[osdcmy-public] Re: M$ patent SUDO.. so what now? ( for those who use sudo as their administration tools )
Not just that, lets not hope that they are doing something stupid like, supporting 3 strike law, or support DRM On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 20:10 +0800, E A Faisal wrote: On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: the only way that a software can be patented in malaysia if it is an embedded algorithm in an appliance or gadget. something like if the algorithm becomes part of the circuits. else software patents and business method patents are not recognised in malaysia. Luckily we're not recognising software patent. I strongly oppose software patent. I have no problem with software copyright though. Guess we need to be more vocal in opposing software patent so that policy makers don't make a wrong move to recognising it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: M$ patent SUDO.. so what now? ( for those who use sudo as their administration tools )
su - . Used before sudo. Systems and/or methods are described that enable a user to elevate his or her rights. In one embodiment, these systems and/or methods present a user interface identifying an account having a right to permit a task in response to the task being prohibited based on a user's current account not having that right. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi raja, are you sure? (I'm hoping it is, It'll be one thing our IT decision makers did right... due to oversight or a concious choice ;-) But i remember Red1 mentioning MIMOS wanting to patent their cluster/cloud stuff and I'm thinkg that'll it'll only make sense if Msia support SW Patents... otherwise they hav'nt done their homework at all. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: M$ patent SUDO.. so what now? ( for those who use sudo as their administration tools )
the only way that a software can be patented in malaysia if it is an embedded algorithm in an appliance or gadget. something like if the algorithm becomes part of the circuits. else software patents and business method patents are not recognised in malaysia. malaysia is a member of the international berne convention, and it is the concensus that copyright laws are sufficient to protect software. much like artistic works like books or music. it was neither an oversight nor a concious decision, as software patents are not the norm in the world. the default stand is that software are copyright material. which essentially means we can break any bloody software patent that we want to in this part of the glorious world ;-) including one-click shopping etc. we can do a sudo gui just for the heck of it and put a gpl license to it which disclaim liability against patent claims. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi raja, are you sure? (I'm hoping it is, It'll be one thing our IT decision makers did right... due to oversight or a concious choice ;-) But i remember Red1 mentioning MIMOS wanting to patent their cluster/cloud stuff and I'm thinkg that'll it'll only make sense if Msia support SW Patents... otherwise they hav'nt done their homework at all. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: mujurlah we live in malaysia that is not bound by software patents ! malaysia boleh ! On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Hadi Kamarudin hadikamaru...@gmail.com wrote: what a greedy Microsoft!! On 16 Nov, 09:27, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote: Crap! What now? Guess we need a biometric retinal-scan-based GUI sudo :P On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.comwrote: taken from link sent by Syazwan, TQ dude.. *http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009094923390* http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009094923390 -- # uname -a NetBSD 5.0 NetBSD 5.0 (GENERIC) #0: Sun Apr 26 18:50:08 UTC 2009 bui...@b6.netbsd.org: /home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-RELEASE/i386/200904260229Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: M$ patent SUDO.. so what now? ( for those who use sudo as their administration tools )
Crap! What now? Guess we need a biometric retinal-scan-based GUI sudo :P On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.comwrote: taken from link sent by Syazwan, TQ dude.. *http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009094923390*http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009094923390 -- # uname -a NetBSD 5.0 NetBSD 5.0 (GENERIC) #0: Sun Apr 26 18:50:08 UTC 2009 bui...@b6.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-RELEASE/i386/200904260229Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---