Re: iAS installation update
On Wednesday 06 June 2001 22:10, Seley, Linda wrote: (Course I don't even like the new installer, I want the old one back! huge whine!) Hey, we feel your pain. Gimme the old (reliable) installer. I'm tired of 'Oh! I don't like the version number I see on your java and I'm going to die now. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: iAS installation update
Linda, Thanks for the info, misery loves company. I've tried using the old character based installer for discoverer per Note 131662.1, it doesn't work either(cant find some .lib files). I have a TAR open on that and a Portal issue. Hopefully I'll learn some tricks that I can share. ...JIM... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/7/01 12:10:21 AM Jim - We ran into this on Solaris. If you don't want discoverer, comment out the last (4 I think) lines in $9iAS_HOME/Apache/Jserv/etc/zone.properties and ignore the errors. If you do want discoverer check out Note 131662.1. It says there that you need to run the installer from the 'Solaris server graphics console and OpenWindows' (for 3i only) or install it manually using the character mode installer. We didn't install it, our 9iAS had 3i, we're holding out for 4i. Besides, I have approx. 10 open TARs around 9iAS/reports server and I don't think I could handle another product! Patrice - I'm with you. Sure wish they'd get this all working as a whole instead of a bunch of pieces thrown together. Discoverer and Developer still use the orainst but 9iAS uses the new installer and attempts to call the old one? Give me a break! (Course I don't even like the new installer, I want the old one back! huge whine!) Linda -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I'm also having difficulty installing 9iAS EE, everything installs except discoverer, that has failed every time. I get the same thing on V1.0.2.1 and 1.0.2.2... I opened a TAR on this, they said there were problems using CDE for the install and to try again using Openwin. I did, the discoverer portion of the install still failed. I have also used the same and a different $ORACLE_HOME for the 8.0.6 stuff. I'm using an existing 8.1.7 instance (on the same box) as my Origin database. What environment variables are you setting prior to the install? The Doc's aren't very clear on this. ...JIM... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/5/01 11:07:18 AM Patrice, I've installed 9iAS successfully, what I've done is just run the installer from the CD and on a new machine (virgin OS install) I selected all the defaults, and guess what everything work. In turn 9iAS created an ORACLE home in which there is a 806 and an iSuites directory, apparently when they say the 806 home what they refer to is that directory, the 806 directory seems to be where the tool set (Forms/ Reports) are housed and the iSuites where the Apache server and that stuff is. On a machine with a whole bunch of other ORACLE products, such as DEV 1.6 (FORMS 4.5 / Reports2.5), Designer 2000, Developer 6i and Personal Oracle 8.1.7, I've chosen a different home for each product and everything works fine. Of course a bunch of stuff is duplicated, but who cares Hard drive is cheap, the main thing is that everything works as advertised. When I tried installing everything on default Oracle homes nothing worked and it was a nightmare. My experience from the installs. Good luck Tavo Boivin, Patrice J wrote: FYI, I logged a TAR with Oracle last week or so because one Metalink tech had said in passing that Forms and Reports had to go into its own, separate oracle_home. This follows from a previous TAR I had logged with them, simply asking which products work best together. I had read the installation manual for iAS and had earlier found this: Note: Be sure not to install Oracle9i Application Server in an Oracle_home containing other Oracle products, including the database. Such an installation could overwrite shared components, causing the products to malfunction. (on p. 3-5, 4-5, 5-5). Now, in Oracle Reports Developer Getting Started - Release 6i for Windows, it says: Reports Developer 6i must reside in the default oracle_home. Reports Developer 6i and the Oracle8 or Oracle8i server must reside in separate oracle_Homes, although they can reside on the same physical machine. Similarly, in a web application deployment, Report Server and Oracle Application Server must reside in separate oracle_homes, although they can reside on the same physical machine. (p.1-16) Forms and Reports 6i happen to require an Oracle 8.0.6. oracle_home. This posed a dilemma: how can I install iAS in the default home, when many of its components require access to an origin database. I do not plan to use iAS with 8.0.6., I plan to use it with 8.1.7.. I thought I would have to install Forms and Reports 6i first, remove the tidbits that the Oracle Universal Installer installs by default, then install 8.1.7., and then install the iSuite components. Of course by the end of this tortuous process there were errors. I had a different Metalink technician this time, who told me to ignore what the first technician had said, and to just install iAS based on the installation manual, never mind the other worries that I had. So, I am ignoring the Oracle Reports Developer Getting Started manual, and I
RE: iAS installation update
