Re: [ovs-discuss] ovn-controller is taking 100% CPU all the time in one deployment

2019-09-02 Thread Numan Siddique
On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 2:48 AM Han Zhou  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:36 PM Numan Siddique 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 1:04 AM Han Zhou  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:16 PM Numan Siddique 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 12:37 AM Han Zhou  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>  On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:40 AM Numan Siddique 
> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hello Everyone,
>  >
>  > In one of the OVN deployments, we are seeing 100% CPU usage by
> ovn-controllers all the time.
>  >
>  > After investigations we found the below
>  >
>  >  - ovn-controller is taking more than 20 seconds to complete full
> loop (mainly in lflow_run() function)
>  >
>  >  - The physical switch is sending GARPs periodically every 10
> seconds.
>  >
>  >  - There is ovn-bridge-mappings configured and these GARP packets
> reaches br-int via the patch port.
>  >
>  >  - We have a flow in router pipeline which applies the action -
> put_arp
>  > if it is arp packet.
>  >
>  >  - ovn-controller pinctrl thread receives these garps, stores the
> learnt mac-ips in the 'put_mac_bindings' hmap and notifies the
> ovn-controller main thread by incrementing the seq no.
>  >
>  >  - In the ovn-controller main thread, after lflow_run() finishes,
> pinctrl_wait() is called. This function calls - poll_immediate_wake() as
> 'put_mac_bindings' hmap is not empty.
>  >
>  > - This causes the ovn-controller poll_block() to not sleep at all
> and this repeats all the time resulting in 100% cpu usage.
>  >
>  > The deployment has OVS/OVN 2.9.  We have back ported the
> pinctrl_thread patch.
>  >
>  > Some time back I had reported an issue about lflow_run() taking lot
> of time -
> https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-dev/2019-July/360414.html
>  >
>  > I think we need to improve the logical processing sooner or later.
>  >
>  > But to fix this issue urgently, we are thinking of the below
> approach.
>  >
>  >  - pinctrl_thread will locally cache the mac_binding entries (just
> like it caches the dns entries). (Please note pinctrl_thread can not access
> the SB DB IDL).
>  >
>  > - Upon receiving any arp packet (via the put_arp action),
> pinctrl_thread will check the local mac_binding cache and will only wake up
> the main ovn-controller thread only if the mac_binding update is required.
>  >
>  > This approach will solve the issue since the MAC sent by the
> physical switches will not change. So there is no need to wake up
> ovn-controller main thread.
>  >
>  > In the present master/2.12 these GARPs will not cause this 100% cpu
> loop issue because incremental processing will not recompute flows.
>  >
>  > Even though the above approach is not really required for
> master/2.12, I think it is still Ok to have this as there is no harm.
>  >
>  > I would like to know your comments and any concerns if any.
>  >
>  > Thanks
>  > Numan
>  >
> 
>  Hi Numan,
> 
>  I think this approach should work. Just to make sure, to update the
> cache efficiently (to avoid another kind of recompute), it should use ovsdb
> change-tracking to update it incrementally.
> 
>  Regarding master/2.12, it is not harmful except that it will add some
> more code and increase memory footprint. For our current use cases, there
> can be easily 10,000s mac_bindings, but it may still be ok because each
> entry is very small. However, is there any benefit for doing this in
> master/2.12?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't see much benefit. But I can't submit a patch to branch 2.9
> without the fix getting merged in master first right ?
> >>> May be once it is merged in branch 2.9, we can consider to delete it ?
> >>>
> >> I think it is just about how would you maintain a downstream branch.
> Since it is downstream, I don't think you need a change to be in upstream
> before fixing a problem. In this case it may be *no harm*, but what if the
> upstream is completely changed and incompatible for such a fix any more? It
> shouldn't prevent you from fixing your downstream. (Of course it is better
> to not have downstream at all, but sometimes it is useful to have it for a
> temporary period, and since you (and us, too) are already there ... :)
> >
> >
> > The dowstream 2.9 what we have is - OVS 2.9.0 + a bunch of patches (to
> fix issues) which are already merged upstream (preferably upstream branch
> or at least upstream master).  Any downstream only patch is frowned upon.
> When we updrade to 2.10 or higher versions there is  a risk of functional
> changes if the patch is not upstream.
> >
> > If we have apply the approach I described above to downstream 2.9 then
> there is definitely some functional change. When such GARPs are received,
> in the case of our downstream 2.9 we will not wake up ovn-controller main
> thread
> > 

