Re: [osg-users] Extensions/State Update Question
Hi
did you call viewer.realize() before attempting to get contextID from it?
Cheers.
20.08.2012, 20:27, Jeremy Moles cubic...@gmail.com:
Hello everyone! I have a bit of a strange question here, so please bear
with me. I'll try to be as descriptive as I possibly can, though I'm
certain I will misuse some terminology.
I am adding support for the NV_path_rendering extension to
OpenSceneGraph. This extension adds a number of new functions to OpenGL
when using an NVidia card which take on the form:
glPath{_function_}NV
http://osgnvpr.googlecode.com
In order to create pointers to these new extension functions, I create
an Extensions object in OSG using the contextID given to me during the
compileGLObjects method of my overridden Drawable class. This works
fine, and the code is running as I expect.
https://code.google.com/p/osgnvpr/source/browse/trunk/src/PathCommands.cpp#45
HOWEVER, this paradigm really only works when I need to call extension
functions associated with an instance (or instances) of my Drawable.
There are other functions in the NV_path_rendering API that simply set
global state, and it is with these functions that I'm having difficulty.
The biggest problem here is that in order to get a pointer to the
Extensions static object, I need a valid GraphicsContext contextID.
However, I've tried a number of methods to obtain one of these, but
every attempt I make actually breaks the entire codebase. I wish I could
explain it better than that...
For example, if I try to use some code like the following:
Windows windows;
viewer.getWindows(window);
cID = windows[0]-getState()-getContextID();
osgNVPR::getNVPRExtensions(cID);
-
...then I seem to get an invalid contextID and all subsequent attempts
to use that contextID (even by OSG itself) won't work. The entire
rendering process seems to be broken in this manner.
If instead I create a Camera::DrawCallback object and use the RenderInfo
there instead, then everything works fine. However, I feel like I'm
grossly misusing a Camera::DrawCallback just to set and unset state...
My question is: if I need to set global state like this once, somewhere
high in the scenegraph, what is the best way--keeping in mind that I
also need a valid contextID in order to access my Extensions functions
per-context?
Thanks!
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Re: [osg-users] Extensions/State Update Question
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 17:55 -0400, Jean-Sébastien Guay wrote:
Hi Jeremy, nice to see you back writing graphics code!
I finally have the time again!
In the past, when I've needed to have a contextID in a custom Drawable,
I've always gotten it from inside my drawable's drawImplementation. IIRC
it gets a State pointer and this contains a valid contextID. Same when
I've needed to create a custom StateAttribute or something, in its
apply() method it gets a State pointer with a valid contextID or
something like that.
So you can have a scheme where you defer doing any initialization until
your first Drawable / StateAttribute needs to be traversed for actual
rendering, and then you get a valid contextID, do your initialization
and further ones will use that since initialization has been done already.
You need to make sure you consider the case where your Drawable /
StateAttribute will be used in multiple contexts. IIRC OSG uses the
BufferedValue to store resources associated with a context, and I used
the same pattern. Again IIRC, there were some order of initialization
issues where I assumed some initialization had been done for a context
before drawing but it hadn't, but that just involved a bit of pretty
simple debugging to get fixed.
Hope this helps,
It does. Your use of the word deferred is really helpful in this, as
it was a deferred approach I was taking and was looking for some
assurance this was an acceptable approach. :)
J-S
On 20/08/2012 12:48 PM, Jeremy Moles wrote:
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 10:44 -0600, Paul Martz wrote:
What you seem to be saying is that you want to set some OpenGL state once
that
applies to all contexts, and not have to set it every frame. AND, you
don't want
to have to add, then remove, a Camera draw callback just to make this
happen).
Is that a good synopsis of the issue?
It's close; I don't actually mind using a Camera draw callback for this
purpose if it's appropriate.
A real summarizing question is: under what conditions is it safe to
query for support of a particular extension? And what is the preferred
API for either fetching or being provided the contextID with which to do
this?
You could keep a bool buffered_value that tells you whether or not you've
set
the initial/global state for that particular context. Initially false,
then set
the global state for a context and flip it to true. Would something like
that help?
