RE: FW: [JBoss-user] Redux of Performance Issues
Amazing! It would be one thing if this Geoffrey guy was being a jerk, but my reading of his message indicates that he approached the problem very sensitively. This coupled with Andreas' (from SwiftMQ) comment about his similar response from the JBoss folks make me think that maybe they've forgotten what made them successful in the first place...developers like you and I. -Original Message- From: Ray Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:54 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: FW: [JBoss-user] Redux of Performance Issues I've been working with the swiftmq beta release (with Orion) and I have noticed that Marc Fleury has also spread his charm to the folks over on that list. The developers at Swiftmq have essentially been told to piss off by JBoss (I assume by Marc, since the tone is the same). --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. I know people have complained about this list being a little slow, but if this is what I get from the lead developer of JBoss on how to fix up JBoss performance to compare to Orion's, then ... well ... perhaps I should be spending more time on this list. I'm a little disappointed. I have some interest in both JBoss and Orion, and it's frustrating to get this kind of a response from a key player in the JBoss community. - Geoffrey
RE: Microsoft JDBC Driver - Issues w/ Data Source
I was hoping someone would answer this, because I'm not 100% sure of the answer. However, after looking at the Orion Support site, I'd recommend changing class=com.evermind.sql.DriverManagerDataSource to class=com.evermind.sql.ConnectionDataSource I don't know what that changes, but it is worth a try. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:25 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Microsoft JDBC Driver - Issues w/ Data Source I'm having some issues with using the Microsoft SQL Server JDBC Driver with Orion. Let me give you some context: Although I have some past experience with Orion (servlets, beans, jsp), I've never used its Data Sources, so I know next to nothing about them. And, although the community and documentation have improved of late, Orion's documentation is still pretty sparse. When it came time to spend some time with EJB, I moved over to JBoss, which has stronger documentation, for a while, and while on JBoss, I started making use of the Microsoft SQL Server driver beta, which has proved to be quite reasonable (which is not too surprising, since it's the Merant driver). Due to some performance issues, I wanted to see how the application we're working on would run under Orion, so I downloaded the latest, and started to try and configure it. The basic steps were still pretty easy, but now I'm stuck on the data source - no matter what I do, I can't seem to get Orion to recognize the SQL Server driver. Has anyone tried it yet? Am I missing something obvious? I put the driver JARs (three of them: msbase, msutil, mssqlserver) in orion/lib. I modified the data-sources.xml to use the driver, as follows: data-source name=MicrosoftSqlServer location=jdbc/SqlServerDS connection-driver=com.microsoft.jdbc.sqlserver.SQLServerDriver url=jdbc:microsoft:sqlserver://panthro:1433;DatabaseName=dbVoicenetDevGeoff ;SelectMethod=cursor username=user password=password inactivity-timeout=30 class=com.evermind.sql.DriverManagerDataSource / When orion starts, it says the following: Error initializing data-source 'jdbc/SqlServerDS': DriverManagerDataSource driver 'com.microsoft.jdbc.sqlserver.SQLServerDriver' not found What does this mean? It can't find the driver? The JARs are in orion lib, I've checked that several times, including that the driver name is right, and the class is in the JAR. I can't swear that Orion is loading the JARs, because it doesn't put that out to the console or log files, so I don't really know that it's doing that, but I'm assuming it is. It does say 'DriverManagerdataSource driver', so perhaps the driver isn't what it's expecting. Should I be using another class? Based on the descriptions in the API docs and the Hypersonic example, this seems like a reasonable class to use. Suggestions? Anyone know where I can go from here? Thanks, - Geoffrey Wiseman __ Geoffrey Wiseman: Internet Applications Manager Medium One t. 416.977.2101 x. 529 http://www.mediumone.com/ __ Think it. Build it. Work it.
RE: Oracle deal gag... but on a different note.
On a different note concerning the Oracle deal: I wasn't at JavaOne, but I've been reading all about it on the web. One news story that I've seen a lot about is Larry Ellison and Bill Coleman's little fight. Oracle has put Orion in the big leagues... I mean, Karl could have produced all sorts of documentation that said Orion is better then Weblogic, but BEA would have paid it no attention. However, when Oracle says Oracle is better then Weblogic, BEA certainly takes notice! I consider this a great victory for Ironflare, the J2EE community, and every single young person hacking away in his garage. This proves it--a few talented and committed developers can accomplish anything they set their minds too. I think Larry Ellison said it best, when, at JavaOne, he said We have thrown out literally all of our old Java code. The reason we threw away all of our old J2EE implementations is we had to build a high performance, scaleable version of J2EE. We think that this is a huge breakthrough for the entire Java community because it addresses the single biggest threat to Java, which is performance. And we, all of us on this list, know what Larry Ellison was really saying... We replaced all our old Java code with the code from a small Swedish company called Ironflare. The reason we threw away all of our old J2EE implementations was that, plain and simple, these two Swedish guys are studs, and had managed to build a high performance, scaleable version of J2EE when we had largely failed internally. We think that this is a huge breakthrough for the entire Java community because it addresses the single biggest threat to Java, which is performance. -LARRY ELLISON CEO, ORACLE Now, that is sweet!
