Re: [oXygen-user] Do I need a namespace declaration in dita root elements?

[Kristen James Eberlein]

You can remove it.

Best,
Kris

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Subject: [oXygen-user] Do I need a namespace declaration in dita root elements?


Hi all,



I am cleaning up DITA files created with FrameMaker. FrameMaker has added a lot 
of unnecessary attributes, for example.



Among others, FM has added an xmlns:ditaarch attribute to every top-level dita 
element such as concept, task or reference. Example:



http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/";<http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/>>



Can I safely remove this attribute or is it required?



Regards,

Frank
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Re: [oXygen-user] Do I need a namespace declaration in dita root elements?

[Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu)]

Hi Frank,


One way to check if an attribute is necessary is to see if it's already 
defined with that certain value in the associated DTDs.


If you open the DITA concept for example in Oxygen in the Text mode and 
place the caret inside the  tag, then remove the attribute, 
look in the "Attributes" view, if that specific attribute still appears 
there with the value grayed out, this means that it's already defined 
with that value in the associated DTDs and it's not necessary to define 
it in the XML instance.



In your case with "xmlns:ditaarch" which is a prefix namespace mapping 
declaration it is useless if:



1) It's already declared in the DTDs (which it is).

2) It's not used anywhere in the XML document (and it isn't, there is no 
"ditaarch:abc='def'" attribute in the XML document).



So in your case the prefix namespace declaration is useless in both cases.


Regards,

Radu

Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor


On 3/22/23 16:38, Frank Dissinger wrote:


Hi all,


I am cleaning up DITA files created with FrameMaker. FrameMaker has 
added a lot of unnecessary attributes, for example.



Among others, FM has added an *xmlns:ditaarch* attribute to every 
top-level dita element such as concept, task or reference. Example:



*xmlns:ditaarch="http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/"*>



Can I safely remove this attribute or is it required?


Regards,

Frank

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*Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com 



*Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany

*Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99

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Re: [oXygen-user] Do I need a namespace declaration in dita root elements?

[Wendell Piez]

Frank,

This is more than you asked for, but here:
https://github.com/wendellpiez/XMLNamespaceFixup

No you don't need that namespace. Getting rid of it isn't hard if you know
what it is, exactly. (The topic of what is a namespace I think I'll leave
aside, however.)

And XSLT instructions such as xsl:copy and xsl:copy-of frequently permit
copy-namespaces="no" to avoid unwanted namespace proliferation.

Good luck, Wendell

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:38 AM Frank Dissinger <
frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> I am cleaning up DITA files created with FrameMaker. FrameMaker has added
> a lot of unnecessary attributes, for example.
>
>
> Among others, FM has added an *xmlns:ditaarch* attribute to every
> top-level dita element such as concept, task or reference. Example:
>
>
>  *xmlns:ditaarch="http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/";
> *>
>
>
> Can I safely remove this attribute or is it required?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Frank
> --
>
> *Frank Dissinger*
>
> Documentation Manager
>
> 
>
> *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH*
>
> *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com
>
> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany
>
> *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99
>
> *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495
>
> *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen
>
>
> [image: https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png]
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[oXygen-user] Do I need a namespace declaration in dita root elements?

[Frank Dissinger]

Hi all,


I am cleaning up DITA files created with FrameMaker. FrameMaker has 
added a lot of unnecessary attributes, for example.



Among others, FM has added an *xmlns:ditaarch* attribute to every 
top-level dita element such as concept, task or reference. Example:



*xmlns:ditaarch="http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/"*>



Can I safely remove this attribute or is it required?


Regards,

Frank

--

*Frank Dissinger*

Documentation Manager



*CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH*

*Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com 



*Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany

*Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99

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