orion and external jms
Has someone managed to use external jms server with message driven beans? I'm trying to combine orion with swiftmq.
Re: Anyone using TogetherSoft TCC with Orion?
We are using TogetherJ with Orion. I'm not sure I can help you but for hot deployment we just make an .ear file and move it to the applications directory. Orion does the rest. All done in a make file.
From our makefile:
### begin: rules for creating application jar.
DIST_DIR=$(APP_HOME)/dist
EJB_TMP_DIR=$(APP_HOME)/ejb_tmp
deploy:
cp $(APP_NAME).ear $(ORION_HOME)/applications
dist: pre_dist ejb_jar war
@echo -
@echo Creating $(APP_NAME) EAR ...
@cd $(DIST_DIR); \
$(JAR) cf ../$(APP_NAME).ear *;
@echo -
rm -rf $(DIST_DIR);
pre_dist:FORCE
@echo -
@echo Preparing EAR ...
@mkdir -p $(DIST_DIR)/META-INF;
@cp application.xml $(DIST_DIR)/META-INF;
@echo -
war:$(DIST_DIR)
@echo -
@echo Creating WEB Archive (WAR)...
@rm -rf web/WEB-INF/classes/com;
@cd web/WEB-INF/classes; \
cp -rf $(APP_HOME)/lib/* .;
@cp -rf web web_tmp;
@cd web_tmp; \
find . -name CVS -prune -exec rm -rf {} \;
@cd web_tmp; \
$(JAR) cf $(DIST_DIR)/$(APP_NAME).war *;
@rm -rf web_tmp;
@echo -
ejb_jar:$(DIST_DIR) ejb-jar.xml
@echo -
@echo Creating EJB JAR...
@mkdir -p $(EJB_TMP_DIR);
@cd $(EJB_TMP_DIR); \
cp -rf $(APP_HOME)/lib/* .;
@mkdir -p $(EJB_TMP_DIR)/META-INF;
@cp $(APP_HOME)/ejb-jar.xml $(EJB_TMP_DIR)/META-INF/;
@cd $(EJB_TMP_DIR); \
$(JAR) cf $(DIST_DIR)/$(APP_NAME)Ejb.jar *;
@rm -rf $(EJB_TMP_DIR);
@echo -
$(DIST_DIR):
mkdir -p $(DIST_DIR);
$(EJB_TMP_DIR):
mkdir -p $(EJB_TMP_DIR);
deploy_web:
cd web; \
rm -f *~; \
cp -rf * $(ORION_HOME)/applications/$(APP_NAME)/$(APP_NAME)
### end: rules for creating application jar.
Jonathan Bricker
Lilly Research Labs
Java ATG
Ronald F. Lens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
06/25/01 02:09 PM
Please respond to Orion-Interest
To:Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:Anyone using TogetherSoft TCC with Orion?
Hi all,
Does anyone have any experience using TogetherSoft TCC v5 (or 4.x) with
orion? I'm still struggling to get the deployment tool to work with orion.
I got pretty close using the EJB 2.0 generic version in TogetherSoft but
it doesn't provide all the bells and whistles you'd like (like hot
deployment).
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Ronald
--
A thinking computer, isn't that like a swimming ship?
SV: Anyone using TogetherSoft TCC with Orion?
How do
you model EJB 2.0 relations with Together?
WR
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Skickat: den 26 juni 2001
05:31Till: Orion-InterestÄmne: Re: Anyone using
TogetherSoft TCC with Orion?We are using TogetherJ with Orion. I'm not sure I can help you
but for hot deployment we just make an .ear file and move it to the
applications directory. Orion does the rest. All done in a make
file. From our
makefile: ### begin: rules for
creating application jar. DIST_DIR=$(APP_HOME)/dist EJB_TMP_DIR=$(APP_HOME)/ejb_tmp deploy:
cp $(APP_NAME).ear $(ORION_HOME)/applications
dist: pre_dist ejb_jar war
@echo
"-" @echo "Creating $(APP_NAME) EAR ..."
