Re: [OGD] Prasophyllum uroglossum (fuscum)
Alan Stephenson wrote : there are approximately 18 plants remaining in the colony (world) and the situation has deteriorated so far I do not see any way to rectify the situation, Alan Rome burnt whilst Nero fiddled What is the Australian Orchid Council doing to try and grow this species from seed and trying to keep it alive in cultivation? If you can get it to grow in cultivation then there will always be a reservoir of plants available to reintroduce it somewhere. Even though it may have no commercial value I am sure that there are enough species nuts who would welcome the challenge to try and grow it. Keep well and kind regards Mike South Africa -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: 2007/01/11 ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Vanilla
Hi All, A very happy and healthy New Year to you all. I need help and I need it yesterday! I have been asked to give a 15 to 20 minute talk on orchids to a Rotary Club and what I want to do is to talk about orchids in general i.e. what is an orchid, how did they get their name, where do they grow and uses of orchids. What I am looking for is for a reference to an illustration that I have seen relating to Vanilla and the Aztecs at some festival swinging arouns a maypole. If anybody has such an illustration would they please e-mail me a scanned copy? I am sure that I have seen this illustration in an orchid book or magazine. Many thanks in advance. Keep well and kind regards Mike South Africa -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.28/604 - Release Date: 2006/12/26 ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Judging Standards
Jay Norris wrote : Does anyone know of a publication discussing the various judging standards for orchids around the world? Ideally, I would like to have a comparison to the AOS included in the commentary. I too would like to see how orchids are judge in other regions. There was a (news)group on Yahoogroups.com for orchid judging. I subscribed but never got any digests/whatever from there and later when I went to Yahoogroups.com the group was no longer listed. So I look forward to postings on this (news)group regarding the subject Keep well and kind regards Mike South Africa -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.6/323 - Release Date: 2006/04/24 ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Bulbophyllum tingabarinum
Thanks Jose. I looked up Seidenfaden(pages 37 to 39)and according to him no definite type specimen is available. That being the case then how can Kew accept a description without a type specimen? Perhaps since Seidenfaden's work was published a type specimen has turned up. Once again many thanks for the much appreciated reply. Keep well and kind regards Mike - Original Message - From: tiosuper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: orchids@orchidguide.com Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:01 PM Subject: Bulbophyllum tingabarinum The Rolfe entity does not have priority. As a matter of fact, if one accepts Kew as the arbiter for species nomenclature ( as the AOS does), Rolfe's Cirrhopetalum miniatum cannot be transfered to Bulbophyllum ( the Kew accepted generic concept ) since there is a 1904 publication for a Bulbophyllum miniatum ( a supposedly Tropical African species) [Bulbophyllum miniatum auct., Orchid Rev. 12: 118 (1904).] Kew makes the whole nomenclature issue more fun by reducing Bulbophyllum tingabarinum and Bulbophyllum flaviflorum to synonyms to Bulbophyllum pecten-veneris (Gagnep.) Seidenf., Dansk Bot. Ark. 29: 37 (1973 publ. 1974). based on the replaced basionym Cirrhopetalum pecten-veneris Gagnep., Bull. Soc. Bot. France 78: 6 (1931). which is the name with priority once the Rolfe's 1914 name is reduced to non-usability. Jose No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - Release Date: 2006/03/10 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - Release Date: 2006/03/10 ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Bulbophyllum tingabarinum
Many thanks to all those who replied to my taxonomic query regarding Epidendrum cristatum vs Epidendrum raniferum. I now have another taxonomic query on which I would value guidance. I bought a plant labelled as Bulbophyllum tingabarinum (which has just finished flowering now in our autumn) and as is my habit I always try and verify that the label is correct. In Seidenfaden's Notes of Cirrhopetalum he transfers Cirrhopetalum flavflorum Liu Su to Bulbophyllum flaviflorum and gives as a synonym Rolfe's Cirrhopetalum miniatum. In Siegerist's Bulbophyllums and their allies she lists Bulbophyllum tingabarinum (described by Garay, Hamer and Siegerist in 1994) and gives as a synonym Rolfe's Cirrhopetalum miniatum but states that Bulbophyllum flaviflorum (Liu Su) Seidenfaden is NOT a synonym. My queries are these : 1) If Rolfe's name was published in 1913 why does it not have preference? 2) If Liu Su's description was valid and Rolf'e's not, I can understand Seidenfaden transferring it to Bulbophyllum from Cirrhopetalum but why, if Rolfe's description is a synonym for some technical reason for the Seidenfaden plant, is Bulbophyllum tingabarinum then also not a synonym of Bulbophyllum flaviflorum. It is true that the colours are different but my plant looks identical to Seidenfaden's line drawings. 3). Is Garay et al's description valid? Many thanks in advance. Oh! by the way the plant is a delghtful little plant and as Shakespeare said A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Keep well and kind regards Mike South Africa -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 2006/03/03 ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Re : Epidendrum
Hi All,
Can somebody clarify something for me please.
