[OGD] Help Required Please.

2004-09-20 Thread Peter Fowler
Hello everyone.  I have recently purchased a number of orchid species from a
Dutch nursery.
I cannot find any references for the following plants.

Bulbophyllum longifolium   PNG?

Dendrochilum aureum

Dendrochilum compactum

Gastrochilus matsurans

Thrixspermum amplexiatum

I would very much appreciate if anyone could come up with any references;
and where they found the reference.

Thanks.

Peter Fowler

Alton, UK
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Re: [OGD] Bush Snails, Caffeine and a Bit of Rambling History

2004-09-20 Thread marianne.fleurimont
How true, DaveK!

:)  Enjoyed the gentleman and his potato deficiency!

Now, if only my snails would take example!

Marianne


- Original Message - 
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Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 2:49 AM
Subject: Re: [OGD] Bush Snails, Caffeine and a Bit of Rambling History


 Martin writes:

 Those pesky critters!  I used to have them, and slugs as well, but now
 they seem to have disappeared and I really don't know why.

 snip

 When this thread was re-opened I decided to scout again.  No slugs or
bush
 snails on 40 potato slices!!!  I still have a bottle of unused caffeine
 solution.


 It's a matter of _intent,_ Martin!   ;-)

 Once your local gang of molluscs find out you've really got the means to
 nuke them to the last degree, in the depths of the night they confer and
 concur, (without your knowledge or permission) OK, we'll go.

 We mentally threaten to really throw out that 'valuable' plant which
hasn't
 flowered for the last decade, and lo and behold, it sprouts a host of
buds...

 And when, thru personal growth or true serendipity we at last acquire the
 emotional skills to deal harmoniously with a certain class of nasty
person,
 they disappear forever from our lives!

 Very frustrating.

 It's enough to make a gentleman drop his handful of mashed potatoes.

 Enough already
 Dave
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  God is dead.  - Nietzsche
  Nietzsche is dead.  - God







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Re: [OGD] Mesurol in pellet form?

2004-09-20 Thread Karen Frederiksen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: 
 What I got was from the drug company Bayer
 for garden use on edible
 plants (strawberries, salads, etc), and came in a
 dark blue pellet form.  I
 guess I am supposed to sprinkle this over the plant
 area, but how much is my question.
Hi Marianne

We also use the blue pellets... aprox 5-8 pellets or
so per pot, depending on pot size... The pellets will
break down after a couple of days, so do consider to
re-sprikle after that to make sure you got to all of
them ...

Happy hunting

Kind regards
Karen


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http://www.geocities.com/simoom.geo

Orkide Vinduet - jfvnligt vandaliseret af katte
http://www.orkide.hjem.wanadoo.dk
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[OGD] For Peter and Viateur

2004-09-20 Thread Jose A. Izquierdo
 Peter:
Gastrochilus matsuran (Makino) Schltr., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. Beih.
4: 289 (1919). 




As to other names I found close but no cigar match ups that may suggest a
review of your labels: To wit:

1- Thrixspermum amplexiatumI found a reference for  Thrixspermum
amplexicaule (Blume) Rchb.f., Xenia Orchid. 2: 121 (1868).

2-  Dendrochilum compactum  I found this: Dendrochilum complectens J.J.Sm.,
Bull. Jard. Bot. Buitenzorg, III, 5: 32 (1922).


3- Dendrochilum aureum I found : Dendrochilum aurantiacum Blume, Bijdr.: 398
(1825). 

4- Bulbophyllum longifolium I found: Bulbophyllum longiflorum Thouars, Hist.
Orchid.: t. 98 (1822)



The source for my information is the Monocot Checlist found at http://www
rbgkew.org.uk/monocotChecklist/qsearch.do  ( really nice place with new
search capabilities) 

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Viateur : Have you checked the entries for Cattleya candida?

 
Cattleya candida (Kunth) F.Lehm., Gard. Chron., III, 18: 466 (1895). 



Homotypic Synonyms:
* Cymbidium candidum Kunth in F.W.H.von Humboldt, A.J.A.Bonpland  C.S.Kunth
 Nov. Gen. Sp. 1: 342 (1816). 


* Basionym/Replaced Synonym Thus this is the first description of the
species that used to be known as C quadricolor.



Heterotypic Synonyms:
Cattleya quadricolor Lindl., Paxton's Fl. Gard. 1: 6 (1850). 
Cattleya chocoensis Linden, Ill. Hort. 17: 37 (1870). 
Cattleya caucaensis Ballif, Chron. Orchid. 1901: 329 (1901). 

Jose
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[OGD] [OD V6 #391] Re: re: Winter rest of Clowesia rosea and C. warczewiczii

2004-09-20 Thread S.M. Wellinga
Dear Julie and Jorge,
Thank you very much for your help and insights in answer to my query 
regarding the winter rest temperatures of Clowesia rosea and C. 
warczewiczii. With your information I feel reassured that I will get my 
divisions properly through their first winter at mine. Next spring, it will 
be all up to me!

Kindly regarding,
Simon M. Wellinga / SymPhyto - Laboratory for in vitro plant propagation
Heerenveen, The Netherlands / EU
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[OGD] antibiotics

2004-09-20 Thread David Janvrin
Just dropping in my limited experience with antibiotics on orchids.
I have found Agristrep (impure streptomycin) effective and non-phytotoxic 
on phrags to control basal rot.  This is a rot that appears (at least in 
South Carolina) during the hot summer months, begins at the base of the 
outer leaves, and can quickly destroy a plant.  I have no idea what the 
organism is.

