Re: [osg-users] Linux ATI driver improvements!

2007-09-12 Thread Jan Ciger
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Robert Osfield wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 A couple of interesting articles out today about Linux ATI drivers,
 
 First up AMD/ATI will now support development of open source drivers:
 
 http://news.com.com/AMD+nurtures+open-source+graphics/2100-7344_3-6206581.html
 
 Second, new proprietary drivers have been released with much improved
 performance:
 
 http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2007090701626RVHWSW
 
 As for quality I can not say without seeing reports for OSG users, but
 it does at least look like their might be light at the end tunnel,
 albeit a little way off yet before we're out into the light and
 AMD/ATI is a real contender for sticking in your Linux boxes.
 

I have just tried to install the new ATI driver on my Thinkpad - no
dice, the FireGL series (I have Mobility FireGL T2 in the machine) is
not supported in 8.41 at all and X doesn't start with it :( Perhaps next
month with 8.42 ...

Also, the preliminary reports from Rage3D forums seems to be: OpenGL is
faster, but the driver is buggy as hell. Some kind of stabilization
could be expected only around 8.42-43 (November?).

Regards,

Jan
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Re: [osg-users] Linux ATI driver improvements!

2007-09-07 Thread Jan Ciger
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Robert Osfield wrote:
 
 As for quality I can not say without seeing reports for OSG users, but
 it does at least look like their might be light at the end tunnel,
 albeit a little way off yet before we're out into the light and
 AMD/ATI is a real contender for sticking in your Linux boxes.

I have seen this too and I am waiting for the driver to be out to test
it on my trusty Thinkpad. Perhaps I will be finally able to use the card
there closer to its intended performance (what? only after 4 years after
purchase?). However, I am dreading the words about some corruption here
and there in the Phoronix articles reviewing it and wondering about the
price of stability/bugs we are to pay for all this again :( For example
all releases since last May are breaking suspend and crashing my laptop
again - after 6 months of relative bug-free experience.

I am bit skeptical after the four years with ATI/AMD in my laptop ... On
the other hand, if it works it would be a very good news. I will report
back once I have it tested.

Regards,

Jan

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Re: [osg-users] Linux ATI driver improvements!

2007-09-07 Thread Donald Tidrow
Indeed, given ATI's past track record on 'supporting' Linux, I'd wait at 
least three months and see where the dust settles before even 
contemplating buying an ATI card for my Linux systems.  Even then, the 
ATI card would either have to be much cheaper or have some new whiz-bang 
absolutely-must-have feature before I switched away from nVidia - nVidia 
has provided excellent support for their hardware under Linux, so they'd 
have to royally screw up before I'd switch.

That said, if these drivers really are as good as everybody is hoping, 
it'll make buying a laptop a lot easier, given how prevalent ATI is in 
the laptop market.

Don

Jan Ciger wrote:
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 Robert Osfield wrote:
 
As for quality I can not say without seeing reports for OSG users, but
it does at least look like their might be light at the end tunnel,
albeit a little way off yet before we're out into the light and
AMD/ATI is a real contender for sticking in your Linux boxes.
 
 
 I have seen this too and I am waiting for the driver to be out to test
 it on my trusty Thinkpad. Perhaps I will be finally able to use the card
 there closer to its intended performance (what? only after 4 years after
 purchase?). However, I am dreading the words about some corruption here
 and there in the Phoronix articles reviewing it and wondering about the
 price of stability/bugs we are to pay for all this again :( For example
 all releases since last May are breaking suspend and crashing my laptop
 again - after 6 months of relative bug-free experience.
 
 I am bit skeptical after the four years with ATI/AMD in my laptop ... On
 the other hand, if it works it would be a very good news. I will report
 back once I have it tested.
 
 Regards,
 
 Jan
 
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Re: [osg-users] Linux ATI driver improvements!

2007-09-07 Thread Ulrich Hertlein
Donald Tidrow wrote:
 That said, if these drivers really are as good as everybody is hoping, 
 it'll make buying a laptop a lot easier, given how prevalent ATI is in 
 the laptop market.

Speaking of which, can anyone recommend a good Linux/nvidia laptop?
It seems like most of the laptop you get nowadays are either ATI or intel...

./ulrich

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Re: [osg-users] Linux ATI driver improvements!

2007-09-07 Thread Jason Daly

Ulrich Hertlein wrote:


Speaking of which, can anyone recommend a good Linux/nvidia laptop?
It seems like most of the laptop you get nowadays are either ATI or intel...
  


I use a Dell Precision M90, and love it.  You get a choice of nVidia 
mobile Quadro cards.  The new Vostro's look pretty cool too.  The 1700 
comes with a GeForce 8600M GT.

./ulrich

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Re: [osg-users] Linux ATI driver improvements!

2007-09-07 Thread Cedric Pinson
I use the last macbook pro with nvidia 8600 and dual core 2 2.4
nice look and good hardware

Cedric

Jason Daly wrote:
 Ulrich Hertlein wrote:

 Speaking of which, can anyone recommend a good Linux/nvidia laptop?
 It seems like most of the laptop you get nowadays are either ATI or intel...
   

 I use a Dell Precision M90, and love it.  You get a choice of nVidia 
 mobile Quadro cards.  The new Vostro's look pretty cool too.  The 1700 
 comes with a GeForce 8600M GT.
 ./ulrich

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