I have a plant (flowering now) which was given to me
a long time ago (about 1969). The plant originally came from Brazil and I seem
to think that it was called Epidendrum raniferum. However in that useful little
book by Julian Kenny ("Native Orchids of the Eastern Caribbean") there is
a picture that looks exactly like my plant's flowers but it is labelled as
Epidendrum cristatum. I did a Google search for both names and I got identical
photos under both names.
Can anybody tell me if these two names are synonymous and
which name is the correct one?
Many thanks in advance
Keep well and kind regards
Mike
South Africa
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Re: [OGD] Orchids Digest, Vol 7, Issue 388
Dinesh Fernando wrote : Are there any published books on Sri Lankan orchids so that I can attempt to identify the plant if and when I get it to flower? Dinesh, I know that I have at least one book (A Revised Handbook to the Flora of Ceylon; Vol 11 by Dassanayake, M.D Fosberg, F.R. published by Oxford IBH Publishing Co. in 1981 - No ISBN) but suspect that I have another hidden amongst all the junk in my study. If I do it will surface one day when I re-arrange the deck chairs on the Titanic. This book has keys to identify, descriptions and line drawings of orchids. Hope that this helps. Keep well and kind regards Mike -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.10.5/68 - Release Date: 2005/08/10 ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Fw: Vanda name
Hi All, Did not get a reply to my question on how to differentiate Vanda teres from Vanda Miss Jaoquim so I presume nobody knows. Another Vanda question. In Barbados I saw orchids labelled as "Vanda Mervyn Velthuis". Does anybody know if this is a valid name or if somebody has just transcribed the wrong namefrom Vanda Mevr L Velthuis? Incidentally what is the origin of the name "Mevr L Velthuis"? I would guess that it is the Nederlands/Dutch for Mrs L Velthuis which in South Africa would be abbreviated Mev (no "r") L Velthuis. Any ideas Thanks in advance Mike ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Re : Vanda teres or Vanda Miss Joaquim
Hi All, Just back from a cruise in the Caribbean (thought of you Colin Hamilton as I lived a life of luxury :-)!) In many gardens I saw a terete Vanda mostly unnamed. Are there any characterisitcs that can be used to differentiate Vanda teres (the species) from its hybrid Vanda Miss Joaquim. Keep well and kind regards Mike ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Re: Orchids Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12
Colin, You wrote : Oh what a terrible life you live G I just regard it as compensation that we get for being punished by the Good Lord for that moment of passion that created children :-) G It is all part of my son's salary package! I will think of you when I am enjoying the Life on an ocean wave Keep well and kind regards Mike ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Re : Orchid dealers
Does anyone have any recommendations for reliable legitimate suppliers/dealers of orchid species from Peru or Ecaudor or Thailand or the Philippines? Many thanks Mike ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Re :caribbean orchids
I will be leaving in a weeks time to go on a cruise of the Caribbean. does anybody know of any orchid growers in the area who might be willing to show me orchids growing in the wild? We will be visiting Barbados/Tobago/St Lucia/St Kitts/Catalina Island(Dominican Rep.) /Tortola/Antigua/Dominica/Grenada/Bonaire (Nederlands Antilles)/Grand Cayman/Ochos Rios (Jamaica). Alternatively could somebody please give me an e-mail address for the membership secretary of the AOS so that I can enquire if they have any affiliated societies in those places. I would also be grateful if anybody knows of places to visit in those islands where I might see orchids. Many thanks Mike ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Re: Cattleyas
Hi folk, I have two questions that I hope other subscribers to the two lists can please help me wiht. Question 1 : I have two Cattleyas flowering now. One is labelled as Cattleya gaskelliana and the other as Cattleya mendelii. They both look the same or at the very least similar. How do I know/ tell the difference between these two species? If I look at photos in books and on the Internet I cannot tell the difference. Question 2 : I bought a plant which was labelled as Dendrobium chryseum. It looks different to my Dendrobium fimbriatum var occulatum but I cannot find a photo of Dendrobium chryseum nor can I find a description (have not looked too hard for that!). Flowering now also I have a plant that I bought as Dendrobium flaviflorum from Taiwan. I believe that this is now called Dendrobium fimbriatum. Structurally it looks like my Dendrobium fimbriatum var occulatum and it too is different from the plant labelled as Dendrobium chryseum. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Keep well and kind regards Mike ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