@cd $(DIST_DIR);
\ $(JAR)
cf ../$(APP_NAME).ear *;
@echo "-" rm -rf $(DIST_DIR);
pre_dist:FORCE
@echo
"-" @echo "Preparing EAR ..." @mkdir -p
$(DIST_DIR)/META-INF;
@cp application.xml $(DIST_DIR)/META-INF; @echo
"-" war:$(DIST_DIR) @echo
"-" @echo "Creating WEB Archive
(WAR)..."
@rm -rf web/WEB-INF/classes/com; @cd web/WEB-INF/classes; \ cp -rf $(APP_HOME)/lib/*
.; @cp -rf
web web_tmp;
@cd web_tmp; \
find . -name CVS -prune -exec rm -rf {} \; @cd web_tmp; \
$(JAR) cf
$(DIST_DIR)/$(APP_NAME).war *;
@rm -rf web_tmp; @echo
"-" ejb_jar:$(DIST_DIR) ejb-jar.xml
@echo
"-" @echo "Creating EJB JAR..."
@mkdir -p
$(EJB_TMP_DIR);
@cd $(EJB_TMP_DIR); \
cp -rf $(APP_HOME)/lib/* .; @mkdir -p
$(EJB_TMP_DIR)/META-INF;
@cp $(APP_HOME)/ejb-jar.xml $(EJB_TMP_DIR)/META-INF/;
@cd
$(EJB_TMP_DIR); \
$(JAR) cf $(DIST_DIR)/$(APP_NAME)Ejb.jar *; @rm -rf
$(EJB_TMP_DIR);
@echo "-" $(DIST_DIR): mkdir -p $(DIST_DIR); $(EJB_TMP_DIR): mkdir -p $(EJB_TMP_DIR);
deploy_web: cd web; \ rm -f *~; \
cp -rf *
$(ORION_HOME)/applications/$(APP_NAME)/$(APP_NAME) ### end: rules for creating application jar.
Jonathan BrickerLilly Research
LabsJava ATG
"Ronald F. Lens"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
06/25/01 02:09 PM Please respond to Orion-Interest
To:
Orion-Interest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:
Subject:Anyone using TogetherSoft TCC
with Orion?Hi all,Does anyone have any experience using TogetherSoft TCC
v5 (or 4.x) withorion? I'm still struggling to get the deployment tool to
work with orion.I got pretty close using the EJB 2.0 generic version in
TogetherSoft butit doesn't provide all the bells and whistles you'd like
(like hotdeployment).Any help would be greatly
appreciated.Ronald-- "A thinking computer, isn't that like
a swimming ship?"
Re: Anyone using TogetherSoft TCC with Orion?
I also do similar, but I use ANT
For all the rest of you, TogetherJ is very worth checking out.
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 8:31
AM
Subject: Re: Anyone using TogetherSoft
TCC with Orion?
We are using TogetherJ with
Orion. I'm not sure I can help you but for hot deployment we just make
an .ear file and move it to the applications directory. Orion does the
rest. All done in a make file. From our makefile: ### begin: rules for creating application jar. DIST_DIR=$(APP_HOME)/dist EJB_TMP_DIR=$(APP_HOME)/ejb_tmp
deploy: cp $(APP_NAME).ear
$(ORION_HOME)/applications dist:
pre_dist ejb_jar war
@echo "-"
@echo "Creating
$(APP_NAME) EAR ..."
@cd $(DIST_DIR); \ $(JAR) cf ../$(APP_NAME).ear *;
@echo
"-" rm -rf $(DIST_DIR); pre_dist:FORCE
@echo
"-" @echo "Preparing EAR ..." @mkdir -p
$(DIST_DIR)/META-INF;
@cp application.xml $(DIST_DIR)/META-INF; @echo
"-" war:$(DIST_DIR) @echo
"-" @echo "Creating WEB Archive
(WAR)..."
@rm -rf web/WEB-INF/classes/com; @cd web/WEB-INF/classes; \ cp -rf $(APP_HOME)/lib/*
.; @cp -rf
web web_tmp;
@cd web_tmp; \
find . -name CVS -prune -exec rm -rf {} \; @cd web_tmp; \
$(JAR) cf
$(DIST_DIR)/$(APP_NAME).war *;
@rm -rf web_tmp; @echo
"-" ejb_jar:$(DIST_DIR) ejb-jar.xml
@echo
"-" @echo "Creating EJB JAR..."
