Re: [otlkcon-devel] Outlook Live

2005-01-20 Thread Kervin L. Pierre
Right, thanks for the correction.
Larry Velez wrote:
How do you think Microsoft will distribute this connector and can the
same technique be used for otlcon?
You mean reverse-engineering the line protocol?  It probably
could be done very easily if the line is clear text and
Microsoft doesn't take steps to prevent this ( eg. regular
'updates' to the client ).
I'll have to wait till I can get my hands on a
copy.
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Kervin
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Re: [otlkcon-devel] Outlook Live

2005-01-20 Thread Helge Hess
On Jan 21, 2005, at 0:27, Kervin L. Pierre wrote:
Outlook Live,
from here seems like yet another Outlook connector from Microsoft.
HotMail always came with a HTTPmail storage provider. I suppose it 
would be trivial for Microsoft to extend that to calendaring/contacts.

Successful completion of OpenConnector would allow any ISP to
offer this very same service to their users.  And at *a lot* cheaper
than $60/month/user I'm sure.
This is $60 per *year* per user. Being cheaper than that ($5/month) is 
probably only viable for very few ISP's with a LOT of customers.

Greets,
  Helge
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Re: [otlkcon-devel] Outlook Live

2005-01-20 Thread Kervin L. Pierre
Larry Velez wrote:
Hi all,
Hello Larry,
I have been following this list for a while and until now it was pretty
much silent.  I'm glad to see some life come back into it.
I just read an article about Microsoft's latest messaging endeavor -
Outlook Live:
http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2005/01/20/microsoft_
to_sell_outlook_e_mail_program/
Outlook live does not affect us at all.  In fact, it will probably
just further validate the "hosted Outlook" market.  Outlook Live,
from here seems like yet another Outlook connector from Microsoft.
This time, their connect to the same system hotmail runs off.
Successful completion of OpenConnector would allow any ISP to
offer this very same service to their users.  And at *a lot* cheaper
than $60/month/user I'm sure.
I don't have a copy of Outlook Live, but this is what it seems like
from their discription.
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[otlkcon-devel] Outlook Live

2005-01-20 Thread Larry Velez

Hi all,

I have been following this list for a while and until now it was pretty
much silent.  I'm glad to see some life come back into it.

I just read an article about Microsoft's latest messaging endeavor -
Outlook Live:

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2005/01/20/microsoft_
to_sell_outlook_e_mail_program/

I have been seeing the trend towards the value proposition being at the
service level rather than at the server/desktop/OS/application level for
a while now.  Gmail and other such offerings gather their value from the
services behind them such as the search technology or massive storage
capabilities.

I'm curious how you see something like Outlook Live affecting efforts
like this project.  Do you think by the time Open Source projects are
able to unravel the mysteries of Microsoft Exchange, Microsoft would
have already moved everyone onto a subscription service they run (MSN).
It seems its only a matter of time before Google, Microsoft and Yahoo
start allowing small business customers to receive email at their own
corporate domains.  Once they do this, it will all but disintegrate the
market for small business groupware systems.

And I know that many people will argue that many companies wouldn't
trust their email to Google or Microsoft or that many companies want to
run their own gear - but from what we see on the front lines of small
business IT: they just want to read their mail and couldn't care less
about these details.  After all most of them started their businesses
using AOL accounts.

Looking forward to your insights,

| Larry Velez | www.sinu.com | 


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