RE: Impossible getting the attention of the orion (support) team. Are they still around?
I remember when you could post a message on this list, and within a few hours a fix was available via autoupdate. I knew they couldn't provide that sort of service forever. Things have really gone down hill since pre-1.1 days. I guess that's what you get from a couple of young hackers in an apartment in Sweden. Maybe they really enjoyed the coding, but just don't like running a business. Once they found out how tedious it is, they retreated. -Original Message- From: Thomas Pridham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 8:25 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Impossible getting the attention of the orion (support) team. Are they still around? I agree with you. Orion is a great product, but we are also having problems getting proper support from Orion. Even getting something as simple as an invoice for the product (which is paid in full) has been a huge hassle. Can you imagine doing business with a company that does not provide simple functions like support, accounting, customer management etc...??? I work for a company that provides J2EE solutions to our customers. One client has bought a license and we are getting ready for another purchase. I am really beginning to wonder if that is a good idea. I'd rather work with an inferior product and have access to engineers that can help when a crisis occurs.I think it may be time to dump Orion and use another vendor. I think Orion is a GREAT product, but they MUST provide basic functions to support that product. If they were not ready to support the people who bought the product, then they should not have started selling it!!! Regards, Tom Pridham -Original Message- From: Douma, Ate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 5:24 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Impossible getting the attention of the orion (support) team. Are they still around? Hello all, I've been trying for weeks now getting any response from the orion team to no avail. First of all, I wanted to post a serious problem in Bugzilla but for that I need a account password. I've tried and tried, but never ever received a password after creating a new account or after requesting the account password to be send again. Then I tried sending a message directly to orion support. No response. Then I posted my problem to this list http://www.mail-archive.com/orion-interest@orionserver.com/msg09692.html (Serious problem with Orion transaction processing: multiple connections used within a single transaction) februari 13, 2001, including a test case. I mailed this problem again to [EMAIL PROTECTED] februari 19, 2001. No response. I mailed Magnus Stenman directly on februari 27 explaining these problems and requesting access to Bugzilla. No response. I'm not clear what options are left, but we are seriously considering other application servers right now as this kind of support is really not acceptable in the long run. At least a simple acknowledgment of the reception of the problem would give us the idea that someone is actually monitoring [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox. It doesn't seems to be the case right now. Having to switch to another application server is something I really don't like. Overall I like the orion application server very much (certainly for development). We consider the bug we encountered as very, very serious which will have to be solved otherwise we just don't have another option. The bad (non-existing?) support makes this truly serious. If anyone did have some contact with the orion team (mailbased or otherwise) in the last month's I would be very grateful to know how they did that. The same question I have for anyone how was able to create a Bugzilla account recently. Lastly, somewhat less important: does anyone receive the orion-interest maillist still directly to their mailbox? Since Januari 11, 2001, we didn't receive any mail anymore, and can therefore only access the maillist at http://www.mail-archive.com/orion-interest@orionserver.com. (re)Subscribing again didn't help a bit, not even using new mailaccount. Ate +---+ | Ate Douma iWise B.V. | |Hoofdstraat 2a-4a | | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 4941 DC Raamsdonksveer | | Phone ++31 (0)162 517167 The Netherlands| | Fax++31 (0)162 516872 http://www.iwise.nl| +---+
JavaMail from a Session Bean
Title: RE: sql trace
I have a session
bean which services all e-mail requests for my application. All works
great unless the target SMTP server requires authentication. I can't
figure out how to get authenticated!
I have tried
sub-classing javax.mail.Authenticator and over-riding the method
"getPasswordAuthentication()" which I have simply returning "new
PasswordAuthentication("myusername", "mypassword")" I still receive an
Exception though. I have looked all over for the answer. Any
hints?
Thanks,
Nathan
Phelps
RE: New 2 Orion.
