[OGD] epiphytic Chloraea inquiry
I seem to remember reading several years ago that there is one epiphytic species of Chloraea that is native to Chile or Peru. Does anyone on the list know the name of this species, and/or have further information about it? Thanks, Brian -- Brian A. O'Brien, Department of Chemistry, Gustavus Adolphus College 800 West College Avenue, Saint Peter, Minnesota 56082 U.S.A. e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. (507)933-7310 fax (507)933-7041 http://www.gustavus.edu/~bobrien ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Orchids Digest, Vol 8, Issue 45
Iris et al, Seems there could be a few insects matching the descriptions. Any chance of getting some pictures of them? I'm thinking they may by Lygus spp., perhaps Macrolophus or another type of Myrid bug (true bugs). Keep us posted if you ever do identify them! Cody -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 6, 2006 3:00 AM To: Orchids@orchidguide.com Subject: Orchids Digest, Vol 8, Issue 45 Send Orchids mailing list submissions to Orchids@orchidguide.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Orchids digest..." Today's Topics: 1. history / Memphis, Tennessee (US) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 2. Re: Green Bugs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 3. Re: Green Bugs (Steve Topletz) 4. Missing digest? (Max Redman) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 08:02:21 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OGD] history / Memphis, Tennessee (US) To: Orchids@orchidguide.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed "Fenwick Chappell... unofficial historian of the Memphis Orchid Society. ... Chappell's detailed account of the history of the organization, which held its first meeting... in 1955, can be found on the organization's Web site memphisorchids.org. ... Chappell is a retired surgeon." source : http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/eastmemphis_appeal/article/0,1426,MCA_15 701_4437062,00.html ** Regards, VB -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 09:31:47 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OGD] Green Bugs To: Orchids@orchidguide.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In a message dated 2/5/06 6:03:30 AM, Ray writes: > Sure sounds like aphids to me. > That's what I thought, but she says they're bigger than aphids. Do aphids scurry? Why wouldn't they spread to other plants? I will visit her the first week in March, so I will look for myself. Iris -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://orchidguide.com/pipermail/orchids_orchidguide.com/attachments/2006020 5/10075b4d/attachment-0001.htm -- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 08:56:26 -0600 From: Steve Topletz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OGD] Green Bugs To: "the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD)" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here are some biggins': http://www.paphiopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Image:Aphids.jpg Steve IrisCohen> In a message dated 2/5/06 6:03:30 AM, Ray writes: >> Sure sounds like aphids to me. >> IrisCohen> That's what I thought, but she says they're IrisCohen> bigger than aphids. Do aphids IrisCohen> scurry? Why wouldn't they spread to other IrisCohen> plants? I will visit her the first week IrisCohen> in March, so I will look for myself. IrisCohen> Iris -- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:43:10 +1100 From: "Max Redman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [OGD] Missing digest? To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hi folks, I seem to have missed digest no 37. The only one I have missed in several years and I am wondering if perhaps there was a problem. I sent an e-mail to the webmaster but I think it may have gone astray. Any help welcome. Thanks Max Redman -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/251 - Release Date: 2/4/2006 -- ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com End of Orchids Digest, Vol 8, Issue 45 ** ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Cribb retires in March
The orchid world is about to loss one of its top taxonomists shortly. In the January Orchid Research Newsletter No. 47 (http:// www.rbgkew.org.uk/herbarium/orchid/orn47.pdf), the final Phil Cribb editorial for the series is published. For all the dislike (sometimes irrationally venomous) of some of his work by orchid gardeners, and some in the botanical community Dr. Cribb has made an impressive contribution to the scientific side of orchidom. If only his screeching and whining critics were as productive as he our knowledge of orchids would be much improved. Paul ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Oh? 'Judging 'illegal' orchids'
Such folly. Any one who can afford to buy smuggled plants, can afford to buy a few seedling for the paper work. No one is going to keep illegal plants off the judging table unless the seedlings come with genetic mapping and the AOS verifies the genetics. Not likely. Cynthia, Prescott, AZ ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] no CITES import documents for plants resold inside the USA
