Re: [OSRM-talk] How to disable all ferry routes?

[Richard Marsden]

thanks - I was still at the LUA  stage (and quite a bit can be worked out from 
just this level).

The explanation below explains 0 and 1, but I couldn't see any explanation of 
the other values - despite some c++ code that set default TravelMode values of 
4 in a couple of places. No documentation in TravelMode.hpp

The lack of documentation is an issue, and I was planning to write a few notes 
about the LUA profiles for others on my blog. They're bound to be incomplete, 
but they would be a start and could be updated/corrected as a living document.

Richard

On Nov 11, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Daniel Hofmann  wrote:

> Let me show you how you can find out more about specific variables like 
> mode_ferry:
> 
> your best bet is to search the code base, for example, see this initial 
> search for mode_ferry:
> 
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=mode_ferry&type=Code
> 
> you can see how we set result.forward_mode and result.backward_mode to 
> mode_ferry there, so let's search for forward_mode:
> 
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=forward_mode&type=Code
> 
> this gives us some lua profiles, which we ignore, since we want to see how 
> the OSRM implementation uses forward_mode and backward_mode; the last search 
> hit is scripting_environment.cpp:
> 
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/extractor/scripting_environment.cpp#L121-L124
> 
> this is where we expose the ExtractionWay's set_forward_mode and 
> set_backward_mode member functions, aliasing them to the lua properties 
> forward_mode and backward_mode --- so let's go on searching for the 
> ExtractionWay type:
> 
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/extractor/extraction_way.hpp#L112-L115
> 
> in those member functions, the forward_travel_mode and backward_travel_mode 
> are set accordingly. If you check their types a few lines below in the member 
> attribute declarations, you will see they are of type TravelMode. And here it 
> is:
> 
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/data_structures/travel_mode.hpp#L34-L35
> 
> a quick search for TRAVEL_MODE_INACCESSIBLE reveals the following line in the 
> extractor:
> 
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/9ef1f8cba31ec8323b357d233f1c552b1c7c9e09/extractor/extractor_callbacks.cpp#L95-L99
> 
> where ways are discarded, if they are inaccessible! Tada!
> 
> 
> As you can see, even though it is quite a bit of effort tracing back specific 
> variables, it can be done in a few minutes with only the most basic tools (I 
> did this entirely using the Github search functionality --- of course you can 
> use grep or your code browser of choice, too).
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Daniel J H
> 
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Richard Marsden  wrote:
> By coincidence I was working through the lua scripts trying to understand 
> them.
> 
> So what is the significance of the 1,2,3?  Just unique identifiers. As long 
> as they're non-zero, they will be enabled?
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> On Nov 11, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Daniel Hofmann  wrote:
> 
>> If you take a look at the car profile, you will see a ferry_mode variable, 
>> that sets the travel mode:
>> 
>> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/profiles/car.lua#L151
>> 
>> If you set this to 0 (i.e. 'inaccessible") as defined here:
>> 
>> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/data_structures/travel_mode.hpp#L34-L35
>> 
>> then the extractor discards ferry routes because you marked them 
>> inaccessible.
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Peter Becker  wrote:
>> Hello, i dont want any ferries in my routes. Is this possible?
>> 
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Re: [OSRM-talk] How to disable all ferry routes?

[Daniel Hofmann]

Let me show you how you can find out more about specific variables like
mode_ferry:

your best bet is to search the code base, for example, see this initial
search for mode_ferry:

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=mode_ferry&type=Code

you can see how we set result.forward_mode and result.backward_mode to
mode_ferry there, so let's search for forward_mode:

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=forward_mode&type=Code

this gives us some lua profiles, which we ignore, since we want to see how
the OSRM implementation uses forward_mode and backward_mode; the last
search hit is scripting_environment.cpp:

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/extractor/scripting_environment.cpp#L121-L124

this is where we expose the ExtractionWay's set_forward_mode and
set_backward_mode member functions, aliasing them to the lua properties
forward_mode and backward_mode --- so let's go on searching for the
ExtractionWay type:

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/extractor/extraction_way.hpp#L112-L115

in those member functions, the forward_travel_mode and backward_travel_mode
are set accordingly. If you check their types a few lines below in the
member attribute declarations, you will see they are of type TravelMode.
And here it is:

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/data_structures/travel_mode.hpp#L34-L35

a quick search for TRAVEL_MODE_INACCESSIBLE reveals the following line in
the extractor:

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/9ef1f8cba31ec8323b357d233f1c552b1c7c9e09/extractor/extractor_callbacks.cpp#L95-L99

where ways are discarded, if they are inaccessible! Tada!


