Re: best case scenarios for export/import

2002-12-20 Thread Steve Perry
a month ago on MS NT 4.0, I imported a 70 gig dump file in 9.5 hours. That
time includes creating the indexes.
I can't remember what the totall size used in the database...
config:
8.1.7.2.3
Win NT 4.0 Svc. Pack 6a

There's also a brand new EMC Symmetrix on the backend

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> Good day, all:
>
> I'm looking for real-life best-case scenarios for running import/export .
.
> . I've been playing with this for quite some time and would like to know
how
> "fast" I can really expect this to go, particularly for the import.
>
> I'd be interested to hear others' experiences - how fast have you been
able
> to import data?  what parameters have you used? etc. . . . it's both for
> informational purposes and as a sanity check.
>
> For example:  I'm now trying to import a dump file of appx 6.5 Gb - breaks
> down into 12G data and 4G indexes.
> using the following params on the first import, to just get the data (I
then
> rerun with the indexfile param to get the indexes):
> recordlength=65535
> buffer=1500 (15M)
> commit=y
> indexes=n
> constraints=n
> grants=n
>
> This will import in appx 36 hours using a single 3 Gb rollback segment
>
> What kind of experiences have you had?
>
> Thanks
> bill
>
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Re: best case scenarios for export/import

2002-12-20 Thread Bill Buchan

Hi,

That doesn't sound particularly healthy to me.  Depends what you're running 
on I guess.  We have a nightly batch job which does an import on 8.1.7, 
rather weedy 933MHz Intel, 50Mb SGA, 4 x SCSI disk Linux box.   The dump 
file is 4.0Gb which turns out to be about 6Gb data, 1Gb indexes.  It takes 
3 hours, including all the index creation, and I've not even bothered 
trying to tune it *at all* (ie. default import parameters) because the 
window available for it is about 14 hours.

One thing to take care over with indexes=n is that this is does not disable 
the creation of constraint indexes (ie. Primary Key, Unique).  You may need 
to adjust the sort_area_size for these (however, I've not bothered as I 
still have 11 hours of spare window).  When I do need to do this, I bounce 
the instance and set the sort_area_size instance wide - maybe somebody can 
suggest a better way of doing it just for the import?

I guess your next step is to monitor the import itself and look at the wait 
events to see if something is obviously amiss.

- Bill.

At 06:04 20/12/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Good day, all:

I'm looking for real-life best-case scenarios for running import/export . .
. I've been playing with this for quite some time and would like to know how
"fast" I can really expect this to go, particularly for the import.

I'd be interested to hear others' experiences - how fast have you been able
to import data?  what parameters have you used? etc. . . . it's both for
informational purposes and as a sanity check.

For example:  I'm now trying to import a dump file of appx 6.5 Gb - breaks
down into 12G data and 4G indexes.
using the following params on the first import, to just get the data (I then
rerun with the indexfile param to get the indexes):
recordlength=65535
buffer=1500 (15M)
commit=y
indexes=n
constraints=n
grants=n

This will import in appx 36 hours using a single 3 Gb rollback segment

What kind of experiences have you had?

Thanks
bill

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RE: best case scenarios for export/import

2002-12-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Bill - For other import tuning ideas, see
http://www.orafaq.com/faqiexp.htm

Dennis Williams
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Good day, all:

I'm looking for real-life best-case scenarios for running import/export . .
. I've been playing with this for quite some time and would like to know how
"fast" I can really expect this to go, particularly for the import.

I'd be interested to hear others' experiences - how fast have you been able
to import data?  what parameters have you used? etc. . . . it's both for
informational purposes and as a sanity check.

For example:  I'm now trying to import a dump file of appx 6.5 Gb - breaks
down into 12G data and 4G indexes.
using the following params on the first import, to just get the data (I then
rerun with the indexfile param to get the indexes):  
recordlength=65535
buffer=1500 (15M)
commit=y
indexes=n
constraints=n
grants=n

This will import in appx 36 hours using a single 3 Gb rollback segment

What kind of experiences have you had?  