-Paul
Certainly, but I'm still stuck on actually SETTING the state in the
first place. :)
On 8/20/2012 10:27 AM, Jeremy Moles wrote:
Hello everyone! I have a bit of a strange question here, so please bear
with me. I'll try to be as descriptive as I possibly can, though I'm
certain I will misuse some terminology.
I am adding support for the NV_path_rendering extension to
OpenSceneGraph. This extension adds a number of new functions to OpenGL
when using an NVidia card which take on the form:
glPath{_function_}NV
http://osgnvpr.googlecode.com
In order to create pointers to these new extension functions, I create
an Extensions object in OSG using the contextID given to me during the
compileGLObjects method of my overridden Drawable class. This works
fine, and the code is running as I expect.
https://code.google.com/p/osgnvpr/source/browse/trunk/src/PathCommands.cpp#45
HOWEVER, this paradigm really only works when I need to call extension
functions associated with an instance (or instances) of my Drawable.
There are other functions in the NV_path_rendering API that simply set
global state, and it is with these functions that I'm having difficulty.
The biggest problem here is that in order to get a pointer to the
Extensions static object, I need a valid GraphicsContext contextID.
However, I've tried a number of methods to obtain one of these, but
every attempt I make actually breaks the entire codebase. I wish I could
explain it better than that...
For example, if I try to use some code like the following:
Windows windows;
viewer.getWindows(window);
cID = windows[0]-getState()-getContextID();
osgNVPR::getNVPRExtensions(cID);
-
...then I seem to get an invalid contextID and all subsequent attempts
to use that contextID (even by OSG itself) won't work. The entire
rendering process seems to be broken in this manner.
If instead I create a Camera::DrawCallback object and use the RenderInfo
there instead, then everything works fine. However, I feel like I'm
grossly misusing a Camera::DrawCallback just to set and unset state...
My question is: if I need to set global state like this once, somewhere
high in the scenegraph, what is the best way--keeping in mind that I
also need a valid contextID in order to access my Extensions functions
per-context?
Thanks!
[osg-users] Extensions/State Update Question
Hello everyone! I have a bit of a strange question here, so please bear
with me. I'll try to be as descriptive as I possibly can, though I'm
certain I will misuse some terminology.
I am adding support for the NV_path_rendering extension to
OpenSceneGraph. This extension adds a number of new functions to OpenGL
when using an NVidia card which take on the form:
glPath{_function_}NV
http://osgnvpr.googlecode.com
In order to create pointers to these new extension functions, I create
an Extensions object in OSG using the contextID given to me during the
compileGLObjects method of my overridden Drawable class. This works
fine, and the code is running as I expect.
https://code.google.com/p/osgnvpr/source/browse/trunk/src/PathCommands.cpp#45
HOWEVER, this paradigm really only works when I need to call extension
functions associated with an instance (or instances) of my Drawable.
There are other functions in the NV_path_rendering API that simply set
global state, and it is with these functions that I'm having difficulty.
The biggest problem here is that in order to get a pointer to the
Extensions static object, I need a valid GraphicsContext contextID.
However, I've tried a number of methods to obtain one of these, but
every attempt I make actually breaks the entire codebase. I wish I could
explain it better than that...
For example, if I try to use some code like the following:
Windows windows;
viewer.getWindows(window);
cID = windows[0]-getState()-getContextID();
osgNVPR::getNVPRExtensions(cID);
-
...then I seem to get an invalid contextID and all subsequent attempts
to use that contextID (even by OSG itself) won't work. The entire
rendering process seems to be broken in this manner.
If instead I create a Camera::DrawCallback object and use the RenderInfo
there instead, then everything works fine. However, I feel like I'm
grossly misusing a Camera::DrawCallback just to set and unset state...
My question is: if I need to set global state like this once, somewhere
high in the scenegraph, what is the best way--keeping in mind that I
also need a valid contextID in order to access my Extensions functions
per-context?
Thanks!
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Re: [osg-users] Extensions/State Update Question
What you seem to be saying is that you want to set some OpenGL state once that
applies to all contexts, and not have to set it every frame. AND, you don't want
to have to add, then remove, a Camera draw callback just to make this happen).
Is that a good synopsis of the issue?
You could keep a bool buffered_value that tells you whether or not you've set
the initial/global state for that particular context. Initially false, then set
the global state for a context and flip it to true. Would something like that help?
