Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Thank you for this description, Peggy, 

And for enlightening me on what you brought into that Closing Circle, without 
naming it.

So a wish of mine had been fulfilled, and I never knew! 

I had discovered Bohm Dialogue in 2004, after several OSTs the year before. In 
more „normal“ OST’s I found that sometimes the conversation was too mental and 
linear for me, and too little listening took place. So I was interested in ways 
of going deeper. His book opened up new possibilities and touched me deeply. 
Yet I couldn’t find anyone close by who actually used it. I had a strong wish 
of participating in such a Dialogue. Now, 14 years later, I learn that I 
actually did. Big smile over here...

Marai

PS: I appreciate your links and the document you attached. 



> Am 16.07.2019 um 00:23 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList 
> :
> 
> Marai,
> 
> I don’t think I ever mentioned Bohm Dialogue in Halifax. It just informed my 
> offering to what we did in that closing circle. 
> 
> Bohm Dialogue  is a form of 
> circle process. It was the first practice I ever experienced in which a large 
> group (200+ people) sat in a circle and deeply explored a complex subject. 
> The year was 1993 and practicing this form of interaction is in part what set 
> me up to appreciate the power of Open Space when I met Harrison in 1994. 
> (BTW, Bohm Dialogue is more typically done with 20-40 people. But that first 
> time was at a conference in Portland, Oregon with Peter Senge and they had 
> 200+ people sitting in 2 concentric circles. I’d never seen anything like 
> that before. In fact, it was an experiment for the conference organizers.)
> 
> In short, David Bohm was a physicist who saw dialogue as pathway for changing 
> consciousness in order to solve crises facing the planet. In fact, he wrote a 
> book called Changing Consciousness 
> .
>   He also wrote a seminal essay called On Dialogue 
> .
>  These were early influences for me.
> 
> What we did in that circle in Halifax was based on what I had learned and 
> experienced in working with Bohm Dialogue. We engaged in an open-ended 
> reflection in which people listened deeply to one another making our thinking 
> visible to the whole. 
> 
> Chris’ questions brought the whole system present. We became a “we” as the 
> considered the needs of individuals and the needs of the whole.
> 
> Peggy
> 
> P.S. I found something I put together in 2002 on how I practiced Bohm 
> Dialogue (attached). I eventually moved away from it because it takes so much 
> patience and self-regulation to do. Open Space seemed to yield similar or 
> better results and was much more fun. Still, I see circle processes, like 
> Bohm Dialogue, as the foundation of virtually all systemic, engagement 
> practices.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Marai Kiele 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> That’s exactly what I am intending to describe in my short story, Peggy!
>> I smile, reading your description.
>> 
>> I don’t remember „Bohm dialogue“ (Are talking objects used in that?) 
>> Please remind me of what exactly you are referring to, so I can integrate 
>> that in my story.
>> 
>> I do have a clear memory of the moment when Chris Corrigan picked up the 
>> talking object and spoke up.
>> As I remember it, besides the „I“ language, he invited all who where 
>> expressing themselves to broaden their perspective.
>> 
>> Not just think of „what do I want“ or „what do we, in this room, want“ but 
>> include all those around the globe who are not physically there.
>> What would be best for the longterm flourishing of OST and for all those who 
>> belong to the community, in some way or another?
>> What would be best for those who weren’t capable of bringing their 
>> perspective in themselves?
>> 
>> To me, that was a sacred moment. I experienced that the whole atmosphere 
>> shifted, and after a while the next location had become clear to the whole 
>> group:
>> Moscow / Russia.
>> 
>> But I won’t give all the details of my whole story away in this email! ;-)
>> 
>> Marai 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 15.07.2019 um 18:17 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList 
>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>:
>>> 
>>> Yes, it was the year of Harrison’s 70th birthday. I remember the dancing!
>>> 
>>> The closing circle keeps coming back to me. We had invitations to go to two 
>>> places in 2006. We used Bohm dialogue to discern where to go. I remember we 
>>> used a talking piece among the 50-60 people. I recall setting it up with 
>>> something like listen to each other and speak when moved. And you, Chris, 
>>> added the essential guidance to speak “I” language — from personal 
>>> 

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Peggy Holman via OSList]

Diana — LOL…we’re getting old!