Re: [ovs-discuss] ovn-controller is taking 100% CPU all the time in one deployment

2019-08-30 Thread Mark Michelson

On 8/30/19 5:39 AM, Daniel Alvarez Sanchez wrote:

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 10:01 PM Mark Michelson  wrote:


On 8/29/19 2:39 PM, Numan Siddique wrote:

Hello Everyone,

In one of the OVN deployments, we are seeing 100% CPU usage by
ovn-controllers all the time.

After investigations we found the below

   - ovn-controller is taking more than 20 seconds to complete full loop
(mainly in lflow_run() function)

   - The physical switch is sending GARPs periodically every 10 seconds.

   - There is ovn-bridge-mappings configured and these GARP packets
reaches br-int via the patch port.

   - We have a flow in router pipeline which applies the action - put_arp
if it is arp packet.

   - ovn-controller pinctrl thread receives these garps, stores the
learnt mac-ips in the 'put_mac_bindings' hmap and notifies the
ovn-controller main thread by incrementing the seq no.

   - In the ovn-controller main thread, after lflow_run() finishes,
pinctrl_wait() is called. This function calls - poll_immediate_wake() as
'put_mac_bindings' hmap is not empty.

- This causes the ovn-controller poll_block() to not sleep at all and
this repeats all the time resulting in 100% cpu usage.

The deployment has OVS/OVN 2.9.  We have back ported the pinctrl_thread
patch.

Some time back I had reported an issue about lflow_run() taking lot of
time - https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-dev/2019-July/360414.html

I think we need to improve the logical processing sooner or later.


I agree that this is very important. I know that logical flow processing
is the biggest bottleneck for ovn-controller, but 20 seconds is just
ridiculous. In your scale testing, you found that lflow_run() was taking
10 seconds to complete.

I support this statement 100% (20 seconds is just ridiculous). To be
precise, in this deployment we see over 23 seconds for the main loop
to process and I've seen even 30 seconds some times. I've been talking
to Numan these days about this issue and I support profiling this
actual deployment so that we can figure out how incremental processing
would help.



I'm curious if there are any factors in this particular deployment's
configuration that might contribute to this. For instance, does this
deployment have a glut of ACLs? Are they not using port groups?

They're not using port groups because it's 2.9 and it is not there.
However, I don't think port groups would make a big difference in
terms of ovn-controller computation. I might be wrong but Port Groups
help reduce the number of ACLs in the NB database while the # of
Logical Flows would still remain the same. We'll try to get the
contents of the NB database and figure out what's killing it.



You're right that port groups won't reduce the number of logical flows. 
However, it can reduce the computation in ovn-controller. The reason is 
that the logical flows generated by ACLs that use port groups may result 
in conjunctive matches being used. If you want a bit more information, 
see the "Port groups" section of this blog post I wrote:


https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2019/01/02/performance-improvements-in-ovn-past-and-future/

The TL;DR is that with port groups, I saw the number of OpenFlow flows 
generated by ovn-controller drop by 3 orders of magnitude. And that 
meant that flow processing was 99% faster for large networks.


You may not see the same sort of improvement for this deployment, mainly 
because my test case was tailored to illustrate how port groups help. 
There may be other factors in this deployment that complicate flow 
processing.




This particular deployment's configuration may give us a good scenario
for our testing to improve lflow processing time.

Absolutely!




But to fix this issue urgently, we are thinking of the below approach.

   - pinctrl_thread will locally cache the mac_binding entries (just like
it caches the dns entries). (Please note pinctrl_thread can not access
the SB DB IDL).




- Upon receiving any arp packet (via the put_arp action), pinctrl_thread
will check the local mac_binding cache and will only wake up the main
ovn-controller thread only if the mac_binding update is required.

This approach will solve the issue since the MAC sent by the physical
switches will not change. So there is no need to wake up ovn-controller
main thread.


I think this can work well. We have a lot of what's needed already in
pinctrl at this point. We have the hash table of mac bindings already.
Currently, we flush this table after we write the data to the southbound
database. Instead, we would keep the bindings in memory. We would need
to ensure that the in-memory MAC bindings eventually get deleted if they
become stale.