@mkdir -p
$(EJB_TMP_DIR);
@cd $(EJB_TMP_DIR); \
cp -rf $(APP_HOME)/lib/* .; @mkdir -p
$(EJB_TMP_DIR)/META-INF;
@cp $(APP_HOME)/ejb-jar.xml $(EJB_TMP_DIR)/META-INF/;
@cd
$(EJB_TMP_DIR); \
$(JAR) cf $(DIST_DIR)/$(APP_NAME)Ejb.jar *; @rm -rf
$(EJB_TMP_DIR);
@echo "-" $(DIST_DIR): mkdir -p $(DIST_DIR); $(EJB_TMP_DIR): mkdir -p $(EJB_TMP_DIR);
deploy_web: cd web; \ rm -f *~; \
cp -rf *
$(ORION_HOME)/applications/$(APP_NAME)/$(APP_NAME) ### end: rules for creating application jar.
Jonathan BrickerLilly Research
LabsJava ATG
"Ronald F. Lens"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
06/25/01 02:09 PM Please respond to Orion-Interest
To:
Orion-Interest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:
Subject:Anyone using TogetherSoft TCC
with Orion?Hi all,Does anyone have any experience using TogetherSoft TCC
v5 (or 4.x) withorion? I'm still struggling to get the deployment tool to
work with orion.I got pretty close using the EJB 2.0 generic version in
TogetherSoft butit doesn't provide all the bells and whistles you'd like
(like hotdeployment).Any help would be greatly
appreciated.Ronald-- "A thinking computer, isn't that like
a swimming ship?"
RE: Postgresql error: NullPointerException at getTables(DatabaseMetaData.java:1707)
Sounds like a jdbc driver problem. Which version of postgres are you running? Later versions (I run 7.1) include the jdbc source and it is optionally compiled (see ./configure --help for options). Also checkat http://www.retep.org.uk/postgres/. Perhaps an older jdbc driver did not properly implement getTables()? -tim -Original Message-From: Brent Usrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 12:12 AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: Postgresql error: NullPointerException at getTables(DatabaseMetaData.java:1707) I'm having problem deploying the addressbook example on Postgresql. When Orion tries to build the table I get the error below. It works fine if I build the table manually, or if I run it on Hypersonic or Oracle. I have been through the article at http://www.orionsupport.com/articles/postgres.htmland still can't get it to work. Any help is appreciated Brent Auto-deploying addressbook (New server version detected)...Auto-deploying addressbook-ejb.jar (No previous deployment found)... java.lang.NullPointerException at org.postgresql.jdbc2.DatabaseMetaData.getTables(DatabaseMetaData.java:1707) at com.evermind._au._jlb(Unknown Source) at com.evermind._px._jlb(Unknown Source) at com.evermind._px._bb(Unknown Source) at com.evermind._au._bb(Unknown Source) at com.evermind._dq._qzb(Unknown Source) at com.evermind._ck._qzb(Unknown Source) at com.evermind._ck._at(Unknown Source) at com.evermind.server.ApplicationServer._as(Unknown Source) at com.evermind.server.ApplicationServer._wl(Unknown Source) at com.evermind.server.ApplicationServer._at(Unknown Source) at com.evermind._in.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484) at com.evermind._if.run(Unknown Source)
State propagation and jsp-beans
Hi all. Does anyone know if it is doable to get the state in a jsp-bean or the bean itself (if implementing serializable) propagated to the other JVM's in a clustered envirionment. I have the cluster up and working fine and session state is replicated, but how about the beans??? Regards //Mike _ Do You Yahoo!? [EMAIL PROTECTED] - skaffa en gratis mailadress på http://mail.yahoo.se
RE: orion and external jms
Hi, Recently we tried to integrate SonicMQ with Orion by using MDB, but failed. The direct reason seems that the tag lookup-context location= doesn't work, but I doubt Orion 1.5.2 dosen't support this feathure right now. So, we have to back to ejb 1.1. If you got any progress, please let us know. Hope helpful! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Karri Niemelä Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 5:07 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: orion and external jms Has someone managed to use external jms server with message driven beans? I'm trying to combine orion with swiftmq.
(my) problem locating a textfile from a Servlet
Hi,
I wanted to port a (running) application from tomcat to orion. It seems
my coding is not proper/portable.