As you can see, even though it is quite a bit of effort tracing back
specific variables, it can be done in a few minutes with only the most
basic tools (I did this entirely using the Github search functionality ---
of course you can use grep or your code browser of choice, too).

Hope that helps,
Daniel J H

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Richard Marsden  wrote:

> By coincidence I was working through the lua scripts trying to understand
> them.
>
> So what is the significance of the 1,2,3?  Just unique identifiers. As
> long as they're non-zero, they will be enabled?
>
> Richard
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Daniel Hofmann  wrote:
>
> If you take a look at the car profile, you will see a ferry_mode variable,
> that sets the travel mode:
>
>
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/profiles/car.lua#L151
>
> If you set this to 0 (i.e. 'inaccessible") as defined here:
>
>
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/data_structures/travel_mode.hpp#L34-L35
>
> then the extractor discards ferry routes because you marked them
> inaccessible.
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Peter Becker  wrote:
>
>> Hello, i dont want any ferries in my routes. Is this possible?
>>
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Re: [OSRM-talk] How to disable all ferry routes?

[Richard Marsden]

By coincidence I was working through the lua scripts trying to understand them.

So what is the significance of the 1,2,3?  Just unique identifiers. As long as 
they're non-zero, they will be enabled?

Richard

On Nov 11, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Daniel Hofmann  wrote:

> If you take a look at the car profile, you will see a ferry_mode variable, 
> that sets the travel mode:
> 
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/profiles/car.lua#L151
> 
> If you set this to 0 (i.e. 'inaccessible") as defined here:
> 
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/data_structures/travel_mode.hpp#L34-L35
> 
> then the extractor discards ferry routes because you marked them inaccessible.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Peter Becker  wrote:
> Hello, i dont want any ferries in my routes. Is this possible?
> 
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Re: [OSRM-talk] Extended graph output file

[Daniel Patterson]

Sorry, autocorrect modified my last email.  To enable, do: `cmake 
-DDEBUG_GEOMETRY=ON ..`

daniel

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Sotorrio, Pedro  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Daniel!
> 
> —Pedro
> 
> From: Daniel Patterson mailto:dan...@mapbox.com>>
> Reply-To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM  >
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 2:16 PM
> To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM  >
> Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] Extended graph output file
> 
> Pedro,
> 
>   There is some work-in-progress on the `edge_segment_lookup` branch that can 
> give you some insight.  If you enable the `-DDEBUG_GEOMETRY` flag with 
> `make`, then `osrm-extract` and `osrm-prepare` can be instructed (with a new 
> command-line parameter) to dump out some geometry information in GeoJSON 
> format.
> 
>   `osrm-extract` will dump out turn and stop-sign penalties with coordinates 
> and bearings.
>   `osrm-prepare` will dump out individual segment weights (deciseconds) and 
> speed values used in the final routing graph.
> 
>   It's not super-easy to use, but it gives complete insight into the routing 
> graph in a visual form.  You can load the files into QGIS for visualization.
> 
> daniel
> 
> 
>> On Nov 11, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Sotorrio, Pedro > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks a lot, Daniel!
>> 
>> —Pedro
>> 
>> From: Daniel Hofmann mailto:hofm...@mapbox.com>>
>> Reply-To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM > >
>> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 1:26 PM
>> To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM > >
>> Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] Extended graph output file
>> 
>> The edge-expanded graph already gets written to disk; this was introduced in 
>> the following commit:
>> 
>> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/commit/e45656e5bfb0b61a2859f0c754e66322996f1640
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> which is not yet in the latest release, so you have to build from the 
>> develop branch.
>> 
>> 
>> If you search for ebg you will see related files:
>> 
>> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=ebg 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Word of caution: the serialization in OSRM is done by just dumping internal 
>> datastructures in binary format.
>> This is neither a portable between operating systems, compilers or even 
>> standard libraries, nor a stable format, and in particular not intended to 
>> be read from other programs.
>> You would have to get the data structure layout right, in order to make use 
>> of the ebg file from other programs.
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Sotorrio, Pedro > > wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I’m new in OSRM but my understanding is that the graph output file in OSRM 
>>> is a binary file, correct?
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to write out the edged expanded graph (with turns) to a 
>>> readable file?
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot in advance,
>>> 
>>> Pedro
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [OSRM-talk] Extended graph output file

[Sotorrio, Pedro]

Thanks, Daniel!

