Re: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group

2001-02-09 Thread Michael Van

Mike,

Thank you for your response.  As you said, this course is unique. However,
the nature of the course is not in the printed material, rather in the
collaboration of software engineers.  For example, on week 7, the subject of
servlet data-base connection pooling is introduced.  However, the
participants get the suggested reading material for that subject (Wrox'
Advanced Java Server Programming, non-EJB version), and do the tutorials in
that book.  For the XSL/XSLT portion (week 12), the subject and suggested
reading are introduced, but the learning happens in the assignment and
peer-discussion.

This isn't different than any other course, but because of the reliance of
copywritten materials and in-depth peer-discussion, it wouldn't fit well
with the excellent tutorials on the Jollem site.  Instead, it compliments
the existing tutorials by offering an educational roadmap in the syllabus,
and the structure of deadlines and assignments.

Michael Van
CEO, JUGerNaut
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:52 AM
Subject: RE: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group


 Is there any chance of getting this course put online so that others
outside
 of Maryland can benefit? It sounds like you've built something quite
unique
 as a tutorial that teaches people the basics of servlets, XML/XSLT, EJBs
 etc?

 (I help run OrionSupport and we'd be happy to put it up / host it there)

 It would serve as a nice compliment to the jollem.com tutorials.

 -mike

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Van
  Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 5:17 PM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group
 
 
  To Orion and the people who offer support for this product:
 
  THANK YOU!
 
  My name is Michael Van Geertruy and I am the founder and CEO of the
  Annapolis MD Java User Group, JUGerNaut (501-c-4).  For the last 15
weeks
  I've been teaching a course in this user group called "Java and the
  Internet", using the OrionServer as a teaching platform.  That is, each
  participant in the course was required to download a version of Orion at
  home, and then use OrionServer for thier work in the course.
 
  I chose Orion Server for a number of reasons.  Most notably:
  * It is free for use as a development environment.
  * It is a TRUE implementation of the J2EE platform.
  * Its CPU footprint is very small.
  * It has a robust implementation of servlets.
  * It has easy to understand, XML-based configuration files.
  * It contains xalen and xerces, which allowed us to touch on XSLT's.
 
  On behalf of the JUGerNaut organization, I would like to thank you for
  offering this tool for use in our development environment.  Without it,
we
  would not have been able to offer this training for FREE (the
participants
  paid no money to attend the course).  Indeed, many of the participants
had
  prior experience programming EJB's and commented on how superior your
  product implements the J2EE when compared to Sybase, Oracle, and
  BEA-Weblogic.
 
  Oral course surveys revealed that the participants in the course felt
more
  secure with the Java technologies of servlets, JSP's, CMP, and BMP using
a
  home-grown database-connection-pooling bean.  Additionally, this course
  produced an EJB that will be used by a local charity organization
(saving
  them thousands of dollars in development costs).  Without Orion
  Server, the
  quality of training that we gave and the direct impact this program had
on
  our community would never have happened.
 
  By offering this training for free to all participants, and by
  training them
  using Orion Server, we are growing EJB specialists in Maryland who are
  partial to using Orion Server. This translates to experienced engineers
  expressing an affinity for Orion Server in the workplace over other
  competing technologies.  I sincerely thank you and your organization for
  providing us this invaluable resource.
 
  Thank you,
 
  Michael L. Van
  CEO, JUGerNaut
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  PS.  We are holding a graduation ceremony for this course and others on
  March 14, 2001.  After the ceremony, we are offering open enrollment
into
  JUGerNaut (free) and thus, to a slew of courses we will be
  offering (free to
  all participants).  They are:
  Java Programmer Level Certification (13 - 22 weeks)
  Java Developer Level Certification (16 weeks)
  Java Architect Level Certification (depending on demand)
  J2ME (the vm used on embedded systems)
  Java Security API (14 weeks)
  All courses use peer instruction (the students use books and a syllabus
to
  guide them as they study the topics together) and all courses are free
to
  partipants.  Additionally, we are rolling out a new legal-referral plan
to
  all members that will help to ensure they 

Re: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group

2001-02-09 Thread Joseph B. Ottinger

Michael, that still sounds useful in the form of a syllabus... That'd be a
GREAT addition, if it was something you wanted to propagate. Even if not,
a simple list of references for a given topic would be awfully handy.

