Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
Thanks Harold for taking care of this list. Obviously this is not an easy task. What would our community be without people who care like you do ? Christine On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
YES Harold, you are doing a precious work for all of us thank you ge *Gerardo de Luzenberger* *Mob: +39 3293281343* *Tel: +39 02 89751746* *Fax: +39 02 87151318 * *Skype: gerardodeluz – *xge(at)loci.it x...@loci.it *IAF: Certified Professional Facilitator* *genius**loci * *facilitation development PREMIO IMPRESA INNOVATIVA E CREATIVA DELLA PROVINCIA DI MILANO **loci.it * http://www.loci.it– i...@loci.it*scrivici i...@loci.it - le foto del nostro lavoro http://www.flickr.com/photos/geniusloci/* Scuola Superiore di Facilitazione http://www.scuolafacilitazione.it http://www.flickr.com/photos/geniusloci/ Sede legale: Via A. Volta 12 - 20121 Milano – Italy Uffici: Via A. Volta 6 - 20121 Milano – Italy *Prima di stampare questa mail pensa all'ambiente! **Please consider the environment before deciding to print this e-mail* AVVISO DI RISERVATEZZA Il contenuto e gli allegati di questo messaggio sono strettamente confidenziali. Ne è vietata la diffusione e l'uso non autorizzato. Qualora il presente messaggio le fosse pervenuto per errore, le saremmo grati se lo distruggesse e, via e-mail, ce ne comunicasse l'errata ricezione all'indirizzo i...@loci.it https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/blocked::mailto:i...@loci.it This e-mail (and any attachment(s)) is strictly confidential and for use only by intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient(s), please notify it via e-mail at i...@loci.it https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/blocked::mailto:i...@loci.it promptly 2014-09-24 22:27 GMT+02:00 karolina iwa via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org: thank you harold for your time, patience and persistence. it is very appreciated! karolina. *karolina iwa* creativity self-organisation blog http://www.karolinaiwa.com I twitter https://twitter.com/karolinaiwa I l http://de.linkedin.com/pub/karolina-iwa/58/9b6/403inkedin http://de.linkedin.com/pub/karolina-iwa/58/9b6/403 D: +49 15774 932193 PL: +48 880 747578 On 24 Sep 2014, at 22:22, Koos de Heer via OSList wrote: Hi Harold, Thank you so much for all the work you are putting into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as coming from Harold Shinsato via OSList which I think is by all means acceptable. Koos Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org het volgende geschreven: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
How frustrating to have someone dare to attempt to shut down our space! A very deep bow to you, Harold, for keeping our life-line open [?] Gail On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:29 PM, christine koehler via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: Thanks Harold for taking care of this list. Obviously this is not an easy task. What would our community be without people who care like you do ? Christine On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org -- *Gail West, ICA* *3F, No. 12, Lane 5, Tien Mou W RdTaipei, Taiwan 111Ph) 8862) 2871-3150* email) icat...@gmail.com Skype) gwestica www.icatw.com ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
Thanks Harold for taking care of this list. Obviously this is not an easy task. What would our community be without people who care like you do ? Christine On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
YES Harold, you are doing a precious work for all of us thank you ge *Gerardo de Luzenberger* *Mob: +39 3293281343* *Tel: +39 02 89751746* *Fax: +39 02 87151318 * *Skype: gerardodeluz – *xge(at)loci.it x...@loci.it *IAF: Certified Professional Facilitator* *genius**loci * *facilitation development PREMIO IMPRESA INNOVATIVA E CREATIVA DELLA PROVINCIA DI MILANO **loci.it * http://www.loci.it– i...@loci.it*scrivici i...@loci.it - le foto del nostro lavoro http://www.flickr.com/photos/geniusloci/* Scuola Superiore di Facilitazione http://www.scuolafacilitazione.it http://www.flickr.com/photos/geniusloci/ Sede legale: Via A. Volta 12 - 20121 Milano – Italy Uffici: Via A. Volta 6 - 20121 Milano – Italy *Prima di stampare questa mail pensa all'ambiente! **Please consider the environment before deciding to print this e-mail* AVVISO DI RISERVATEZZA Il contenuto e gli allegati di questo messaggio sono strettamente confidenziali. Ne è vietata la diffusione e l'uso non autorizzato. Qualora il presente messaggio le fosse pervenuto per errore, le saremmo grati se lo distruggesse e, via e-mail, ce ne comunicasse l'errata ricezione all'indirizzo i...@loci.it https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/blocked::mailto:i...@loci.it This e-mail (and any attachment(s)) is strictly confidential and for use only by intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient(s), please notify it via e-mail at i...@loci.it https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/blocked::mailto:i...@loci.it promptly 2014-09-24 22:27 GMT+02:00 karolina iwa via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org: thank you harold for your time, patience and persistence. it is very appreciated! karolina. *karolina iwa* creativity self-organisation blog http://www.karolinaiwa.com I twitter https://twitter.com/karolinaiwa I l http://de.linkedin.com/pub/karolina-iwa/58/9b6/403inkedin http://de.linkedin.com/pub/karolina-iwa/58/9b6/403 D: +49 15774 932193 PL: +48 880 747578 On 24 Sep 2014, at 22:22, Koos de Heer via OSList wrote: Hi Harold, Thank you so much for all the work you are putting into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as coming from Harold Shinsato via OSList which I think is by all means acceptable. Koos Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org het volgende geschreven: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
