Re: [OSList] Open Spaces research

[Jeff Aitken via OSList]

Bryan,

I'm also now involved in a conversation about academic programs
teaching and being designed along the lines of participatory
methodologies. It's happening in the Facebook group of the Art of
Hosting, which is a worldwide learning community using participatory
practices and methodologies including Open Space and allied work. It's
an introductory conversation but may interest you and anyone else on
the OSLIST. I'm happy to talk offline as well.

Jeff



On 11/13/14, Jeff Aitken  wrote:
> Greetings Bryan.
>
> There are some collected resources on OST research papers on the Open
> Space World website. At least those that were found a few years ago.
> http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?ResearchActivities
>
> I see on your website your work with the Society for the Anthropology
> of Consciousness. Dr. Jurgen Kremer chaired my humanities dissertation
> on OST which is listed above. It was not the most rigorous empirical
> inquiry, but an Organic Inquiry wide ranging around indigenous
> worldviews and the roots and practice of OST. I'd welcome a
> conversation.
>
> Jeff Aitken
> Lagunitas, California
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/13/14, Bryan Rill via OSList  wrote:
>> Dear Harrison and other Open Spacers,
>>
>> I would like introduce myself and make a request regarding research into
>> the
>> efficacy of Open Spaces.
>>
>> My name is Bryan, and I recently founded the Co-Creation Institute at the
>> Hong Kong Polytechnic University. CCI, as we call it here, is a space to
>> facilitate personal and organizational transformation, with a strong base
>> in
>> presence and reflective dialogue. Our objective is to create new cultures
>> of
>> innovation that combine interactive environments with co-creative
>> facilitation. I invite you to explore our program, but more importantly I
>> would like to know more about existing research. Co-Creation and presence
>> training will benefit from empirical research, and I am now looking for
>> related research projects to inspect the methodology, issues raised, and
>> future directions that we may push.
>>
>> Open Spaces integrates many of the principles that we draw inspiration
>> from,
>> and I am planning on implementing it as a framework within CCI. While I
>> have
>> read many discussions and the text on Open spaces, I would like to find
>> out
>> more about how others have conducted research. If anyone has such
>> information, please contact me any time. Our program would benefit from
>> your
>> experience.
>>
>>
>> Kindest Regards,
>>
>> Bryan Rill, PhD
>> Director, Co-Creation Institute
>> Hong Kong Polytechnic University
>> School of Design
>> brr...@polyu.edu.hk
>> www.co-creationinstitute.com
>
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Re: [OSList] Open Spaces research

[Jeff Aitken via OSList]

Here's the link (request permission to join the group)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/artofhosting/

Jeff

On 11/13/14, Jeff Aitken  wrote:
> Bryan,
>
> I'm also now involved in a conversation about academic programs
> teaching and being designed along the lines of participatory
> methodologies. It's happening in the Facebook group of the Art of
> Hosting, which is a worldwide learning community using participatory
> practices and methodologies including Open Space and allied work. It's
> an introductory conversation but may interest you and anyone else on
> the OSLIST. I'm happy to talk offline as well.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> On 11/13/14, Jeff Aitken  wrote:
>> Greetings Bryan.
>>
>> There are some collected resources on OST research papers on the Open
>> Space World website. At least those that were found a few years ago.
>> http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?ResearchActivities
>>
>> I see on your website your work with the Society for the Anthropology
>> of Consciousness. Dr. Jurgen Kremer chaired my humanities dissertation
>> on OST which is listed above. It was not the most rigorous empirical
>> inquiry, but an Organic Inquiry wide ranging around indigenous
>> worldviews and the roots and practice of OST. I'd welcome a
>> conversation.
>>
>> Jeff Aitken
>> Lagunitas, California
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/13/14, Bryan Rill via OSList 
>> wrote:
>>> Dear Harrison and other Open Spacers,
>>>
>>> I would like introduce myself and make a request regarding research into
>>> the
>>> efficacy of Open Spaces.
>>>
>>> My name is Bryan, and I recently founded the Co-Creation Institute at
>>> the
>>> Hong Kong Polytechnic University. CCI, as we call it here, is a space to
>>> facilitate personal and organizational transformation, with a strong
>>> base
>>> in
>>> presence and reflective dialogue. Our objective is to create new
>>> cultures
>>> of
>>> innovation that combine interactive environments with co-creative
>>> facilitation. I invite you to explore our program, but more importantly
>>> I
>>> would like to know more about existing research. Co-Creation and
>>> presence
>>> training will benefit from empirical research, and I am now looking for
>>> related research projects to inspect the methodology, issues raised, and
>>> future directions that we may push.
>>>
>>> Open Spaces integrates many of the principles that we draw inspiration
>>> from,
>>> and I am planning on implementing it as a framework within CCI. While I
>>> have
>>> read many discussions and the text on Open spaces, I would like to find
>>> out
>>> more about how others have conducted research. If anyone has such
>>> information, please contact me any time. Our program would benefit from
>>> your
>>> experience.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>
>>> Bryan Rill, PhD
>>> Director, Co-Creation Institute
>>> Hong Kong Polytechnic University
>>> School of Design
>>> brr...@polyu.edu.hk
>>> www.co-creationinstitute.com
>>
>
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Re: [OSList] Open Spaces research