—Pedro

From: Daniel Patterson mailto:dan...@mapbox.com>>
Reply-To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM 
mailto:osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org>>
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 2:16 PM
To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM 
mailto:osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org>>
Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] Extended graph output file

Pedro,

  There is some work-in-progress on the `edge_segment_lookup` branch that can 
give you some insight.  If you enable the `-DDEBUG_GEOMETRY` flag with `make`, 
then `osrm-extract` and `osrm-prepare` can be instructed (with a new 
command-line parameter) to dump out some geometry information in GeoJSON format.

  `osrm-extract` will dump out turn and stop-sign penalties with coordinates 
and bearings.
  `osrm-prepare` will dump out individual segment weights (deciseconds) and 
speed values used in the final routing graph.

  It's not super-easy to use, but it gives complete insight into the routing 
graph in a visual form.  You can load the files into QGIS for visualization.

daniel


On Nov 11, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Sotorrio, Pedro 
mailto:sotorr...@llnl.gov>> wrote:

Thanks a lot, Daniel!

—Pedro

From: Daniel Hofmann mailto:hofm...@mapbox.com>>
Reply-To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM 
mailto:osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org>>
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 1:26 PM
To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM 
mailto:osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org>>
Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] Extended graph output file

The edge-expanded graph already gets written to disk; this was introduced in 
the following commit:

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/commit/e45656e5bfb0b61a2859f0c754e66322996f1640

which is not yet in the latest release, so you have to build from the develop 
branch.


If you search for ebg you will see related files:

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=ebg


Word of caution: the serialization in OSRM is done by just dumping internal 
datastructures in binary format.
This is neither a portable between operating systems, compilers or even 
standard libraries, nor a stable format, and in particular not intended to be 
read from other programs.
You would have to get the data structure layout right, in order to make use of 
the ebg file from other programs.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Sotorrio, Pedro 
mailto:sotorr...@llnl.gov>> wrote:
Hello,

I’m new in OSRM but my understanding is that the graph output file in OSRM is a 
binary file, correct?

Is there a way to write out the edged expanded graph (with turns) to a readable 
file?

Thanks a lot in advance,

Pedro



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Re: [OSRM-talk] Extended graph output file

[Daniel Patterson]

Pedro,

  There is some work-in-progress on the `edge_segment_lookup` branch that can 
give you some insight.  If you enable the `-DDEBUG_GEOMETRY` flag with `make`, 
then `osrm-extract` and `osrm-prepare` can be instructed (with a new 
command-line parameter) to dump out some geometry information in GeoJSON format.

  `osrm-extract` will dump out turn and stop-sign penalties with coordinates 
and bearings.
  `osrm-prepare` will dump out individual segment weights (deciseconds) and 
speed values used in the final routing graph.

  It's not super-easy to use, but it gives complete insight into the routing 
graph in a visual form.  You can load the files into QGIS for visualization.

daniel


> On Nov 11, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Sotorrio, Pedro  wrote:
> 
> Thanks a lot, Daniel!
> 
> —Pedro
> 
> From: Daniel Hofmann mailto:hofm...@mapbox.com>>
> Reply-To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM  >
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 1:26 PM
> To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM  >
> Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] Extended graph output file
> 
> The edge-expanded graph already gets written to disk; this was introduced in 
> the following commit:
> 
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/commit/e45656e5bfb0b61a2859f0c754e66322996f1640
>  
> 
> 
> which is not yet in the latest release, so you have to build from the develop 
> branch.
> 
> 
> If you search for ebg you will see related files:
> 
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=ebg 
> 
> 
> 
> Word of caution: the serialization in OSRM is done by just dumping internal 
> datastructures in binary format.
> This is neither a portable between operating systems, compilers or even 
> standard libraries, nor a stable format, and in particular not intended to be 
> read from other programs.
> You would have to get the data structure layout right, in order to make use 
> of the ebg file from other programs.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Sotorrio, Pedro  > wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I’m new in OSRM but my understanding is that the graph output file in OSRM 
>> is a binary file, correct?
>> 
>> Is there a way to write out the edged expanded graph (with turns) to a 
>> readable file?
>> 
>> Thanks a lot in advance,
>> 
>> Pedro
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSRM-talk] Extended graph output file

[Sotorrio, Pedro]

Thanks a lot, Daniel!

