RE: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.

2002-12-16 Thread Mandar A. Ghosalkar
Title: RE: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.



Chris,

if its 
a plsql job then tcl wrapper script in oem would be same. but your runtime 
parameters could be diff. As others have mentioned, u could just run 
package.main, just verify that the package has been configured with the right 
runtime parameters in OWB.

btw 
when use the method (forgot that name for passing parameters ) "=" u need 
now worry about parameter position.

-Mandar

  -Original Message-From: Chris Stephens 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 
  8:38 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.
  wow. thank you. i will be testing this in the 
  afternoon but before i do, i have one more question. we have ~50 jobs we 
  would like to cron instead of submit to oem. so my question is, are these tcl 
  arguments in the same order and of the same # for every job? or is there 
  some way to determine the order and position they should be when executing the 
  package?
  thank you so much for your help. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Mandar A. Ghosalkar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 8:19 PM To: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: 
  warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system. 
  Chris,  the parameters 3,2,50,1000,50,wb,10 are used inside the oem-owb job tcl 
  script as set p_oper_mode [lindex $parList [incr 
  parList_i]] set p_audit_level [lindex $parList [incr 
  parList_i]] set p_num_errors [lindex $parList [incr 
  parList_i]] set p_commit_frequency [lindex $parList 
  [incr parList_i]] set p_bulk_size [lindex $parList 
  [incr parList_i]] set p_purge_group [lindex $parList 
  [incr parList_i]] set p_percentage [lindex $parList 
  [incr parList_i]] 
  and then the package.main is called  try the following. i would recommend 
  testing this on the test server before putting it on prod :-)  sqlexec 
  C40_ADMIN_CUSTOMER_MAP.Main(p_operating_mode = 3, p_audit_level = 2, 
  p_max_errors = 50, p_commit_frequency = 1000,
   p_bulk_size = 50, p_job = 
  'wb');  -Mandar 
  
  Original Message- Sent: 
  Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:09 PM To: Multiple 
  recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  here is the tcl that was generated:  "-r" "3,2,50,1000,50,wb,10" "-c" 
  "WE8MSWIN1252"  the 
  package that is generated is quite long. i have 
  absolutely no idea how to read the tcl. if you 
  could point me somewhere, i could try and figure it out myself. 
  any help is appreciated.  attached is the package code if you are 
  willing to take a look...  (for some reason my computer associates .pls extensions with real 
  audio)   
   
  -Original Message- Sent: 
  Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:11 PM To: Multiple 
  recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Chris,  All the owb etl jobs are packages and if you have configured it right, 
  then you could the execute the package_name.main procedure to run the etl 
  process. your best best would be to read the tcl script and the associated 
  parameters for the owb-oem job.
   You could paste the tcl and the 
  parameters here to help u more.  
  -Mandar 
  -Original Message- Sent: 
  Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:31 AM To: Multiple 
  recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  ok, here's the situation: we are loading our warehouse 
  via etl processes generated by warehouse builder (owb). we went live 
  with this a little over a week ago. up to this point we have been 
  running the jobs manually through owb. for obvious reasons we need to be 
  able to schedule these jobs. the only way (that i know of) to schedule 
  the owb jobs is to deploy them to entreprise manager. the problem is 
  that our oem is VERY unreliable and seems to be related to bugs. we are 
  running oem v9.2 and oracle ee v9.2. when jobs are scheduled through 
  oem, they run sometimes and hang others. this is unexceptable. 
  
  so my question is: does anyone know of a way to trap the 
  commands that oem sends to the database? the obvious solution would be 
  to just cron execution of the packages owb generates inside the 
  database. this doesn't work though because owb generates funky code that 
  takes parameters, whose values i don't know, for logging purposes. 
  
  hopefully i explained the situation well enough. 
  any ideas??i'd like to get rid of the dependance on oem. 
  
  oem sucks 
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RE: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.

2002-12-13 Thread Chris Stephens
Title: RE: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.





wow. thank you. i will be testing this in the afternoon but before i do, i have one more question. we have ~50 jobs we would like to cron instead of submit to oem. so my question is, are these tcl arguments in the same order and of the same # for every job? or is there some way to determine the order and position they should be when executing the package?

thank you so much for your help.


-Original Message-
From: Mandar A. Ghosalkar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 8:19 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.