[Jeff Aitken via OSList]

Greetings Bryan.

There are some collected resources on OST research papers on the Open
Space World website. At least those that were found a few years ago.
http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?ResearchActivities

I see on your website your work with the Society for the Anthropology
of Consciousness. Dr. Jurgen Kremer chaired my humanities dissertation
on OST which is listed above. It was not the most rigorous empirical
inquiry, but an Organic Inquiry wide ranging around indigenous
worldviews and the roots and practice of OST. I'd welcome a
conversation.

Jeff Aitken
Lagunitas, California





On 11/13/14, Bryan Rill via OSList  wrote:
> Dear Harrison and other Open Spacers,
>
> I would like introduce myself and make a request regarding research into the
> efficacy of Open Spaces.
>
> My name is Bryan, and I recently founded the Co-Creation Institute at the
> Hong Kong Polytechnic University. CCI, as we call it here, is a space to
> facilitate personal and organizational transformation, with a strong base in
> presence and reflective dialogue. Our objective is to create new cultures of
> innovation that combine interactive environments with co-creative
> facilitation. I invite you to explore our program, but more importantly I
> would like to know more about existing research. Co-Creation and presence
> training will benefit from empirical research, and I am now looking for
> related research projects to inspect the methodology, issues raised, and
> future directions that we may push.
>
> Open Spaces integrates many of the principles that we draw inspiration from,
> and I am planning on implementing it as a framework within CCI. While I have
> read many discussions and the text on Open spaces, I would like to find out
> more about how others have conducted research. If anyone has such
> information, please contact me any time. Our program would benefit from your
> experience.
>
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Bryan Rill, PhD
> Director, Co-Creation Institute
> Hong Kong Polytechnic University
> School of Design
> brr...@polyu.edu.hk
> www.co-creationinstitute.com
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[OSList] Open Spaces research

[Bryan Rill via OSList]

Dear Harrison and other Open Spacers,

I would like introduce myself and make a request regarding research into the 
efficacy of Open Spaces. 

My name is Bryan, and I recently founded the Co-Creation Institute at the Hong 
Kong Polytechnic University. CCI, as we call it here, is a space to facilitate 
personal and organizational transformation, with a strong base in presence and 
reflective dialogue. Our objective is to create new cultures of innovation that 
combine interactive environments with co-creative facilitation. I invite you to 
explore our program, but more importantly I would like to know more about 
existing research. Co-Creation and presence training will benefit from 
empirical research, and I am now looking for related research projects to 
inspect the methodology, issues raised, and future directions that we may push. 

Open Spaces integrates many of the principles that we draw inspiration from, 
and I am planning on implementing it as a framework within CCI. While I have 
read many discussions and the text on Open spaces, I would like to find out 
more about how others have conducted research. If anyone has such information, 
please contact me any time. Our program would benefit from your experience. 


Kindest Regards,

Bryan Rill, PhD
Director, Co-Creation Institute
Hong Kong Polytechnic University
School of Design
brr...@polyu.edu.hk
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Re: [OSList] Fwd: Guerilla Open Space?

