[OSList] ΑΠ: Warm Data Labs - Nora Bateson

[Maria Bakari via OSList]

Dear Jeff, 
 
Thank you for the "pass" (as in basketball ;-) ). 
 
My ultimate world cafe (and beyond) mentor was my grandfather. 
A coffee shop host of a humble Greek "cafeneio", in the middle of a small 
island-village... 
I was six or nine or ten but that experience was more formative than any 
training
or accreditation. Why? Because my grandparents house would then be warmed up 
and "decorated" 
with those Swedish/Scandinavian wooden Dala horses next to the very old 
handmade 
local pottery... Relationships were built, genuinely, springing from authentic 
hospitality... 
Generocity thives there... 
A couple of years ago we (the Greek field of the Art of Hosting) translated the 
World Cafe Handbook. 
This is good, as well... and very needed. Provided we are connected to that 
spirit that needed 
no language to manifest... 
 
I firmly believe this is the time to form new processes along  and together 
with so much that is changing... 
And to do that we need to ask the questions, we need to courageously explore...
They feel like meta-questions... and in this "field" of Warm Dating ~ Open 
Space they seem to be sparkling 
free and rigorous... 
 
I was fortunate to be part of that field in the beginning of 2000 that gave 
birth to the Art of Hosting ..thread of hosting/
learning/collective leadership ways in Europe... A "random element", 
Buckminster Fuller would call it best. 
That birthing space was so much more comfortable than today's ...emergence was 
holding... Emergency is sharpening now... 
And that calls for our ultimate authenticity, responsibility and care to show 
up. Life and Death are sides of the same edge. 
 
What are the Questions that we need to be asking?... Where is the real juice? 
 
I will leave this question here while knowing that I am carrying it and 
listening to it from everywhere... :) 
 
Maybe it goes further on this "list"- maybe not. That's already a response... 
or another question... ;-) 
 
Keep well and warmly friends & practitioners around this globe, 
 
Maria 
~~~ 
 
 
 
Maria Bakari, MSc
Organisational Psychologist
~~ ~~~ Synergy ~~~ ~~
   Building Emerald Cultures 
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85101 Ialyssos, Rhodes ~ GREECE
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Από: Jeff Aitken [mailto:r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com] 
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Thank you Maria. Yes the warm and exciting feelings that can arise in open 
spaces and warm data labs (and world cafes and talking circles) can be 
extraordinary! 

There is the excitement of exploration, curiosity, adventure, connection, and 
learning. And there are struggles, and moving thru challenges into 
breakthroughs in understanding, and feelings of open hearted love and 
appreciation...

The risks that we take to enter into such hosted processes, and the trust 
required to follow the flow of the event and let it move us and transform us. 
Such that our work and life can proceed with more coherence and confidence. 

This is surely where the "juice" is -- and what keeps us returning to such 
spaces when the time comes. Thanks for the reminder!

Warmly,
Jeff
Telegraph Hill, San Francisco

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020, 12:42 PM Maria Bakari via OSList 
 wrote:



...Recalling an interview with Nora Bateson sharing one of the "key-rules" 
of her childhood amazing open space (my take on that) learning playground: 
"There is no such thing as a stupid question"... 
For this reason and for a sensed excitement around process (design) questions, 
I am glad this question was asked. 
Thank you, Dear Robyn!  
 
However I'd go beyond comparison and beyond contrast... 
Beyond these, the exploration feels fascinating 
and deeper/wider/ more artful even perhaps questions even more so... 
 
For me (and no I'm not "a trained WD host" not even a "trained open space 
host") 
I'm just a big lover of both: 
There is something in self-organisation that dances so well with warm dating... 
 
-What is it? What are the processes that can courageously hold us or teach us 
or take us deeper/higher...?
 in this submerging?
 
Kindly &

Re: [OSList] ΑΠ: Warm Data Labs - Nora Bateson

[Jeff Aitken via OSList]

Thank you Maria. Yes the warm and exciting feelings that can arise in open
spaces and warm data labs (and world cafes and talking circles) can be
extraordinary!

There is the excitement of exploration, curiosity, adventure, connection,
and learning. And there are struggles, and moving thru challenges into
breakthroughs in understanding, and feelings of open hearted love and
appreciation...

The risks that we take to enter into such hosted processes, and the trust
required to follow the flow of the event and let it move us and transform
us. Such that our work and life can proceed with more coherence and
confidence.

This is surely where the "juice" is -- and what keeps us returning to such
spaces when the time comes. Thanks for the reminder!

Warmly,
Jeff
Telegraph Hill, San Francisco

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020, 12:42 PM Maria Bakari via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> ...Recalling an interview with Nora Bateson sharing one of the "key-rules"
> of her childhood amazing open space (my take on that) learning playground:
> "There is no such thing as a stupid question"...
> For this reason and for a sensed excitement around process
> (design) questions,
> I am glad this question was asked.
> Thank you, Dear Robyn!
>
> However I'd go beyond comparison and beyond contrast...
> Beyond these, the exploration feels fascinating
> and deeper/wider/ more artful even perhaps questions even more so...
>
> For me (and no I'm not "a trained WD host" not even a "trained open space
> host")
> I'm just a big lover of both:
> There is something in self-organisation that dances so well with warm
> dating...
>
> -What is it? What are the processes that can courageously hold us or teach
> us or take us deeper/higher...?
>  in this submerging?
>
> Kindly & With Curiosity and Warmth,
>
> Maria
> ~~~
>
>
> Maria Bakari, MSc
> Organisational Psychologist
>
> *~~ ~~~ Synergy ~~~ ~~*
> *Building Emerald Cultures *9 Chroni Stergiopoulou, Ixia
> 85101 Ialyssos, Rhodes ~ GREECE
> ~~~
> Web: www.synergy-rhodes.com
> and   *www.nextstage.world*
> Tel.: + 30 6937107443
> Email: bak...@otenet.gr
> *Online meeting rooms:*
> https://whereby.com/synergy~rhodes
> ZoomRoom: https://zoom.us/j/9117788499
> Skype: maria_bakari
> ~
> *"*
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> *http://storiesofthenewearth.weebly.com/*
> 
>
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> *Θέμα:* Re: [OSList] Warm Data Labs - Nora Bateson
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> Well said!!
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> On 1 Jun 2020, at 3:57 pm, Jeroen Vermeer via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Although much has been said already on this topic, I'd like to offer my
> insights as a trained WDL host. Simply put: don't even try to compare OST
> and WDL, just not worth the exercise. The Warm Data Lab has been designed
> as a process to let people experience the rich interdependencies of complex
> systems and questions. It can for example serve as a precursor to an OST
> event, or be a standalone process. It has no purpose other than to create a
> lived experience (and thereby altered perception) of the participants on
> the interdependencies. As Nora Bateson likes to say "perception is action",
> so it's effects are not to be underestimated. The process itself looks to
> be very simple, but there's actually a lot to it, which goes well beyond
> what I can explain. Please follow Nora Bateson herself through the many
> writings she has shared or the podcasts she has taken a part in. Watch her
> fillm 'An ecology of Mind', or take her training ;)
>
> Warm regards,
> Hartelijke groet,
>
> Jeroen Vermeer
>
> Op 30/05/2020 17:43:42, Jeff Aitken via OSList <
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> On Sat, May 30, 2020, 8:07 AM Michael M Pannwitz via 

[OSList] ΑΠ: Warm Data Labs - Nora Bateson

[Maria Bakari via OSList]

...Recalling an interview with Nora Bateson sharing one of the "key-rules" 
of her childhood amazing open space (my take on that) learning playground: 
"There is no such thing as a stupid question"... 
For this reason and for a sensed excitement around process (design) questions, 
I am glad this question was asked. 
Thank you, Dear Robyn!  
 
However I'd go beyond comparison and beyond contrast... 
Beyond these, the exploration feels fascinating 
and deeper/wider/ more artful even perhaps questions even more so... 
 
For me (and no I'm not "a trained WD host" not even a "trained open space 
host") 
I'm just a big lover of both: 
There is something in self-organisation that dances so well with warm dating... 
 
-What is it? What are the processes that can courageously hold us or teach us 
or take us deeper/higher...?
 in this submerging?
 
Kindly & With Curiosity and Warmth, 
 
Maria 
~~~ 
 