In my war-archive included (in WEB-INF subdirectory) are several
text config files (yes I know JNDI is a better way -but its lowest common
functionality) - and these files I want to access in my servlet code.
Following servlet code does not find these files running in orion while
working fine with tomcat 3.2.
For a beginner: whats the correct way to load such files ?
package de.adig.vbh.wc.controller;
...
public class UIMain extends HttpServlet {
...
file1 = getServletContext().getResource(WEB-INF/log4j.xml);
file2 =
getServletContext().getResource(WEB-INF/wc-config.xml);
== both files are null in orion, but found in tomcat.
files are in dir WEB-INF/ that is in a war-archive that is in an
ear-archive.
they got successfully unpacked by orion and can be seen in orionconsole
Manfred Regele
ADIG Investment GmbH
22 MethodenTools
Richard-Reitzner-Allee 2
85540 Haar
Tel: 089/46268-308
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.adig.de
MS SQL 7.0
Hi all: This question is not specifically related to orion but I'm hoping that one of you might be able to assist me in solving a critical problem. Our system uses a MSSQL database for security validation and user login. Yesterday we found that the LDF grew to 256 mega-bytes and filled up the hard drive of the server. A decision was made to delete the LDF in the hope that MSSQL would recreate the LDF and begin writing to it again. Unfortunately this did not work so they attempted to copy the same LDF back. Now, the server won't start because it has labled our database as suspect. Is there anyway to solve this? Please write back to me if anyone has any ideas. Thank You Sincerely, Andrew Papada IDSS
RE: clustering + ssl together
Here are the hickups in the plan so far...see below. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of elephantwalker Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 1:29 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: clustering + ssl together Greg, I am doing this now, so I will get back to the list when I am finished. This is my working plan: 1. there are two loadbalancers instances, one for http and one for https. These can be on the same machine or seperate machines. hickup At one level this works, but you have to set the minimumIsland/maximumIsland so that each respective loadbalancer picks up either the https island or the http island. However, https connections do not work. It could be because of this blurb in the load-balancer.xml description: secure - Whether or not to use SSL. The default is false. SSL is only used when using session (not IP) based balancing and the backend and the site is using SSL. If you specify the balancer to use SSL then the backend servers will not (the balancer converts to HTTP, ie contains the SSL layer). Note that this puts the strain of decoding the SSL on the balancer. I'm sorry, but does this say that we have the option of NOT using SSL for the balancer, but using it for the backend? Or if we use SSL for the balancer, SSL isn't used on the backend (and thus we have to strip all of the SSL configuration from the backend)? /hickup 2. the ports for your web-sites can be different from your loadbalancer(s) port. This allows you to have the loadbalancer and an orion instance on the same machine, for example. Or the ports can be the same, in which case the loadbalancer(s) has to be on a different machine. hickup Since web-sites are load-balanced (not applications), its important that each *web-site.xml which you use have its own island. This is done by setting the cluster-island attribute in the web-site tag. See above for reference to min/max island ids for the loadbalancer. The port bit seems to work. That is, the http web-site had a port of 10180, and the http loadbalancer listened on port 80. This was no problem. So if you want to have the loadbalancer and web-site on the same ip address, you will need to set the website port to something else so they don't conflict. /hickup 3. the same rules apply for the loadbalancer as orion for unix machines. You need to use some port forwarding, like ipchains, if you want to run the loadbalancer on a user account which is not the superuser. This applies also for the ssl port. (skip 3 if you are using m$ or don't care) 4. the ssl setup in the load-balancer.xml (see the ssl-config tag in the load-balancer.xml documentation) is the same as the secure-web-site.xml, but you will have to set the secure flag in the load-balancer tag. Obviously, this means you will need a keystore for the loadbalancer, and a keystore for the backend for total secure communication. I believe that the communication to the backend is transparant to the user, so you can self certify that connection, irregardless of what those guys at verisign say. 5. you can skip all of this and use apache for ssl (interesting, but slow). This is what oracle advises, because they can't figure out orion, or they have so much invested in the apache/oracle solution. hickup This option is looking better and better. /hickup I'm testing this now, as soon as I get through the hickups, I will let the list know. regards, the elephantwalker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg Matthews Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 3:02 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: clustering + ssl together dear all, there has been a recent post on this but no solution posted. i've got some more info on the problem. can the developers of orion or anyone else let me know if anyone has successfully set up an ssl orion cluster? i can: - set up clustering - set up ssl ...but not both together. some clues. 1. on orionserver.com there is doco for load-balancer.xml that suggests loadbalancer.jar can be given SSL keystore information. does this mean that a clustered SSL setup requires loadbalancer to share the same keystore as each box in the cluster? 2. how do you set the web-site.xml for a clustered secure app. you can't have both the loadbalancer + your secure app both running on port 443 on the same box, so what do you do? i) run loadbalancer on another port? ii) run your app on another port? - the orion doco says that when your app needs to be made secure you should add a secure=true attribute to the web-site element of the web-site.xml plus remove the port attribute. if someone has made this work i'd be grateful for any information, or if you couldn't be bothered explaining how to do it, just maybe forward me your server.xml, loadbalancer.xml, web-site.xml and i'll work it out from that. thanks. greg.