On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Michael Van wrote:

 Mike,
 
 Thank you for your response.  As you said, this course is unique. However,
 the nature of the course is not in the printed material, rather in the
 collaboration of software engineers.  For example, on week 7, the subject of
 servlet data-base connection pooling is introduced.  However, the
 participants get the suggested reading material for that subject (Wrox'
 Advanced Java Server Programming, non-EJB version), and do the tutorials in
 that book.  For the XSL/XSLT portion (week 12), the subject and suggested
 reading are introduced, but the learning happens in the assignment and
 peer-discussion.
 
 This isn't different than any other course, but because of the reliance of
 copywritten materials and in-depth peer-discussion, it wouldn't fit well
 with the excellent tutorials on the Jollem site.  Instead, it compliments
 the existing tutorials by offering an educational roadmap in the syllabus,
 and the structure of deadlines and assignments.
 
 Michael Van
 CEO, JUGerNaut
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:52 AM
 Subject: RE: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group
 
 
  Is there any chance of getting this course put online so that others
 outside
  of Maryland can benefit? It sounds like you've built something quite
 unique
  as a tutorial that teaches people the basics of servlets, XML/XSLT, EJBs
  etc?
 
  (I help run OrionSupport and we'd be happy to put it up / host it there)
 
  It would serve as a nice compliment to the jollem.com tutorials.
 
  -mike
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Van
   Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 5:17 PM
   To: Orion-Interest
   Subject: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group
  
  
   To Orion and the people who offer support for this product:
  
   THANK YOU!
  
   My name is Michael Van Geertruy and I am the founder and CEO of the
   Annapolis MD Java User Group, JUGerNaut (501-c-4).  For the last 15
 weeks
   I've been teaching a course in this user group called "Java and the
   Internet", using the OrionServer as a teaching platform.  That is, each
   participant in the course was required to download a version of Orion at
   home, and then use OrionServer for thier work in the course.
  
   I chose Orion Server for a number of reasons.  Most notably:
   * It is free for use as a development environment.
   * It is a TRUE implementation of the J2EE platform.
   * Its CPU footprint is very small.
   * It has a robust implementation of servlets.
   * It has easy to understand, XML-based configuration files.
   * It contains xalen and xerces, which allowed us to touch on XSLT's.
  
   On behalf of the JUGerNaut organization, I would like to thank you for
   offering this tool for use in our development environment.  Without it,
 we
   would not have been able to offer this training for FREE (the
 participants
   paid no money to attend the course).  Indeed, many of the participants
 had
   prior experience programming EJB's and commented on how superior your
   product implements the J2EE when compared to Sybase, Oracle, and
   BEA-Weblogic.
  
   Oral course surveys revealed that the participants in the course felt
 more
   secure with the Java technologies of servlets, JSP's, CMP, and BMP using
 a
   home-grown database-connection-pooling bean.  Additionally, this course
   produced an EJB that will be used by a local charity organization
 (saving
   them thousands of dollars in development costs).  Without Orion
   Server, the
   quality of training that we gave and the direct impact this program had
 on
   our community would never have happened.
  
   By offering this training for free to all participants, and by
   training them
   using Orion Server, we are growing EJB specialists in Maryland who are
   partial to using Orion Server. This translates to experienced engineers
   expressing an affinity for Orion Server in the workplace over other
   competing technologies.  I sincerely thank you and your organization for
   providing us this invaluable resource.
  