[Diana Larsen via OSList]

Hi John, 

In my experience, trying to hold a full-on open space conference in parallel 
with a "prescriptive" (like that term) conference often has 
less-than-satisfying results. Several times I've been persuaded to do such a 
thing, and over the years I've agreed. This year, I've helped to organize such 
OSs for two such conferences - all very technical in nature. But not before 
having a serious, focused conversation with the sponsor about likely outcomes. 
Usually they've had past participants ask for it and don't really know what 
they have requested. So it's a great opportunity to help new folks learn about 
it, and they rarely get to experience the real power that they could tap into. 

We've had an opening circle, a marketplace, morning announcements and evening 
new all the days. Even so, attendance is usually spotty, new people don't "get 
it", etc. People who are familiar with and like Open Space conferences usually 
show up and talk to others like themselves, so it serves for them. In one such 
conference, the OS ballroom was located around a corner and down a long hallway 
from the "prescriptive" sessions, so I spent most of my time holding space 
there alone. It works a little better when the OS space is more centrally 
located within the conference, so people can wander by. 

So far, none have been as satisfying for me or the participants as an Open 
Space only event. 

I'd never run the two in parallel if there was specific work to be 
accomplished, like within an organization as a large group method for planning 
or for responding to a crisis. Only when the participants are there in an 
exploratory mode and don't need to find particular collective outcomes beyond 
the event. 

At the Agile 20xx conferences, I think the Open Jam works precisely because 
it's not what most of us might consider a "real" open space event. More an 
explicit recognition that the space is always open and support for those who 
will take advantage of it. 

Diana

 
**
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Envisioning a world where everyone at every level of the organization can say, 
"I love my work; this is the best job EVER!"


On Nov 12, 2014, at 9:46 PM, John Baxter via OSList 
 wrote:

> So where are all the examples of failures to open space against the tide?  
> Who has those?
> They're the ones we can really learn from...
> 
> 
> A couple come to mind, essentially the same, not quite failure, but 
> non-events at least, that reflect the story that I mentioned earlier...
> 
> A small handful of people were fed up with a prescriptive gathering 
> mostly as a sense of lost potential.
> Opportunity was taken to raise this concern with the whole group.
> The organisers tweaked somewhat in response, but ultimately in a way that did 
> little to address the confines of the format. (In both cases, the organisers 
> had planned in 'open space' working time towards the end of the event.)  That 
> absorbed the energy for rebellion.  And in fact it meant those groups of 
> dissidents spent more time sharing frustrations in what little space we could 
> find, than actually getting down to work as we so desired.
> 
> What didn't work
> a. Raising dissent about the formal structure without either a concrete plan 
> of action, or sufficient space for a group to self-organise to create one... 
> And also when most fellow participants are probably quite happy with the 
> status quo.   (Reflecting on this thread, perhaps the better response would 
> have been focusing not on changing the existing structure, but on extending 
> an invitation to others from the group to work within the gaps of that 
> structure to have the conversations that mattered.)
> 
> b. Tacking on a little bit of open space (1-3 hours) to the end of a 
> prescriptive gathering.  We know this is a bad idea, but it is interesting 
> how this then absorbs the energy for self organisation.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John Baxter
> Cocreation Consultant & ​Co​Create Adelaide Facilitator
> jsbaxter.com.au | CoCreateADL.com
> 0405 447 829​ | ​@jsbaxter_
> 
> Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City 
> Grill!
> Summary and links: cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Suzanne Daigle  wrote:
> John, some years ago I opened space in the middle of a 3 day conference. 
> National Alliance of Arts and Culture... 350 people in a fancy hotel in 
> Boston. No possibility of creating circle of chairs but at least we had a 
> market place wall. I opened the space by inviting people to create a circle 
> in their mind. Quite surprising that it all worked. People were in their 
> sessions within the hour, super engrossed to the point where many skipped 
> lunch.Topics got added over the course of the conference. Breakouts 
> self-organized in unusual places with notes posted on walls to meet at the 
> bar or at breakfast. Was not ideal but it seemed to work
> Enough that

Re: [OSList] Open Space by the book?

[paul levy via OSList]

The problem with sticking with things is you might just end up stuck.

Ho hum.