RE: State propagation and jsp-beans
Anything serializable in session will get replicated. Claudio -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 7:15 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: State propagation and jsp-beans Hi all. Does anyone know if it is doable to get the state in a jsp-bean or the bean itself (if implementing serializable) propagated to the other JVM's in a clustered envirionment. I have the cluster up and working fine and session state is replicated, but how about the beans??? Regards //Mike _ Do You Yahoo!? [EMAIL PROTECTED] - skaffa en gratis mailadress på http://mail.yahoo.se
JMS and Asynch messaging
I cant seem to get asynchronous messaging working. I have tried setMessageListener from the receiver level and the session level and onMessage has never gotten called in either case. I am using version 1.5.2 Does anyone know if this works. Synchronous messaging is working fine.
Re: (my) problem locating a textfile from a Servlet
Have you tried a leading slash?
file1 = getServletContext().getResource( /WEB-INF/log4j.xml );
What we do, is get the real path with:
String realPath = this.getServletContext().getRealPath( /WEB-INF/dir );
new File( realPath, fileName );
We do this because getResource() is so dependent on ClassLoaders.
tim.
Hi,
I wanted to port a (running) application from tomcat to orion. It seems
my coding is not proper/portable.
In my war-archive included (in WEB-INF subdirectory) are several
text config files (yes I know JNDI is a better way -but its lowest common
functionality) - and these files I want to access in my servlet code.
Following servlet code does not find these files running in orion while
working fine with tomcat 3.2.
For a beginner: whats the correct way to load such files ?
package de.adig.vbh.wc.controller;
...
public class UIMain extends HttpServlet {
...
file1 = getServletContext().getResource(WEB-INF/log4j.xml);
file2 =
getServletContext().getResource(WEB-INF/wc-config.xml);
== both files are null in orion, but found in tomcat.
files are in dir WEB-INF/ that is in a war-archive that is in an
ear-archive.