In the present master/2.12 these GARPs will not cause this 100% cpu loop
issue because incremental processing will not recompute flows.


Another mitigating factor for master is something I'm currently working
on. I've got the beginnings of a patch series going where I am
separating pinctrl into a separate process from 

Re: [ovs-discuss] ovn-controller is taking 100% CPU all the time in one deployment

2019-08-30 Thread Daniel Alvarez Sanchez
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 10:01 PM Mark Michelson  wrote:
>
> On 8/29/19 2:39 PM, Numan Siddique wrote:
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > In one of the OVN deployments, we are seeing 100% CPU usage by
> > ovn-controllers all the time.
> >
> > After investigations we found the below
> >
> >   - ovn-controller is taking more than 20 seconds to complete full loop
> > (mainly in lflow_run() function)
> >
> >   - The physical switch is sending GARPs periodically every 10 seconds.
> >
> >   - There is ovn-bridge-mappings configured and these GARP packets
> > reaches br-int via the patch port.
> >
> >   - We have a flow in router pipeline which applies the action - put_arp
> > if it is arp packet.
> >
> >   - ovn-controller pinctrl thread receives these garps, stores the
> > learnt mac-ips in the 'put_mac_bindings' hmap and notifies the
> > ovn-controller main thread by incrementing the seq no.
> >
> >   - In the ovn-controller main thread, after lflow_run() finishes,
> > pinctrl_wait() is called. This function calls - poll_immediate_wake() as
> > 'put_mac_bindings' hmap is not empty.
> >
> > - This causes the ovn-controller poll_block() to not sleep at all and
> > this repeats all the time resulting in 100% cpu usage.
> >
> > The deployment has OVS/OVN 2.9.  We have back ported the pinctrl_thread
> > patch.
> >
> > Some time back I had reported an issue about lflow_run() taking lot of
> > time - https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-dev/2019-July/360414.html
> >
> > I think we need to improve the logical processing sooner or later.
>
> I agree that this is very important. I know that logical flow processing
> is the biggest bottleneck for ovn-controller, but 20 seconds is just
> ridiculous. In your scale testing, you found that lflow_run() was taking
> 10 seconds to complete.
I support this statement 100% (20 seconds is just ridiculous). To be
precise, in this deployment we see over 23 seconds for the main loop
to process and I've seen even 30 seconds some times. I've been talking
to Numan these days about this issue and I support profiling this
actual deployment so that we can figure out how incremental processing
would help.

>
> I'm curious if there are any factors in this particular deployment's
> configuration that might contribute to this. For instance, does this
> deployment have a glut of ACLs? Are they not using port groups?
They're not using port groups because it's 2.9 and it is not there.
However, I don't think port groups would make a big difference in
terms of ovn-controller computation. I might be wrong but Port Groups
help reduce the number of ACLs in the NB database while the # of
Logical Flows would still remain the same. We'll try to get the
contents of the NB database and figure out what's killing it.

>
> This particular deployment's configuration may give us a good scenario
> for our testing to improve lflow processing time.
Absolutely!
>
> >
> > But to fix this issue urgently, we are thinking of the below approach.
> >
> >   - pinctrl_thread will locally cache the mac_binding entries (just like
> > it caches the dns entries). (Please note pinctrl_thread can not access
> > the SB DB IDL).
>
> >
> > - Upon receiving any arp packet (via the put_arp action), pinctrl_thread
> > will check the local mac_binding cache and will only wake up the main
> > ovn-controller thread only if the mac_binding update is required.
> >
> > This approach will solve the issue since the MAC sent by the physical
> > switches will not change. So there is no need to wake up ovn-controller
> > main thread.
>
> I think this can work well. We have a lot of what's needed already in
> pinctrl at this point. We have the hash table of mac bindings already.
> Currently, we flush this table after we write the data to the southbound
> database. Instead, we would keep the bindings in memory. We would need
> to ensure that the in-memory MAC bindings eventually get deleted if they
> become stale.
>
> >
> > In the present master/2.12 these GARPs will not cause this 100% cpu loop
> > issue because incremental processing will not recompute flows.
>
> Another mitigating factor for master is something I'm currently working
> on. I've got the beginnings of a patch series going where I am
> separating pinctrl into a separate process from ovn-controller:
> https://github.com/putnopvut/ovn/tree/pinctrl_process
>
> It's in the early stages right now, so please don't judge :)
>
> Separating pinctrl to its own process means that it cannot directly
> cause ovn-controller to wake up like it currently might.
>
> >
> > Even though the above approach is not really required for master/2.12, I
> > think it is still Ok to have this as there is no harm.
> >
> > I would like to know your comments and any concerns if any.
>
> Hm, I don't really understand why we'd want to put this in master/2.12
> if the problem doesn't exist there. The main concern I have is with
> regards to cache lifetime. I don't want to introduce potential memory
> growth concerns 