Jim - We ran into this on Solaris. If you don't want discoverer, comment out the last (4 I think) lines in $9iAS_HOME/Apache/Jserv/etc/zone.properties and ignore the errors. If you do want discoverer check out Note 131662.1. It says there that you need to run the installer from the 'Solaris server graphics console and OpenWindows' (for 3i only) or install it manually using the character mode installer. We didn't install it, our 9iAS had 3i, we're holding out for 4i. Besides, I have approx. 10 open TARs around 9iAS/reports server and I don't think I could handle another product! Patrice - I'm with you. Sure wish they'd get this all working as a whole instead of a bunch of pieces thrown together. Discoverer and Developer still use the orainst but 9iAS uses the new installer and attempts to call the old one? Give me a break! (Course I don't even like the new installer, I want the old one back! huge whine!) Linda -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I'm also having difficulty installing 9iAS EE, everything installs except discoverer, that has failed every time. I get the same thing on V1.0.2.1 and 1.0.2.2... I opened a TAR on this, they said there were problems using CDE for the install and to try again using Openwin. I did, the discoverer portion of the install still failed. I have also used the same and a different $ORACLE_HOME for the 8.0.6 stuff. I'm using an existing 8.1.7 instance (on the same box) as my Origin database. What environment variables are you setting prior to the install? The Doc's aren't very clear on this. ...JIM... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/5/01 11:07:18 AM Patrice, I've installed 9iAS successfully, what I've done is just run the installer from the CD and on a new machine (virgin OS install) I selected all the defaults, and guess what everything work. In turn 9iAS created an ORACLE home in which there is a 806 and an iSuites directory, apparently when they say the 806 home what they refer to is that directory, the 806 directory seems to be where the tool set (Forms/ Reports) are housed and the iSuites where the Apache server and that stuff is. On a machine with a whole bunch of other ORACLE products, such as DEV 1.6 (FORMS 4.5 / Reports2.5), Designer 2000, Developer 6i and Personal Oracle 8.1.7, I've chosen a different home for each product and everything works fine. Of course a bunch of stuff is duplicated, but who cares Hard drive is cheap, the main thing is that everything works as advertised. When I tried installing everything on default Oracle homes nothing worked and it was a nightmare. My experience from the installs. Good luck Tavo Boivin, Patrice J wrote: FYI, I logged a TAR with Oracle last week or so because one Metalink tech had said in passing that Forms and Reports had to go into its own, separate oracle_home. This follows from a previous TAR I had logged with them, simply asking which products work best together. I had read the installation manual for iAS and had earlier found this: Note: Be sure not to install Oracle9i Application Server in an Oracle_home containing other Oracle products, including the database. Such an installation could overwrite shared components, causing the products to malfunction. (on p. 3-5, 4-5, 5-5). Now, in Oracle Reports Developer Getting Started - Release 6i for Windows, it says: Reports Developer 6i must reside in the default oracle_home. Reports Developer 6i and the Oracle8 or Oracle8i server must reside in separate oracle_Homes, although they can reside on the same physical machine. Similarly, in a web application deployment, Report Server and Oracle Application Server must reside in separate oracle_homes, although they can reside on the same physical machine. (p.1-16) Forms and Reports 6i happen to require an Oracle 8.0.6. oracle_home. This posed a dilemma: how can I install iAS in the default home, when many of its components require access to an origin database. I do not plan to use iAS with 8.0.6., I plan to use it with 8.1.7.. I thought I would have to install Forms and Reports 6i first, remove the tidbits that the Oracle Universal Installer installs by default, then install 8.1.7., and then install the iSuite components. Of course by the end of this tortuous process there were errors. I had a different Metalink technician this time, who told me to ignore what the first technician had said, and to just install iAS based on the installation manual, never mind the other worries that I had. So, I am ignoring the Oracle Reports Developer Getting Started manual, and I am installing based on the iAS installation manual. Hopefully that will work. /begin rant I still wish the Oracle techs could have told me which versions of the various products are concurrent, they just keep insisting that all their products are certified to work together. All I wanted to know was which oracle_home type do
iAS installation update
FYI, I logged a TAR with Oracle last week or so because one Metalink tech had said in passing that Forms and Reports had to go into its own, separate oracle_home. This follows from a previous TAR I had logged with them, simply asking which products work best together. I had read the installation manual for iAS and had earlier found this: Note: Be sure not to install Oracle9i Application Server in an Oracle_home containing other Oracle products, including the database. Such an installation could overwrite shared components, causing the products to malfunction. (on p. 3-5, 4-5, 5-5). Now, in Oracle Reports Developer Getting Started - Release 6i for Windows, it says: Reports Developer 6i must reside in the default oracle_home. Reports Developer 6i and the Oracle8 or Oracle8i server must reside in separate oracle_Homes, although they can reside on the same physical machine. Similarly, in a web application deployment, Report Server and Oracle Application Server must reside in separate oracle_homes, although they can reside on the same physical machine. (p.1-16) Forms and Reports 6i happen to require an Oracle 