Leo said: "NOBODY selling legal CITES App A species is distributing copies of the actual CITES documents. The reason is that to do so would invite the creative use of white out and a Xerox to create dummy documents. What the USFWS requires simply is the SALES RECEIPT indicating the person whom the plant was purchased from and that the plant was purchased inside the USA. " So please tell me, what is to stop me buying a "legal" flask or plant, then photocopying the sales receipt & passing it on to my friends, thus legitimising their illegal plants ? If a complete paper-trail is needed, I'll generate one by making out a second sales-receipt, stating that I sold my legal plant to my friend. BTW ... when my original "legal" plant produces side-shoots and I sell them/ swap them/ give them away, what do I do with the original receipt ? Tear it up into the correct number of pieces and give one piece away with each plant ? You're making it too easy. Like I said before expect 18 months and some phenomenal growth-rates. Cheers, Peter O'Byrne in Singapor ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] CITES and flasks
Peterwhile App. I orchids imported in flask are OK by CITES standards, different countries can apply their own interpretation. So what may be freely and legally available in Canada is still barred in the US by the USFW interpretation of CITES, banning any possible "fruit of the poisoned tree"..Take care, Eric Muehlbauer in very mild Queens NY...not much in bloom or spike except for Phrag pearcei and a few hybrids ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] OT question
Iris Cohen wrote: >If Bill Gates is so rich, why does MSWord's Office Assistant have holes in >his shoes? >Iris I don't know, Iris. Why does the Office Assistant have holes in his shoes? Colin Hamilton Webmaster Australian Orchid Council/"OrchidsAustralia" Rockhampton, Qld. Australia www.orchidsaustralia.com If K-Mart is lowering prices every day, how come nothing is free yet? ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Fox "Fraud" Valley Orchids
>From time to time we on the digest become so disappointed in orchid dealers we >feel compelled to share our experiences with other growers. Not all to long ago I sat through a lecture given by the owner of "Fox Valley Orchids". I also purchased some orchid plants from Mr. K. Almost immediatley the plants died. What lived did not bloom out true to the name on the tag. After some due diligence I found out that my experience was not unique. It appears Mr. K, the owner/salesman, has a long history of fraud and misrepresenting not only his stock, but the information and self promotion he passed off as a "lecture" was replete with lies and misrepresentation. When I contacted Mr. K, I was told in no uncertain terms "that may not be what it is but that is the name on the tag, and I don't change tags", and "the plants were fine when I sold them, it must be your culture." There are many reputable orchid dealers who will stand by the plants they sell and which are true to the name. "Fraud Valley Orchids" is not one of them. Beware ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] The Pleurothallis
Probably the name was mispelled and the correct one be :Pleurothallis navicularis Lindl., Fol. Orchid. 8: 6 (1859). This name is a considered by a synonym. with the accepted Name (by Kew and thus the name that AOS accepts ) is : Pleurothallis loranthophylla Rchb.f., Bot. Zeitung (Berlin) 10: 674 (1852). José ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Orchids Digest, Vol 8, Issue 47
Iris, Try: Pleurothallis navicularis Lindl. a small pretty little species. Dave Horak >Can anyone help me with these? >Den. Mini Nagasaka is apparently a trade name. Does anyone know the parents? Somebody brought in a Pleurothallis mavicaulis. The databases never heard of >it or anything similar. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Show Table Headaches
Can anyone help me with these? Den. Mini Nagasaka is apparently a trade name. Does anyone know the parents? Somebody brought in a Pleurothallis mavicaulis. The databases never heard of it or anything similar. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] NO CITES required for orchid flasks
Mary Lou , Happy to see you are back with us on the OGD. According to your post, Aileen, whoever she is, said: "Any of these flasks that enter the US legally come in with CITES from the country of origin." WRONG!. Orchid flasks do come in without CITES, because FLASKED ORCHID SEEDLINGS ARE EXEMPT FROM CITES. There is no official document of CITES providing proof that flasked orchid seedlings are propagated from legally, or illegally, collected orchid parents. CITES appears to understand that "legally, or illegally collecting of orchid parents" is an internal matter for the country of origin. I am aware that AOS ORCHIDS articles in the past provided erroneous information re "CITES for orchid flasks." If a country of origin wants to indicate that flasked orchid seedlings are propagated "from legally collected parents" I assume they are free do so on a non-Cites form of their own design. There is no requirement by any importing country CITES authorities to pay attention to it. I refer you to the following URL: http://www.cites.org/eng/app/appendices.shtml then scroll down and read: ORCHIDACEAE Orchids (For all of the following Appendix-I species, seedling or tissue cultures obtained in vitro, in solid or liquid media, transported in sterile containers are not subject to the provisions of the Convention) Legal plants, for which no CITES documents exist are: 1) Plants imported as "obtained in-vitro, in solid or liquid media, transported in sterile containers" (flasks;) grown into mature plants 2) Plants propagated in the country, in-vitro, from legally imported parents; grown into mature plants. For CITES Text of the Convention, see http://www.cites.org/eng/disc/text.shtml#VII Peter C. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Fw: CITES not required for Appendix-I species, seedling or tissue cultures obtained in vitro, in solid or liquid media, transported in sterile containers
