Re: [OSList] How to escape education's death valley

[Manuel Marrese via OSList]

​Wonderful! Thanks a lot for your comments!!

Dan, Outdoctrination is just great! there's so much in that little
experiment. Brilliant!

Tricia, if you start doing something around such things count me in :)

Manuel

2014-11-13 16:03 GMT+01:00 Royle, Karl via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:

>  You might also be interested in Jesse Schell’s take on ugly beautiful
> education…  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tg55pdNMxw
>
>  There’s also a guy call Zhao who makes a lot of sense
>
>  Best Karl
>
>   Karl Royle
>
> Centre for Development and Applied Research in Education
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> Walsall Campus
> Gorway Road
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>   From: Tricia Chirumbole via OSList 
> Reply-To: Tricia Chirumbole , World
> wide Open Space Technology email list 
> Date: Thursday, 13 November 2014 14:53
> To: Daniel Mezick , World wide Open Space Technology
> email list 
> Subject: Re: [OSList] How to escape education's death valley
>
>   Manuel,
>
>  Thanks for sharing - I am totally with you! Love Ken Robinson's message
> and once I found Open Space so an immediate connection!
>
>  Do a google for "unschooling" and you will see some open space education
> in action ;)
>
>  For another like-minded perspective, check out John Taylor Gatto's book, *
> Underground History of American Education
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Underground_History_of_American_Education>* 
> -
> I suspect it would apply to many other "modern" countries:)
>
>  I am a huge proponent of bringing this mentality to education and hope
> to do something with this in one of my lifetimes :)
>
>
>
>  Tricia Chirumbole
> US: +1-571-232-0942
> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Manuel,
>>
>> Yes, and you may have seen the "hole in the wall" video, where kids in
>> slums in India self-organize around learning, without any supervision at
>> all. "Explainer" roles emerge, and the thing advances beautifully. Without
>> any adults(TED talk...)
>>
>> http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves?language=en
>>
>> The title of the talk is "Outdoctrination", skip to 6:30 it gets really
>> good there.
>>
>> See also: a confirmation of "High Play"
>>
>> http://www.life.ca/lifelearning/1006/curriculum_of_play_by_John_Taylor_Gatto.htm
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On 11/13/14 3:28 AM, Manuel Marrese via OSList wrote:
>>
>>   Folks,
>>
>>  for those of you who don't know Ken Robinson I'd like to invite you to
>> take some time on this video ​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX78iKhInsc.
>> I see lots of connections with open space and the kind of reasoning going
>> on in this group.
>>
>>  To tell you my person opinion, I am so much into Open space that I would
>> push the education system even further, where children could apply the law
>> of two feet beautifully and creatively and let them go where their
>> interests push them. But I guess we have to wait a bit more for that.
>>
>>  Anyway there is some good thoughts about control and learning that are
>> worth listening to. and most of all it's fun. enjoy it!
>>
>>  manuel
>>
>>  *Manuel Marrese*
>> *Mob: +39 3403424327 <%2B39%203403424327>*
>> *Skype: manuel.marrese*
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Re: [OSList] How to escape education's death valley

[Royle, Karl via OSList]

You might also be interested in Jesse Schell’s take on ugly beautiful 
education…  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tg55pdNMxw

There’s also a guy call Zhao who makes a lot of sense

Best Karl

Karl Royle

Centre for Development and Applied Research in Education
Faculty of Education Health and Wellbeing
Walsall Campus
Gorway Road
WS1 3BD
Skype Karlr61
Twitter @karlroyle
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 World wide Open Space Technology email list 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>
Date: Thursday, 13 November 2014 14:53
To: Daniel Mezick mailto:d...@newtechusa.net>>, World wide 
Open Space Technology email list 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>
Subject: Re: [OSList] How to escape education's death valley

Manuel,

Thanks for sharing - I am totally with you! Love Ken Robinson's message and 
once I found Open Space so an immediate connection!

Do a google for "unschooling" and you will see some open space education in 
action ;)

For another like-minded perspective, check out John Taylor Gatto's book, 
Underground History of American 
Education<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Underground_History_of_American_Education>
 - I suspect it would apply to many other "modern" countries:)

I am a huge proponent of bringing this mentality to education and hope to do 
something with this in one of my lifetimes :)



Tricia Chirumbole
US: +1-571-232-0942
Skype: tricia.chirumbole


On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
Manuel,

Yes, and you may have seen the "hole in the wall" video, where kids in slums in 
India self-organize around learning, without any supervision at all. 
"Explainer" roles emerge, and the thing advances beautifully. Without any 
adults(TED talk...)
http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves?language=en

The title of the talk is "Outdoctrination", skip to 6:30 it gets really good 
there.

