Debugger canvas for Visual Studio 2010

2013-01-14 Thread Jano Petras
Hi folks,


Anyone using Debugger canvas for VS? And if so, can you please share some
observations / experiences / advices ?


Code bubbles original concept:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsPX0nElJ0k



Debugger canvas for Visual Studio:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/devlabs/debuggercanvas.aspx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p9XUwIlhJg


Thanks,
jano


Debugging Azure

2013-01-14 Thread Greg Keogh
Folks, I've been running experiments for days now to get the hang of
deploying and running WCF services and SQL databases in Azure. I have the
database up and running fine.

The service has a simple sanity check method that just returns a random
number, and some other methods that return EF5 entities out of the Azure
SQL database.

All methods work perfectly in the Azure simulator, but when I deploy to
Azure staging or production the simple method works but the database
methods fail with a generic fault message with no diagnostic information.

What tricks or techniques are available to debug what's happening on the
Azure service side? Is anyone here using Azure for serious stuff? If so,
your general advice would be welcome to help me get up-to-speed and save
suffering.

Thanks
Greg

P.S. I'm quite impressed with Azure generally and the nice management
interface, but it sure is slow to deploy, and sometimes the first call to
the service fails with no endpoint but a minute later it works, like it's
waking up or something.


Re: Debugging Azure

2013-01-14 Thread Craig van Nieuwkerk
I am hosting my SAAS app www.youreontime.com on Azure for the last couple
of years, so someone is using it!

I agree deployment is slow, it takes be 45-60 minutes to deploy.

With the database error have you tried connecting directly to the SqlAzure
database from your local machine to run the tests or are you connecting to
a local database? There are some differences between SQLServer and SqlAzure
that could catch you.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 Folks, I've been running experiments for days now to get the hang of
 deploying and running WCF services and SQL databases in Azure. I have the
 database up and running fine.

 The service has a simple sanity check method that just returns a random
 number, and some other methods that return EF5 entities out of the Azure
 SQL database.

 All methods work perfectly in the Azure simulator, but when I deploy to
 Azure staging or production the simple method works but the database
 methods fail with a generic fault message with no diagnostic information.

 What tricks or techniques are available to debug what's happening on the
 Azure service side? Is anyone here using Azure for serious stuff? If so,
 your general advice would be welcome to help me get up-to-speed and save
 suffering.

 Thanks
 Greg

 P.S. I'm quite impressed with Azure generally and the nice management
 interface, but it sure is slow to deploy, and sometimes the first call to
 the service fails with no endpoint but a minute later it works, like it's
 waking up or something.



Re: Debugging Azure

2013-01-14 Thread Greg Keogh
Hi Craig,

All my tests connect to the SQL Azure DB. I'm using EF5 in a vanilla way,
so that should keep me above sight of the differences in the real and Azure
DBs.

I am hitting some environmental difference in the production Azure
environment, but WCF is hiding the error and reporting the generic failure
exception, which it does by default. I remember years ago spending hours
trying to get details errors back from WCF, but it never worked properly. I
found it easier to run the server in the debugger and break on the problem,
but I can't do that with the service in Azure.

When I get home tonight I'll just keep web searching for advice on how to
tackle this problem. Maybe there is Azure-side logging as well.

Greg

P.S. It will interesting to see how the Azure DB performs when I load it up
with 150,000 rows in 20 tables. It's currently only got a dozen test rows.


vs 2010 and 2012

2013-01-14 Thread ifumust
Can you install vs 2012 in parallel with vs 2010?  

 

 



Re: vs 2010 and 2012

2013-01-14 Thread Craig van Nieuwkerk
Yes.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 3:28 PM, ifum...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can you install vs 2012 in parallel with vs 2010?  

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Re: vs 2010 and 2012

2013-01-14 Thread Michael Minutillo
I've been running both in parallel for about 6 months and haven't run into
any issues with either.

Michael M. Minutillo
Indiscriminate Information Sponge
http://codermike.com


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Craig van Nieuwkerk crai...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes.


 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 3:28 PM, ifum...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can you install vs 2012 in parallel with vs 2010?  

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RE: vs 2010 and 2012

2013-01-14 Thread Tony Wright
Yes, and it's even designed so that when you upgrade projects to 2012, hey
can (mostly) still be reopened in VS2010.

 

Only a few projects fail this - LINQ to SQL, and some reporting.

 

T.

 

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To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: vs 2010 and 2012

 

Can you install vs 2012 in parallel with vs 2010?  

 

 



RE: vs 2010 and 2012

2013-01-14 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
+1

 

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On Behalf Of Michael Minutillo
Sent: Tuesday, 15 January 2013 3:34 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: vs 2010 and 2012

 

I've been running both in parallel for about 6 months and haven't run into
any issues with either.




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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Craig van Nieuwkerk crai...@gmail.com
mailto:crai...@gmail.com  wrote:

Yes.

 

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 3:28 PM, ifum...@gmail.com
mailto:ifum...@gmail.com  wrote:

Can you install vs 2012 in parallel with vs 2010?  

 

 

 

 



RE: vs 2010 and 2012

2013-01-14 Thread David Kean
Most definitely yes. Be aware, however, that VS 2012 will install 4.5 over the 
top of 4.0, so make sure that you test your applications on a 4.0 only box 
before deploying.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Tony Wright
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 8:32 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: vs 2010 and 2012

Yes, and it's even designed so that when you upgrade projects to 2012, hey can 
(mostly) still be reopened in VS2010.

Only a few projects fail this - LINQ to SQL, and some reporting.

T.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of 
ifum...@gmail.commailto:ifum...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, 15 January 2013 3:28 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: vs 2010 and 2012

Can you install vs 2012 in parallel with vs 2010?




RE: vs 2010 and 2012

2013-01-14 Thread ifumust
Thanks guys..yes it is!

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of David Kean
Sent: Tuesday, 15 January 2013 4:35 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: vs 2010 and 2012

 

Most definitely yes. Be aware, however, that VS 2012 will install 4.5 over
the top of 4.0, so make sure that you test your applications on a 4.0 only
box before deploying.

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Tony Wright
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 8:32 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: vs 2010 and 2012

 

Yes, and it's even designed so that when you upgrade projects to 2012, hey
can (mostly) still be reopened in VS2010.

 

Only a few projects fail this - LINQ to SQL, and some reporting.

 

T.

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of ifum...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, 15 January 2013 3:28 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: vs 2010 and 2012

 

Can you install vs 2012 in parallel with vs 2010?