single user OLTP client-server application.
 
  Now the customer wants to give training on this application to hundred
trainees
  at a time. For this he wants to install hundred database instances on
same
  server machine,  which *each* will be accessed simultaneously from 100
different
  client workstations.
 
  The reasons for installing all instances on same machine are
  - to avoid re-installing databases on 100 workstations after each round
of
  training.
  - No user should see any other user's data.
 
  Please suggest if this approach is feasible or is it at all possible.
Tested this with upto 5 instances, and
  it seems to work. The customer is willing to upgrade to any hardware
needed for
  this setup.
 
  Thanks in advance for your time.
 
  Dilip.
 

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Re: What books recommended for Data Modeling ?

2003-08-14 Thread Peter . McLarty
Perhaps a bit late but I have just been cleaning up the email

As an alternate suggestion perhaps running Oracle under VMware with GSX 
Server.
You can build a single instance of the training environment and then 
replicate the environment to build multiple instances, A nice feature is 
the ability to make each instance non persistent so that at the end of 
training you can simply undo all the work done in the training class
GSX allows you to run as many instances as your hardware can support and 
if they are willing to buy big hardware then a GSX license is probably 
going to be cheap

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I have not heard installing hundred database instances on same server.
Maybe you should think creating one instance, and then hundred schemas in
it.

Guang

On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Dilip Patel wrote:

 Hi All,
 Need some suggestions/Input.

 My application database is 8.1.7, NOARCHIVELOG, WIN200,
 total size 4 GB, more of single user OLTP client-server application.

 Now the customer wants to give training on this application to hundred 
trainees
 at a time. For this he wants to install hundred database instances on 
same
 server machine,  which *each* will be accessed simultaneously from 100 
different
 client workstations.

 The reasons for installing all instances on same machine are
 - to avoid re-installing databases on 100 workstations after each round 
of
 training.
 - No user should see any other user's data.

 Please suggest if this approach is feasible or is it at all possible. 
Tested this with upto 5 instances, and
 it seems to work. The customer is willing to upgrade to any hardware 
needed for
 this setup.

 Thanks in advance for your time.

 Dilip.


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RE: What books recommended for Data Modeling ?

2003-08-14 Thread David Wagoner



I took the advice 
of Dennis Williams and just read "The Data Modeling Handbook" (http://tinyurl.com/j5wr) and found it 
to be excellent for normalization of OLTP systems. The authors clearly 
have lots of experience and offer many "rules" and best practices. The 
book is expensive for it's size, but worth it.

There is a new 
book that is not yet published called "Effective Oracle by Design", by Tom 
Kyte. You can preorder it at www.bookpool.com. If it's anything like 
his other book then it will be most excellent.

Best regards, 
David B. Wagoner Database 
Administrator Arsenal Digital Solutions 
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  hi all,
  
  What books you recommend for Data 
  Modeling ?
  including 
  how to map business requirements to 
  relational and Data warehouse date model
  
  Regards,Salaheldin 
  Aboali_Senior Software Developer 
  Management Information Systems_http://www.mis-kuwait.comPhone:+965.240.64.25+965.240.67.98+965.240.80.92Ext. 
  235Fax. +965.240.81.53Cell. 
  +965.790.31.65_P.O. Box: 20126 Safat-13062 
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RE: What books recommended for Data Modeling ?

2003-08-06 Thread Robson, Peter
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The most important part of working with databases...
 
Have a look at 'Oracle Design', Dave Ensor  Ian Stevenson.
 
But if you have not already, I would urge you to attend a training course.
It is a complex, subtle area, and not easily learned from text books alone.
You also need to decide which methodology and standards you want to follow. 
 
peter
edinburgh


 
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including 
how to map business requirements to relational and Data warehouse date model
 
Regards,
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Re: What books recommended for Data Modeling ?

2003-08-06 Thread Guang Mei
I have not heard installing hundred database instances on same server.
Maybe you should think creating one instance, and then hundred schemas in
it.

Guang

On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Dilip Patel wrote:

 Hi All,
 Need some suggestions/Input.

 My application database is 8.1.7, NOARCHIVELOG, WIN200,
 total size 4 GB, more of single user OLTP client-server application.

 Now the customer wants to give training on this application to hundred trainees
 at a time. For this he wants to install hundred database instances on same
 server machine,  which *each* will be accessed simultaneously from 100 different
 client workstations.

 The reasons for installing all instances on same machine are
 - to avoid re-installing databases on 100 workstations after each round of
 training.
 - No user should see any other user's data.

 Please suggest if this approach is feasible or is it at all possible. Tested this 
 with upto 5 instances, and
 it seems to work. The customer is willing to upgrade to any hardware needed for
 this setup.

 Thanks in advance for your time.

 Dilip.


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