Re: [ossec-list] rootcheck rule at sev 7 (bad word match)?

2015-06-17 Thread Daniel X
Cool. That's what I was looking for.  I think I'm just going to remove my
labeling from the sev levels in my dashboards.  It might be useful to have
a note on that page advising that these labels may not always be true today.

Thanks.

Daniel

On 18 June 2015 at 09:39, dan (ddp)  wrote:

>
> On Jun 17, 2015 7:26 PM, "Daniel X"  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the reply Dan,
> >
> > I understand that line in the default rules.  What I don't understand is
> how Sev 7 is (according to the doc I linked to above):
> >
> >  _07 - “Bad word” matching. They include words like “bad”, “error”, etc.
> These events are most of the time unclassified and may have some security
> relevance.'_
> >
> > yet Sev 11 is described as (and thus seems more fitting to me):
> >
> > _11 - Integrity checking warning - They include messages regarding the
> modification of binaries or the presence of rootkits (by rootcheck)._
> >
> > I'm thinkng this doc may not be entirely correct in it's descriptions so
> will probably just ignore the descriptions.
> >
>
> It's a generic document written probably 10+ years ago. I thought it might
> be interesting in a general or historical sense, so I made sure to include
> it.
> I feel like the severity of the file integrity alerts was lessened or not
> raised to that level because the alerts aren't that interesting.
>
> > Daniel
> >
> > On 17 June 2015 at 23:24, dan (ddp)  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Daniel X 
> wrote:
> >> > Hi OSSECers,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I've recently been working with Splunk dashboarding (using the Splunk
> for
> >> > OSSEC app as a starting point).
> >> >
> >> > One of the features I've expanded is the 'top severities list', where
> I've
> >> > named the severities according to the Rules Classification
> documentation
> >> > (
> http://ossec-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/manual/rules-decoders/rule-levels.html
> )
> >> >
> >> > What I've noticed is that the 'Integrity Checksum Changed' signature
> is
> >> > coming in as Severity 7 (Bad Word Match), and looking into the rules
> I can
> >> > see that reflected, and the only thing I see at sev "11" are the IDS
> rules.
> >> >
> >> > Below are relevant sections in the rules in OSSEC 2.8.1.  Is it
> correct that
> >> > rule id 510 has level="7"?  I'm going to change it 10 11 in my local
> config,
> >> > but it'd be good to know the intentions of this if it's not an
> oversight.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Yes, level 7 appears to be correct:
> >>
> https://github.com/ossec/ossec-hids/blob/master/etc/rules/ossec_rules.xml#L61
> >>
> >> > rules/ids_rules.xml
> >> >  
> >> > 509
> >> > Host-based anomaly detection event
> >> > (rootcheck).
> >> > rootcheck,
> >> > 
> >> >   
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > rules/ids_rules.xml
> >> >   
> >> >   
> >> > 20151
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > srcip, id
> >> > Multiple IDS events from same source ip
> 
> >> > (ignoring now this srcip and id).
> >> >   
> >> >
> >> >   
> >> > 20152
> >> > 
> >> > id
> >> > Multiple IDS alerts for same id 
> >> > (ignoring now this id).
> >> >   
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
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Re: [ossec-list] rootcheck rule at sev 7 (bad word match)?

2015-06-17 Thread dan (ddp)
On Jun 17, 2015 7:26 PM, "Daniel X"  wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply Dan,
>
> I understand that line in the default rules.  What I don't understand is
how Sev 7 is (according to the doc I linked to above):
>
>  _07 - “Bad word” matching. They include words like “bad”, “error”, etc.
These events are most of the time unclassified and may have some security
relevance.'_
>
> yet Sev 11 is described as (and thus seems more fitting to me):
>
> _11 - Integrity checking warning - They include messages regarding the
modification of binaries or the presence of rootkits (by rootcheck)._
>
> I'm thinkng this doc may not be entirely correct in it's descriptions so
will probably just ignore the descriptions.
>

It's a generic document written probably 10+ years ago. I thought it might
be interesting in a general or historical sense, so I made sure to include
it.
I feel like the severity of the file integrity alerts was lessened or not
raised to that level because the alerts aren't that interesting.