How frustrating to have someone dare to attempt to shut down our space! A very deep bow to you, Harold, for keeping our life-line open [?] Gail On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:29 PM, christine koehler via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: Thanks Harold for taking care of this list. Obviously this is not an easy task. What would our community be without people who care like you do ? Christine On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org -- *Gail West, ICA* *3F, No. 12, Lane 5, Tien Mou W RdTaipei, Taiwan 111Ph) 8862) 2871-3150* email) icat...@gmail.com Skype) gwestica www.icatw.com ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
Thanks Harold for taking care of this list. Obviously this is not an easy task. What would our community be without people who care like you do ? Christine On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
YES Harold, you are doing a precious work for all of us thank you ge *Gerardo de Luzenberger* *Mob: +39 3293281343* *Tel: +39 02 89751746* *Fax: +39 02 87151318 * *Skype: gerardodeluz – *xge(at)loci.it x...@loci.it *IAF: Certified Professional Facilitator* *genius**loci * *facilitation development PREMIO IMPRESA INNOVATIVA E CREATIVA DELLA PROVINCIA DI MILANO **loci.it * http://www.loci.it– i...@loci.it*scrivici i...@loci.it - le foto del nostro lavoro http://www.flickr.com/photos/geniusloci/* Scuola Superiore di Facilitazione http://www.scuolafacilitazione.it http://www.flickr.com/photos/geniusloci/ Sede legale: Via A. Volta 12 - 20121 Milano – Italy Uffici: Via A. Volta 6 - 20121 Milano – Italy *Prima di stampare questa mail pensa all'ambiente! **Please consider the environment before deciding to print this e-mail* AVVISO DI RISERVATEZZA Il contenuto e gli allegati di questo messaggio sono strettamente confidenziali. Ne è vietata la diffusione e l'uso non autorizzato. Qualora il presente messaggio le fosse pervenuto per errore, le saremmo grati se lo distruggesse e, via e-mail, ce ne comunicasse l'errata ricezione all'indirizzo i...@loci.it https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/blocked::mailto:i...@loci.it This e-mail (and any attachment(s)) is strictly confidential and for use only by intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient(s), please notify it via e-mail at i...@loci.it https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/blocked::mailto:i...@loci.it promptly 2014-09-24 22:27 GMT+02:00 karolina iwa via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org: thank you harold for your time, patience and persistence. it is very appreciated! karolina. *karolina iwa* creativity self-organisation blog http://www.karolinaiwa.com I twitter https://twitter.com/karolinaiwa I l http://de.linkedin.com/pub/karolina-iwa/58/9b6/403inkedin http://de.linkedin.com/pub/karolina-iwa/58/9b6/403 D: +49 15774 932193 PL: +48 880 747578 On 24 Sep 2014, at 22:22, Koos de Heer via OSList wrote: Hi Harold, Thank you so much for all the work you are putting into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as coming from Harold Shinsato via OSList which I think is by all means acceptable. Koos Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org het volgende geschreven: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
How frustrating to have someone dare to attempt to shut down our space! A very deep bow to you, Harold, for keeping our life-line open [?] Gail On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:29 PM, christine koehler via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: Thanks Harold for taking care of this list. Obviously this is not an easy task. What would our community be without people who care like you do ? Christine On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org -- *Gail West, ICA* *3F, No. 12, Lane 5, Tien Mou W RdTaipei, Taiwan 111Ph) 8862) 2871-3150* email) icat...@gmail.com Skype) gwestica www.icatw.com ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
Thank you Harold for your time,support and conscientiousness. Scott Gassman On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org -- Scott Gassman IdeaJuice (917) 951 - 0258 scott.gass...@gmail.com www.ideajuices.com America Speaks on Scott: http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
Hi Harold, Thank you so much for all the work you are putting into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as coming from Harold Shinsato via OSList which I think is by all means acceptable. Koos Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org het volgende geschreven: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
thank you harold for your time, patience and persistence. it is very appreciated! karolina. karolina iwa creativity self-organisation blog I twitter I linkedin D: +49 15774 932193 PL: +48 880 747578 On 24 Sep 2014, at 22:22, Koos de Heer via OSList wrote: Hi Harold, Thank you so much for all the work you are putting into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as coming from Harold Shinsato via OSList which I think is by all means acceptable. Koos Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org het volgende geschreven: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