Re: [ovs-discuss] ovn-controller is taking 100% CPU all the time in one deployment

2019-08-30 Thread Numan Siddique
On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 1:04 AM Han Zhou  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:16 PM Numan Siddique 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 12:37 AM Han Zhou  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:40 AM Numan Siddique 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello Everyone,
>>> >
>>> > In one of the OVN deployments, we are seeing 100% CPU usage by
>>> ovn-controllers all the time.
>>> >
>>> > After investigations we found the below
>>> >
>>> >  - ovn-controller is taking more than 20 seconds to complete full loop
>>> (mainly in lflow_run() function)
>>> >
>>> >  - The physical switch is sending GARPs periodically every 10 seconds.
>>> >
>>> >  - There is ovn-bridge-mappings configured and these GARP packets
>>> reaches br-int via the patch port.
>>> >
>>> >  - We have a flow in router pipeline which applies the action -
>>> put_arp
>>> > if it is arp packet.
>>> >
>>> >  - ovn-controller pinctrl thread receives these garps, stores the
>>> learnt mac-ips in the 'put_mac_bindings' hmap and notifies the
>>> ovn-controller main thread by incrementing the seq no.
>>> >
>>> >  - In the ovn-controller main thread, after lflow_run() finishes,
>>> pinctrl_wait() is called. This function calls - poll_immediate_wake() as
>>> 'put_mac_bindings' hmap is not empty.
>>> >
>>> > - This causes the ovn-controller poll_block() to not sleep at all and
>>> this repeats all the time resulting in 100% cpu usage.
>>> >
>>> > The deployment has OVS/OVN 2.9.  We have back ported the
>>> pinctrl_thread patch.
>>> >
>>> > Some time back I had reported an issue about lflow_run() taking lot of
>>> time -
>>> https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-dev/2019-July/360414.html
>>> >
>>> > I think we need to improve the logical processing sooner or later.
>>> >
>>> > But to fix this issue urgently, we are thinking of the below approach.
>>> >
>>> >  - pinctrl_thread will locally cache the mac_binding entries (just
>>> like it caches the dns entries). (Please note pinctrl_thread can not access
>>> the SB DB IDL).
>>> >
>>> > - Upon receiving any arp packet (via the put_arp action),
>>> pinctrl_thread will check the local mac_binding cache and will only wake up
>>> the main ovn-controller thread only if the mac_binding update is required.
>>> >
>>> > This approach will solve the issue since the MAC sent by the physical
>>> switches will not change. So there is no need to wake up ovn-controller
>>> main thread.
>>> >
>>> > In the present master/2.12 these GARPs will not cause this 100% cpu
>>> loop issue because incremental processing will not recompute flows.
>>> >
>>> > Even though the above approach is not really required for master/2.12,
>>> I think it is still Ok to have this as there is no harm.
>>> >
>>> > I would like to know your comments and any concerns if any.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> > Numan
>>> >
>>>
>>> Hi Numan,
>>>
>>> I think this approach should work. Just to make sure, to update the
>>> cache efficiently (to avoid another kind of recompute), it should use ovsdb
>>> change-tracking to update it incrementally.
>>>
>>> Regarding master/2.12, it is not harmful except that it will add some
>>> more code and increase memory footprint. For our current use cases, there
>>> can be easily 10,000s mac_bindings, but it may still be ok because each
>>> entry is very small. However, is there any benefit for doing this in
>>> master/2.12?
>>>
>>
>> I don't see much benefit. But I can't submit a patch to branch 2.9
>> without the fix getting merged in master first right ?
>> May be once it is merged in branch 2.9, we can consider to delete it ?
>>
>> I think it is just about how would you maintain a downstream branch.
> Since it is downstream, I don't think you need a change to be in upstream
> before fixing a problem. In this case it may be *no harm*, but what if the
> upstream is completely changed and incompatible for such a fix any more? It
> shouldn't prevent you from fixing your downstream. (Of course it is better
> to not have downstream at all, but sometimes it is useful to have it for a
> temporary period, and since you (and us, too) are already there ... :)
>