1.) You can cleanly shut Orion down using the following command: java -jar admin.jar ormi://yourservername admin youradminpw -shutdown Or, you can use the Orion console by right-clicking on the Server and choosing Shutdown from the Context-sensitive menu. 2.) See http://www.znerd.demon.nl/orion-primer/ -Original Message-From: Miles Daffin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 2:12 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: New 2 Orion. Hi, I have 2 questions for the Community: 1) I can start Orion (1.3.8) usinga batch file but I cannot believe that the only way to stop it is 'Ctrl - c'. Is it? 2) I find the instructions for creating a new application a little scanty - does anyone know where I can find a real idiots', step by tedious step, guide to setting up an alternative to the default application? Thanks. --Miles DaffinJava Developer, Netherlands. Land: +31 (0)10 476 2412Mobile: +31 (0)6 2959 1423Permanent email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JavaBean with Orion Server
See the following tutorial: http://www.znerd.demon.nl/orion-primer/ You cannot communicate 'directly' with EJBs from JSPs without an intermediate layer (JavaBeans, or a EJB tag library). See the following document concerning the Orion EJB tag library: http://www.orionserver.com/tags/ejbtags/ I would, however, recommend putting as little code as possible in your JSPs, in favor of placing it in JavaBeans or Servlets. -Original Message- From: Fortino Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:46 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: JavaBean with Orion Server Hi all, I just downloaded the Orion Server and I using with a JSP book and everything is working fine but now I am in a new chapter where I learning about JavaBeans but I am not able to run any JavaBeans. What Should I need to do in order to run EJB? Where should put the jsp and the html files whit ebj tags? Do I need something else to use JavaBeans? Thanks Fortino. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: HOWTO Sun's Java Pet Store Orion 1.0 Cloudscape JDBMS win98
Seems like a perfect fit for orionsupport.com -Original Message- From: Kirk Kalvar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 3:09 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: HOWTO Sun's Java Pet Store Orion 1.0 Cloudscape JDBMS win98 I would be happy to only I'm do not have a public access website. If someone would like to host please contact me. Thanks, Kirk S. Kalvar -Original Message- From: Raphael Gillett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 2:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HOWTO Sun's Java Pet Store Orion 1.0 Cloudscape JDBMS win98 Kirk, Simply provide a link to your website. Very nice of you to do this. Thank you. Raphael Gillett Kirk Kalvar wrote: I developed a how to for jps and Orion 1.0 and tried to post it to orion-interest.There was a zip file included in the post so I don't think it made it.What do I need to do to post the how to and zip as an attachment? The zip file contains the Orion configuration files for jps and the updated estore-patched.ear with the orionsecurityadapter included.The howto.txt has detailed instructions on installing jvm, j2ee, Orion (cloudscape) and jps for win98. Would be good for newbies just getting onboard with orion (like me recently). Thanks, Kirk S. Kalvar
All I have to say is...
IT WORKS NOW At least on Windows 2000 Professional. C:\orionjava -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost admin admin -shutdown C:\orionjava -jar orion.jar Orion/1.1.4 initialized Shutting down... Thanks, Nathan Phelps solarc.com
RE: admin -shutdown
This issue is frustrating to me. You'd think something as fundamental as shutting down the server would work--it did in 0.9. I really like Orion, but I just can't recommend it to my employer if such fundamental features don't work. Ideally you won't be shutting down the server very often, however when you are configuring and testing you do it a lot. This issue has received a lot of traffic on this list, but I have yet to hear anyone for the Orion Team explain either a) what we're doing wrong to cause this error, or b) that it is indeed a bug in the software and it will be fixed in release 1.x. I understand Orion is hard to beat for the price, but I'd gladly pay more for a server I can shutdown! Nathan Phelps -Original Message- From: Christian Sell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 5:09 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: admin -shutdown a follow-up to my earlier question on using the -shutdown command to the admin.jar program: assuming that localhost:8080 is not the port the admin server is listening on (since its the HTTP port), I roamed through the few docs that exist and came across RMI.XML, where the default RMI server port is listed as 23791. Now, when trying that one (or leaving the port number empty, for that matter), I get this: command: "java -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost:23791 admin logos -shutdown" Error: com.evermind.reflect.UndeclaredExceptionTypeException: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException The contents of the log files are not of much help. Most log only contain stuff like: 28.06.00 11:32 Stopped 28.06.00 11:34 Started -Original Message- From: Christian Sell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2000 01:42 Subject: JSP page compilation classpath? I have an application with a JSP page which uses a tag from a taglibrary. The taglib classes are under WEB-INF/classes as usual. However, when invoking the JSP page, I get an error saying: Error parsing JSP page /jsp/JSPTestTag.jsp line 32 Tag class com.itsit.wcf.adaptor.jsp.GetComponentTag not found: com.itsit.wcf.adaptor.jsp.GetComponentTag where does Orion look for classes during page compilation?? Also, I will take another try at the following problem. This has been posted by several people a couple of times, but to my knowledge without an answer to date: When trying to shutdown the server with the comand "admin.jar ormi://localhost:8080 admin pwd -shutdown" I get another error message: Error: javax.naming.NamingException: Lookup error: java.io.StreamCorruptedExcept ion: Caught EOFException while reading the stream header; nested exception is: java.io.StreamCorruptedException: Caught EOFException while reading the stream header why?
EJB 2.0
BEA Systems website says "BEA Delivers Industry's First Enterprise JavaBeans 2.0 Implementation." Does the Orion team have plans to release a version of Orion with an implementation of EJB 2.0 based upon the latest draft specification?