   Thank you,
  
   Michael L. Van
   CEO, JUGerNaut
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   PS.  We are holding a graduation ceremony for this course and others on
   March 14, 2001.  After the ceremony, we are offering open enrollment
 into
   JUGerNaut (free) and thus, to a slew of courses we will be
   offering (free to
   all participants).  They are:
   Java Programmer Level Certification (13 - 22 weeks)
   Java Developer Level Certification (16 weeks)
   Java Architect Level Certification 

RE: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group

2001-02-09 Thread Korosh Afshar


We are starting to venture into the orion world cautiously but steadly.

would you care to share any insight on pitfals to watch for or issues to
deal with or anything that might hinder our development effort if not dealt
with upfront?

this could be technical or non-technical issues particular to orion.

any such insight from your students would do much to improve the product and
for us to deal with appropriately.


k.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Van
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:17 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group


To Orion and the people who offer support for this product:

THANK YOU!

My name is Michael Van Geertruy and I am the founder and CEO of the
Annapolis MD Java User Group, JUGerNaut (501-c-4).  For the last 15 weeks
I've been teaching a course in this user group called "Java and the
Internet", using the OrionServer as a teaching platform.  That is, each
participant in the course was required to download a version of Orion at
home, and then use OrionServer for thier work in the course.

I chose Orion Server for a number of reasons.  Most notably:
* It is free for use as a development environment.
* It is a TRUE implementation of the J2EE platform.
* Its CPU footprint is very small.
* It has a robust implementation of servlets.
* It has easy to understand, XML-based configuration files.
* It contains xalen and xerces, which allowed us to touch on XSLT's.

On behalf of the JUGerNaut organization, I would like to thank you for
offering this tool for use in our development environment.  Without it, we
would not have been able to offer this training for FREE (the participants
paid no money to attend the course).  Indeed, many of the participants had
prior experience programming EJB's and commented on how superior your
product implements the J2EE when compared to Sybase, Oracle, and
BEA-Weblogic.

Oral course surveys revealed that the participants in the course felt more
secure with the Java technologies of servlets, JSP's, CMP, and BMP using a
home-grown database-connection-pooling bean.  Additionally, this course
produced an EJB that will be used by a local charity organization (saving
them thousands of dollars in development costs).  Without Orion Server, the
quality of training that we gave and the direct impact this program had on
our community would never have happened.

By offering this training for free to all participants, and by training them
using Orion Server, we are growing EJB specialists in Maryland who are
partial to using Orion Server. This translates to experienced engineers
expressing an affinity for Orion Server in the workplace over other
competing technologies.  I sincerely thank you and your organization for
providing us this invaluable resource.

Thank you,

Michael L. Van
CEO, JUGerNaut
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS.  We are holding a graduation ceremony for this course and others on
March 14, 2001.  After the ceremony, we are offering open enrollment into
JUGerNaut (free) and thus, to a slew of courses we will be offering (free to
all participants).  They are:
Java Programmer Level Certification (13 - 22 weeks)
Java Developer Level Certification (16 weeks)
Java Architect Level Certification (depending on demand)
J2ME (the vm used on embedded systems)
Java Security API (14 weeks)
All courses use peer instruction (the students use books and a syllabus to
guide them as they study the topics together) and all courses are free to
partipants.  Additionally, we are rolling out a new legal-referral plan to
all members that will help to ensure they will never be "stiffed" on a
contract again.  Please contact me for more information.







RE: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group

2001-02-09 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971

I look forward to previewing this wonderful course, when it is ready. 

-Original Message-
From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:52 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group


Is there any chance of getting this course put online so that others outside
of Maryland can benefit? It sounds like you've built something quite unique
as a tutorial that teaches people the basics of servlets, XML/XSLT, EJBs
etc?

(I help run OrionSupport and we'd be happy to put it up / host it there)

It would serve as a nice compliment to the jollem.com tutorials.

-mike

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Van
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 5:17 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group


 To Orion and the people who offer support for this product:

 THANK YOU!