Paul Levy




On 13 Nov 2014, at 18:14, Harrison Owen via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

Open Space, in its “original” form is sparse simplicity to say the least.
Ten to fifteen minutes introduction, and it is off the races, or in my
case, off to take a nap. The evolution of this format followed a simple
dictum: “Think of one more thing NOT to do.” Over time in my practice I
simply removed one more element. The first to go were so called, “warm up
exercises.” But it went down from there. My surprise was that the less I
did, the better it got... which seemed to be the exact opposite of many of
my colleagues’ experience with the methods and approaches they had created.
Their simple guide books gave way to 400 page Manuals with additions and
extensions. Of course, there were times when people remarked to me that OS
was so simple it couldn’t possibly work. But it did. Simply sit in a
circle, create a bulletin board, acknowledge the 5 principles and the Law –
and Go to Work! That’s it. That’s all.



I confess that I do love elegant simplicity, and so there is a large part
of me that would stick with the “original” for that reason alone. To this
may be added the fact that this “elegant simplicity” apparently violated
essentially all the principles and practices of management that I knew
about. To some extent this was a source of no small amount of
embarrassment, for after all when what you see, do, and think is at odds
with the Received Wisdom there are obvious questions about your grasp of
reality. But, the disparity between what I was witnessing and what  (I was
told) I should be experiencing has led to a marvelous quest into the
strange new world of self organizing systems. Rich and rewarding indeed.



Now it seems that the world is changing (or at least our perception of that
world) such that the strange environment of self organization is no longer
so strange. What appeared odd, counter-intuitive, impossible is now almost
mainstream. Not quite but getting there. And if so, perhaps it is now time
to let go of that old “elegant simplicity” in all of its appealing
purity... and plunge into the marvelous world of combinations and
permutations. And why not? It could be a lot of fun.



I can see the possibilities, but I doubt seriously I would change. Senile
sentimentality for sure, AND I actually have another concern which I think
may be determinative. I suspect that OST (simple version) may be the best
Training Program going when it comes to the introduction of folks to the
High Arts of navigating a self organizing world. And best of all it is
Experiential Learning from the start. Training and Doing are absolutely
united. It is not talking about self organization it is being intentionally
in that mode. And any added complexity/parallel program will tend to
obscure the central mind bending fact – It’s happening all by itself.



We have talked about this “ training” function before, usually under the
heading of Chris Corrigan’s notion of Training Wheels. That is definitely
good start, but only a start. We can do more, and it could be a real kick.



So I plan to stick with the original – with the hope and intent that lots
of new people will drop by to experience the incredible, productive freedom
of losing control, and then come to understand that it is actually their
birthright. They only have to claim it.



Harrison







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[OSList] Open Space by the book?

[Harrison Owen via OSList]

Open Space, in its "original" form is sparse simplicity to say the least.
Ten to fifteen minutes introduction, and it is off the races, or in my case,
off to take a nap. The evolution of this format followed a simple dictum:
"Think of one more thing NOT to do." Over time in my practice I simply
removed one more element. The first to go were so called, "warm up
exercises." But it went down from there. My surprise was that the less I
did, the better it got... which seemed to be the exact opposite of many of
my colleagues' experience with the methods and approaches they had created.
Their simple guide books gave way to 400 page Manuals with additions and
extensions. Of course, there were times when people remarked to me that OS
was so simple it couldn't possibly work. But it did. Simply sit in a circle,
create a bulletin board, acknowledge the 5 principles and the Law - and Go
to Work! That's it. That's all.

 

I confess that I do love elegant simplicity, and so there is a large part of
me that would stick with the "original" for that reason alone. To this may
be added the fact that this "elegant simplicity" apparently violated
essentially all the principles and practices of management that I knew
about. To some extent this was a source of no small amount of embarrassment,
for after all when what you see, do, and think is at odds with the Received
Wisdom there are obvious questions about your grasp of reality. But, the
disparity between what I was witnessing and what  (I was told) I should be
experiencing has led to a marvelous quest into the strange new world of self
organizing systems. Rich and rewarding indeed.