Thanks Scott, Koos, and Karolina, I can see that the sender is listed as Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org. As long as people have good text in their from field, it should make the sender clear in our inboxes and in the archives. But we won't be able to search via email addresses :-( Still, it seems better than risking the OSList being considered a spammer in the DMARC system - so I'll leave it that way for now until we have a better solution. Thanks everyone for your patience! Harold On 9/24/14 2:27 PM, karolina iwa via OSList wrote: thank you harold for your time, patience and persistence. it is very appreciated! karolina. *karolina iwa* creativity self-organisation blog http://www.karolinaiwa.com I twitter https://twitter.com/karolinaiwa I l http://de.linkedin.com/pub/karolina-iwa/58/9b6/403inkedin http://de.linkedin.com/pub/karolina-iwa/58/9b6/403 D: +49 15774 932193 PL: +48 880 747578 On 24 Sep 2014, at 22:22, Koos de Heer via OSList wrote: Hi Harold, Thank you so much for all the work you are putting into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as coming from Harold Shinsato via OSList which I think is by all means acceptable. Koos Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org het volgende geschreven: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com mailto:har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com http://shinsato.com/ twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com mailto:har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush
RE: [OSList] OSList bounces
Harold, You are a Saint! I can't thank you enough for being there - wherever there is these days. Harrison Ps - love Raffi as I do - Quarantine may be in order. Not quite Ebola, but certainly having a similar effect on poor old OSLIST. Winter Address 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, MD 20854 301-365-2093 Summer Address 189 Beaucaire Ave. Camden, ME 04843 207-763-3261 Websites www.openspaceworld.com www.ho-image.com OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Harold Shinsato via OSList Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 4:06 PM To: OSLIST Subject: [OSList] OSList bounces I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
Thank you Harold for your time,support and conscientiousness. Scott Gassman On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org -- Scott Gassman IdeaJuice (917) 951 - 0258 scott.gass...@gmail.com www.ideajuices.com America Speaks on Scott: http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
Hi Harold, Thank you so much for all the work you are putting into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as coming from Harold Shinsato via OSList which I think is by all means acceptable. Koos Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org het volgende geschreven: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
thank you harold for your time, patience and persistence. it is very appreciated! karolina. karolina iwa creativity self-organisation blog I twitter I linkedin D: +49 15774 932193 PL: +48 880 747578 On 24 Sep 2014, at 22:22, Koos de Heer via OSList wrote: Hi Harold, Thank you so much for all the work you are putting into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as coming from Harold Shinsato via OSList which I think is by all means acceptable. Koos Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org het volgende geschreven: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
Thanks Scott, Koos, and Karolina, I can see that the sender is listed as Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org. As long as people have good text in their from field, it should make the sender clear in our inboxes and in the archives. But we won't be able to search via email addresses :-( Still, it seems better than risking the OSList being considered a spammer in the DMARC system - so I'll leave it that way for now until we have a better solution. Thanks everyone for your patience! Harold On 9/24/14 2:27 PM, karolina iwa via OSList wrote: thank you harold for your time, patience and persistence. it is very appreciated! karolina. *karolina iwa* creativity self-organisation blog http://www.karolinaiwa.com I twitter https://twitter.com/karolinaiwa I l http://de.linkedin.com/pub/karolina-iwa/58/9b6/403inkedin http://de.linkedin.com/pub/karolina-iwa/58/9b6/403 D: +49 15774 932193 PL: +48 880 747578 On 24 Sep 2014, at 22:22, Koos de Heer via OSList wrote: Hi Harold, Thank you so much for all the work you are putting into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as coming from Harold Shinsato via OSList which I think is by all means acceptable. Koos Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org het volgende geschreven: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com mailto:har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com http://shinsato.com/ twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com mailto:har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush
RE: [OSList] OSList bounces