To put that in perspective, following that amazing conference experience in 
Portland, one of the conference participants from Seattle faxed (yes, this 
pre-dated email) all of the attendees from Seattle to find out who was 
interested in continuing to experiment with Bohm Dialogue. About 15 of us 
showed up. We met monthly for over a year. 

I learned a lot about the power of open ended dialogue. In fact, it informed 
how we worked when we started the Open Space Institute-US. After a couple of 
tedious meetings using a traditional project management approach where I’d 
coming with a pre-set agenda and we’d slog through it, we shifted to doing a 
check-in, where people spoke to what they wanted to cover, moved into an open 
ended exploration, and closed with a check-out. What I discovered was that not 
only did we cover everything on the list that I compulsively made for myself, 
but we covered things that hadn’t occurred to me. Plus, we enjoyed each other’s 
company. In other words, we got more done and had more fun. Sure changed the 
way I worked!

Peggy




> On Jul 15, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Diana Larsen via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Whoa Peggy. We have almost known each other for a long time. I was at that 
> same 1993 event with Senge et al. 
> 
> That Dialogue Circle was a very cool introduction to complex system dynamics. 
> 
> Diana
> 
> Diana Larsen 
> Agile Fluency Project
> - 
> 
> Sent from my phone. 
> 
> On Jul 15, 2019, at 15:23, Peggy Holman via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Marai,
>> 
>> I don’t think I ever mentioned Bohm Dialogue in Halifax. It just informed my 
>> offering to what we did in that closing circle. 
>> 
>> Bohm Dialogue  is a form of 
>> circle process. It was the first practice I ever experienced in which a 
>> large group (200+ people) sat in a circle and deeply explored a complex 
>> subject. The year was 1993 and practicing this form of interaction is in 
>> part what set me up to appreciate the power of Open Space when I met 
>> Harrison in 1994. (BTW, Bohm Dialogue is more typically done with 20-40 
>> people. But that first time was at a conference in Portland, Oregon with 
>> Peter Senge and they had 200+ people sitting in 2 concentric circles. I’d 
>> never seen anything like that before. In fact, it was an experiment for the 
>> conference organizers.)
>> 
>> In short, David Bohm was a physicist who saw dialogue as pathway for 
>> changing consciousness in order to solve crises facing the planet. In fact, 
>> he wrote a book called Changing Consciousness 
>> .
>>   He also wrote a seminal essay called On Dialogue 
>> .
>>  These were early influences for me.
>> 
>> What we did in that circle in Halifax was based on what I had learned and 
>> experienced in working with Bohm Dialogue. We engaged in an open-ended 
>> reflection in which people listened deeply to one another making our 
>> thinking visible to the whole. 
>> 
>> Chris’ questions brought the whole system present. We became a “we” as the 
>> considered the needs of individuals and the needs of the whole.
>> 
>> Peggy
>> 
>> P.S. I found something I put together in 2002 on how I practiced Bohm 
>> Dialogue (attached). I eventually moved away from it because it takes so 
>> much patience and self-regulation to do. Open Space seemed to yield similar 
>> or better results and was much more fun. Still, I see circle processes, like 
>> Bohm Dialogue, as the foundation of virtually all systemic, engagement 
>> practices.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Marai Kiele 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> That’s exactly what I am intending to describe in my short story, Peggy!
>>> I smile, reading your description.
>>> 
>>> I don’t remember „Bohm dialogue“ (Are talking objects used in that?) 
>>> Please remind me of what exactly you are referring to, so I can integrate 
>>> that in my story.
>>> 
>>> I do have a clear memory of the moment when Chris Corrigan picked up the 
>>> talking object and spoke up.
>>> As I remember it, besides the „I“ language, he invited all who where 
>>> expressing themselves to broaden their perspective.
>>> 
>>> Not just think of „what do I want“ or „what do we, in this room, want“ but 
>>> include all those around the globe who are not physically there.
>>> What would be best for the longterm flourishing of OST and for all those 
>>> who belong to the community, in some way or another?
>>> What would be best for those who weren’t capable of bringing their 
>>> perspective in themselves?
>>> 
>>> To me, that was a sacred moment. I experienced that the whole atmosphere 

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Suzanne Daigle via OSList]

Hi to all the Nova Scotia WOSonOS Alumni,
I am writing to you from beautiful New Brunswick Canada where I am
vacationing with family.  How I revel in the spirit of this inquiry which
happened before my life transforming exposure to Open Space in 2009.  Soon
after that first introduction, I collected all my air miles and rushed to
Taiwan for the WOSonOS there. I relish the memories of it so deeply, in the
same "spirit" as folks sharing here.