Mary Lou , Happy to see you are back with us on the OGD. According to your post, Aileen, whoever she is, said: "Any of these flasks that enter the US legally come in with CITES from the country of origin." WRONG!. Orchid flasks do come in without CITES, because FLASKED ORCHID SEEDLINGS ARE EXEMPT FROM CITES. There is no official document of CITES providing proof that flasked orchid seedlings are propagated from legally, or illegally, collected orchid parents. CITES appears to understand that "legally, or illegally collecting of orchid parents" is an internal matter for the country of origin. I am aware that AOS ORCHIDS articles in the past provided erroneous information re "CITES for orchid flasks." If a country of origin wants to indicate that flasked orchid seedlings are propagated "from legally collected parents" I assume they are free do so on a non-Cites form of their own design. There is no requirement by any importing country CITES authorities to pay attention to it. I refer you to the following URL: http://www.cites.org/eng/app/appendices.shtml then scroll down and read: ORCHIDACEAE Orchids (For all of the following Appendix-I species, seedling or tissue cultures obtained in vitro, in solid or liquid media, transported in sterile containers are not subject to the provisions of the Convention) Legal plants, for which no CITES documents exist are: 1) Plants imported as "obtained in-vitro, in solid or liquid media, transported in sterile containers" (flasks;) grown into mature plants 2) Plants propagated in the country, in-vitro, from legally imported parents; grown into mature plants. For CITES Text of the Convention, see http://www.cites.org/eng/disc/text.shtml#VII Peter C. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] no CITES import documents for plants resold inside the USA
To Mary Lou and any of the AOS Judges who subscribe to the list. The AOS response as posted below is uninformed & wrong. NOBODY selling legal CITES App A species is distributing copies of the actual CITES documents. Not even AnTec. The reason is that to do so would invite the creative use of white out and a Xerox to create dummy documents. Also the documents apply ONLY to the importer listed. What the USFWS requires simply is the SALES RECEIPT indicating the person whom the plant was purchased from and that the plant was purchased inside the USA. The USFWS has on file the copies of the original CITES import documentation and will check their files if or when a particular plant is investigated. The AOS should not require documentation to accompany a plant that USFWS does not require. USFWS is the ONLY LEGAL entity in charge of enforcement of CITES. The AOS is not deputized, and should not insert itself into the matter especially by requiring documentation above and beyond the SALES RECEIPT showing who the plant was purchased from inside the USA. The requirement to display copies of the original CITES documents is wrong, and law abiding citizens will not be able to comply with such an ill informed request. I think Aileen and Mary Lou need to re-read the USFWS requirements. A sales receipt is all that is required. Leo Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:47:11 -0500 From: "MaryLou Porlick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [OGD] Judging 'illegal' orchids We asked the AOS office how this would be handled and here is Aileen's reply. ''I believe I have your answer. Any of these flasks that enter the US legally come in with CITES from the country of origin. Each of the seedlings sold should have a copy of such CITES documentation. Without that, we don't judge them. The same is true of the legal seedlings of Paph. vietnamense from Antec Labs. The owners of these plants should keep copies of the documentation that proves they are legal" Hopes this helps for the future, keep that paperwork!!! Mary Lou/Miami. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Oh? 'Judging 'illegal' orchids'
Well, I don't think she was just talking about semi-legal plants. For example, Paphiopedilum anitum has been refused for judging by the AOS, as it has never been exported with paperwork or been presented with an affidavit of fact for preban. ST Schnitz> Such folly. Any one who can afford to buy smuggled Schnitz> plants, can afford to buy a few seedling for the paper work. Schnitz> No one is going to keep illegal plants off the judging table Schnitz> unless the seedlings come with genetic mapping and the AOS Schnitz> verifies the genetics. Not likely. Cynthia, Prescott, AZ ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] OT Financial Question
If Bill Gates is so rich, why does MSWord's Office Assistant have holes in his shoes? Iris ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