The dowstream 2.9 what we have is - OVS 2.9.0 + a bunch of patches (to fix
issues) which are already merged upstream (preferably upstream branch or at
least upstream master).  Any downstream only patch is frowned upon. When we
updrade to 2.10 or higher versions there is  a risk of functional changes
if the patch is not upstream.

If we have apply the approach I described above to downstream 2.9 then
there is definitely some functional change. When such GARPs are received,
in the case of our downstream 2.9 we will not wake up ovn-controller main
thread
but with 2.12/master, we wake up the ovn-controller main thread.

I still see no harm in having this in upstream master. May be instead of
having a complete clone of mac_bindings, we can have a subset of
mac_bindings cached only if those mac_bindings are learnt by an
ovn-controller.

I will explore more.

Thanks
Numan

Re: [ovs-discuss] ovn-controller is taking 100% CPU all the time in one deployment

2019-08-29 Thread Mark Michelson

On 8/29/19 2:39 PM, Numan Siddique wrote:

Hello Everyone,

In one of the OVN deployments, we are seeing 100% CPU usage by 
ovn-controllers all the time.


After investigations we found the below

  - ovn-controller is taking more than 20 seconds to complete full loop 
(mainly in lflow_run() function)


  - The physical switch is sending GARPs periodically every 10 seconds.

  - There is ovn-bridge-mappings configured and these GARP packets 
reaches br-int via the patch port.


  - We have a flow in router pipeline which applies the action - put_arp
if it is arp packet.

  - ovn-controller pinctrl thread receives these garps, stores the 
learnt mac-ips in the 'put_mac_bindings' hmap and notifies the 
ovn-controller main thread by incrementing the seq no.


  - In the ovn-controller main thread, after lflow_run() finishes, 
pinctrl_wait() is called. This function calls - poll_immediate_wake() as 
'put_mac_bindings' hmap is not empty.


- This causes the ovn-controller poll_block() to not sleep at all and 
this repeats all the time resulting in 100% cpu usage.


The deployment has OVS/OVN 2.9.  We have back ported the pinctrl_thread 
patch.


Some time back I had reported an issue about lflow_run() taking lot of 
time - https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-dev/2019-July/360414.html


I think we need to improve the logical processing sooner or later.


I agree that this is very important. I know that logical flow processing 
is the biggest bottleneck for ovn-controller, but 20 seconds is just 
ridiculous. In your scale testing, you found that lflow_run() was taking 
10 seconds to complete.


I'm curious if there are any factors in this particular deployment's 
configuration that might contribute to this. For instance, does this 
deployment have a glut of ACLs? Are they not using port groups?


This particular deployment's configuration may give us a good scenario 
for our testing to improve lflow processing time.




But to fix this issue urgently, we are thinking of the below approach.

  - pinctrl_thread will locally cache the mac_binding entries (just like 
it caches the dns entries). (Please note pinctrl_thread can not access 
the SB DB IDL).




- Upon receiving any arp packet (via the put_arp action), pinctrl_thread 
will check the local mac_binding cache and will only wake up the main 
ovn-controller thread only if the mac_binding update is required.


This approach will solve the issue since the MAC sent by the physical 
switches will not change. So there is no need to wake up ovn-controller 
main thread.


I think this can work well. We have a lot of what's needed already in 
pinctrl at this point. We have the hash table of mac bindings already. 
Currently, we flush this table after we write the data to the southbound 
database. Instead, we would keep the bindings in memory. We would need 
to ensure that the in-memory MAC bindings eventually get deleted if they 
become stale.




In the present master/2.12 these GARPs will not cause this 100% cpu loop 
issue because incremental processing will not recompute flows.