See also: a confirmation of "High Play"
http://www.life.ca/lifelearning/1006/curriculum_of_play_by_John_Taylor_Gatto.htm

Daniel


On 11/13/14 3:28 AM, Manuel Marrese via OSList wrote:
Folks,

for those of you who don't know Ken Robinson I'd like to invite you to take 
some time on this video ​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX78iKhInsc. I see 
lots of connections with open space and the kind of reasoning going on in this 
group.

To tell you my person opinion, I am so much into Open space that I would push 
the education system even further, where children could apply the law of two 
feet beautifully and creatively and let them go where their interests push 
them. But I guess we have to wait a bit more for that.

Anyway there is some good thoughts about control and learning that are worth 
listening to. and most of all it's fun. enjoy it!

manuel

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Re: [OSList] How to escape education's death valley

[Tricia Chirumbole via OSList]

Manuel,

Thanks for sharing - I am totally with you! Love Ken Robinson's message and
once I found Open Space so an immediate connection!

Do a google for "unschooling" and you will see some open space education in
action ;)

For another like-minded perspective, check out John Taylor Gatto's
book, *Underground
History of American Education
* -
I suspect it would apply to many other "modern" countries:)

I am a huge proponent of bringing this mentality to education and hope to
do something with this in one of my lifetimes :)



Tricia Chirumbole
US: +1-571-232-0942
Skype: tricia.chirumbole


On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

>  Manuel,
>
> Yes, and you may have seen the "hole in the wall" video, where kids in
> slums in India self-organize around learning, without any supervision at
> all. "Explainer" roles emerge, and the thing advances beautifully. Without
> any adults(TED talk...)
>
> http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves?language=en
>
> The title of the talk is "Outdoctrination", skip to 6:30 it gets really
> good there.
>
> See also: a confirmation of "High Play"
>
> http://www.life.ca/lifelearning/1006/curriculum_of_play_by_John_Taylor_Gatto.htm
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On 11/13/14 3:28 AM, Manuel Marrese via OSList wrote:
>
>  Folks,
>
> for those of you who don't know Ken Robinson I'd like to invite you to
> take some time on this video ​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX78iKhInsc.
> I see lots of connections with open space and the kind of reasoning going
> on in this group.
>
> To tell you my person opinion, I am so much into Open space that I would
> push the education system even further, where children could apply the law
> of two feet beautifully and creatively and let them go where their
> interests push them. But I guess we have to wait a bit more for that.
>
> Anyway there is some good thoughts about control and learning that are
> worth listening to. and most of all it's fun. enjoy it!
>
> manuel
>
>  *Manuel Marrese*
> *Mob: +39 3403424327 <%2B39%203403424327>*
> *Skype: manuel.marrese*
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Re: [OSList] How to escape education's death valley

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Manuel,

Yes, and you may have seen the "hole in the wall" video, where kids in 
slums in India self-organize around learning, without any supervision at 
all. "Explainer" roles emerge, and the thing advances beautifully. 
Without any adults(TED talk...)

http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves?language=en

The title of the talk is "Outdoctrination", skip to 6:30 it gets really 
good there.


See also: a confirmation of "High Play"
http://www.life.ca/lifelearning/1006/curriculum_of_play_by_John_Taylor_Gatto.htm

Daniel


On 11/13/14 3:28 AM, Manuel Marrese via OSList wrote:

Folks,
for those of you who don't know Ken Robinson I'd like to invite you to 
take some time on this video 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX78iKhInsc. I see lots of connections 
with open space and the kind of reasoning going on in this group.
To tell you my person opinion, I am so much into Open space that I 
would push the education system even further, where children could 
apply the law of two feet beautifully and creatively and let them go 
where their interests push them. But I guess we have to wait a bit 
more for that.
Anyway there is some good thoughts about control and learning that are 
worth listening to. and most of all it's fun. enjoy it!

manuel
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[OSList] How to escape education's death valley

[Manuel Marrese via OSList]

Folks,

for those of you who don't know Ken Robinson I'd like to invite you to take
some time on this video ​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX78iKhInsc. I see
lots of connections with open space and the kind of reasoning going on in
this group.

To tell you my person opinion, I am so much into Open space that I would
push the education system even further, where children could apply the law
of two feet beautifully and creatively and let them go where their
interests push them. But I guess we have to wait a bit more for that.

Anyway there is some good thoughts about control and learning that are
worth listening to. and most of all it's fun. enjoy it!

manuel

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