-Paul
On 8/20/2012 10:27 AM, Jeremy Moles wrote:
Hello everyone! I have a bit of a strange question here, so please bear
with me. I'll try to be as descriptive as I possibly can, though I'm
certain I will misuse some terminology.
I am adding support for the NV_path_rendering extension to
OpenSceneGraph. This extension adds a number of new functions to OpenGL
when using an NVidia card which take on the form:
glPath{_function_}NV
http://osgnvpr.googlecode.com
In order to create pointers to these new extension functions, I create
an Extensions object in OSG using the contextID given to me during the
compileGLObjects method of my overridden Drawable class. This works
fine, and the code is running as I expect.
https://code.google.com/p/osgnvpr/source/browse/trunk/src/PathCommands.cpp#45
HOWEVER, this paradigm really only works when I need to call extension
functions associated with an instance (or instances) of my Drawable.
There are other functions in the NV_path_rendering API that simply set
global state, and it is with these functions that I'm having difficulty.
The biggest problem here is that in order to get a pointer to the
Extensions static object, I need a valid GraphicsContext contextID.
However, I've tried a number of methods to obtain one of these, but
every attempt I make actually breaks the entire codebase. I wish I could
explain it better than that...
For example, if I try to use some code like the following:
Windows windows;
viewer.getWindows(window);
cID = windows[0]-getState()-getContextID();
osgNVPR::getNVPRExtensions(cID);
-
...then I seem to get an invalid contextID and all subsequent attempts
to use that contextID (even by OSG itself) won't work. The entire
rendering process seems to be broken in this manner.
If instead I create a Camera::DrawCallback object and use the RenderInfo
there instead, then everything works fine. However, I feel like I'm
grossly misusing a Camera::DrawCallback just to set and unset state...
My question is: if I need to set global state like this once, somewhere
high in the scenegraph, what is the best way--keeping in mind that I
also need a valid contextID in order to access my Extensions functions
per-context?
Thanks!
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Re: [osg-users] Extensions/State Update Question
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 10:44 -0600, Paul Martz wrote:
What you seem to be saying is that you want to set some OpenGL state once
that
applies to all contexts, and not have to set it every frame. AND, you don't
want
to have to add, then remove, a Camera draw callback just to make this
happen).
Is that a good synopsis of the issue?
It's close; I don't actually mind using a Camera draw callback for this
purpose if it's appropriate.
A real summarizing question is: under what conditions is it safe to
query for support of a particular extension? And what is the preferred
API for either fetching or being provided the contextID with which to do
this?
You could keep a bool buffered_value that tells you whether or not you've set
the initial/global state for that particular context. Initially false, then
set
the global state for a context and flip it to true. Would something like that
help?
-Paul
Certainly, but I'm still stuck on actually SETTING the state in the
first place. :)
On 8/20/2012 10:27 AM, Jeremy Moles wrote:
Hello everyone! I have a bit of a strange question here, so please bear
with me. I'll try to be as descriptive as I possibly can, though I'm
certain I will misuse some terminology.
I am adding support for the NV_path_rendering extension to
OpenSceneGraph. This extension adds a number of new functions to OpenGL
when using an NVidia card which take on the form:
glPath{_function_}NV
http://osgnvpr.googlecode.com
In order to create pointers to these new extension functions, I create
an Extensions object in OSG using the contextID given to me during the
compileGLObjects method of my overridden Drawable class. This works
fine, and the code is running as I expect.
https://code.google.com/p/osgnvpr/source/browse/trunk/src/PathCommands.cpp#45
HOWEVER, this paradigm really only works when I need to call extension
functions associated with an instance (or instances) of my Drawable.
There are other functions in the NV_path_rendering API that simply set
global state, and it is with these functions that I'm having difficulty.
The biggest problem here is that in order to get a pointer to the
Extensions static object, I need a valid GraphicsContext contextID.
However, I've tried a number of methods to obtain one of these, but
every attempt I make actually breaks the entire codebase. I wish I could
explain it better than that...
For example, if I try to use some code like the following:
Windows windows;
viewer.getWindows(window);
cID = windows[0]-getState()-getContextID();
osgNVPR::getNVPRExtensions(cID);
-
...then I seem to get an invalid contextID and all subsequent attempts
to use that contextID (even by OSG itself) won't work. The entire
rendering process seems to be broken in this manner.