8.0.6. oracle_home. This posed a dilemma: how can I install iAS in the default home, when many of its components require access to an origin database. I do not plan to use iAS with 8.0.6., I plan to use it with 8.1.7.. I thought I would have to install Forms and Reports 6i first, remove the tidbits that the Oracle Universal Installer installs by default, then install 8.1.7., and then install the iSuite components. Of course by the end of this tortuous process there were errors. I had a different Metalink technician this time, who told me to ignore what the first technician had said, and to just install iAS based on the installation manual, never mind the other worries that I had. So, I am ignoring the Oracle Reports Developer Getting Started manual, and I am installing based on the iAS installation manual. Hopefully that will work. /begin rant I still wish the Oracle techs could have told me which versions of the various products are concurrent, they just keep insisting that all their products are certified to work together. All I wanted to know was which oracle_home type do the various products use? Forms and Reports 6i requires an 8.0.6. home, Developer6 used an 8.0.5 home, etc. the Metalink techs do not appear to have a list, they didn't understand my question. When I logged a TAR on this I received three e-mails telling me that my TAR had been passed to different people, in the end the last tech told me that products sometimes are released together, but that it is not all that important, because everything is certified to work together. I can't shake the feeling that iAS is a bundle of things that were just slapped together. Seeing the old installer pop up during the installation doesn't help remove that impression. Hopefully when the next release comes out it will install in something other than an (old) Oracle 8.0.6. oracle_home. Since it's called Oracle9i iAS, maybe the Forms and Reports Servers will go into a 9i oracle_home (?). /end rant (this is my impression, not my employer's etc. etc.) Sorry if this comes across as a little harsh. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: iAS installation update
Patrice, I've installed 9iAS successfully, what I've done is just run the installer from the CD and on a new machine (virgin OS install) I selected all the defaults, and guess what everything work. In turn 9iAS created an ORACLE home in which there is a 806 and an iSuites directory, apparently when they say the 806 home what they refer to is that directory, the 806 directory seems to be where the tool set (Forms/ Reports) are housed and the iSuites where the Apache server and that stuff is. On a machine with a whole bunch of other ORACLE products, such as DEV 1.6 (FORMS 4.5 / Reports2.5), Designer 2000, Developer 6i and Personal Oracle 8.1.7, I've chosen a different home for each product and everything works fine. Of course a bunch of stuff is duplicated, but who cares Hard drive is cheap, the main thing is that everything works as advertised. When I tried installing everything on default Oracle homes nothing worked and it was a nightmare. My experience from the installs. Good luck Tavo Boivin, Patrice J wrote: FYI, I logged a TAR with Oracle last week or so because one Metalink tech had said in passing that Forms and Reports had to go into its own, separate oracle_home. This follows from a previous TAR I had logged with them, simply asking which products work best together. I had read the installation manual for iAS and had earlier found this: Note: Be sure not to install Oracle9i Application Server in an Oracle_home containing other Oracle products, including the database. Such an installation could overwrite shared components, causing the products to malfunction. (on p. 3-5, 4-5, 5-5). Now, in Oracle Reports Developer Getting Started - Release 6i for Windows, it says: Reports Developer 6i must reside in the default oracle_home. Reports Developer 6i and the Oracle8 or Oracle8i server must reside in separate oracle_Homes, although they can reside on the same physical machine. Similarly, in a web application deployment, Report Server and Oracle Application Server must reside in separate oracle_homes, although they can reside on the same physical machine. (p.1-16) Forms and Reports 6i happen to require an Oracle 8.0.6. oracle_home. This posed a dilemma: how can I install iAS in the default home, when many of its components require access to an origin database. I do not plan to use iAS with 8.0.6., I plan to use it with 8.1.7.. I thought I would have to install Forms and Reports 6i first, remove the tidbits that the Oracle Universal Installer installs by default, then install 8.1.7., and then install the iSuite components. Of course by the end of this tortuous process there were errors. I had a different Metalink technician this time, who told me to ignore what the first technician had said, and to just install iAS based on the installation manual, never mind the other worries that I had. So, I am ignoring the Oracle Reports Developer Getting Started manual, and I am installing based on the iAS installation manual. Hopefully that will work. /begin rant I still wish the Oracle techs could have told me which versions of the various products are concurrent, they just keep insisting that all their products are certified to work together. All I wanted to know was which oracle_home type do the various products use? Forms and Reports 6i requires an 8.0.6. home, Developer6 used an 8.0.5 home, etc. the Metalink techs do not appear to have a list, they didn't understand my question. When I logged a TAR on this I received three e-mails telling me that my TAR had been passed to different people, in the end the last tech told me that products sometimes are released together, but that it is not all that important, because everything is certified to work together. I can't shake the feeling that iAS is a bundle of things that were just slapped together. Seeing the old installer pop up during the installation doesn't help remove that impression. Hopefully when the next release comes out it will install in something other than an (old) Oracle 8.0.6. oracle_home. Since it's called Oracle9i iAS, maybe the Forms and Reports Servers will go into a 9i oracle_home (?). /end rant (this is my impression, not my employer's etc. etc.) Sorry if this comes across as a little harsh. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