 

Now it seems that the world is changing (or at least our perception of that
world) such that the strange environment of self organization is no longer
so strange. What appeared odd, counter-intuitive, impossible is now almost
mainstream. Not quite but getting there. And if so, perhaps it is now time
to let go of that old "elegant simplicity" in all of its appealing purity...
and plunge into the marvelous world of combinations and permutations. And
why not? It could be a lot of fun.

 

I can see the possibilities, but I doubt seriously I would change. Senile
sentimentality for sure, AND I actually have another concern which I think
may be determinative. I suspect that OST (simple version) may be the best
Training Program going when it comes to the introduction of folks to the
High Arts of navigating a self organizing world. And best of all it is
Experiential Learning from the start. Training and Doing are absolutely
united. It is not talking about self organization it is being intentionally
in that mode. And any added complexity/parallel program will tend to obscure
the central mind bending fact - It's happening all by itself. 

 

We have talked about this " training" function before, usually under the
heading of Chris Corrigan's notion of Training Wheels. That is definitely
good start, but only a start. We can do more, and it could be a real kick. 

 

So I plan to stick with the original - with the hope and intent that lots of
new people will drop by to experience the incredible, productive freedom of
losing control, and then come to understand that it is actually their
birthright. They only have to claim it.

 

Harrison

 

 

 

Winter Address

7808 River Falls Drive

Potomac, MD 20854

301-365-2093

 

Summer Address

189 Beaucaire Ave.

Camden, ME 04843

207-763-3261

 

Websites

www.openspaceworld.com

www.ho-image.com

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Re: [OSList] How to escape education's death valley

[Manuel Marrese via OSList]

​Wonderful! Thanks a lot for your comments!!

Dan, Outdoctrination is just great! there's so much in that little
experiment. Brilliant!

Tricia, if you start doing something around such things count me in :)

Manuel

2014-11-13 16:03 GMT+01:00 Royle, Karl via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:

>  You might also be interested in Jesse Schell’s take on ugly beautiful
> education…  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tg55pdNMxw
>
>  There’s also a guy call Zhao who makes a lot of sense
>
>  Best Karl
>
>   Karl Royle
>
> Centre for Development and Applied Research in Education
> Faculty of Education Health and Wellbeing
> Walsall Campus
> Gorway Road
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>   From: Tricia Chirumbole via OSList 
> Reply-To: Tricia Chirumbole , World
> wide Open Space Technology email list 
> Date: Thursday, 13 November 2014 14:53
> To: Daniel Mezick , World wide Open Space Technology
> email list 
> Subject: Re: [OSList] How to escape education's death valley
>
>   Manuel,
>
>  Thanks for sharing - I am totally with you! Love Ken Robinson's message
> and once I found Open Space so an immediate connection!
>
>  Do a google for "unschooling" and you will see some open space education
> in action ;)
>
>  For another like-minded perspective, check out John Taylor Gatto's book, *
> Underground History of American Education
> * 
> -
> I suspect it would apply to many other "modern" countries:)
>
>  I am a huge proponent of bringing this mentality to education and hope
> to do something with this in one of my lifetimes :)
>
>
>
>  Tricia Chirumbole
> US: +1-571-232-0942
> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Manuel,
>>
>> Yes, and you may have seen the "hole in the wall" video, where kids in
>> slums in India self-organize around learning, without any supervision at
>> all. "Explainer" roles emerge, and the thing advances beautifully. Without
>> any adults(TED talk...)
>>
>> http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves?language=en
>>
>> The title of the talk is "Outdoctrination", skip to 6:30 it gets really
>> good there.
>>
>> See also: a confirmation of "High Play"
>>
>> http://www.life.ca/lifelearning/1006/curriculum_of_play_by_John_Taylor_Gatto.htm
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On 11/13/14 3:28 AM, Manuel Marrese via OSList wrote:
>>
>>   Folks,
>>
>>  for those of you who don't know Ken Robinson I'd like to invite you to
>> take some time on this video ​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX78iKhInsc.
>> I see lots of connections with open space and the kind of reasoning going
>> on in this group.
>>
>>  To tell you my person opinion, I am so much into Open space that I would
>> push the education system even further, where children could apply the law
>> of two feet beautifully and creatively and let them go where their
>> interests push them. But I guess we have to wait a bit more for that.
>>
>>  Anyway there is some good thoughts about control and learning that are
>> worth listening to. and most of all it's fun. enjoy it!
>>
>>  manuel
>>
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Re: [OSList] Fwd: Guerilla Open Space?