 My name is Michael Van Geertruy and I am the founder and CEO of the
 Annapolis MD Java User Group, JUGerNaut (501-c-4).  For the last 15 weeks
 I've been teaching a course in this user group called "Java and the
 Internet", using the OrionServer as a teaching platform.  That is, each
 participant in the course was required to download a version of Orion at
 home, and then use OrionServer for thier work in the course.

 I chose Orion Server for a number of reasons.  Most notably:
 * It is free for use as a development environment.
 * It is a TRUE implementation of the J2EE platform.
 * Its CPU footprint is very small.
 * It has a robust implementation of servlets.
 * It has easy to understand, XML-based configuration files.
 * It contains xalen and xerces, which allowed us to touch on XSLT's.

 On behalf of the JUGerNaut organization, I would like to thank you for
 offering this tool for use in our development environment.  Without it, we
 would not have been able to offer this training for FREE (the participants
 paid no money to attend the course).  Indeed, many of the participants had
 prior experience programming EJB's and commented on how superior your
 product implements the J2EE when compared to Sybase, Oracle, and
 BEA-Weblogic.

 Oral course surveys revealed that the participants in the course felt more
 secure with the Java technologies of servlets, JSP's, CMP, and BMP using a
 home-grown database-connection-pooling bean.  Additionally, this course
 produced an EJB that will be used by a local charity organization (saving
 them thousands of dollars in development costs).  Without Orion
 Server, the
 quality of training that we gave and the direct impact this program had on
 our community would never have happened.

 By offering this training for free to all participants, and by
 training them
 using Orion Server, we are growing EJB specialists in Maryland who are
 partial to using Orion Server. This translates to experienced engineers
 expressing an affinity for Orion Server in the workplace over other
 competing technologies.  I sincerely thank you and your organization for
 providing us this invaluable resource.

 Thank you,

 Michael L. Van
 CEO, JUGerNaut
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 PS.  We are holding a graduation ceremony for this course and others on
 March 14, 2001.  After the ceremony, we are offering open enrollment into
 JUGerNaut (free) and thus, to a slew of courses we will be
 offering (free to
 all participants).  They are:
 Java Programmer Level Certification (13 - 22 weeks)
 Java Developer Level Certification (16 weeks)
 Java Architect Level Certification (depending on demand)
 J2ME (the vm used on embedded systems)
 Java Security API (14 weeks)
 All courses use peer instruction (the students use books and a syllabus to
 guide them as they study the topics together) and all courses are free to
 partipants.  Additionally, we are rolling out a new legal-referral plan to
 all members that will help to ensure they will never be "stiffed" on a
 contract again.  Please contact me for more information.








RE: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group

2001-02-09 Thread Dominic Hanlan


I would second that request.

From: "Mike Cannon-Brookes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:52:16 +1100

Is there any chance of getting this course put online so that others 
outside
of Maryland can benefit? It sounds like you've built something quite unique
as a tutorial that teaches people the basics of servlets, XML/XSLT, EJBs
etc?

(I help run OrionSupport and we'd be happy to put it up / host it there)

It would serve as a nice compliment to the jollem.com tutorials.

-mike

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Van
  Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 5:17 PM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group
 
 
  To Orion and the people who offer support for this product:
 
  THANK YOU!
 
  My name is Michael Van Geertruy and I am the founder and CEO of the
  Annapolis MD Java User Group, JUGerNaut (501-c-4).  For the last 15 
weeks
  I've been teaching a course in this user group called "Java and the
  Internet", using the OrionServer as a teaching platform.  That is, each
  participant in the course was required to download a version of Orion at
  home, and then use OrionServer for thier work in the course.
 
  I chose Orion Server for a number of reasons.  Most notably:
  * It is free for use as a development environment.
  * It is a TRUE implementation of the J2EE platform.
  * Its CPU footprint is very small.
  * It has a robust implementation of servlets.
  * It has easy to understand, XML-based configuration files.
  * It contains xalen and xerces, which allowed us to touch on XSLT's.
 