Another mitigating factor for master is something I'm currently working 
on. I've got the beginnings of a patch series going where I am 
separating pinctrl into a separate process from ovn-controller: 
https://github.com/putnopvut/ovn/tree/pinctrl_process


It's in the early stages right now, so please don't judge :)

Separating pinctrl to its own process means that it cannot directly 
cause ovn-controller to wake up like it currently might.




Even though the above approach is not really required for master/2.12, I 
think it is still Ok to have this as there is no harm.


I would like to know your comments and any concerns if any.


Hm, I don't really understand why we'd want to put this in master/2.12 
if the problem doesn't exist there. The main concern I have is with 
regards to cache lifetime. I don't want to introduce potential memory 
growth concerns into a branch if it's not necessary.


Is there a way for us to get this included in 2.9-2.11 without having to 
put it in master or 2.12? It's hard to classify this as a bug fix, 
really, but it does prevent unwanted behavior in real-world setups. 
Could we get an opinion from committers on this?




Thanks
Numan


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Re: [ovs-discuss] ovn-controller is taking 100% CPU all the time in one deployment

2019-08-29 Thread Han Zhou
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:16 PM Numan Siddique  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 12:37 AM Han Zhou  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:40 AM Numan Siddique 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello Everyone,
>> >
>> > In one of the OVN deployments, we are seeing 100% CPU usage by
>> ovn-controllers all the time.
>> >
>> > After investigations we found the below
>> >
>> >  - ovn-controller is taking more than 20 seconds to complete full loop
>> (mainly in lflow_run() function)
>> >
>> >  - The physical switch is sending GARPs periodically every 10 seconds.
>> >
>> >  - There is ovn-bridge-mappings configured and these GARP packets
>> reaches br-int via the patch port.
>> >
>> >  - We have a flow in router pipeline which applies the action - put_arp
>> > if it is arp packet.
>> >
>> >  - ovn-controller pinctrl thread receives these garps, stores the
>> learnt mac-ips in the 'put_mac_bindings' hmap and notifies the
>> ovn-controller main thread by incrementing the seq no.
>> >
>> >  - In the ovn-controller main thread, after lflow_run() finishes,
>> pinctrl_wait() is called. This function calls - poll_immediate_wake() as
>> 'put_mac_bindings' hmap is not empty.
>> >
>> > - This causes the ovn-controller poll_block() to not sleep at all and
>> this repeats all the time resulting in 100% cpu usage.
>> >
>> > The deployment has OVS/OVN 2.9.  We have back ported the pinctrl_thread
>> patch.
>> >
>> > Some time back I had reported an issue about lflow_run() taking lot of
>> time -
>> https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-dev/2019-July/360414.html
>> >
>> > I think we need to improve the logical processing sooner or later.
>> >
>> > But to fix this issue urgently, we are thinking of the below approach.
>> >
>> >  - pinctrl_thread will locally cache the mac_binding entries (just like
>> it caches the dns entries). (Please note pinctrl_thread can not access the
>> SB DB IDL).
>> >
>> > - Upon receiving any arp packet (via the put_arp action),
>> pinctrl_thread will check the local mac_binding cache and will only wake up
>> the main ovn-controller thread only if the mac_binding update is required.
>> >
>> > This approach will solve the issue since the MAC sent by the physical
>> switches will not change. So there is no need to wake up ovn-controller
>> main thread.
>> >
>> > In the present master/2.12 these GARPs will not cause this 100% cpu
>> loop issue because incremental processing will not recompute flows.
>> >
>> > Even though the above approach is not really required for master/2.12,
>> I think it is still Ok to have this as there is no harm.
>> >
>> > I would like to know your comments and any concerns if any.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Numan
>> >
>>
>> Hi Numan,
>>
>> I think this approach should work. Just to make sure, to update the cache
>> efficiently (to avoid another kind of recompute), it should use ovsdb
>> change-tracking to update it incrementally.
>>
>> Regarding master/2.12, it is not harmful except that it will add some
>> more code and increase memory footprint. For our current use cases, there
>> can be easily 10,000s mac_bindings, but it may still be ok because each
>> entry is very small. However, is there any benefit for doing this in
>> master/2.12?
>>
>
> I don't see much benefit. But I can't submit a patch to branch 2.9 without
> the fix getting merged in master first right ?
> May be once it is merged in branch 2.9, we can consider to delete it ?
>
> I think it is just about how would you maintain a downstream branch. Since
it is downstream, I don't think you need a change to be in upstream before
fixing a problem. In this case it may be *no harm*, but what if the
upstream is completely changed and incompatible for such a fix any more? It
shouldn't prevent you from fixing your downstream. (Of course it is better
to not have downstream at all, but sometimes it is useful to have it for a
temporary period, and since you (and us, too) are already there ... :)
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Re: [ovs-discuss] ovn-controller is taking 100% CPU all the time in one deployment

