Re: [osg-users] Linux ATI driver improvements!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: Hi All, A couple of interesting articles out today about Linux ATI drivers, First up AMD/ATI will now support development of open source drivers: http://news.com.com/AMD+nurtures+open-source+graphics/2100-7344_3-6206581.html Second, new proprietary drivers have been released with much improved performance: http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2007090701626RVHWSW As for quality I can not say without seeing reports for OSG users, but it does at least look like their might be light at the end tunnel, albeit a little way off yet before we're out into the light and AMD/ATI is a real contender for sticking in your Linux boxes. I have just tried to install the new ATI driver on my Thinkpad - no dice, the FireGL series (I have Mobility FireGL T2 in the machine) is not supported in 8.41 at all and X doesn't start with it :( Perhaps next month with 8.42 ... Also, the preliminary reports from Rage3D forums seems to be: OpenGL is faster, but the driver is buggy as hell. Some kind of stabilization could be expected only around 8.42-43 (November?). Regards, Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mandriva - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG6DaYn11XseNj94gRAjM4AKCi6y5DfbKyZcIXHJSd+NBJrJbvhQCgl79Y KAffNFf6w60Tgghot+15OBY= =nukP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Linux ATI driver improvements!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: As for quality I can not say without seeing reports for OSG users, but it does at least look like their might be light at the end tunnel, albeit a little way off yet before we're out into the light and AMD/ATI is a real contender for sticking in your Linux boxes. I have seen this too and I am waiting for the driver to be out to test it on my trusty Thinkpad. Perhaps I will be finally able to use the card there closer to its intended performance (what? only after 4 years after purchase?). However, I am dreading the words about some corruption here and there in the Phoronix articles reviewing it and wondering about the price of stability/bugs we are to pay for all this again :( For example all releases since last May are breaking suspend and crashing my laptop again - after 6 months of relative bug-free experience. I am bit skeptical after the four years with ATI/AMD in my laptop ... On the other hand, if it works it would be a very good news. I will report back once I have it tested. Regards, Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mandriva - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG4ZJIn11XseNj94gRAl5hAKCaG+fTGg9+TOLmkRqpouvM2V4r0gCeOMzr 0hmQLeQHcxqf3shaEu3zQ7Q= =DyZ7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Linux ATI driver improvements!
Indeed, given ATI's past track record on 'supporting' Linux, I'd wait at least three months and see where the dust settles before even contemplating buying an ATI card for my Linux systems. Even then, the ATI card would either have to be much cheaper or have some new whiz-bang absolutely-must-have feature before I switched away from nVidia - nVidia has provided excellent support for their hardware under Linux, so they'd have to royally screw up before I'd switch. That said, if these drivers really are as good as everybody is hoping, it'll make buying a laptop a lot easier, given how prevalent ATI is in the laptop market. Don Jan Ciger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Osfield wrote: As for quality I can not say without seeing reports for OSG users, but it does at least look like their might be light at the end tunnel, albeit a little way off yet before we're out into the light and AMD/ATI is a real contender for sticking in your Linux boxes. I have seen this too and I am waiting for the driver to be out to test it on my trusty Thinkpad. Perhaps I will be finally able to use the card there closer to its intended performance (what? only after 4 years after purchase?). However, I am dreading the words about some corruption here and there in the Phoronix articles reviewing it and wondering about the price of stability/bugs we are to pay for all this again :( For example all releases since last May are breaking suspend and crashing my laptop again - after 6 months of relative bug-free experience. I am bit skeptical after the four years with ATI/AMD in my laptop ... On the other hand, if it works it would be a very good news. I will report back once I have it tested. Regards, Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mandriva - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG4ZJIn11XseNj94gRAl5hAKCaG+fTGg9+TOLmkRqpouvM2V4r0gCeOMzr 0hmQLeQHcxqf3shaEu3zQ7Q= =DyZ7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. - Benjamin Franklin ++ | Don Tidrow| | Visualization Software Engineer | | SAIC | | ph: 703-253-1094 | ++ ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Linux ATI driver improvements!
Donald Tidrow wrote: That said, if these drivers really are as good as everybody is hoping, it'll make buying a laptop a lot easier, given how prevalent ATI is in the laptop market. Speaking of which, can anyone recommend a good Linux/nvidia laptop? It seems like most of the laptop you get nowadays are either ATI or intel... ./ulrich ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Linux ATI driver improvements!
Ulrich Hertlein wrote: Speaking of which, can anyone recommend a good Linux/nvidia laptop? It seems like most of the laptop you get nowadays are either ATI or intel... I use a Dell Precision M90, and love it. You get a choice of nVidia mobile Quadro cards. The new Vostro's look pretty cool too. The 1700 comes with a GeForce 8600M GT. ./ulrich ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- --J I'm a castaway stranded in a desolate land, I can see the footprints in the virtual sand. --Neil Peart ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Linux ATI driver improvements!
I use the last macbook pro with nvidia 8600 and dual core 2 2.4 nice look and good hardware Cedric Jason Daly wrote: Ulrich Hertlein wrote: Speaking of which, can anyone recommend a good Linux/nvidia laptop? It seems like most of the laptop you get nowadays are either ATI or intel... I use a Dell Precision M90, and love it. You get a choice of nVidia mobile Quadro cards. The new Vostro's look pretty cool too. The 1700 comes with a GeForce 8600M GT. ./ulrich ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- --J I'm a castaway stranded in a desolate land, I can see the footprints in the virtual sand. --Neil Peart ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org