—Pedro

From: Daniel Hofmann mailto:hofm...@mapbox.com>>
Reply-To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM 
mailto:osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org>>
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 1:26 PM
To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM 
mailto:osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org>>
Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] Extended graph output file

The edge-expanded graph already gets written to disk; this was introduced in 
the following commit:

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/commit/e45656e5bfb0b61a2859f0c754e66322996f1640

which is not yet in the latest release, so you have to build from the develop 
branch.


If you search for ebg you will see related files:

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=ebg


Word of caution: the serialization in OSRM is done by just dumping internal 
datastructures in binary format.
This is neither a portable between operating systems, compilers or even 
standard libraries, nor a stable format, and in particular not intended to be 
read from other programs.
You would have to get the data structure layout right, in order to make use of 
the ebg file from other programs.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Sotorrio, Pedro 
mailto:sotorr...@llnl.gov>> wrote:
Hello,

I’m new in OSRM but my understanding is that the graph output file in OSRM is a 
binary file, correct?

Is there a way to write out the edged expanded graph (with turns) to a readable 
file?

Thanks a lot in advance,

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Re: [OSRM-talk] Extended graph output file

[Daniel Hofmann]

The edge-expanded graph already gets written to disk; this was introduced
in the following commit:

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/commit/e45656e5bfb0b61a2859f0c754e66322996f1640

which is not yet in the latest release, so you have to build from the
develop branch.


If you search for ebg you will see related files:

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=ebg


Word of caution: the serialization in OSRM is done by just dumping internal
datastructures in binary format.
This is neither a portable between operating systems, compilers or even
standard libraries, nor a stable format, and in particular not intended to
be read from other programs.
You would have to get the data structure layout right, in order to make use
of the ebg file from other programs.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Sotorrio, Pedro  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I’m new in OSRM but my understanding is that the graph output file in OSRM
> is a binary file, correct?
>
> Is there a way to write out the edged expanded graph (with turns) to a
> readable file?
>
> Thanks a lot in advance,
>
> Pedro
>
>
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[OSRM-talk] Extended graph output file

[Sotorrio, Pedro]

Hello,

I’m new in OSRM but my understanding is that the graph output file in OSRM is a 
binary file, correct?

Is there a way to write out the edged expanded graph (with turns) to a readable 
file?

Thanks a lot in advance,

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Re: [OSRM-talk] URL Parameters

[MapsMarker.com]

Hi Daniel,

thanks for the link to details - I guess the best long-term approach will be
to set up my own OSRM instance, anyway this will still need some time...

best,

Robert

 

 

Hi Robert,
 
  See https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/wiki/Api-usage-policy
 for our
published policy on this.  The service you can access publicly is a *demo*
service, and can change at any time, for any reason.
 
  If your customers need a reliable routing service, there are numerous
OSRM-based routing services that can offer API stability and an SLA.  You
could offer those integrated into your commercial Wordpress plugin.  You
could host your own OSRM instance as well.
 
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Re: [OSRM-talk] URL parameters for

[MapsMarker.com]

Hi Patrick,

 

too bad to hear that. When I started coding my plugin in 2011, there was no
commercial version available yet when I added map.project-osrm.org as
directions provider and that parts of the code were not changed since then &
also used within the pro version. Personally I thought that this was
actually a win-win-situation - especially with regards of the number of
overall user, growing steadily over the last years (~50.000 active users
currently) which got to know map.project-osrm.org through the usage of my
plugins.  Anyway it could help others in similar situations, if the info
about commercial usage would be available directly on
http://map.project-osrm.org/.

 

As requested I will remove map.project-osrm.org as directions provider from
all of my plugins (as they share the code for directions provider) with the
next release, to be released probably next week & refrain from any linking
to the project.

 

best,

 

Robert

 

 

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From: Patrick Niklaus mailto:patrick.nikl...@student.kit.edu> >

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Mapsmarker.com seems to be a commercial service. We only offer access to the
demo server for non-commercial services. Please remove OSRM from your
commercial service and refrain from linking `map.project-osrm.org` or using
`router.project-osrm.org`.

 

Thank you,

Patrick

 

 

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Re: [OSRM-talk] URL parameters for

[Daniel Patterson]

Hi Robert,

  See https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/wiki/Api-usage-policy 
 for our 
published policy on this.  The service you can access publicly is a *demo* 
service, and can change at any time, for any reason.

