Re: [OSRM-talk] Use another data source than OSM
Patrick Niklaus wrote: I think cycle.travel runs on data from Ordnance Survy. So it is absolutely doable, but I don't think you will find any importers (targeting OSRM) for commercial data sources as OpenSource. (most providers require you to sign a NDA before you are allowed to even look at the documentation...). cycle.travel runs on OSM data, but it's augmented with supplementary data from Ordnance Survey and other sources. I use a little homegrown tool to add extra tags to the ways in the OSM .pbf: https://github.com/systemed/tagmangle Romain - I'd suggest you start by creating a small .osm file with an extract of your converted data (say, a town or county) and running OSRM over that. As Patrick says, there are a few gotchas with connectivity and tags. Once you're happy with that, you can rewrite your tool to create a .pbf. cheers Richard ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
Re: [OSRM-talk] Use another data source than OSM
Hi, Thank you both for your reply. It help me a lot. @Mohammed : I am very interested about all details information you can provide. @Patrick : Since I work for the National Mapping Agency of France, I have no problems with commercial data sources. We have a huge database full of geodata in all kind. Unfortunately, this data are not made for navigation, so we studding the possibility to adapt these data to a routing machine. OSRM can be the solution. Thanks again, I'll let you know the results of the possibility to doing that if you're interested. Regards, Romain Wieser ___ Analyste |Pôle technique du Géoportail - Division Services (IDES) *Direction des Services et du Système d'Information (D2SI) * T + 33(0)1 43 98 62 52 ●Poste 6252 73, AVENUE DE PARIS, 94165 Saint-Mandé cedex ign.fr - geoportail.gouv.fr On 21/05/2015 19:02, Patrick Niklaus wrote: Hey Romain, Mohammed already outlined the two options you have. In general I would suggest using the second options, since producing correct `.osrm.*` files is pretty complex and error prone. Also we don't keep that format stable as the interplay between `osrm-extract` and `osrm-prepare` often changes if you add new features. You have a much better chance of translating your data to something that looks like the OSM data model. A few things to keep in mind: - Some importers seem to screw up the connectivity of street segments - You need to figure out a good mapping from attributes of your source material to OSM tags if you want to use the profiles provided by OSRM - If your data is rather big, consider generating an OSM file in PBF form [1] (the XML format just does not scale for continental/planet-size data) I think cycle.travel runs on data from Ordnance Survy. So it is absolutely doable, but I don't think you will find any importers (targeting OSRM) for commercial data sources as OpenSource. (most providers require you to sign a NDA before you are allowed to even look at the documentation...). Best, Patrick [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/PBF_Format On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Mohammed Ayoub NEGGAZ wrote: Hello Wieser, The extractor used the osmium library which can only handle osm files. Therefore, you need to either : 1. Create your own parser that should generates 4 files (.osrm, .osrm.nodes, .osrm.names, .osrm.timestamp*) from the input document you got (you have the option to not use a profile file if your datatype contain weights or speed limits of each road segment aswell as restrictions). 2. Convert your datatype to OSM 0.6 (XML/PBF or other), I think there are too many tools that can do this, ArcGIS can, I guess, import export from the most commonly used geographical data. * I can send you details information about the structure of these files as well as datatypes and methods to write/read them. I hope this answer help you. Good luck. Best regards, 2015-05-21 16:36 GMT+02:00 Romain Wieser : Hello OSRM community, For test purpose, I try to extract road network from an other source that OSM. Anybody actually use a different source and be disposed to share the experience ? Furthermore, I wonder if there is more documentation about the extractor tool as well as the lua scripting for profiles. Thank you in advance, Romain Wieser ___ Analyste | Pôle technique du Géoportail - Division Services (IDES) Direction des Services et du Système d'Information (D2SI) T + 33(0)1 43 98 62 52 ● Poste 6252 73, AVENUE DE PARIS, 94165 Saint-Mandé cedex ign.fr - geoportail.gouv.fr ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
Re: [OSRM-talk] Use another data source than OSM