  On behalf of the JUGerNaut organization, I would like to thank you for
  offering this tool for use in our development environment.  Without it, 
we
  would not have been able to offer this training for FREE (the 
participants
  paid no money to attend the course).  Indeed, many of the participants 
had
  prior experience programming EJB's and commented on how superior your
  product implements the J2EE when compared to Sybase, Oracle, and
  BEA-Weblogic.
 
  Oral course surveys revealed that the participants in the course felt 
more
  secure with the Java technologies of servlets, JSP's, CMP, and BMP using 
a
  home-grown database-connection-pooling bean.  Additionally, this course
  produced an EJB that will be used by a local charity organization 
(saving
  them thousands of dollars in development costs).  Without Orion
  Server, the
  quality of training that we gave and the direct impact this program had 
on
  our community would never have happened.
 
  By offering this training for free to all participants, and by
  training them
  using Orion Server, we are growing EJB specialists in Maryland who are
  partial to using Orion Server. This translates to experienced engineers
  expressing an affinity for Orion Server in the workplace over other
  competing technologies.  I sincerely thank you and your organization for
  providing us this invaluable resource.
 
  Thank you,
 
  Michael L. Van
  CEO, JUGerNaut
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  PS.  We are holding a graduation ceremony for this course and others on
  March 14, 2001.  After the ceremony, we are offering open enrollment 
into
  JUGerNaut (free) and thus, to a slew of courses we will be
  offering (free to
  all participants).  They are:
  Java Programmer Level Certification (13 - 22 weeks)
  Java Developer Level Certification (16 weeks)
  Java Architect Level Certification (depending on demand)
  J2ME (the vm used on embedded systems)
  Java Security API (14 weeks)
  All courses use peer instruction (the students use books and a syllabus 
to
  guide them as they study the topics together) and all courses are free 
to
  partipants.  Additionally, we are rolling out a new legal-referral plan 
to
  all members that will help to ensure they will never be "stiffed" on a
  contract again.  Please contact me for more information.
 
 
 


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RE: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group

2001-02-09 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971

I like to open this up with a "marketing" hat vs. a "development" hat. I think you 
need to familiarize yourself with Orion, and look at the "official" doc, what there is 
of it at www.orionserver.com, plus the unofficial material at www.jollem.com and 
www.orionsupport.com.  I actively encourage students and developers to play with Orion 
and jboss/tomcat (www.jboss.org).  The only thing I am not sure of (and this list 
hasn't answered the question) is how would Orion hold up traffic wise, in say running 
an "e" store the size of Sears and Roebucks?  Is this just a task suitable to the big 
guns, like WebSphere and Weblogic, or can Orion stand up in the boxing ring?  I see 
Orion and the open source contenders making a nice niche into the low and middle 
company markets, but not into the fortune five hundred (at present).  A big bottleneck 
is the support and documentation issues.  If you look at the open source databases, 
for example (www.mysql.com and www.postgresql.org), the first h!
!
!
as excellent documentation and the second is OK.  Both offer excellent support 
services though companies and lists, but they have a hard time upsetting the big guns, 
such as Oracle.  And you have to enlighten companies about what the little guy offers 
(besides price) that the big name does not. 
(my .02 insights)

-Original Message-
From: Korosh Afshar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group



We are starting to venture into the orion world cautiously but steadly.

would you care to share any insight on pitfals to watch for or issues to
deal with or anything that might hinder our development effort if not dealt
with upfront?

this could be technical or non-technical issues particular to orion.

any such insight from your students would do much to improve the product and
for us to deal with appropriately.


k.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Van
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:17 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group


To Orion and the people who offer support for this product:

THANK YOU!

My name is Michael Van Geertruy and I am the founder and CEO of the
Annapolis MD Java User Group, JUGerNaut (501-c-4).  For the last 15 weeks
I've been teaching a course in this user group called "Java and the
Internet", using the OrionServer as a teaching platform.  That is, each
participant in the course was required to download a version of Orion at
home, and then use OrionServer for thier work in the course.

