Re: [oXygen-user] Conkeyrefs not rendered on map-level

2023-02-02 Thread Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu) 

Hi Sasha,


Thanks for investigating this, I can reproduce the problem and added a 
DITA OT issue with samples for it:


https://github.com/dita-ot/dita-ot/issues/4117


Regards,

Radu

Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor


On 2/2/23 10:28, Sascha Nothofer wrote:


Hi Radu,


thanks for your analysis of my issue!
Your questions and thoughts helped me to track down the problem.

If you try to publish a map containing a title (or data element) with 
a conkeyref like this

...
and if the reused element contains another element with an id 
attribute like this

..
then the DITA OT 3.7.3 (Oxygen 25.0 build in) is not able to resolve 
the reference on map level.
For example the pdf front page title does not contain the referenced 
content.


If you use conref instead, everything is fine.
Conkeyrefs from topic to topic are also resolved as expected.

It looks like a OT bug.


Thx!
Sascha


> Currently I want to switch from Oxygen 23 to 25.0 including an
> extracted build-in DITA-OT3.x with custom pdf2 plugin but In the
> updated?environment we have the following effect:
>
>
> In almost all DITAVAL contexts (we have a lot) the variable texts are
> not rendered into the DITA Map anymore without error messages.
>
This looks like an editing problem, in such cases we are interested in
knowing what those particular error messages state. Ideally we would
also have a small sample DITA project to reproduce the problem on our
side. You can do this with a separate off list email.


>
> Just a few DITAVAL contexts produce output as before.
>
By output do you mean publishing?

yes, html or pdf. We have no problems in Oxygen/Author. All references 
are displayed fine.




>
> In published content topics/chapters everything is fine -> conkeyrefs
> are resolved.
>
So the publishing is fine? Only the DITA Maps Manager has problems
displaying the keyrefs?
No problem in Maps Manager. The problem is only in preprocessing 
output and following.

>
> Also Oxygen Author WYSIWYG resolves all conkeyrefs as expected in
> topics and in the map.
>
Ok, so the main editor area seems to work.
>
>
> In the pre-processing output (?_MERGED.xml) the specific map elements
> do not contain the variable text but conref attributes with wrong
> transformed links:
> The conrefs contain ?path/topic.dita#ElementID? instead of
> ?path/ditatopic.dita#topicID/ElementID?
>
> In correct output contexts there are no conref attrubtes rendered into
> output, just the elements with resolved text.
>
So there is also a publishing problem as well? Oxygen 25.0 comes bundled
with DITA OT 3.7 from what I remember, maybe there is some
incompatibility between your custom PDF plugin and DITA OT 3.7.

Do you have also a DITA DTD specialization plugin? If so did you install
it in the DITA OT bundled with Oxygen 25.0?

yes

> I guess, there could be many different reasons for this. I tried a lot
> and couldn?t reproduced the problem in a simple test project. I also
> did?nt manage to simplify our project to a working state.
>
I somehow suspect you may have some DITA specialization for certain
topics. I'm not sure. If you can reproduce about the same problem when
editing and when publishing, the problem is usually somewhere in the
DITA Open Toolkit publishing engine, some plugin which may not be 
installed.



Regards,

Radu

Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor






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Re: [oXygen-user] Conkeyrefs not rendered on map-level

2023-02-02 Thread Sascha Nothofer 
Hi Radu,

thanks for your analysis of my issue!
Your questions and thoughts helped me to track down the problem.

If you try to publish a map containing a title (or data element) with a 
conkeyref like this
...
and if the reused element contains another element with an id attribute like 
this
..
then the DITA OT 3.7.3 (Oxygen 25.0 build in) is not able to resolve the 
reference on map level.
For example the pdf front page title does not contain the referenced content.

If you use conref instead, everything is fine.
Conkeyrefs from topic to topic are also resolved as expected.

It looks like a OT bug.

Thx!
Sascha



> Currently I want to switch from Oxygen 23 to 25.0 including an
> extracted build-in DITA-OT3.x with custom pdf2 plugin but In the
> updated?environment we have the following effect:
>
>
> In almost all DITAVAL contexts (we have a lot) the variable texts are
> not rendered into the DITA Map anymore without error messages.
>
This looks like an editing problem, in such cases we are interested in
knowing what those particular error messages state. Ideally we would
also have a small sample DITA project to reproduce the problem on our
side. You can do this with a separate off list email.


>
> Just a few DITAVAL contexts produce output as before.
>
By output do you mean publishing?

yes, html or pdf. We have no problems in Oxygen/Author. All references are 
displayed fine.



>
> In published content topics/chapters everything is fine -> conkeyrefs
> are resolved.
>
So the publishing is fine? Only the DITA Maps Manager has problems
displaying the keyrefs?
No problem in Maps Manager. The problem is only in preprocessing output and 
following.
>
> Also Oxygen Author WYSIWYG resolves all conkeyrefs as expected in
> topics and in the map.
>
Ok, so the main editor area seems to work.
>
>
> In the pre-processing output (?_MERGED.xml) the specific map elements
> do not contain the variable text but conref attributes with wrong
> transformed links:
> The conrefs contain ?path/topic.dita#ElementID? instead of
> ?path/ditatopic.dita#topicID/ElementID?
>
> In correct output contexts there are no conref attrubtes rendered into
> output, just the elements with resolved text.
>
So there is also a publishing problem as well? Oxygen 25.0 comes bundled
with DITA OT 3.7 from what I remember, maybe there is some
incompatibility between your custom PDF plugin and DITA OT 3.7.

Do you have also a DITA DTD specialization plugin? If so did you install
it in the DITA OT bundled with Oxygen 25.0?

yes

> I guess, there could be many different reasons for this. I tried a lot
> and couldn?t reproduced the problem in a simple test project. I also
> did?nt manage to simplify our project to a working state.
>
I somehow suspect you may have some DITA specialization for certain
topics. I'm not sure. If you can reproduce about the same problem when
editing and when publishing, the problem is usually somewhere in the
DITA Open Toolkit publishing engine, some plugin which may not be installed.


Regards,

Radu

Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor





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