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John – I’m not sure there is an “official story” (“the Official Story that Open 
Space doesn't work in parallel.”) But if so, I guess I am the guilty party. At 
least that is what I wrote in  “The User’s Guide.” Anyhow... nothing 
doctrinaire about it, but that had been my experience, and I think the 
experience of a number of others. Every time there was an “official program” 
and an “Open Space Program run in parallel, the Open Space just seemed to lack 
energy and impact. That’s just the way it was. Now however, it seems that 
parallelism does work, which leads to the question, Why? I think the answer 
might be something like this. In those situations I referred to it is clear to 
me (retrospectively) that the sponsors were trying to hedge their bet, or I 
might say “do a little bit of Open Space.” Whenever that happens you typically 
end up with all form and no substance. Which is to say you have the formal 
opening with nothing real following. The key is there is no genuine passion or 
commitment. Just going through the motions. In the occasions just reported, I 
think we have something quite different. There really is a commitment on the 
part of sponsors and participants to use the space. Some (like Harold) even 
find it to be the best part.

 

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Thank you everyone for your examples... I love the demonstrations of Open Space 
incorporated symbiotically into the structure of a more formal event.  It is 
making me rethink what is possible with gatherings... there is strong pressure 
to have prescriptive formal structures even when everyone agrees that open 
space is really needed... so I very much like the idea of generative symbiotic 
combinations.

 

I'm curious about the Official Story that Open Space doesn't work in parallel.  
Can anyone speak to that?

 

I look at Open Space Technology in this context as an attempt to bring open 
space from the background or the cracks of a prescriptive structure, into the 
foreground.  So it should not be surprising at all that those cracks can be 
expanded and built upon with OST??

 

Thanks




 

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On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
 wrote:

The Open Jam events at the Agile 20xx conferences have increasingly been the 
place where (at least in my opinion) the cool things happen. Even though the 
official story is that Open Space doesn't work in parallel, and I've definitely 
seen it work horribly in a software conference attempting to put OST in 
parallel - the Agile Software community seems to really enjoy hanging out in 
this space and holding interesting sessions on the fringes of a very well 
populated main track. Even though it's not "official OST", it's very Open Space 
like.

Thanks to the Agile 20xx conference folks, and to you Diane, for having this as 
a constant feature in my Agile 20xx experience!

Regards,
Harold





On 11/12/14 3:16 PM, Diana Larsen via OSList wrote:

One more story:  

 

Since 2008,, every year at the Agile 20xx conference there has been an area 
called "Open Jam" (in homage to a now defunct Music Festival analogy). It's 
usually prominently located near the main traffic patterns of the conference 
and arranged with a variety of sub-areas variously décor-ed with chairs of 
different kinds, some tables, some not, flip charts, markers and other supplies 
for easy access, etc. 

 

The "Open Jam" offers an opportunity each morning of the five-day conference to 
propose new, not-on-the-formal-program sessions that will run throughout the 
day. It's right out in the Open, not sub rosa at all, and for some attendees, 
it's the best part of the conference. Every year different folks step up to 
organize it with a very light touch.

 

Beyond the Open Jam, the conference organizers work with the new venue to 
emphasize the importance of a variety of seating + small conversation areas 
throughout the facility. People use them a lot, and at some times of day it can 
be hard to find a free one.  

 

It's an acknowledgement of th

Re: [OSList] How to escape education's death valley

[Royle, Karl via OSList]

You might also be interested in Jesse Schell’s take on ugly beautiful 
education…  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tg55pdNMxw

There’s also a guy call Zhao who makes a lot of sense

Best Karl

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Subject: Re: [OSList] How to escape education's death valley

Manuel,

Thanks for sharing - I am totally with you! Love Ken Robinson's message and 
once I found Open Space so an immediate connection!