  If your customers need a reliable routing service, there are numerous 
OSRM-based routing services that can offer API stability and an SLA.  You could 
offer those integrated into your commercial Wordpress plugin.  You could host 
your own OSRM instance as well.

daniel

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:07 PM, MapsMarker.com  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the prompt reply Daniel! I added support for map.project-osrm.org 
>  when I created my plugins back in 2012 - 
> havent changed the implementation in the meantime, just got notified by users 
> that it is not working anymore, so I am trying to fix this.
>  
> Regarding LRM: I am aware of that plugin & have been playing around with it 
> for a while - anyway it will still take some time, until I can offer 
> directions directly within my plugin - until this is possible, I want to give 
> my users the possibility to link to third-party directions provider. See demo 
> settings panel at 
> https://demo.mapsmarker.com/wp-admin/admin.php?page=leafletmapsmarker_settings#lmm-directions
>  
> 
> best,
>  
> Robert
>  
>  
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:54:10 -0500
> From: Daniel Patterson mailto:dan...@mapbox.com>>
> To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM  >
> Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] URL parameters for
> http://map.project-osrm.org  -   
> supporting end point only?
> Message-ID: <89d7a253-49df-4edb-8e76-7b536d8d6...@mapbox.com 
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi Robert,
> 
>   http://map.project-orsm.org/  
> > isn't really 
> intended for linking to like your'e describing.  It's more of a demo 
> interface to OSRM itself.
> 
>   Have you explored using LRM (Leaflet Routing Machine) 
> http://www.liedman.net/leaflet-routing-machine/ 
>   > and drawing routes on 
> your own Leaflet  ?
> 
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Re: [OSRM-talk] URL parameters for

[Patrick Niklaus]

Mapsmarker.com seems to be a commercial service. We only offer access
to the demo server for non-commercial services. Please remove OSRM
from your commercial service and refrain from linking
`map.project-osrm.org` or using `router.project-osrm.org`.

Thank you,
Patrick

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:07 PM, MapsMarker.com  wrote:
> Thanks for the prompt reply Daniel! I added support for map.project-osrm.org
> when I created my plugins back in 2012 - havent changed the implementation
> in the meantime, just got notified by users that it is not working anymore,
> so I am trying to fix this.
>
>
>
> Regarding LRM: I am aware of that plugin & have been playing around with it
> for a while - anyway it will still take some time, until I can offer
> directions directly within my plugin - until this is possible, I want to
> give my users the possibility to link to third-party directions provider.
> See demo settings panel at
> https://demo.mapsmarker.com/wp-admin/admin.php?page=leafletmapsmarker_settings#lmm-directions
>
> best,
>
>
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:54:10 -0500
> From: Daniel Patterson 
> To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM 
> Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] URL parameters for
> http://map.project-osrm.org -   supporting end point only?
> Message-ID: <89d7a253-49df-4edb-8e76-7b536d8d6...@mapbox.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Robert,
>
>   http://map.project-orsm.org/  isn't really
> intended for linking to like your'e describing.  It's more of a demo
> interface to OSRM itself.
>
>   Have you explored using LRM (Leaflet Routing Machine)
> http://www.liedman.net/leaflet-routing-machine/
>  and drawing routes on your
> own Leaflet  ?
>
> daniel
>
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Re: [OSRM-talk] Some OSRM Match questions

[Artur Bialecki]

I'm not sure how --max-matching-size works. I'm running osrm-routed  (v4.8.1) 
without any options and I’m successfully matching a trip with 815 locations.

Artur...

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From: Paul Friedman [mailto:paul.fried...@streetlightdata.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:29 PM
To: osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] Some OSRM Match questions

Sorry, wrong subject line.  Reposting to link the thread.

I'm also starting to use this API (and completely love the results).

It appears the default for –max-matching-size is 2.  Is there a reason the 
limit is so low (or is it even enforced?)?  Thanks.

---Paul

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 00:07:32 +0100
From: Patrick Niklaus 
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Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] Some OSRM Match questions
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> Which is the recommended way?

Increase the locations limit. Stitching together split traces might not yield 
the expected result (start/end points at the split don't have to match). In 
general the more data you provide, the better the algorithm is able to work.

> Are the timestamps used as part of the Hidden-Markov-Model algorithm?

They don't influence the emission probabilities or transition probabilities, 
but are used for detecting outliers and gaps (simple example is driving through 
a tunnel). You should provide the data if you have it.

> In my response to a match query I’m getting hint_data.

You can use hint_data as additional input to viaroute. It enables unambiguous 
coordinate snapping (important if you want to match first and then extract 
additional information). As with viaroute it cannot be turned off (also adds no 
real overhead anyway).