I chose Orion Server for a number of reasons.  Most notably:
* It is free for use as a development environment.
* It is a TRUE implementation of the J2EE platform.
* Its CPU footprint is very small.
* It has a robust implementation of servlets.
* It has easy to understand, XML-based configuration files.
* It contains xalen and xerces, which allowed us to touch on XSLT's.

On behalf of the JUGerNaut organization, I would like to thank you for
offering this tool for use in our development environment.  Without it, we
would not have been able to offer this training for FREE (the participants
paid no money to attend the course).  Indeed, many of the participants had
prior experience programming EJB's and commented on how superior your
product implements the J2EE when compared to Sybase, Oracle, and
BEA-Weblogic.

Oral course surveys revealed that the participants in the course felt more
secure with the Java technologies of servlets, JSP's, CMP, and BMP using a
home-grown database-connection-pooling bean.  Additionally, this course
produced an EJB that will be used by a local charity organization (saving
them thousands of dollars in development costs).  Without Orion Server, the
quality of training that we gave and the direct impact this program had on
our community would never have happened.

By offering this training for free to all participants, and by training them
using Orion Server, we are growing EJB specialists in Maryland who are
partial to using Orion Server. This translates to experienced engineers
expressing an affinity for Orion Server in the workplace over other
competing technologies.  I sincerely thank you and your organization for
providing us this invaluable resource.

Thank you,

Michael L. Van
CEO, JUGerNaut
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS.  We are holding a graduation ceremony for this course and others on
March 14, 2001.  After the ceremony, we are offering open enrollment into
JUGerNaut (free) and thus, to a slew of courses we will be offering (free to
all participants).  They are:
Java Programmer Level Certification (13 - 22 weeks)
Java Developer Level Certification (16 weeks)
Java Architect Level Certification (depending on demand)
J2ME (the vm used on embedded systems)
Java Security API (14 weeks)
All co

A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group

2001-02-07 Thread Michael Van

To Orion and the people who offer support for this product:

THANK YOU!

My name is Michael Van Geertruy and I am the founder and CEO of the
Annapolis MD Java User Group, JUGerNaut (501-c-4).  For the last 15 weeks
I've been teaching a course in this user group called "Java and the
Internet", using the OrionServer as a teaching platform.  That is, each
participant in the course was required to download a version of Orion at
home, and then use OrionServer for thier work in the course.

I chose Orion Server for a number of reasons.  Most notably:
* It is free for use as a development environment.
* It is a TRUE implementation of the J2EE platform.
* Its CPU footprint is very small.
* It has a robust implementation of servlets.
* It has easy to understand, XML-based configuration files.
* It contains xalen and xerces, which allowed us to touch on XSLT's.

On behalf of the JUGerNaut organization, I would like to thank you for
offering this tool for use in our development environment.  Without it, we
would not have been able to offer this training for FREE (the participants
paid no money to attend the course).  Indeed, many of the participants had
prior experience programming EJB's and commented on how superior your
product implements the J2EE when compared to Sybase, Oracle, and
BEA-Weblogic.

Oral course surveys revealed that the participants in the course felt more
secure with the Java technologies of servlets, JSP's, CMP, and BMP using a
home-grown database-connection-pooling bean.  Additionally, this course
produced an EJB that will be used by a local charity organization (saving
them thousands of dollars in development costs).  Without Orion Server, the
quality of training that we gave and the direct impact this program had on
our community would never have happened.

By offering this training for free to all participants, and by training them
using Orion Server, we are growing EJB specialists in Maryland who are
partial to using Orion Server. This translates to experienced engineers
expressing an affinity for Orion Server in the workplace over other
competing technologies.  I sincerely thank you and your organization for
providing us this invaluable resource.