2019-08-29 Thread Numan Siddique
On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 12:37 AM Han Zhou  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:40 AM Numan Siddique 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > In one of the OVN deployments, we are seeing 100% CPU usage by
> ovn-controllers all the time.
> >
> > After investigations we found the below
> >
> >  - ovn-controller is taking more than 20 seconds to complete full loop
> (mainly in lflow_run() function)
> >
> >  - The physical switch is sending GARPs periodically every 10 seconds.
> >
> >  - There is ovn-bridge-mappings configured and these GARP packets
> reaches br-int via the patch port.
> >
> >  - We have a flow in router pipeline which applies the action - put_arp
> > if it is arp packet.
> >
> >  - ovn-controller pinctrl thread receives these garps, stores the learnt
> mac-ips in the 'put_mac_bindings' hmap and notifies the ovn-controller main
> thread by incrementing the seq no.
> >
> >  - In the ovn-controller main thread, after lflow_run() finishes,
> pinctrl_wait() is called. This function calls - poll_immediate_wake() as
> 'put_mac_bindings' hmap is not empty.
> >
> > - This causes the ovn-controller poll_block() to not sleep at all and
> this repeats all the time resulting in 100% cpu usage.
> >
> > The deployment has OVS/OVN 2.9.  We have back ported the pinctrl_thread
> patch.
> >
> > Some time back I had reported an issue about lflow_run() taking lot of
> time -
> https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-dev/2019-July/360414.html
> >
> > I think we need to improve the logical processing sooner or later.
> >
> > But to fix this issue urgently, we are thinking of the below approach.
> >
> >  - pinctrl_thread will locally cache the mac_binding entries (just like
> it caches the dns entries). (Please note pinctrl_thread can not access the
> SB DB IDL).
> >
> > - Upon receiving any arp packet (via the put_arp action), pinctrl_thread
> will check the local mac_binding cache and will only wake up the main
> ovn-controller thread only if the mac_binding update is required.
> >
> > This approach will solve the issue since the MAC sent by the physical
> switches will not change. So there is no need to wake up ovn-controller
> main thread.
> >
> > In the present master/2.12 these GARPs will not cause this 100% cpu loop
> issue because incremental processing will not recompute flows.
> >
> > Even though the above approach is not really required for master/2.12, I
> think it is still Ok to have this as there is no harm.
> >
> > I would like to know your comments and any concerns if any.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Numan
> >
>
> Hi Numan,
>
> I think this approach should work. Just to make sure, to update the cache
> efficiently (to avoid another kind of recompute), it should use ovsdb
> change-tracking to update it incrementally.
>
> Regarding master/2.12, it is not harmful except that it will add some more
> code and increase memory footprint. For our current use cases, there can be
> easily 10,000s mac_bindings, but it may still be ok because each entry is
> very small. However, is there any benefit for doing this in master/2.12?
>

I don't see much benefit. But I can't submit a patch to branch 2.9 without
the fix getting merged in master first right ?
May be once it is merged in branch 2.9, we can consider to delete it ?

Thanks
Numan


>
> Thanks,
> Han
>
>
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Re: [ovs-discuss] ovn-controller is taking 100% CPU all the time in one deployment