On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Artur Bialecki 
wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I’m new to OSRM and I have few question regarding the map matching API.
>
> I’m using version v4.8.1.
>
>
>
> If I have a trip with 1000 locations, what are the implications of
> setting
>
> –max-matching-size option of osrm-routed as oppose to splitting the
> trip
>
> into 10 requests with 100 locations each and stitching together the
> responses?
>
> Which is the recommended way?
>
>
>
> The match API takes locations and optional timestamps for each location.
>
> Are the timestamps used as part of the Hidden-Markov-Model algorithm?
>
> Is the match quality or performance affected when using the timestamps?
>
>
>
> In my response to a match query I’m getting hint_data.
>
> The API documentation does not mention this. Is hint_data usable for
> match
>
> requests? If so how? If not, now do I turn it off?
>
>
>
> Is there a way to turn off logging of requests by osrm-routed, other
> than sending them to /dev/null?
>
>
>
> Is there any documentation on using profile.lua?
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Artur Bialecki.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OSRM-talk] Some OSRM Match questions

[Paul Friedman]

Sorry, wrong subject line.  Reposting to link the thread.

I'm also starting to use this API (and completely love the results).

It appears the default for –max-matching-size is 2.  Is there a reason the
limit is so low (or is it even enforced?)?  Thanks.

---Paul

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 00:07:32 +0100
From: Patrick Niklaus 
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> Which is the recommended way?

Increase the locations limit. Stitching together split traces might not
yield the expected result (start/end points at the split don't have to
match). In general the more data you provide, the better the algorithm is
able to work.

> Are the timestamps used as part of the Hidden-Markov-Model algorithm?

They don't influence the emission probabilities or transition probabilities,
but are used for detecting outliers and gaps (simple example is driving
through a tunnel). You should provide the data if you have it.

> In my response to a match query I’m getting hint_data.

You can use hint_data as additional input to viaroute. It enables
unambiguous coordinate snapping (important if you want to match first and
then extract additional information). As with viaroute it cannot be turned
off (also adds no real overhead anyway).



On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Artur Bialecki 
wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I’m new to OSRM and I have few question regarding the map matching API.
>
> I’m using version v4.8.1.
>
>
>
> If I have a trip with 1000 locations, what are the implications of
> setting
>
> –max-matching-size option of osrm-routed as oppose to splitting the
> trip
>
> into 10 requests with 100 locations each and stitching together the
> responses?
>
> Which is the recommended way?
>
>
>
> The match API takes locations and optional timestamps for each location.
>
> Are the timestamps used as part of the Hidden-Markov-Model algorithm?
>
> Is the match quality or performance affected when using the timestamps?
>
>
>
> In my response to a match query I’m getting hint_data.
>
> The API documentation does not mention this. Is hint_data usable for
> match
>
> requests? If so how? If not, now do I turn it off?
>
>
>
> Is there a way to turn off logging of requests by osrm-routed, other
> than sending them to /dev/null?
>
>
>
> Is there any documentation on using profile.lua?
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Artur Bialecki.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OSRM-talk] URL parameters for

[MapsMarker.com]

Thanks for the prompt reply Daniel! I added support for map.project-osrm.org
when I created my plugins back in 2012 - havent changed the implementation
in the meantime, just got notified by users that it is not working anymore,
so I am trying to fix this.

 

Regarding LRM: I am aware of that plugin & have been playing around with it
for a while - anyway it will still take some time, until I can offer
directions directly within my plugin - until this is possible, I want to
give my users the possibility to link to third-party directions provider.
See demo settings panel at
https://demo.mapsmarker.com/wp-admin/admin.php?page=leafletmapsmarker_settin
gs#lmm-directions

best,

 

Robert

 

 

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:54:10 -0500
From: Daniel Patterson mailto:dan...@mapbox.com> >
To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM mailto:osrm-talk@openstreetmap.org> >
Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] URL parameters for
http://map.project-osrm.org -   supporting end point only?
Message-ID: <89d7a253-49df-4edb-8e76-7b536d8d6...@mapbox.com
 >
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi Robert,

  http://map.project-orsm.org/  isn't really
intended for linking to like your'e describing.  It's more of a demo
interface to OSRM itself.

  Have you explored using LRM (Leaflet Routing Machine)
http://www.liedman.net/leaflet-routing-machine/
 and drawing routes on your
own Leaflet  ?