Thank you,

Michael L. Van
CEO, JUGerNaut
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS.  We are holding a graduation ceremony for this course and others on
March 14, 2001.  After the ceremony, we are offering open enrollment into
JUGerNaut (free) and thus, to a slew of courses we will be offering (free to
all participants).  They are:
Java Programmer Level Certification (13 - 22 weeks)
Java Developer Level Certification (16 weeks)
Java Architect Level Certification (depending on demand)
J2ME (the vm used on embedded systems)
Java Security API (14 weeks)
All courses use peer instruction (the students use books and a syllabus to
guide them as they study the topics together) and all courses are free to
partipants.  Additionally, we are rolling out a new legal-referral plan to
all members that will help to ensure they will never be "stiffed" on a
contract again.  Please contact me for more information.





RE: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group

2001-02-07 Thread Mike Cannon-Brookes

Is there any chance of getting this course put online so that others outside
of Maryland can benefit? It sounds like you've built something quite unique
as a tutorial that teaches people the basics of servlets, XML/XSLT, EJBs
etc?

(I help run OrionSupport and we'd be happy to put it up / host it there)

It would serve as a nice compliment to the jollem.com tutorials.

-mike

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Van
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 5:17 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: A thank you to Orion from the Annapolis Java User Group


 To Orion and the people who offer support for this product:

 THANK YOU!

 My name is Michael Van Geertruy and I am the founder and CEO of the
 Annapolis MD Java User Group, JUGerNaut (501-c-4).  For the last 15 weeks
 I've been teaching a course in this user group called "Java and the
 Internet", using the OrionServer as a teaching platform.  That is, each
 participant in the course was required to download a version of Orion at
 home, and then use OrionServer for thier work in the course.

 I chose Orion Server for a number of reasons.  Most notably:
 * It is free for use as a development environment.
 * It is a TRUE implementation of the J2EE platform.
 * Its CPU footprint is very small.
 * It has a robust implementation of servlets.
 * It has easy to understand, XML-based configuration files.
 * It contains xalen and xerces, which allowed us to touch on XSLT's.

 On behalf of the JUGerNaut organization, I would like to thank you for
 offering this tool for use in our development environment.  Without it, we
 would not have been able to offer this training for FREE (the participants
 paid no money to attend the course).  Indeed, many of the participants had
 prior experience programming EJB's and commented on how superior your
 product implements the J2EE when compared to Sybase, Oracle, and
 BEA-Weblogic.

 Oral course surveys revealed that the participants in the course felt more
 secure with the Java technologies of servlets, JSP's, CMP, and BMP using a
 home-grown database-connection-pooling bean.  Additionally, this course
 produced an EJB that will be used by a local charity organization (saving
 them thousands of dollars in development costs).  Without Orion
 Server, the
 quality of training that we gave and the direct impact this program had on
 our community would never have happened.

 By offering this training for free to all participants, and by
 training them
 using Orion Server, we are growing EJB specialists in Maryland who are
 partial to using Orion Server. This translates to experienced engineers
 expressing an affinity for Orion Server in the workplace over other
 competing technologies.  I sincerely thank you and your organization for
 providing us this invaluable resource.

 Thank you,

 Michael L. Van
 CEO, JUGerNaut
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 PS.  We are holding a graduation ceremony for this course and others on
 March 14, 2001.  After the ceremony, we are offering open enrollment into
 JUGerNaut (free) and thus, to a slew of courses we will be
 offering (free to
 all participants).  They are:
 Java Programmer Level Certification (13 - 22 weeks)
 Java Developer Level Certification (16 weeks)
 Java Architect Level Certification (depending on demand)
 J2ME (the vm used on embedded systems)
 Java Security API (14 weeks)
 All courses use peer instruction (the students use books and a syllabus to
 guide them as they study the topics together) and all courses are free to
 partipants.  Additionally, we are rolling out a new legal-referral plan to
 all members that will help to ensure they will never be "stiffed" on a
 contract again.  Please contact me for more information.