2019-08-29 Thread Han Zhou
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:40 AM Numan Siddique  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> In one of the OVN deployments, we are seeing 100% CPU usage by
ovn-controllers all the time.
>
> After investigations we found the below
>
>  - ovn-controller is taking more than 20 seconds to complete full loop
(mainly in lflow_run() function)
>
>  - The physical switch is sending GARPs periodically every 10 seconds.
>
>  - There is ovn-bridge-mappings configured and these GARP packets reaches
br-int via the patch port.
>
>  - We have a flow in router pipeline which applies the action - put_arp
> if it is arp packet.
>
>  - ovn-controller pinctrl thread receives these garps, stores the learnt
mac-ips in the 'put_mac_bindings' hmap and notifies the ovn-controller main
thread by incrementing the seq no.
>
>  - In the ovn-controller main thread, after lflow_run() finishes,
pinctrl_wait() is called. This function calls - poll_immediate_wake() as
'put_mac_bindings' hmap is not empty.
>
> - This causes the ovn-controller poll_block() to not sleep at all and
this repeats all the time resulting in 100% cpu usage.
>
> The deployment has OVS/OVN 2.9.  We have back ported the pinctrl_thread
patch.
>
> Some time back I had reported an issue about lflow_run() taking lot of
time - https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-dev/2019-July/360414.html
>
> I think we need to improve the logical processing sooner or later.
>
> But to fix this issue urgently, we are thinking of the below approach.
>
>  - pinctrl_thread will locally cache the mac_binding entries (just like
it caches the dns entries). (Please note pinctrl_thread can not access the
SB DB IDL).
>
> - Upon receiving any arp packet (via the put_arp action), pinctrl_thread
will check the local mac_binding cache and will only wake up the main
ovn-controller thread only if the mac_binding update is required.
>
> This approach will solve the issue since the MAC sent by the physical
switches will not change. So there is no need to wake up ovn-controller
main thread.
>
> In the present master/2.12 these GARPs will not cause this 100% cpu loop
issue because incremental processing will not recompute flows.
>
> Even though the above approach is not really required for master/2.12, I
think it is still Ok to have this as there is no harm.
>
> I would like to know your comments and any concerns if any.
>
> Thanks
> Numan
>

Hi Numan,

I think this approach should work. Just to make sure, to update the cache
efficiently (to avoid another kind of recompute), it should use ovsdb
change-tracking to update it incrementally.

Regarding master/2.12, it is not harmful except that it will add some more
code and increase memory footprint. For our current use cases, there can be
easily 10,000s mac_bindings, but it may still be ok because each entry is
very small. However, is there any benefit for doing this in master/2.12?

Thanks,
Han
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[ovs-discuss] ovn-controller is taking 100% CPU all the time in one deployment

2019-08-29 Thread Numan Siddique
Hello Everyone,

In one of the OVN deployments, we are seeing 100% CPU usage by
ovn-controllers all the time.

After investigations we found the below

 - ovn-controller is taking more than 20 seconds to complete full loop
(mainly in lflow_run() function)

 - The physical switch is sending GARPs periodically every 10 seconds.

 - There is ovn-bridge-mappings configured and these GARP packets reaches
br-int via the patch port.

 - We have a flow in router pipeline which applies the action - put_arp
if it is arp packet.

 - ovn-controller pinctrl thread receives these garps, stores the learnt
mac-ips in the 'put_mac_bindings' hmap and notifies the ovn-controller main
thread by incrementing the seq no.

 - In the ovn-controller main thread, after lflow_run() finishes,
pinctrl_wait() is called. This function calls - poll_immediate_wake() as
'put_mac_bindings' hmap is not empty.

- This causes the ovn-controller poll_block() to not sleep at all and this
repeats all the time resulting in 100% cpu usage.

The deployment has OVS/OVN 2.9.  We have back ported the pinctrl_thread
patch.

Some time back I had reported an issue about lflow_run() taking lot of time
- https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-dev/2019-July/360414.html

I think we need to improve the logical processing sooner or later.

But to fix this issue urgently, we are thinking of the below approach.

 - pinctrl_thread will locally cache the mac_binding entries (just like it
caches the dns entries). (Please note pinctrl_thread can not access the SB
DB IDL).

- Upon receiving any arp packet (via the put_arp action), pinctrl_thread
will check the local mac_binding cache and will only wake up the main
ovn-controller thread only if the mac_binding update is required.

This approach will solve the issue since the MAC sent by the physical
switches will not change. So there is no need to wake up ovn-controller
main thread.

In the present master/2.12 these GARPs will not cause this 100% cpu loop
issue because incremental processing will not recompute flows.

Even though the above approach is not really required for master/2.12, I
think it is still Ok to have this as there is no harm.

I would like to know your comments and any concerns if any.

Thanks
Numan
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