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Re: [OSRM-talk] OSRM-talk Digest, Vol 35, Issue 7

[Paul Friedman]

I'm also starting to use this API (and completely love the results).

It appears the default for –max-matching-size is 2.  Is there a reason the
limit is so low (or is it even enforced?)?  Thanks.

---Paul

-Original Message-
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 00:07:32 +0100
From: Patrick Niklaus 
To: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM 
Subject: Re: [OSRM-talk] Some OSRM Match questions
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> Which is the recommended way?

Increase the locations limit. Stitching together split traces might not
yield the expected result (start/end points at the split don't have to
match). In general the more data you provide, the better the algorithm is
able to work.

> Are the timestamps used as part of the Hidden-Markov-Model algorithm?

They don't influence the emission probabilities or transition probabilities,
but are used for detecting outliers and gaps (simple example is driving
through a tunnel). You should provide the data if you have it.

> In my response to a match query I’m getting hint_data.

You can use hint_data as additional input to viaroute. It enables
unambiguous coordinate snapping (important if you want to match first and
then extract additional information). As with viaroute it cannot be turned
off (also adds no real overhead anyway).



On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Artur Bialecki 
wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I’m new to OSRM and I have few question regarding the map matching API.
>
> I’m using version v4.8.1.
>
>
>
> If I have a trip with 1000 locations, what are the implications of
> setting
>
> –max-matching-size option of osrm-routed as oppose to splitting the
> trip
>
> into 10 requests with 100 locations each and stitching together the
> responses?
>
> Which is the recommended way?
>
>
>
> The match API takes locations and optional timestamps for each location.
>
> Are the timestamps used as part of the Hidden-Markov-Model algorithm?
>
> Is the match quality or performance affected when using the timestamps?
>
>
>
> In my response to a match query I’m getting hint_data.
>
> The API documentation does not mention this. Is hint_data usable for
> match
>
> requests? If so how? If not, now do I turn it off?
>
>
>
> Is there a way to turn off logging of requests by osrm-routed, other
> than sending them to /dev/null?
>
>
>
> Is there any documentation on using profile.lua?
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Artur Bialecki.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This e-mail message is confidential, may be privileged and is intended
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Re: [OSRM-talk] URL parameters for http://map.project-osrm.org - supporting end point only?

[Daniel Patterson]

Hi Robert,

  http://map.project-orsm.org/  isn't really 
intended for linking to like your'e describing.  It's more of a demo interface 
to OSRM itself.

  Have you explored using LRM (Leaflet Routing Machine) 
http://www.liedman.net/leaflet-routing-machine/ 
 and drawing routes on your 
own Leaflet  ?

daniel

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:47 PM, MapsMarker.com  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am the developer of the WordPress mapping plugins Leaflet Maps Marker 
> (https://wordpress.org/plugins/leaflet-maps-marker/ 
> ) and Maps Marker Pro 
> (https://www.mapsmarker.com ). Both plugins 
> include support for different directions providers - one of them is OSRM and 
> directions links are linking directly to map.project-osrm.org 
> . I noticed that the URL schema I used so far 
> seemed to have changed and the map is now always centered on Washington 
> (example link produced by my plugin currently: 
> http://map.project-osrm.org/?hl=en&loc=48.292787,16.092911&df=0 
> )
> 
> I did some research and found that the URL parameters have changed and that 
> new parameters like "center" are required.
> 
> Anyway I am having issues supporting the new URL scheme, because I only want 
> to set the end point for directions as I do not know where the user wants to 
> start. I tried this by using the following URL for example:
> http://map.project-osrm.org/?z=13¢er=48.242330%2C16.433030&loc=48.242330%2C16.433030&loc=&hl=en&ly=&alt=&df=&srv=
>  
> 
> The main issue is that if only 1 loc parameter is set, the input form field 
> for start point remains empty, resulting in a non usable link for my plugin 
> users.
> 
> The current workaround for this issue is to set both loc parameters to the 
> same lat+lon values (like 
> http://map.project-osrm.org/?z=13¢er=48.242330%2C16.433030&loc=48.242330%2C16.433030&loc=48.242330%2C16.433030&hl=en&ly=&alt=&df=&srv=
>  
> )
>  - this results in start+end point form fields being populated - anyway this 
> is suboptimal, as the user has to delete the start form field and enter where 
> he wants to start.
> 
> I searched the wiki but couldnt find a way how this could be solved. Is there 
> a way to use a URL like 
> http://map.project-osrm.org/?z=13¢er=48.242330%2C16.433030&loc=48.242330%2C16.433030&loc=&hl=en&ly=&alt=&df=&srv=
>  
> 
>  with only 1 loc parameter set which prefills the endpoint for directions so 
> that the user only has to set the start point for directions? If not, is 
> there a chance that the site gets updated to support that?
> 
> Any help would really be appreciated!
> best,
> 
> Robert
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[OSRM-talk] URL parameters for http://map.project-osrm.org - supporting end point only?