Do a google for "unschooling" and you will see some open space education in 
action ;)

For another like-minded perspective, check out John Taylor Gatto's book, 
Underground History of American 
Education
 - I suspect it would apply to many other "modern" countries:)

I am a huge proponent of bringing this mentality to education and hope to do 
something with this in one of my lifetimes :)



Tricia Chirumbole
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Skype: tricia.chirumbole


On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
Manuel,

Yes, and you may have seen the "hole in the wall" video, where kids in slums in 
India self-organize around learning, without any supervision at all. 
"Explainer" roles emerge, and the thing advances beautifully. Without any 
adults(TED talk...)
http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves?language=en

The title of the talk is "Outdoctrination", skip to 6:30 it gets really good 
there.

See also: a confirmation of "High Play"
http://www.life.ca/lifelearning/1006/curriculum_of_play_by_John_Taylor_Gatto.htm

Daniel


On 11/13/14 3:28 AM, Manuel Marrese via OSList wrote:
Folks,

for those of you who don't know Ken Robinson I'd like to invite you to take 
some time on this video ​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX78iKhInsc. I see 
lots of connections with open space and the kind of reasoning going on in this 
group.

To tell you my person opinion, I am so much into Open space that I would push 
the education system even further, where children could apply the law of two 
feet beautifully and creatively and let them go where their interests push 
them. But I guess we have to wait a bit more for that.

Anyway there is some good thoughts about control and learning that are worth 
listening to. and most of all it's fun. enjoy it!

manuel

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Re: [OSList] How to escape education's death valley

[Tricia Chirumbole via OSList]

Manuel,

Thanks for sharing - I am totally with you! Love Ken Robinson's message and
once I found Open Space so an immediate connection!

Do a google for "unschooling" and you will see some open space education in
action ;)

For another like-minded perspective, check out John Taylor Gatto's
book, *Underground
History of American Education
* -
I suspect it would apply to many other "modern" countries:)

I am a huge proponent of bringing this mentality to education and hope to
do something with this in one of my lifetimes :)



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Skype: tricia.chirumbole


On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

>  Manuel,
>
> Yes, and you may have seen the "hole in the wall" video, where kids in
> slums in India self-organize around learning, without any supervision at
> all. "Explainer" roles emerge, and the thing advances beautifully. Without
> any adults(TED talk...)
>
> http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves?language=en
>
> The title of the talk is "Outdoctrination", skip to 6:30 it gets really
> good there.
>
> See also: a confirmation of "High Play"
>
> http://www.life.ca/lifelearning/1006/curriculum_of_play_by_John_Taylor_Gatto.htm
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On 11/13/14 3:28 AM, Manuel Marrese via OSList wrote:
>
>  Folks,
>
> for those of you who don't know Ken Robinson I'd like to invite you to
> take some time on this video ​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX78iKhInsc.
> I see lots of connections with open space and the kind of reasoning going
> on in this group.
>
> To tell you my person opinion, I am so much into Open space that I would
> push the education system even further, where children could apply the law
> of two feet beautifully and creatively and let them go where their
> interests push them. But I guess we have to wait a bit more for that.
>
> Anyway there is some good thoughts about control and learning that are
> worth listening to. and most of all it's fun. enjoy it!
>
> manuel
>
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Re: [OSList] Fwd: Guerilla Open Space?

[Daniel Mezick via OSList]

Hi John,

I wonder what kind of group your report of the [prescriptive gathering] 
is describing.


I wonder if it is:

 * an open-to-the-public event; like a conference, or
 * a community-type gathering; like people in a community of practice,  or
 * an event inside a business org, like a corporation.


Regards,
Daniel


On 11/13/14 12:46 AM, John Baxter via OSList wrote:
So where are all the examples of failures to open space against the 
tide?  Who has those?

They're the ones we can really learn from...


A couple come to mind, essentially the same, not quite failure, but 
non-events at least, that reflect the story that I mentioned earlier...


A small handful of people were fed up with a prescriptive 
gathering mostly as a sense of lost potential.

Opportunity was taken to raise this concern with the whole group.
The organisers tweaked somewhat in response, but ultimately in a way 
that did little to address the confines of the format. (In both cases, 
the organisers had planned in 'open space' working time towards the 
end of the event.)  That absorbed the energy for rebellion.  And in 
fact it meant those groups of dissidents spent more time sharing 
frustrations in what little space we could find, than actually getting 
down to work as we so desired.