Harold, You are a Saint! I can't thank you enough for being there - wherever there is these days. Harrison Ps - love Raffi as I do - Quarantine may be in order. Not quite Ebola, but certainly having a similar effect on poor old OSLIST. Winter Address 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, MD 20854 301-365-2093 Summer Address 189 Beaucaire Ave. Camden, ME 04843 207-763-3261 Websites www.openspaceworld.com www.ho-image.com OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Harold Shinsato via OSList Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 4:06 PM To: OSLIST Subject: [OSList] OSList bounces I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
Thank you Harold for your time,support and conscientiousness. Scott Gassman On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org -- Scott Gassman IdeaJuice (917) 951 - 0258 scott.gass...@gmail.com www.ideajuices.com America Speaks on Scott: http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
Hi Harold, Thank you so much for all the work you are putting into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as coming from Harold Shinsato via OSList which I think is by all means acceptable. Koos Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org het volgende geschreven: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
thank you harold for your time, patience and persistence. it is very appreciated! karolina. karolina iwa creativity self-organisation blog I twitter I linkedin D: +49 15774 932193 PL: +48 880 747578 On 24 Sep 2014, at 22:22, Koos de Heer via OSList wrote: Hi Harold, Thank you so much for all the work you are putting into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as coming from Harold Shinsato via OSList which I think is by all means acceptable. Koos Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org het volgende geschreven: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Re: [OSList] OSList bounces
Thanks Scott, Koos, and Karolina, I can see that the sender is listed as Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org. As long as people have good text in their from field, it should make the sender clear in our inboxes and in the archives. But we won't be able to search via email addresses :-( Still, it seems better than risking the OSList being considered a spammer in the DMARC system - so I'll leave it that way for now until we have a better solution. Thanks everyone for your patience! Harold On 9/24/14 2:27 PM, karolina iwa via OSList wrote: thank you harold for your time, patience and persistence. it is very appreciated! karolina. *karolina iwa* creativity self-organisation blog http://www.karolinaiwa.com I twitter https://twitter.com/karolinaiwa I l http://de.linkedin.com/pub/karolina-iwa/58/9b6/403inkedin http://de.linkedin.com/pub/karolina-iwa/58/9b6/403 D: +49 15774 932193 PL: +48 880 747578 On 24 Sep 2014, at 22:22, Koos de Heer via OSList wrote: Hi Harold, Thank you so much for all the work you are putting into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as coming from Harold Shinsato via OSList which I think is by all means acceptable. Koos Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org het volgende geschreven: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com mailto:har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com http://shinsato.com/ twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com mailto:har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush
RE: [OSList] OSList bounces
Harold, You are a Saint! I can't thank you enough for being there - wherever there is these days. Harrison Ps - love Raffi as I do - Quarantine may be in order. Not quite Ebola, but certainly having a similar effect on poor old OSLIST. Winter Address 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, MD 20854 301-365-2093 Summer Address 189 Beaucaire Ave. Camden, ME 04843 207-763-3261 Websites www.openspaceworld.com www.ho-image.com OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Harold Shinsato via OSList Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 4:06 PM To: OSLIST Subject: [OSList] OSList bounces I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do anything. Alas, if you're not, ... not much I say here will make any difference. But Raffi emailed the list again today. Another festival of bounces in my inbox. This time, the google/gmail accounts seemed to be ok. But many Yahoo, MSN, Sympatico, Comcast and other accounts bounced Raffi's email - and the OSList disabled their accounts. Again, one by one, I re-enabled them today. If you see this email - no action needed. The email companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. are implementing something called DMARC to prevent spam. Gory details: http://support.google.com/mail/answer/2451690 Apparently this is not an easy thing to fix. More gory details. http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC. For now - I have changed Raffi's account so I have to moderate anything he sends. I'm trying another experiment where the From field is changed - so this note doesn't say From Harold in your email program. I don't think this is acceptable - but I'm testing it. It looks like there is a better solution in a newer version of the software we are using for the OSList. I'll see if I can get our web hosting company to deploy that software - but it might take a while. Alas, I wish I could guarantee no further glitches. I'll keep you updated. Regards, Harold -- Harold Shinsato har...@shinsato.com http://shinsato.com twitter: @hajush http://twitter.com/hajush