Thanks
bill

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Re: best case scenarios for export/import

2002-12-20 Thread Rick_Cale

First of all you have to have an estimate on how long the import should
take.  Oracle rule-of-thumb formula for that is
   
  
 import elapsed time = 
export
 elapsed time X 4  
  
   
  
   
  


At least you have a targeted time to shoot for then try to improve if
necessary.

Rick



   
 
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Good day, all:

I'm looking for real-life best-case scenarios for running import/export . .
. I've been playing with this for quite some time and would like to know
how
"fast" I can really expect this to go, particularly for the import.

I'd be interested to hear others' experiences - how fast have you been able
to import data?  what parameters have you used? etc. . . . it's both for
informational purposes and as a sanity check.

For example:  I'm now trying to import a dump file of appx 6.5 Gb - breaks
down into 12G data and 4G indexes.
using the following params on the first import, to just get the data (I
then
rerun with the indexfile param to get the indexes):
recordlength=65535
buffer=1500 (15M)
commit=y
indexes=n
constraints=n
grants=n

This will import in appx 36 hours using a single 3 Gb rollback segment

What kind of experiences have you had?

Thanks
bill

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RE: best case scenarios for export/import

2002-12-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: best case scenarios for export/import





2 x (IBM p690, 16CPU, 16GB Ram, Oracle 9201), Export file from 8161 34GB. Import is 12 parallel streams (6 on each machines) with no constraints, custom parfiles (to import certain schema per stream only), buffer (either 8M and 16M), 12GB Undo on each instance, all tablespaces LMT

When testing the migration plan, I used to  (everything below was scripted)
1. Drop the database
2. Create the database total datafiles are about 140GB.
3. precreate all objects with no data, no indexes
4. Run all imports
5. Validate everything is okay.
6. Trash everything and start all over again.


The last week (Mon-Fri) I actually tested the whole process at-least twice in a day proofing the scripts, always looking for UNKNOWN-PROBLEMS and always scanning for KNOWN PROBLEMS.

Total time 1 Hour and 30 minutes for the import using pre-created objects (no indexes). 


This is all from memory we did migrate on Oct 12, we had a good sized window. AIX created a problem with shared disk when we were in middle of import. So we trashed all we did and restarted. The databases were up and running, all verified, completely analyzed, necessary indexes (intermedia etc) rebuilt and running Active/Active on RAC one minute before user testing was supposed to start.

Raj
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Subject: best case scenarios for export/import



Good day, all:


I'm looking for real-life best-case scenarios for running import/export . .
. I've been playing with this for quite some time and would like to know how
"fast" I can really expect this to go, particularly for the import.


I'd be interested to hear others' experiences - how fast have you been able
to import data?  what parameters have you used? etc. . . . it's both for
informational purposes and as a sanity check.


For example:  I'm now trying to import a dump file of appx 6.5 Gb - breaks
down into 12G data and 4G indexes.
using the following params on the first import, to just get the data (I then
rerun with the indexfile param to get the indexes):  
recordlength=65535
buffer=1500 (15M)
commit=y
indexes=n
constraints=n
grants=n


This will import in appx 36 hours using a single 3 Gb rollback segment


What kind of experiences have you had?  


Thanks
bill



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best case scenarios for export/import

2002-12-20 Thread Magaliff, Bill
Good day, all:

I'm looking for real-life best-case scenarios for running import/export . .
. I've been playing with this for quite some time and would like to know how
"fast" I can really expect this to go, particularly for the import.

I'd be interested to hear others' experiences - how fast have you been able
to import data?  what parameters have you used? etc. . . . it's both for
informational purposes and as a sanity check.

For example:  I'm now trying to import a dump file of appx 6.5 Gb - breaks
down into 12G data and 4G indexes.
using the following params on the first import, to just get the data (I then
rerun with the indexfile param to get the indexes):  
recordlength=65535
buffer=1500 (15M)
commit=y
indexes=n
constraints=n
grants=n

This will import in appx 36 hours using a single 3 Gb rollback segment

What kind of experiences have you had?  

Thanks
bill

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