[MapsMarker.com]

Hello,

I am the developer of the WordPress mapping plugins Leaflet Maps Marker
(https://wordpress.org/plugins/leaflet-maps-marker/) and Maps Marker Pro
(https://www.mapsmarker.com). Both plugins include support for different
directions providers - one of them is OSRM and directions links are linking
directly to map.project-osrm.org  . I noticed
that the URL schema I used so far seemed to have changed and the map is now
always centered on Washington (example link produced by my plugin currently:
http://map.project-osrm.org/?hl=en

&loc=48.292787,16.092911&df=0)

I did some research and found that the URL parameters have changed and that
new parameters like "center" are required.

Anyway I am having issues supporting the new URL scheme, because I only want
to set the end point for directions as I do not know where the user wants to
start. I tried this by using the following URL for example:
http://map.project-osrm.org/?z=13

¢er=48.242330%2C16.433030&loc=48.242330%2C16.433030&loc=&hl=en&ly=&alt=&
df=&srv=

The main issue is that if only 1 loc parameter is set, the input form field
for start point remains empty, resulting in a non usable link for my plugin
users.

The current workaround for this issue is to set both loc parameters to the
same lat+lon values (like http://map.project-osrm.org/?z=13

¢er=48.242330%2C16.433030&loc=48.242330%2C16.433030&loc=48.242330%2C16.4
33030&hl=en&ly=&alt=&df=&srv=) - this results in start+end point form fields
being populated - anyway this is suboptimal, as the user has to delete the
start form field and enter where he wants to start.

I searched the wiki but couldnt find a way how this could be solved. Is
there a way to use a URL like http://map.project-osrm.org/?z=13

¢er=48.242330%2C16.433030&loc=48.242330%2C16.433030&loc=&hl=en&ly=&alt=&
df=&srv= with only 1 loc parameter set which prefills the endpoint for
directions so that the user only has to set the start point for directions?
If not, is there a chance that the site gets updated to support that?

Any help would really be appreciated!

best,

Robert

 

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Re: [OSRM-talk] How to disable all ferry routes?

[Peter Becker]

Thank you this works

2015-11-11 16:23 GMT+01:00 Daniel Hofmann :
> If you take a look at the car profile, you will see a ferry_mode variable,
> that sets the travel mode:
>
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/profiles/car.lua#L151
>
> If you set this to 0 (i.e. 'inaccessible") as defined here:
>
> https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/data_structures/travel_mode.hpp#L34-L35
>
> then the extractor discards ferry routes because you marked them
> inaccessible.
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Peter Becker  wrote:
>>
>> Hello, i dont want any ferries in my routes. Is this possible?
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Re: [OSRM-talk] How to disable all ferry routes?

[Daniel Hofmann]

If you take a look at the car profile, you will see a ferry_mode variable,
that sets the travel mode:

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/profiles/car.lua#L151

If you set this to 0 (i.e. 'inaccessible") as defined here:

https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/8f6fc0146ba76d34d20c5b7a87b75249bbb12b82/data_structures/travel_mode.hpp#L34-L35

then the extractor discards ferry routes because you marked them
inaccessible.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Peter Becker  wrote:

> Hello, i dont want any ferries in my routes. Is this possible?
>
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Re: [OSRM-talk] Some OSRM Match questions

[Daniel Patterson]

If you're using osrm-routed, there's no real limit.  That actually screams 
Denial Of Service at me, we should consider implementing something.

Currently, the only limit would be on the client side.

daniel

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:25 AM, Sander Deryckere  wrote:
> 
> I think you can also be limited by the maximum length of the url: 
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2659952/maximum-length-of-http-get-request 
> 
> If you have 1000 points, each with exact lat-lon, timestamp and hint, you'll 
> easily reach the max. Encoding it as a polyline might help to increase that 
> limit, but I don't know how to pass timestamps and hint data that way.
> 
> Regards,
> Sander
> 
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[OSRM-talk] How to disable all ferry routes?

[Peter Becker]

Hello, i dont want any ferries in my routes. Is this possible?

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