If instead I create a Camera::DrawCallback object and use the RenderInfo
there instead, then everything works fine. However, I feel like I'm
grossly misusing a Camera::DrawCallback just to set and unset state...
My question is: if I need to set global state like this once, somewhere
high in the scenegraph, what is the best way--keeping in mind that I
also need a valid contextID in order to access my Extensions functions
per-context?
Thanks!
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Re: [osg-users] Extensions/State Update Question
Hi Jeremy, nice to see you back writing graphics code!
In the past, when I've needed to have a contextID in a custom Drawable,
I've always gotten it from inside my drawable's drawImplementation. IIRC
it gets a State pointer and this contains a valid contextID. Same when
I've needed to create a custom StateAttribute or something, in its
apply() method it gets a State pointer with a valid contextID or
something like that.
So you can have a scheme where you defer doing any initialization until
your first Drawable / StateAttribute needs to be traversed for actual
rendering, and then you get a valid contextID, do your initialization
and further ones will use that since initialization has been done already.
You need to make sure you consider the case where your Drawable /
StateAttribute will be used in multiple contexts. IIRC OSG uses the
BufferedValue to store resources associated with a context, and I used
the same pattern. Again IIRC, there were some order of initialization
issues where I assumed some initialization had been done for a context
before drawing but it hadn't, but that just involved a bit of pretty
simple debugging to get fixed.
Hope this helps,
J-S
On 20/08/2012 12:48 PM, Jeremy Moles wrote:
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 10:44 -0600, Paul Martz wrote:
What you seem to be saying is that you want to set some OpenGL state once that
applies to all contexts, and not have to set it every frame. AND, you don't want
to have to add, then remove, a Camera draw callback just to make this happen).
Is that a good synopsis of the issue?
It's close; I don't actually mind using a Camera draw callback for this
purpose if it's appropriate.
A real summarizing question is: under what conditions is it safe to
query for support of a particular extension? And what is the preferred
API for either fetching or being provided the contextID with which to do
this?
You could keep a bool buffered_value that tells you whether or not you've set
the initial/global state for that particular context. Initially false, then set
the global state for a context and flip it to true. Would something like that
help?
-Paul
Certainly, but I'm still stuck on actually SETTING the state in the
first place. :)
On 8/20/2012 10:27 AM, Jeremy Moles wrote:
Hello everyone! I have a bit of a strange question here, so please bear
with me. I'll try to be as descriptive as I possibly can, though I'm
certain I will misuse some terminology.
I am adding support for the NV_path_rendering extension to
OpenSceneGraph. This extension adds a number of new functions to OpenGL
when using an NVidia card which take on the form:
glPath{_function_}NV
http://osgnvpr.googlecode.com
In order to create pointers to these new extension functions, I create
an Extensions object in OSG using the contextID given to me during the
compileGLObjects method of my overridden Drawable class. This works
fine, and the code is running as I expect.
https://code.google.com/p/osgnvpr/source/browse/trunk/src/PathCommands.cpp#45
HOWEVER, this paradigm really only works when I need to call extension
functions associated with an instance (or instances) of my Drawable.
There are other functions in the NV_path_rendering API that simply set
global state, and it is with these functions that I'm having difficulty.
The biggest problem here is that in order to get a pointer to the
Extensions static object, I need a valid GraphicsContext contextID.
However, I've tried a number of methods to obtain one of these, but
every attempt I make actually breaks the entire codebase. I wish I could
explain it better than that...
For example, if I try to use some code like the following:
Windows windows;
viewer.getWindows(window);
cID = windows[0]-getState()-getContextID();
osgNVPR::getNVPRExtensions(cID);
-
...then I seem to get an invalid contextID and all subsequent attempts
to use that contextID (even by OSG itself) won't work. The entire
rendering process seems to be broken in this manner.
If instead I create a Camera::DrawCallback object and use the RenderInfo
there instead, then everything works fine. However, I feel like I'm
grossly misusing a Camera::DrawCallback just to set and unset state...
My question is: if I need to set global state like this once, somewhere
high in the scenegraph, what is the best way--keeping in mind that I
also need a valid contextID in order to access my Extensions functions
per-context?
Thanks!
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