Chris,

the parameters 3,2,50,1000,50,wb,10 are used inside the oem-owb job tcl script as
set p_oper_mode [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
set p_audit_level [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
set p_num_errors [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
set p_commit_frequency [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
set p_bulk_size [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
set p_purge_group [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
set p_percentage [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]


and then the package.main is called

try the following. i would recommend testing this on the test server before putting it on prod :-)

sqlexec C40_ADMIN_CUSTOMER_MAP.Main(p_operating_mode = 3, p_audit_level = 2, p_max_errors = 50, p_commit_frequency = 1000,

 p_bulk_size = 50, p_job = 'wb');

-Mandar


Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:09 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



here is the tcl that was generated:

-r 3,2,50,1000,50,wb,10 -c WE8MSWIN1252

the package that is generated is quite long.
i have absolutely no idea how to read the tcl. 
if you could point me somewhere, i could try and figure it out myself.
any help is appreciated.

attached is the package code if you are willing to take a look...

(for some reason my computer associates .pls extensions with real audio)





-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:11 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Chris,

All the owb etl jobs are packages and if you have configured it right, then you could the execute the package_name.main procedure to run the etl process. your best best would be to read the tcl script and the associated parameters for the owb-oem job.


You could paste the tcl and the parameters here to help u more.

-Mandar


-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:31 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L





ok, here's the situation: we are loading our warehouse via etl processes generated by warehouse builder (owb). we went live with this a little over a week ago. up to this point we have been running the jobs manually through owb. for obvious reasons we need to be able to schedule these jobs. the only way (that i know of) to schedule the owb jobs is to deploy them to entreprise manager. the problem is that our oem is VERY unreliable and seems to be related to bugs. we are running oem v9.2 and oracle ee v9.2. when jobs are scheduled through oem, they run sometimes and hang others. this is unexceptable. 

so my question is: does anyone know of a way to trap the commands that oem sends to the database? the obvious solution would be to just cron execution of the packages owb generates inside the database. this doesn't work though because owb generates funky code that takes parameters, whose values i don't know, for logging purposes. 

hopefully i explained the situation well enough. 


any ideas??i'd like to get rid of the dependance on oem. 


oem sucks 



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Re: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.

2002-12-13 Thread Scott Canaan
I run the jobs via cron, without any parameters and we don't have any problems.  If 
you look at the parameter list, you'll find that most (if not all) have default values 
anyway.  I have been running them via cron for months without any issues, other than 
the fact that we can't multitask.

Mandar A. Ghosalkar wrote:

 Chris,

 the parameters 3,2,50,1000,50,wb,10 are used inside the oem-owb job tcl script as
 set p_oper_mode [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
 set p_audit_level [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
 set p_num_errors [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
 set p_commit_frequency [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
 set p_bulk_size [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
 set p_purge_group [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
 set p_percentage [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]

 and then the package.main is called

 try the following. i would recommend testing this on the test server before putting 
it on prod :-)

 sqlexec C40_ADMIN_CUSTOMER_MAP.Main(p_operating_mode = 3, p_audit_level = 2, 
p_max_errors = 50, p_commit_frequency = 1000,
  p_bulk_size = 50, p_job = 'wb');

 -Mandar

 Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:09 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

 here is the tcl that was generated:

 -r 3,2,50,1000,50,wb,10 -c WE8MSWIN1252

 the package that is generated is quite long.
 i have absolutely no idea how to read the tcl.
 if you could point me somewhere, i could try and figure it out myself.
 any help is appreciated.

 attached is the package code if you are willing to take a look...

 (for some reason my computer associates .pls extensions with real audio)




 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:11 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

 Chris,

 All the owb etl jobs are packages and if you have configured it right, then you 
could the execute the package_name.main procedure to run the etl process. your best 
best would be to read the tcl script and the associated parameters for the owb-oem 
job.

 You could paste the tcl and the parameters here to help u more.