they got successfully unpacked by orion and can be seen in orionconsole
Manfred Regele
ADIG Investment GmbH
22 MethodenTools
Richard-Reitzner-Allee 2
85540 Haar
Tel: 089/46268-308
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.adig.de
Cookies larger than 20k
We're having problems passing cookies greater then 20k in size. We get a http: 413 error, and the servlets seem to truncate over that limit. Also, is there a version/bug fix list available to the public? we are on 1.4.5 and I am wondering about 1.5.2, and what issues have been addressed. Finally, has ANYONE had any success getting ahold of Cadrion, the alleged 'support partner' of Orion?? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: MS SQL 7.0
I assume you backed it up before you started deleting some files. Restore from your backup. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:43 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject:MS SQL 7.0 Hi all: This question is not specifically related to orion but I'm hoping that one of you might be able to assist me in solving a critical problem. Our system uses a MSSQL database for security validation and user login. Yesterday we found that the LDF grew to 256 mega-bytes and filled up the hard drive of the server. A decision was made to delete the LDF in the hope that MSSQL would recreate the LDF and begin writing to it again. Unfortunately this did not work so they attempted to copy the same LDF back. Now, the server won't start because it has labled our database as suspect. Is there anyway to solve this? Please write back to me if anyone has any ideas. Thank You Sincerely, Andrew Papada IDSS
Re: Cookies larger than 20k
http://www.atlassian.com/ seems to be the latest support web site - seems like the same company. --- Orion Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're having problems passing cookies greater then 20k in size. We get a http: 413 error, and the servlets seem to truncate over that limit. Also, is there a version/bug fix list available to the public? we are on 1.4.5 and I am wondering about 1.5.2, and what issues have been addressed. Finally, has ANYONE had any success getting ahold of Cadrion, the alleged 'support partner' of Orion?? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: clustering + ssl together
ew, i was trying to run a single secure load balancer with it's own load-balancer.xml. loadbalancer did register the 2 orions i'd set up to appear in the cluster, but after being able to see them appear on the loadbalancer screen, i was still unable to access my web app. the browser just sat there with the little IE symbol spinning, but no joy. all orions and the loadbalancer had their own keystore setup using a test certificate generated from thawte.com loadbalancer = secure and on port 443 (on box1) orion1 = secure and on port 443 (on box2) orion2 = secure and on port 8080 (on box1) !! but only in some experiments. i also tried various other configurations of the loadbalancer and cluster machines having secure on/off, etc. and swapping the port numbers around, e.g. when loadbalancer and orion2 were both running, they were both secure=true but obviously only one can run on port 443 at one time, so i made orion2 run on port 8080 while secure=true was set. i also had a look at apache for how to setup SSL but it looks like you've got to compile the mod in yourself for win32 so i've given that a miss for the moment. greg. - Original Message - From: elephantwalker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 2:48 AM Subject: RE: clustering + ssl together Here are the hickups in the plan so far...see below. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of elephantwalker Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 1:29 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: clustering + ssl together Greg, I am doing this now, so I will get back to the list when I am finished. This is my working plan: 1. there are two loadbalancers instances, one for http and one for https. These can be on the same machine or seperate machines. hickup At one level this works, but you have to set the minimumIsland/maximumIsland so that each respective loadbalancer picks up either the https island or the http island. However, https connections do not work. It could be because of this blurb in the load-balancer.xml description: secure - Whether or not to use SSL. The default is false. SSL is only used when using session (not IP) based balancing and the backend and the site is using SSL. If you specify the balancer to use SSL then the backend servers will not (the balancer converts to HTTP, ie contains the SSL layer). Note that this puts the strain of decoding the SSL on the balancer. I'm sorry, but does this say that we have the option of NOT using SSL for the balancer, but using it for the backend? Or if we use SSL for the balancer, SSL isn't used on the backend (and thus we have to strip all of the SSL configuration from the backend)? /hickup 2. the ports for your web-sites can be different from your loadbalancer(s) port. This allows you to have the loadbalancer and an orion instance on the same machine, for example. Or the ports can be the same, in which case the loadbalancer(s) has to be on a different machine. hickup Since web-sites are load-balanced (not applications), its important that each *web-site.xml which you use have its own island. This is done by setting the cluster-island attribute in the web-site tag. See above for reference to min/max island ids for the loadbalancer. The port bit seems to work. That is, the http web-site had a port of 10180, and the http loadbalancer listened on port 80. This was no problem. So if you want to have the loadbalancer and web-site on the same ip address, you will need to set the website port to something else so they don't conflict. /hickup 3. the same rules apply for the loadbalancer as orion for unix machines. You need to use some port forwarding, like ipchains, if you want to run the loadbalancer on a user account which is not the