[OGD] Phragmipedium kovachii hybrids

2007-09-22 Thread Peter O'Byrne
In OGD V9, #297, Peter Croezen gave the following advice:

If  customers decide to sell their legal Phragmipedium kovachii
seedlings within North America, it would be prudent for them to supply
each purchaser with a photocopy of their own legal certificate, write
the name of purchaser and number of seedlings purchased  on that
photocopy and and sign it. This way the new owners have proof that
their Phragmipedium kovachii was obtained legally, just in case some
authorty should question it.

This would indeed be prudent, because the authorities are indeed
preparing to act. Page 265 of the current (Sept-Oct 2007) edition of
The Orchid Review contains the following warning:

it is common knowledge that in addition to INRENA certified P.
kovachii plants, many others have been removed illegally from the wild
and smuggled abroad. Some growers in possession of uncertified
material are said to be growing second generation P. kovachii hybrids.
As a result the RHS, as International Cultivar Registration Authority
for Orchid Hybrids, has decided that all future applications to
register hybrids involving P. kovachii must be accompanied by copies
of the appropriate CITES and INRENA documentation.

Peter O'Byrne

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[OGD] Reverse Pksychology

2007-09-22 Thread K Barrett

Snap!  Hook, line and sinker! *G*
 
K Barrett
N Calif, USA The question was asked, Who is Alfredo Manrique?[snip]
 peter
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Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Café.
http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline
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[OGD] once more: unknown orchids

2007-09-22 Thread Maarten van Zuylen
Dear all,

thank you very much for all the answers you've sent me, it was impressing.

If I'm not mistaking the orange Coelogyne was bought at the Popow Nursery in
Germany, but I have to check that with the owner. As soon as I'm sure I'll
let you know. And yes, it is amazingly pretty.

The names I got for the first pink Dendrobium are Dendrobium decockii
and Dendrobium
wentianum, for the second one Dendrobium vexillarius and Dendrobium
habbamense, D. hercoglossum or D. linguella. I hope it will help the owner
of the plants to end his quest.

The first Bulbophyllum was called both Bulbophyllum blumei and Hapalochilus
nitidus.
The second was called Bulbophyllum masdevalliaceum.

No name yet for the Gongora and the Cadetia (which might be C. mulderae?).

But what amazed me most of all was the incredible number of views! At this
moment 1258 times...

Many thanks to all of you, and please: keep 'm growing!
Bert van Zuylen
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[OGD] Orchids to Know and Grow / book / Sheehan and Black

2007-09-22 Thread viateur . boutot
   Orchids to Know and Grow...
a 312-page softcover book from University Press of Florida...
co-written by Thomas J. Sheehan and Robert J. Black,
... illustrated by the late Marion Ruff Sheehan

URL : http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20070922/REALESTATE/709220606

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Regards,

VB


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[OGD] Let's put our energy in saving all species; never mind the hybrids.

2007-09-22 Thread peter croezen

Peter O'Byrne who writes:

This would indeed be prudent, because the authorities are indeed
preparing to act. Page 265 of the current (Sept-Oct 2007) edition of
The Orchid Review contains the following warning:


it is common knowledge that in addition to INRENA certified P.
kovachii plants, many others have been removed illegally from the wild
and smuggled abroad. Some growers in possession of uncertified
material are said to be growing second generation P. kovachii hybrids.
As a result the RHS, as International Cultivar Registration Authority
for Orchid Hybrids, has decided that all future applications to
register hybrids involving P. kovachii must be accompanied by copies
of the appropriate CITES and INRENA documentation.

Peter, as you know, I was speaking about Phragmipedium kovachii the species. I 
could not care less about the hybrids. 

However, the Orchid Review article you quote is a smoke screen.

Why is this new rule just for Phragmipedium kovachii and not for all Lady's 
Slipper species They are all on CITES Appendix I.
It just does not make any sense, unless you know what preceded this ill 
conceived decision for one species. 

By believing and acting on lies submitted by sour grapes Pragmipedium 
kovachii competition of CJM,  who in registering Phrag kovachii hybrids were 
beaten to the punch by CJM's Glen Decker and Alfredo Manrique, Julian Shaw, the 
Orchid Registrar, made the mistake of nullifying their properly registered 
legal Phragmipedium kovachii hybrid.

When Julian finally realized that he should not have acted on lies and realized 
that he was taken for a ride, he reversed his decision back to the correct one, 
namely that  CJM and Piping Rock's Glen Decker were first in registering the 
Phrag. kovachii hybrids made in the INRENA licensed, number one  legal 
Phragmipedium kovachii nursery, Centro de Jardineria Manrique.

Orchid registration with all its faults and uncertainties has worked fine for 
all these years; it will still work fine today without the need for all this 
extra paperwork
brought on by lies and dishonest people dealing with just one species. 

peter



 
 
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