 
Maria Bakari, MSc
Organisational Psychologist
~~ ~~~ Synergy ~~~ ~~
   Building Emerald Cultures 
9 Chroni Stergiopoulou, Ixia
85101 Ialyssos, Rhodes ~ GREECE
~~~
Web:   www.synergy-rhodes.com 
and   www.nextstage.world 
Tel.: + 30 6937107443
Email: bak...@otenet.gr 
Online meeting rooms:
  https://whereby.com/synergy~rhodes 
ZoomRoom: https://zoom.us/j/9117788499
Skype: maria_bakari
~
"Stories of the New Earth" Radio Broadcast:
  
http://storiesofthenewearth.weebly.com/  
Illuminating the Stories of Humanity & Innovation in Greece & the World
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~  ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~  ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 
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Halford via OSList
Αποστολή: 01 June 2020 11:44
Προς: World wide Open Space Technology email list
Κοιν.: Alan Halford
Θέμα: Re: [OSList] Warm Data Labs - Nora Bateson


Well said!!

Alan Halford & Associates
Open Space Technology Aficionados
Mediation and Conflict Transformation
Facilitators

www.alanhalford.com.au  
www.conflictcompany.com.au   
0421 475 252
skype: alanhalford






On 1 Jun 2020, at 3:57 pm, Jeroen Vermeer via OSList 
 wrote:

Although much has been said already on this topic, I'd like to offer my 
insights as a trained WDL host. Simply put: don't even try to compare OST and 
WDL, just not worth the exercise. The Warm Data Lab has been designed as a 
process to let people experience the rich interdependencies of complex systems 
and questions. It can for example serve as a precursor to an OST event, or be a 
standalone process. It has no purpose other than to create a lived experience 
(and thereby altered perception) of the participants on the interdependencies. 
As Nora Bateson likes to say "perception is action", so it's effects are not to 
be underestimated. The process itself looks to be very simple, but there's 
actually a lot to it, which goes well beyond what I can explain. Please follow 
Nora Bateson herself through the many writings she has shared or the podcasts 
she has taken a part in. Watch her fillm 'An ecology of Mind', or take her 
training ;) 

Warm regards, 
Hartelijke groet, 

Jeroen Vermeer


Op 30/05/2020 17:43:42, Jeff Aitken via OSList  
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On Sat, May 30, 2020, 8:07 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
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To write "open space" in lower case is my trademark, so please, respect it

greetings from Berlin where I enjoy the last spring days and the open 
beer garden in my neighborhood... its not the same thing as a couple of 
martini cocktails so I have no new insights...

I wonder what a "Cold Data Lab" would look like or even a "Hot Data Lab" 
or a "Temperate Data Lab" or a "Fragrant Data Lab"...

Be on the watch for Holy Spirit in the next couple of days

mmp
Am 30.05.2020 um 13:20 schrieb Robyn Williams ► via OSList:
> Thanks Thomas, I agree, that’s why ‘open space’ was in lower case. J
> 
> Def not OST!
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> All the best, Robyn
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