 -Mandar

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:31 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

 ok, here's the situation:  we are loading our warehouse via etl processes generated 
by warehouse builder (owb).  we went live with this a little over a week ago.  up to 
this point we have been running the jobs manually through owb.  for obvious reasons 
we need to be able to schedule these jobs.  the only way (that i know of) to schedule 
the owb jobs is to deploy them to entreprise manager.  the problem is that our oem is 
VERY unreliable and seems to be related to bugs.  we are running oem v9.2 and oracle 
ee v9.2.  when jobs are scheduled through oem, they run sometimes and hang others.  
this is unexceptable.

 so my question is:  does anyone know of a way to trap the commands that oem sends to 
the database?  the obvious solution would be to just cron execution of the packages 
owb generates inside the database.  this doesn't work though because owb generates 
funky code that takes parameters, whose values i don't know, for logging purposes.

 hopefully i explained the situation well enough.

 any ideas??i'd like to get rid of the dependance on oem.

 oem sucks

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RE: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.

2002-12-13 Thread Mandar A. Ghosalkar
true they hv default values, but i think the Chris's runtime parameters are diff than 
his default values. ill try to give another look at it come monday.


 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Canaan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:39 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.
 
 
 I run the jobs via cron, without any parameters and we don't 
 have any problems.  If you look at the parameter list, you'll 
 find that most (if not all) have default values anyway.  I 
 have been running them via cron for months without any 
 issues, other than the fact that we can't multitask.
 
 Mandar A. Ghosalkar wrote:
 
  Chris,
 
  the parameters 3,2,50,1000,50,wb,10 are used inside the 
 oem-owb job tcl script as
  set p_oper_mode [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
  set p_audit_level [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
  set p_num_errors [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
  set p_commit_frequency [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
  set p_bulk_size [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
  set p_purge_group [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
  set p_percentage [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
 
  and then the package.main is called
 
  try the following. i would recommend testing this on the 
 test server before putting it on prod :-)
 
  sqlexec C40_ADMIN_CUSTOMER_MAP.Main(p_operating_mode = 3, 
 p_audit_level = 2, p_max_errors = 50, p_commit_frequency = 1000,
   p_bulk_size = 50, p_job = 'wb');
 
  -Mandar
 
  Original Message-
  Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:09 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
  here is the tcl that was generated:
 
  -r 3,2,50,1000,50,wb,10 -c WE8MSWIN1252
 
  the package that is generated is quite long.
  i have absolutely no idea how to read the tcl.
  if you could point me somewhere, i could try and figure it 
 out myself.
  any help is appreciated.
 
  attached is the package code if you are willing to take a look...
 
  (for some reason my computer associates .pls extensions 
 with real audio)
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:11 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
  Chris,
 
  All the owb etl jobs are packages and if you have 
 configured it right, then you could the execute the 
 package_name.main procedure to run the etl process. your best 
 best would be to read the tcl script and the associated 
 parameters for the owb-oem job.
 
  You could paste the tcl and the parameters here to help u more.
 
  -Mandar
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:31 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
  ok, here's the situation:  we are loading our warehouse via 
 etl processes generated by warehouse builder (owb).  we went 
 live with this a little over a week ago.  up to this point we 
 have been running the jobs manually through owb.  for obvious 
 reasons we need to be able to schedule these jobs.  the only 
 way (that i know of) to schedule the owb jobs is to deploy 
 them to entreprise manager.  the problem is that our oem is 
 VERY unreliable and seems to be related to bugs.  we are 
 running oem v9.2 and oracle ee v9.2.  when jobs are scheduled 
 through oem, they run sometimes and hang others.  this is 
 unexceptable.
 
  so my question is:  does anyone know of a way to trap the 
 commands that oem sends to the database?  the obvious 
 solution would be to just cron execution of the packages owb 
 generates inside the database.  this doesn't work though 
 because owb generates funky code that takes parameters, whose 
 values i don't know, for logging purposes.
 
  hopefully i explained the situation well enough.
 
  any ideas??i'd like to get rid of the dependance on oem.
 
  oem sucks
 
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RE: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.

2002-12-12 Thread Mandar A. Ghosalkar
Chris,
 
the parameters 3,2,50,1000,50,wb,10 are used inside the oem-owb job tcl script as
set p_oper_mode [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
set p_audit_level [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
set p_num_errors [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
set p_commit_frequency [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
set p_bulk_size [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
set p_purge_group [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]
set p_percentage [lindex $parList [incr parList_i]]

and then the package.main is called
 
try the following. i would recommend testing this on the test server before putting it 
on prod :-)
 
sqlexec C40_ADMIN_CUSTOMER_MAP.Main(p_operating_mode = 3, p_audit_level = 2, 
p_max_errors = 50, p_commit_frequency = 1000,
 p_bulk_size = 50, p_job = 'wb');
 
-Mandar

Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:09 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


here is the tcl that was generated:
 
-r 3,2,50,1000,50,wb,10 -c WE8MSWIN1252
 
the package that is generated is quite long.
i have absolutely no idea how to read the tcl.  
if you could point me somewhere, i could try and figure it out myself.
any help is appreciated.
 
attached is the package code if you are willing to take a look...
 
