Re: [OGD] Vanilla.
Title: Vanilla. Andy, for a guy thatprofesses to know everything that is just plain stupid. V. plainifolia and V. tahitiensis aretwo COMPLETELY different species. Your Dr. Zettler needs to be corrected. And never mind the anecdotes about the French stealing. That is just a crock of you -no -what! Wolfgang H. Bandisch - Original Message - From: Andy Easton To: Orchids@orchidguide.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:15 AM Subject: [OGD] Vanilla. Colin, I think you may be in error in your comments about the two supposed species of Vanilla. I don't remember who told me but It was was maybe Dr. Zettler who said that DNA analysis confirmed what many suspected: Vanilla planifolia and Vanilla tahitiensis were one and the same. He did viral work helping the French get the 100% virus infected stock in Tahiti clean. In that the French stole the original stock of V. planifolia from the Liverpool Botanic Gardens several hundred years ago and took it to Reunion, if my memory serves me correctly, it is probably not too surprising that they tried to juice up the pedigree of the plants in Tahiti! Andy Easton ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Viateur's Singapore Orchids At Ellerslie Flower Show
Viateur cited the following Scoop article: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU0511/S00114.htm which stated: Singapore has been a centre for orchid hybridisation and culture due to a long collaboration between the Singapore Botanic Gardens and The Orchid Society of SE Asia (OSSEA. (snip) Many of these hybrids are now rare, and are preserved in only a few sites in Singapore. But they represent a rich orchid heritage It is a pity Scoop let slip by the opportunity to mention that earlier this year OSSEA published a superb large-format book that dealt with exactly this subject. Orchid Hybrids of Singapore, 1893-2003 by John Elliott (published by OSSEA, Singapore, 2005) not only lists every one of the 2000+ registered hybrids that originated in Singapore over the last 90 years, but also manages to illustrate an astonishingly high proportion of them. The book could easily have degenerated into nothing more than a list, but it avoids this fate (and is actually compulsively readable) due to the fact that it is packed full of historic details, anecdotes about orchid-growers and quirky little gems that give an insight into their (invariably obsessive, usually opinionated and often confrontational) personalities. Is this a plug ? Yes, but I think it is a fair one ... the book deserves a wider audience, and, apart from having helped with proof-reading, I had nothing to do with it. Peter O'Byrne in Singapore ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Zygopetalum Hybrids
In a message dated 11/15/05 6:02:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I may be wrong, but I have seen many Zygo hybrids with 'Rhein' in the clonal name and I eventually traced them to be Galeosepalum hybrids. Please check further. They were carelessly labeled. The only registered Galeosepalum crosses were made by JEM. The Rhein crew are from Germany. I suspect that 'Rhein Blue' is probably Bollopetalum Midnight Blue. Iris ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Two or three?
Hi folks! I have a question: How many types of Epidendrum ciliare are there? I have three different plants that show the same spiderlike flowers 1. Very old plant from my father´s garden that has single long leaves and the flower branch is the same size of the leaf. I think this plant could have been collected in the mountains near Caracas. 2. Plant from the arid costal range of Venezuela´s eastern Sucre State. This plant I have identified as Epi. ciliare var. squamatum. The pseudobulbs are squat and fat, the flower branch is smaller than the leaf and the plant grows sort of clumpy, some leaves single, others bifoliate. 3. Bifoliate plant, smaller than type 1, but different from type 2 in that the pseudobulbs are thinner and more pencil like, the plant grows more freely. Would two and three be different varieties? TYK julie, caracas, venezuela ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Embarrassment of Riches
In planning to use my two-year discount coupon from AOS, I have been plowing through this orchid site with a 93-page PDF catalog and 27 pages of "new releases." I have narrowed it down to some possibilities. Can anyone tell me if any of the following are: Don't touch it, it's terrible. or grab it; it's a winner. or That is so old it has a long beard. My biggest concern with Phals is whether they will grow into huge plants or have inflorescences that are unmanageable. I am looking for plants that stay compact under fluorescent lights. Phal. Sogo Romans Lin Jessica x Golden Bells Bedford Buddha's Son x equestris (I know equestris should reduce the plant size, but will it bring in puny short-lived flowers or other genetic problems?) Brother Pico Rose Fangtastic John Curtin Sogo Cock Dtps. Sogo Melinda Brother Girl x Baldan's Kaleidoscope Ascps. Jiaho's Orange Thanks Iris ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Wolfgang what?
Title: Wolfgang what? Wolfgang, you need to meet Harvey Brenneise. I'm sure you would have a lot in common. I think you may have me confused with some others on the OGD, unlike them, I learn more about orchids each day. If you were a little more widely read, you might be aware of the Vanilla theft story which was published in the Orchid Review at least a 100 years ago. Andy Easton ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] paph cross
Iris- I am not overly familiar with wilhelminiae crosses, so I can't say if the liemianum cross would be easier than the moquettianum cross, other than that I'd expect them both to be relatively slow to reach blooming size. But I can say that a single representative of a cross, particularly when paphs are involved, is not a good indication of whether the cross is difficult or not. Even among Maudiae's and their related crosses I have found recalcitrant plants that refused to bloom...and here we are talking about the easiest of paph hybrids. Not only that, but even easy blooming paph crosses sometimes seem to just quit for no good reasonthey just get a pole up their you-know-what...that is, if they had a you-know-what. I once had a Maudiae that regularly bloomed with 3 flowers on a stem...and one year it just quit. I had it for maybe another 10 years, but it never bloomed again. Part of why I love paphs is their unpredictability.Take care, Eric Muehlbauer in damp and still mild Queens NY...still have many plants outdoors! ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