> Daniel
>
> On 17 June 2015 at 23:24, dan (ddp)  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Daniel X 
wrote:
>> > Hi OSSECers,
>> >
>> >
>> > I've recently been working with Splunk dashboarding (using the Splunk
for
>> > OSSEC app as a starting point).
>> >
>> > One of the features I've expanded is the 'top severities list', where
I've
>> > named the severities according to the Rules Classification
documentation
>> > (
http://ossec-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/manual/rules-decoders/rule-levels.html
)
>> >
>> > What I've noticed is that the 'Integrity Checksum Changed' signature is
>> > coming in as Severity 7 (Bad Word Match), and looking into the rules I
can
>> > see that reflected, and the only thing I see at sev "11" are the IDS
rules.
>> >
>> > Below are relevant sections in the rules in OSSEC 2.8.1.  Is it
correct that
>> > rule id 510 has level="7"?  I'm going to change it 10 11 in my local
config,
>> > but it'd be good to know the intentions of this if it's not an
oversight.
>> >
>>
>> Yes, level 7 appears to be correct:
>>
https://github.com/ossec/ossec-hids/blob/master/etc/rules/ossec_rules.xml#L61
>>
>> > rules/ids_rules.xml
>> >  
>> > 509
>> > Host-based anomaly detection event
>> > (rootcheck).
>> > rootcheck,
>> > 
>> >   
>> >
>> >
>> > rules/ids_rules.xml
>> >   
>> >   
>> > 20151
>> > 
>> > 
>> > srcip, id
>> > Multiple IDS events from same source ip 
>> > (ignoring now this srcip and id).
>> >   
>> >
>> >   
>> > 20152
>> > 
>> > id
>> > Multiple IDS alerts for same id 
>> > (ignoring now this id).
>> >   
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
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Re: [ossec-list] rootcheck rule at sev 7 (bad word match)?

2015-06-17 Thread Daniel X
Thanks for the reply Dan,

I understand that line in the default rules.  What I don't understand is
how Sev 7 is (according to the doc I linked to above):

 _07 - “Bad word” matching. They include words like “bad”, “error”, etc.
These events are most of the time unclassified and may have some security
relevance.'_

yet Sev 11 is described as (and thus seems more fitting to me):

_11 - Integrity checking warning - They include messages regarding the
modification of binaries or the presence of rootkits (by rootcheck)._

I'm thinkng this doc may not be entirely correct in it's descriptions so
will probably just ignore the descriptions.

Daniel

On 17 June 2015 at 23:24, dan (ddp)  wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Daniel X 
> wrote:
> > Hi OSSECers,
> >
> >
> > I've recently been working with Splunk dashboarding (using the Splunk for
> > OSSEC app as a starting point).
> >
> > One of the features I've expanded is the 'top severities list', where
> I've
> > named the severities according to the Rules Classification documentation
> > (
> http://ossec-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/manual/rules-decoders/rule-levels.html
> )
> >
> > What I've noticed is that the 'Integrity Checksum Changed' signature is
> > coming in as Severity 7 (Bad Word Match), and looking into the rules I
> can
> > see that reflected, and the only thing I see at sev "11" are the IDS
> rules.
> >
> > Below are relevant sections in the rules in OSSEC 2.8.1.  Is it correct
> that
> > rule id 510 has level="7"?  I'm going to change it 10 11 in my local
> config,
> > but it'd be good to know the intentions of this if it's not an oversight.
> >
>
> Yes, level 7 appears to be correct:
>
> https://github.com/ossec/ossec-hids/blob/master/etc/rules/ossec_rules.xml#L61
>
> > rules/ids_rules.xml
> >  
> > 509
> > Host-based anomaly detection event
> > (rootcheck).
> > rootcheck,
> > 
> >   
> >
> >
> > rules/ids_rules.xml
> >   
> >   
> > 20151
> > 
> > 
> > srcip, id
> > Multiple IDS events from same source ip 
> > (ignoring now this srcip and id).
> >   
> >
> >   
> > 20152
> > 
> > id
> > Multiple IDS alerts for same id 
> > (ignoring now this id).
> >   
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
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Re: [ossec-list] rootcheck rule at sev 7 (bad word match)?

2015-06-17 Thread dan (ddp)
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Daniel X  wrote:
> Hi OSSECers,
>
>
> I've recently been working with Splunk dashboarding (using the Splunk for
> OSSEC app as a starting point).
>
> One of the features I've expanded is the 'top severities list', where I've
> named the severities according to the Rules Classification documentation
> (http://ossec-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/manual/rules-decoders/rule-levels.html)
>
> What I've noticed is that the 'Integrity Checksum Changed' signature is
> coming in as Severity 7 (Bad Word Match), and looking into the rules I can
> see that reflected, and the only thing I see at sev "11" are the IDS rules.
>
> Below are relevant sections in the rules in OSSEC 2.8.1.  Is it correct that
> rule id 510 has level="7"?  I'm going to change it 10 11 in my local config,
> but it'd be good to know the intentions of this if it's not an oversight.
>

Yes, level 7 appears to be correct:
https://github.com/ossec/ossec-hids/blob/master/etc/rules/ossec_rules.xml#L61

> rules/ids_rules.xml
>  
> 509
> Host-based anomaly detection event
> (rootcheck).
> rootcheck,
> 
>   
>
>
> rules/ids_rules.xml
>   
>   
> 20151
> 
> 
> srcip, id
> Multiple IDS events from same source ip 
> (ignoring now this srcip and id).
>   
>
>   
> 20152
> 
> id
> Multiple IDS alerts for same id 
> (ignoring now this id).
>   
>
> Thanks!
>
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