(for some reason my computer associates .pls extensions with real audio)
 
 
 

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:11 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Chris,
 
All the owb etl jobs are packages and if you have configured it right, then you could 
the execute the package_name.main procedure to run the etl process. your best best 
would be to read the tcl script and the associated parameters for the owb-oem job.
 
You could paste the tcl and the parameters here to help u more.
 
-Mandar

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:31 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L




ok, here's the situation:  we are loading our warehouse via etl processes generated by 
warehouse builder (owb).  we went live with this a little over a week ago.  up to this 
point we have been running the jobs manually through owb.  for obvious reasons we need 
to be able to schedule these jobs.  the only way (that i know of) to schedule the owb 
jobs is to deploy them to entreprise manager.  the problem is that our oem is VERY 
unreliable and seems to be related to bugs.  we are running oem v9.2 and oracle ee 
v9.2.  when jobs are scheduled through oem, they run sometimes and hang others.  this 
is unexceptable.  

so my question is:  does anyone know of a way to trap the commands that oem sends to 
the database?  the obvious solution would be to just cron execution of the packages 
owb generates inside the database.  this doesn't work though because owb generates 
funky code that takes parameters, whose values i don't know, for logging purposes.  

hopefully i explained the situation well enough. 

any ideas??i'd like to get rid of the dependance on oem. 

oem sucks 


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warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.

2002-12-10 Thread Chris Stephens
Title: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.






ok, here's the situation: we are loading our warehouse via etl processes generated by warehouse builder (owb). we went live with this a little over a week ago. up to this point we have been running the jobs manually through owb. for obvious reasons we need to be able to schedule these jobs. the only way (that i know of) to schedule the owb jobs is to deploy them to entreprise manager. the problem is that our oem is VERY unreliable and seems to be related to bugs. we are running oem v9.2 and oracle ee v9.2. when jobs are scheduled through oem, they run sometimes and hang others. this is unexceptable. 

so my question is: does anyone know of a way to trap the commands that oem sends to the database? the obvious solution would be to just cron execution of the packages owb generates inside the database. this doesn't work though because owb generates funky code that takes parameters, whose values i don't know, for logging purposes. 

hopefully i explained the situation well enough.


any ideas??i'd like to get rid of the dependance on oem.


oem sucks





RE: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.

2002-12-10 Thread Mandar A. Ghosalkar
Title: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.



Chris,

All 
the owb etl jobs are packages and if you have configured it right, then you 
could the execute the package_name.main procedure to run the etl process. your 
best best would be to read the tcl script and the associated parameters for the 
owb-oem job.

You 
could paste the tcl and the parameters here to help u more.

-Mandar

  -Original Message-From: Chris Stephens 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 
  9:31 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.
  ok, here's the situation: we are loading our warehouse 
  via etl processes generated by warehouse builder (owb). we went live 
  with this a little over a week ago. up to this point we have been 
  running the jobs manually through owb. for obvious reasons we need to be 
  able to schedule these jobs. the only way (that i know of) to schedule 
  the owb jobs is to deploy them to entreprise manager. the problem is 
  that our oem is VERY unreliable and seems to be related to bugs. we are 
  running oem v9.2 and oracle ee v9.2. when jobs are scheduled through 
  oem, they run sometimes and hang others. this is unexceptable. 
  
  so my question is: does anyone know of a way to trap the 
  commands that oem sends to the database? the obvious solution would be 
  to just cron execution of the packages owb generates inside the 
  database. this doesn't work though because owb generates funky code that 
  takes parameters, whose values i don't know, for logging purposes. 
  
  hopefully i explained the situation well enough. 
  any ideas??i'd like to get rid of the dependance on 
  oem. 
  oem sucks 


RE: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.

2002-12-10 Thread David Wagoner
Title: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.









You may
have implied this in your message, but are you using Oracle Workflow in
conjunction with OEM? That is the
scheduling method that is taught in the OWB class by Oracle. 