Your MD won't have heard about it unless s/he's also a farmer as it is 
available from agricultural supply houses.

I too am concerned about the 'willy-nilly' use of antibiotics, but the 
problem there is parents who stop giving whining, uncooperative children 
their antibiotics as soon as the external symptoms abate (and do the same 
themselves when they get their child's new  improved bacteria).  S. 
pneumoniae - the cause of most children's ear infections - is the same 
organism that kills the sweet little old people each winter when we have 
our pneumonia epidemics. (Kathy - I'm not trying to 'flame' you  I would 
definitely not use or recommend one of the newer '-mycins'  destined for 
humans on plants)

David Janvrin
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[OGD] Re: Typos and Other Errors

2004-09-20 Thread IrisCohen
In a message dated 9/20/04 6:19:15 AM, Michael writes:
 Furthermore, for this to work there can be no surprises, if a
 word is unexpected it will be alomost (was that a typo or on purpose?) 
 indecipherable.
 Who would of thought my area of study would be relevant here.
 
True. Your last sentence is perfectly understandable, since the error of 
substituting would of for the correct would have is quite common, hence not 
surprising.
I won't get into the issue of run-on sentences, because I don't know where 
you live.
Back to ochrids.
Iris
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[OGD] Measurol Application

2004-09-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FWIW, a large commercial operation near me dissolved the power or the
pellets in warm water, then sprays it on corn meal for sprinking around and
in the pots.

--  Ray
http://mail2web.com/ .
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[OGD] Re: Typos

2004-09-20 Thread Charles Baker
In a recent posting, Don Stanley wrote, 3It's a pound to a penny
that you took more care in deliberately wrongly spelling that lot than if
it'd been straight text!2 Actually, if the truth be known (which in itself
is doubtful), I did not type a word in that message other than to suggest it
might explain how typos are so easily missed. I simply copied the message
from a file where I had saved it after my sister sent it to me some time
ago. I felt I had to save something as weird as that to look at and think
about periodically. What really bothers me after being able to read it so
easily is when I think about how much I have worried about correct spelling
over the years, not to mention the time spent looking for words in the
dictionary that I couldn9t spell to the point of not even being able to find
them in the dictionary.

Charlie
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[OGD] TSP and Spellcheck

2004-09-20 Thread BCPRESS
While searching for an article in my pile  of reprints, I recently stumbled 
upon the original 1967 article by HH Thornberry  advocating TSP as a viricide.  
It is apparent that his background as a  Plant Pathologist did not serve him 
well as a Chemical or Biochemical  expert.  He shows no awareness that the 
short term effect of  exposure to the alkalinity [pH 12] of TSP is to DENATURE 
protein rather than to  hydrolyze it.  He does compare the alkalinity of TSP to 
its equivalent  in sodium hydroxide [common lye] but doesn't calculate out 
that saturated TSP  [ca. 1 M, 165g/L] is therefore the equivalent of 0.01M lye, 
or 0.4  g/L  When he characterizes TSP as cheap, he doesn't compare it to the 
 cost of 0.4g/L of lye, which is two orders of magnitude cheaper.  He  
conjectures that the sap on the cutting instrument could dilute a lye solution  
significantly enough to lower its pH, but how many dippings would it take to  
transfer, say 1/10 of a quart of plant sap, to a liter of .01M lye  solution? 
Thornberry does acknowledge the viricidal effectiveness of  chlorine but makes no 
attempt to determine the viricidal effectiveness of TSP  experimentally, nor 
compare it quantitatively to chlorine.  He also  advocates the effectiveness of 
milk [!] as a disinfectant, but few of us would  place our hopes on milk 
where it really mattered, as in protecting a prize  plant against virus.
  The alarming aspect of  this cautionary tale is the willingness of many 
old timers to  place their blind trust in poorly documented sources, even 
advocating it to  beginners as gospel, when the literature abounds with studies 
of simpler and  more effective alternatives.
With regard to Spellcheck and typos, it can  be treacherous.  When a 
document contains proper names or abbreviations not  in its lexicon, it often 
suggests a close entry that is.  If a number of  corrections are made in a given 
email it will not be transmitted without a  recheck.  I often regard this 
rechecking as perfunctory, having just  completed the checking procedure, and I 
simply keep clicking the ignore  option.  Spellcheck is relentless and again 
attempts to reinsert its  own preferences during the recheck, e.g., Scully could 
become Sully.  That  is how, on occasions, I have been embarrassed in 
misspelling the names of  correspondents, who could suspect simple carelessness as 
the  culprit.Bert  Pressman
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[OGD] C. quadricolor

2004-09-20 Thread Dorris
Sorry..but no way can you say that C. candida is a valid name for C.
quadricolor..It was written up years after the original write up for
quadricolor ...and as for any other mentions of the plant itself in any
publications..no true descriptions were written...Look it up...The only
valid name is quadricolor..full stop...unless you can come up with a full
taxonomic description written before the one in Gardeners Chronicle in the
1860 s...Bill Bergstrom
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