Thank you Marai for posting this inquiry. It reminds us of the huge impact
of those global gatherings and our deep connection and affection of Open
Space. Even though our stories aren't the same, the awe and gratitude we
feel are beyond words.

I smile thinking of the title of my post yesterday on Facebook extending an
invitation to this year's WOSonOS  to old pals and new pals: "Come Create
New Memories with Us". Prescient perhaps, synchronicity certainly.  How
wonderful it would be if many came to share their old memories.
https://osius.org/wosonos2019

Thank you!
Suzanne


Suzanne Daigle
Open Space Facilitator
NuFocus Strategic Group

FL 941-359-8877
Cell: 203-722-2009
www.nufocusgroupusa.com
s.dai...@nufocusgroup.com
Twitter @Daiglesuz



On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 9:28 AM David Osborne via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> It sounds like it must be time for a return to Nova Scotia.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 15, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> I have to admit my memory is light on those details. I think from my
> perspective I was facilitating a circle. And I do remember personally at
> some point that Moscow seemed like a clear choice. It just shimmered I to
> being.
>
> I also remember that I think we deeply entrusted the next Wosonos to the
> Moscow deep, and there is a bit of a sacred trust in taking responsibility
> for this gathering.
>
> Chris
>
> _
> CHRIS CORRIGAN
> www.chriscorrigan.com
>
> On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> That’s exactly what I am intending to describe in my short story, Peggy!
> I smile, reading your description.
>
> I don’t remember „Bohm dialogue“ (Are talking objects used in that?)
> Please remind me of what exactly you are referring to, so I can integrate
> that in my story.
>
> I do have a clear memory of the moment when Chris Corrigan picked up the
> talking object and spoke up.
> As I remember it, besides the „I“ language, he invited all who where
> expressing themselves to broaden their perspective.
>
> Not just think of „what do I want“ or „what do we, in this room, want“ but
> include all those around the globe who are not physically there.
> What would be best for the longterm flourishing of OST and for all those
> who belong to the community, in some way or another?
> What would be best for those who weren’t capable of bringing their
> perspective in themselves?
>
> To me, that was a sacred moment. I experienced that the whole atmosphere
> shifted, and after a while the next location had become clear to the whole
> group:
> Moscow / Russia.
>
> But I won’t give all the details of my whole story away in this email! ;-)
>
> Marai
>
>
> Am 15.07.2019 um 18:17 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:
>
> Yes, it was the year of Harrison’s 70th birthday. I remember the dancing!
>
> The closing circle keeps coming back to me. We had invitations to go to
> two places in 2006. We used Bohm dialogue to discern where to go. I
> remember we used a talking piece among the 50-60 people. I recall setting
> it up with something like listen to each other and speak when moved. And
> you, Chris, added the essential guidance to speak “I” language — from
> personal experience.
>
> Peggy
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> I remember 2005…it was celebrating Harrison’s 65th birthday I think too
> (or was it 70th?  I just know it was significant).  I wrote a song for him
> based on a Nova Scotia folks song…I’ll look through my old note books and
> see if I still have the lyrics.  I was so nervous to sing it!  I thin I
> rehearsed it with Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet!
>
> I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was
> killed in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before.
>
> I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from
> Turkey and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with
> Kairi Birk) at Tim Merry’s Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth.
>
> Halifax is such a great city.  And it was a really fun time, probably my
> favourite of the three full OSonOS’s I attended (including the OSonOS IX
> which I co-hosted with Laurel Doersam in Vancouver in 2001).  There was
> great conversation, a beautiful, community location and dancing and
> drinking every night!
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Jul 

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