What didn't work
a. Raising dissent about the formal structure without either a 
concrete plan of action, or sufficient space for a group to 
self-organise to create one... And also when most fellow participants 
are probably quite happy with the status quo.   (Reflecting on this 
thread, perhaps the better response would have been focusing not on 
changing the existing structure, but on extending an invitation to 
others from the group to work within the gaps of that structure to 
have the conversations that mattered.)


b. Tacking on a little bit of open space (1-3 hours) to the end of a 
prescriptive gathering.  We know this is a bad idea, but it is 
interesting how this then absorbs the energy for self organisation.





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On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Suzanne Daigle > wrote:


John, some years ago I opened space in the middle of a 3 day
conference. National Alliance of Arts and Culture... 350 people in
a fancy hotel in Boston. No possibility of creating circle of
chairs but at least we had a market place wall. I opened the space
by inviting people to create a circle in their mind. Quite
surprising that it all worked. People were in their sessions
within the hour, super engrossed to the point where many skipped
lunch.Topics got added over the course of the conference.
Breakouts self-organized in unusual places with notes posted on
walls to meet at the bar or at breakfast. Was not ideal but it
seemed to work
Enough that they created an adapted monthly or bimonthly open
space like conference call for a year or two after. I was not
involved.
The sponsors were pleased and the participants were engaged. Not
what I prefer but if I had to do it over again, I totally would.
Suzanne

On Nov 12, 2014 7:38 PM, "John Baxter via OSList"
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:

Thank you everyone for your examples... I love the
demonstrations of Open Space incorporated symbiotically into
the structure of a more formal event.  It is making me rethink
what is possible with gatherings... there is strong pressure
to have prescriptive formal structures even when everyone
agrees that open space is really needed... so I very much like
the idea of generative symbiotic combinations.

I'm curious about the Official Story that Open Space doesn't
work in parallel.  Can anyone speak to that?

I look at Open Space Technology in this context as an attempt
to bring open space from the background or the cracks of a
prescriptive structure, into the foreground.  So it should not
be surprising at all that those cracks can be expanded and
built upon with OST??

Thanks


*/John Baxter/*
/Cocreation Consultant & CoCreate Adelaide Facilitator/
jsbaxter.com.au  |
CoCreateADL.com 
0405 447 829
|
@jsbaxter_ 

/Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good
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Re: [OSList] How to escape education's death valley

[Daniel Mezick via OSList]

Manuel,

Yes, and you may have seen the "hole in the wall" video, where kids in 
slums in India self-organize around learning, without any supervision at 
all. "Explainer" roles emerge, and the thing advances beautifully. 
Without any adults(TED talk...)

http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves?language=en

The title of the talk is "Outdoctrination", skip to 6:30 it gets really 
good there.


See also: a confirmation of "High Play"
http://www.life.ca/lifelearning/1006/curriculum_of_play_by_John_Taylor_Gatto.htm

Daniel


On 11/13/14 3:28 AM, Manuel Marrese via OSList wrote:

Folks,
for those of you who don't know Ken Robinson I'd like to invite you to 
take some time on this video 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX78iKhInsc. I see lots of connections 
with open space and the kind of reasoning going on in this group.
To tell you my person opinion, I am so much into Open space that I 
would push the education system even further, where children could 
apply the law of two feet beautifully and creatively and let them go 
where their interests push them. But I guess we have to wait a bit 
more for that.
Anyway there is some good thoughts about control and learning that are 
worth listening to. and most of all it's fun. enjoy it!

manuel
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[OSList] How to escape education's death valley

[Manuel Marrese via OSList]

Folks,

for those of you who don't know Ken Robinson I'd like to invite you to take
some time on this video ​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX78iKhInsc. I see
lots of connections with open space and the kind of reasoning going on in
this group.

To tell you my person opinion, I am so much into Open space that I would
push the education system even further, where children could apply the law
of two feet beautifully and creatively and let them go where their
interests push them. But I guess we have to wait a bit more for that.

Anyway there is some good thoughts about control and learning that are
worth listening to. and most of all it's fun. enjoy it!

manuel

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*Mob: +39 3403424327*
*Skype: manuel.marrese*

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