Hey Romain, Mohammed already outlined the two options you have. In general I would suggest using the second options, since producing correct `.osrm.*` files is pretty complex and error prone. Also we don't keep that format stable as the interplay between `osrm-extract` and `osrm-prepare` often changes if you add new features. You have a much better chance of translating your data to something that looks like the OSM data model. A few things to keep in mind: - Some importers seem to screw up the connectivity of street segments - You need to figure out a good mapping from attributes of your source material to OSM tags if you want to use the profiles provided by OSRM - If your data is rather big, consider generating an OSM file in PBF form [1] (the XML format just does not scale for continental/planet-size data) I think cycle.travel runs on data from Ordnance Survy. So it is absolutely doable, but I don't think you will find any importers (targeting OSRM) for commercial data sources as OpenSource. (most providers require you to sign a NDA before you are allowed to even look at the documentation...). Best, Patrick [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/PBF_Format On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Mohammed Ayoub NEGGAZ wrote: > Hello Wieser, > > The extractor used the osmium library which can only handle osm files. > Therefore, you need to either : > > 1. Create your own parser that should generates 4 files (.osrm, .osrm.nodes, > .osrm.names, .osrm.timestamp*) from the input document you got (you have the > option to not use a profile file if your datatype contain weights or speed > limits of each road segment aswell as restrictions). > > 2. Convert your datatype to OSM 0.6 (XML/PBF or other), I think there are > too many tools that can do this, ArcGIS can, I guess, import export from the > most commonly used geographical data. > > * I can send you details information about the structure of these files as > well as datatypes and methods to write/read them. > > I hope this answer help you. > > Good luck. > Best regards, > > 2015-05-21 16:36 GMT+02:00 Romain Wieser : >> >> Hello OSRM community, >> >> For test purpose, I try to extract road network from an other source that >> OSM. Anybody actually use a different source and be disposed to share the >> experience ? >> >> Furthermore, I wonder if there is more documentation about the extractor >> tool as well as the lua scripting for profiles. >> >> Thank you in advance, >> >> Romain Wieser >> ___ >> Analyste | Pôle technique du Géoportail - Division Services (IDES) >> Direction des Services et du Système d'Information (D2SI) >> T + 33(0)1 43 98 62 52 ● Poste 6252 >> 73, AVENUE DE PARIS, 94165 Saint-Mandé cedex >> ign.fr - geoportail.gouv.fr >> >> ___ >> OSRM-talk mailing list >> OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk >> > > > ___ > OSRM-talk mailing list > OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk > ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
Re: [OSRM-talk] Use another data source than OSM
Hello Wieser, The extractor used the osmium library which can only handle osm files. Therefore, you need to either : 1. Create your own parser that should generates 4 files (.osrm, .osrm.nodes, .osrm.names, .osrm.timestamp*) from the input document you got (you have the option to not use a profile file if your datatype contain weights or speed limits of each road segment aswell as restrictions). 2. Convert your datatype to OSM 0.6 (XML/PBF or other), I think there are too many tools that can do this, ArcGIS can, I guess, import export from the most commonly used geographical data. * I can send you details information about the structure of these files as well as datatypes and methods to write/read them. I hope this answer help you. Good luck. Best regards, 2015-05-21 16:36 GMT+02:00 Romain Wieser : > Hello OSRM community, > > For test purpose, I try to extract road network from an other source that > OSM. Anybody actually use a different source and be disposed to share the > experience ? > > Furthermore, I wonder if there is more documentation about the extractor > tool as well as the lua scripting for profiles. > > Thank you in advance, > > Romain Wieser > ___ > Analyste | Pôle technique du Géoportail - Division Services (IDES) > > *Direction des Services et du Système d'Information (D2SI) * > T + 33(0)1 43 98 62 52 ● Poste 6252 > 73, AVENUE DE PARIS, 94165 Saint-Mandé cedex > ign.fr - geoportail.gouv.fr > > ___ > OSRM-talk mailing list > OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk > > ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
[OSRM-talk] Use another data source than OSM
Hello OSRM community, For test purpose, I try to extract road network from an other source that OSM. Anybody actually use a different source and be disposed to share the experience ? Furthermore, I wonder if there is more documentation about the extractor tool as well as the lua scripting for profiles. Thank you in advance, Romain Wieser ___ Analyste |Pôle technique du Géoportail - Division Services (IDES) *Direction des Services et du Système d'Information (D2SI) * T + 33(0)1 43 98 62 52 ●Poste 6252 73, AVENUE DE PARIS, 94165 Saint-Mandé cedex ign.fr - geoportail.gouv.fr ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