I am
currently learning OWB but have not setup scheduling yet, so Id be interested
to hear your solution once you find it.







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dependance on oem job system.





ok, here's the situation: we are
loading our warehouse via etl processes generated by warehouse builder
(owb). we went live with this a little over a week ago. up to this
point we have been running the jobs manually through owb. for obvious
reasons we need to be able to schedule these jobs. the only way (that i
know of) to schedule the owb jobs is to deploy them to entreprise
manager. the problem is that our oem is VERY unreliable and seems to be
related to bugs. we are running oem v9.2 and oracle ee v9.2. when
jobs are scheduled through oem, they run sometimes and hang others. this
is unexceptable. 

so my question is: does anyone know
of a way to trap the commands that oem sends to the database? the obvious
solution would be to just cron execution of the packages owb generates inside
the database. this doesn't work though because owb generates funky code
that takes parameters, whose values i don't know, for logging purposes. 

hopefully i explained the situation well
enough. 

any ideas??i'd like to get rid of the
dependance on oem. 

oem sucks 








RE: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.

2002-12-10 Thread Chris Stephens
Title: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.



after 
reading this over again, i'm not sure i was very clear on 
this.

to 
paraphrase:

does 
anyone know a way to schedule runs of owb generated code without the use of 
oem?

thank 
you very much for any help.

  -Original Message-From: Chris Stephens 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 
  11:31 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.
  ok, here's the situation: we are loading our warehouse 
  via etl processes generated by warehouse builder (owb). we went live 
  with this a little over a week ago. up to this point we have been 
  running the jobs manually through owb. for obvious reasons we need to be 
  able to schedule these jobs. the only way (that i know of) to schedule 
  the owb jobs is to deploy them to entreprise manager. the problem is 
  that our oem is VERY unreliable and seems to be related to bugs. we are 
  running oem v9.2 and oracle ee v9.2. when jobs are scheduled through 
  oem, they run sometimes and hang others. this is unexceptable. 
  
  so my question is: does anyone know of a way to trap the 
  commands that oem sends to the database? the obvious solution would be 
  to just cron execution of the packages owb generates inside the 
  database. this doesn't work though because owb generates funky code that 
  takes parameters, whose values i don't know, for logging purposes. 
  
  hopefully i explained the situation well enough. 
  any ideas??i'd like to get rid of the dependance on 
  oem. 
  oem sucks 


RE: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.

2002-12-10 Thread Chris Stephens
Title: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.



no we 
aren't using workflow. last time i checked, that was very buggy too. 
i.e. the dependancies could not be verified so all the jobs executed 
regardless of whether or not the conditions of execution were met. i could 
be wrong about that though. ...we don't really need owf as of 
yet.

also 
oracle support provided me with the following note:

Note: 
91833.1 

i'll let you know how it turns 
out.

  -Original Message-From: David Wagoner 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 
  2002 1:15 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: warehouse builder's dependance on oem job 
  system.
  
  You 
  may have implied this in your message, but are you using Oracle Workflow in 
  conjunction with OEM? That is the 
  scheduling method that is taught in the OWB class by Oracle. 
  
  
  I am 
  currently learning OWB but have not setup scheduling yet, so Id be interested 
  to hear your solution once you find it.
  
  
  
  Best 
  regards,
  
  David 
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  Stephens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:31 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of 
  list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  warehouse builder's dependance on oem job system.
  
  
  ok, here's the 
  situation: we are loading our warehouse via etl processes generated by 
  warehouse builder (owb). we went live with this a little over a week 
  ago. up to this point we have been running the jobs manually through 
  owb. for obvious reasons we need to be able to schedule these 
  jobs. the only way (that i know of) to schedule the owb jobs is to 
  deploy them to entreprise manager. the problem is that our oem is VERY 
  unreliable and seems to be related to bugs. we are running oem v9.2 and 
  oracle ee v9.2. when jobs are scheduled through oem, they run sometimes 
  and hang others. this is unexceptable. 
  so my question is: 
  does anyone know of a way to trap the commands that oem sends to the 
  database? the obvious solution would be to just cron execution of the 
  packages owb generates inside the database. this doesn't work though 
  because owb generates funky code that takes parameters, whose values i don't 
  know, for logging purposes. 
  hopefully i explained the 
  situation well enough. 
  any ideas??i'd like to 
  get rid of the dependance on oem. 
  oem 
  sucks