superuser. This applies also for the ssl port. (skip 3 if you are using m$ or don't care) 4. the ssl setup in the load-balancer.xml (see the ssl-config tag in the load-balancer.xml documentation) is the same as the secure-web-site.xml, but you will have to set the secure flag in the load-balancer tag. Obviously, this means you will need a keystore for the loadbalancer, and a keystore for the backend for total secure communication. I believe that the communication to the backend is transparant to the user, so you can self certify that connection, irregardless of what those guys at verisign say. 5. you can skip all of this and use apache for ssl (interesting, but slow). This is what oracle advises, because they can't figure out orion, or they have so much invested in the apache/oracle solution. hickup This option is looking better and better. /hickup I'm testing this now, as soon as I get through the hickups, I will let the list know. regards, the elephantwalker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg Matthews Sent: Sunday, June 24,
Multiple destination with orion 1.4.8
hi... There is two case that i would like to hear opinion from you guys.I use EJB to pass all the data to different machine and location.I am using orion 1.4.8 for all the location. first case: one client sent data to destination named ormi://machineA/A and forward all the data to 3 different machine named ormi://machineB/B,ormi://machineC/C,ormi://machineD/D concurrently. Some thing happen went machineA try to forward all the data to this 3 machine concurrently. MachineA give exception java.lang.NullPointerException domain was null. seconds case: one client sent data to destination named ormi://machineA/A and forward all the data to 3 different machine named ormi://machineB/A,ormi://machineC/A,ormi://machineD/A concurrently. But only machineB get all the data for machineC and machineD. Therefore machineB get is 3 data. Suppose every machine will get its own data. I had change the port number and its still point to same machine that its see first and give all the data although it didn't give any exception went machineA try to find ejb application in different machine. Had anybody out there had same problem with me. I would to hear from u guys. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
RE: clustering + ssl together
Greg, I just tried something which ALMOST worked. I tried the secure loadbalancer instance like this in the browser: http://localhost:443/mysecuresite/login. The secure loadbalancer showed a session id, and forwarded the request to the secure island! Of course the site didn't do anything, since it was looking for a handshake. It looks like the loadbalancer is just not doing its bit...it is refusing all connections which are secure. regards, the elephantwalker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg Matthews Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:00 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: clustering + ssl together ew, i was trying to run a single secure load balancer with it's own load-balancer.xml. loadbalancer did register the 2 orions i'd set up to appear in the cluster, but after being able to see them appear on the loadbalancer screen, i was still unable to access my web app. the browser just sat there with the little IE symbol spinning, but no joy. all orions and the loadbalancer had their own keystore setup using a test certificate generated from thawte.com loadbalancer = secure and on port 443 (on box1) orion1 = secure and on port 443 (on box2) orion2 = secure and on port 8080 (on box1) !! but only in some experiments. i also tried various other configurations of the loadbalancer and cluster machines having secure on/off, etc. and swapping the port numbers around, e.g. when loadbalancer and orion2 were both running, they were both secure=true but obviously only one can run on port 443 at one time, so i made orion2 run on port 8080 while secure=true was set. i also had a look at apache for how to setup SSL but it looks like you've got to compile the mod in yourself for win32 so i've given that a miss for the moment. greg. - Original Message - From: elephantwalker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 2:48 AM Subject: RE: clustering + ssl together Here are the hickups in the plan so far...see below. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of elephantwalker Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 1:29 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: clustering + ssl together Greg, I am doing this now, so I will get back to the list when I am finished. This is my working plan: 1. there are two loadbalancers instances, one for http and one for https. These can be on the same machine or seperate machines. hickup At one level this works, but you have to set the minimumIsland/maximumIsland so that each respective loadbalancer picks up either the https island or the http island. However, https connections do not work. It could be because of this blurb in the load-balancer.xml description: secure - Whether or not to use SSL. The default is false. SSL is only used when using session (not IP) based balancing and the backend and the site is using SSL. If you specify the balancer to use SSL then the backend servers will not (the balancer converts to HTTP, ie contains the SSL layer). Note that this puts the strain of decoding the SSL on the balancer. I'm sorry, but does this say that we have the option of NOT using SSL for the balancer, but using it for the backend? Or if we use SSL for the balancer, SSL isn't used on the backend (and thus we have to strip all of the SSL configuration from the backend)? /hickup 2. the ports for your web-sites can be different from your loadbalancer(s) port. This allows you to have the loadbalancer and an orion instance on the same machine, for example. Or the ports can be the same, in which case the loadbalancer(s) has to be on a different machine. hickup Since web-sites are load-balanced (not applications), its important that each *web-site.xml which you use have its own island. This is done by setting the cluster-island attribute in the web-site tag. See above for reference to min/max island ids for the loadbalancer. The port bit seems to work. That is, the http web-site had a port of 10180, and the http loadbalancer listened on port 80. This was no problem. So if you want to have the loadbalancer and web-site on the same ip address, you will need to set the website port to something else so they don't conflict. /hickup 3. the same rules apply for the loadbalancer as orion for unix machines. You need to use some port forwarding, like ipchains, if you want to run the loadbalancer on a user account which is not the superuser. This applies also for the ssl port. (skip 3 if you are using m$ or don't care) 4. the ssl setup in the load-balancer.xml (see the ssl-config tag in the load-balancer.xml documentation) is the same as the secure-web-site.xml, but you will have to set the secure flag in the load-balancer tag. Obviously, this means you will need a keystore for the loadbalancer, and a keystore for the backend for total secure communication. I believe that the
RE: clustering + ssl together
Greg, I just logged this as bug 525. The ssl loadbalancer just won't accept connections with https://, but will accept connections with http://. Basic problem with the code. Its not us. Karl and Magnus need to fix this. regards, the elephantwalker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of elephantwalker Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:59 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: clustering + ssl together Greg, I just tried something which ALMOST worked. I tried the secure loadbalancer instance like this in the browser: http://localhost:443/mysecuresite/login. The secure loadbalancer showed a session id, and forwarded the request to the secure island! Of course the site didn't do anything, since it was looking for a handshake. It looks like the loadbalancer is just not doing its bit...it is refusing all connections which are secure. regards, the elephantwalker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg Matthews Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:00 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: clustering + ssl together ew, i was trying to run a single secure load balancer with it's own load-balancer.xml. loadbalancer did register the 2 orions i'd set up to appear in the cluster, but after being able to see them appear on the loadbalancer screen, i was still unable to access my web app. the browser just sat there with the little IE symbol spinning, but no joy. all orions and the loadbalancer had their own keystore setup using a test certificate generated from thawte.com loadbalancer = secure and on port 443 (on box1) orion1 = secure and on port 443 (on box2) orion2 = secure and on port 8080 (on box1) !! but only in some experiments. i also tried various other configurations of the loadbalancer and cluster machines having secure on/off, etc. and swapping the port numbers around, e.g. when loadbalancer and orion2 were both running, they were both secure=true but obviously only one can run on port 443 at one time, so i made orion2 run on port 8080 while secure=true was set. i also had a look at apache for how to setup SSL but it looks like you've got to compile the mod in yourself for win32 so i've given that a miss for the moment. greg. - Original Message - From: elephantwalker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 2:48 AM Subject: RE: clustering + ssl together Here are the hickups in the plan so far...see below. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of elephantwalker Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 1:29 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: clustering + ssl together Greg, I am doing this now, so I will get back to the list when I am finished. This is my working plan: 1. there are two loadbalancers instances, one for http and one for https. These can be on the same machine or seperate machines. hickup At one level this works, but you have to set the minimumIsland/maximumIsland so that each respective loadbalancer picks up either the https island or the http island. However, https connections do not work. It could be because of this blurb in the load-balancer.xml description: secure - Whether or not to use SSL. The default is false. SSL is only used when using session (not IP) based balancing and the backend and the site is using SSL. If you specify the balancer to use SSL then the backend servers will not (the balancer converts to HTTP, ie contains the SSL layer). Note that this puts the strain of decoding the SSL on the balancer. I'm sorry, but does this say that we have the option of NOT using SSL for the balancer, but using it for the backend? Or if we use SSL for the balancer, SSL isn't used on the backend (and thus we have to strip all of the SSL configuration from the backend)? /hickup 2. the ports for your web-sites can be different from your loadbalancer(s) port. This allows you to have the loadbalancer and an orion instance on the same machine, for example. Or the ports can be the same, in which case the loadbalancer(s) has to be on a different machine. hickup Since web-sites are load-balanced (not applications), its important that each *web-site.xml which you use have its own island. This is done by setting the cluster-island attribute in the web-site tag. See above for reference to min/max island ids for the loadbalancer. The port bit seems to work. That is, the http web-site had a port of 10180, and the http loadbalancer listened on port 80. This was no problem. So if you want to have the loadbalancer and web-site on the same ip address, you will need to set the website port to something else so they don't conflict. /hickup 3. the same rules apply for the loadbalancer as orion for unix machines. You need to use some port forwarding, like ipchains, if you want to run the loadbalancer on a user account which is not the superuser.