Re: iAS installation update
I'm also having difficulty installing 9iAS EE, everything installs except discoverer, that has failed every time. I get the same thing on V1.0.2.1 and 1.0.2.2... I opened a TAR on this, they said there were problems using CDE for the install and to try again using Openwin. I did, the discoverer portion of the install still failed. I have also used the same and a different $ORACLE_HOME for the 8.0.6 stuff. I'm using an existing 8.1.7 instance (on the same box) as my Origin database. What environment variables are you setting prior to the install? The Doc's aren't very clear on this. ...JIM... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/5/01 11:07:18 AM Patrice, I've installed 9iAS successfully, what I've done is just run the installer from the CD and on a new machine (virgin OS install) I selected all the defaults, and guess what everything work. In turn 9iAS created an ORACLE home in which there is a 806 and an iSuites directory, apparently when they say the 806 home what they refer to is that directory, the 806 directory seems to be where the tool set (Forms/ Reports) are housed and the iSuites where the Apache server and that stuff is. On a machine with a whole bunch of other ORACLE products, such as DEV 1.6 (FORMS 4.5 / Reports2.5), Designer 2000, Developer 6i and Personal Oracle 8.1.7, I've chosen a different home for each product and everything works fine. Of course a bunch of stuff is duplicated, but who cares Hard drive is cheap, the main thing is that everything works as advertised. When I tried installing everything on default Oracle homes nothing worked and it was a nightmare. My experience from the installs. Good luck Tavo Boivin, Patrice J wrote: FYI, I logged a TAR with Oracle last week or so because one Metalink tech had said in passing that Forms and Reports had to go into its own, separate oracle_home. This follows from a previous TAR I had logged with them, simply asking which products work best together. I had read the installation manual for iAS and had earlier found this: Note: Be sure not to install Oracle9i Application Server in an Oracle_home containing other Oracle products, including the database. Such an installation could overwrite shared components, causing the products to malfunction. (on p. 3-5, 4-5, 5-5). Now, in Oracle Reports Developer Getting Started - Release 6i for Windows, it says: Reports Developer 6i must reside in the default oracle_home. Reports Developer 6i and the Oracle8 or Oracle8i server must reside in separate oracle_Homes, although they can reside on the same physical machine. Similarly, in a web application deployment, Report Server and Oracle Application Server must reside in separate oracle_homes, although they can reside on the same physical machine. (p.1-16) Forms and Reports 6i happen to require an Oracle 8.0.6. oracle_home. This posed a dilemma: how can I install iAS in the default home, when many of its components require access to an origin database. I do not plan to use iAS with 8.0.6., I plan to use it with 8.1.7.. I thought I would have to install Forms and Reports 6i first, remove the tidbits that the Oracle Universal Installer installs by default, then install 8.1.7., and then install the iSuite components. Of course by the end of this tortuous process there were errors. I had a different Metalink technician this time, who told me to ignore what the first technician had said, and to just install iAS based on the installation manual, never mind the other worries that I had. So, I am ignoring the Oracle Reports Developer Getting Started manual, and I am installing based on the iAS installation manual. Hopefully that will work. /begin rant I still wish the Oracle techs could have told me which versions of the various products are concurrent, they just keep insisting that all their products are certified to work together. All I wanted to know was which oracle_home type do the various products use? Forms and Reports 6i requires an 8.0.6. home, Developer6 used an 8.0.5 home, etc. the Metalink techs do not appear to have a list, they didn't understand my question. When I logged a TAR on this I received three e-mails telling me that my TAR had been passed to different people, in the end the last tech told me that products sometimes are released together, but that it is not all that important, because everything is certified to work together. I can't shake the feeling that iAS is a bundle of things that were just slapped together. Seeing the old installer pop up during the installation doesn't help remove that impression. Hopefully when the next release comes out it will install in something other than an (old) Oracle 8.0.6. oracle_home. Since it's called Oracle9i iAS, maybe the Forms and Reports Servers will go into a 9i oracle_home (?). /end rant (this is my impression, not my employer's etc. etc.) Sorry if this comes across as a little harsh. Regards, Patrice Boivin
